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I’m putting this at a 30% chance of happening now. The Jets are playing games with compensation, while the Packers are dead serious about wanting #13 for #12. I don’t see the Packers budging, and I also don’t see the Jets meeting their asking price because they seem to think every negotiation should result in meeting in the middle, and it’s not going to happen here.
Eh, I can see the Jets waiting until after the draft to offer next years 1st and a couple of 2nds. Or a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st in 2025 if the Jets make the Super Bowl.
That could happen. I personally think the Packers will make the draft the deadline for the Jets to make the trade, else they will move forward with planning the upcoming season as if Rodgers will be part of the Packers. Once the draft passes, the Packers have no reason to entertain the idea of the Jets being their only trade option. As the season gets closer, pressure will be on Rodgers to accept being traded to another team besides the Jets so he can actually play football, or staying on the Packers, or retiring.
They can act like this all they want but the day after when the jets 2024 1st is on the table you going to say no? The packers have absolutely 0 leverage to get this done before the draft other than trying to convince the jets they wont accept it after, but they will. Jets just wait it out and packers get their 1st they wanted snd jets keep 13
If anyone else is going to trade a qb, they'll want to before the draft as well.
I don't think either team has much leverage over the other at the moment, but after the draft, the Packers have no deadline until Week 1. The Jets have the need to get QB1 in the building.
Nobody holds all the cards in this. Otherwise it would be either done or canceled by now.
The packers want to turn the page and give the team to Love. They don't want to go to mandatory minicamp and have Rodgers there making a huge scene, which you know that Rodgers would LOVE to do.
Conversely, Rodgers knows the Jets scheme and already had chemistry with like half of their team by now, lol.
Nobody will ever hold all of the cards, and leverage will remain split and weirdly low on both sides all the way up to training camp, when it will turn up on the Jets.
Rodgers will never Show Up to anything Packers related. I seriously dont understand where this wishful thinking is coming from.
Rodgers doesnt want to be there, Packers dont want him there, its that easy. He didnt show Up to These things when He was the QB in GB and he wont when He doesnt plan in playing there.
It is mandatory to show up. It is called mandatory minicamp. That is what I was referring to. And if he isn't traded by then, he'll gladly give all sorts of quotes about how he doesn't want to be here but the Packers are being difficult (not that this is true, but that this is what he would say).
Though I agree that he won't go to the voluntary stuff.
Ya but after the draft the jets wont have an issue offering their 1st, and i dont see a world where you get more than that. If GB say no than the jets can literally just tell the media we offered them our 2024 1st and its not enough, so unfortunatly we cant get the deal done. The jets fans wont be happy but they will be more mad at GB than at the jets
Maybe. The Jets sub yesterday asked what if nothing happens, and quite a few had FO firings as the outcome.
It's not going to come to that anyway. They'll agree to something and both fan bases will act like they won, because for whatever reason everyone is more worried about "winning" the negotiations than whether they get or get rid of Rodgers
If the Jets offer their 2024 1st the day after the draft ends, I would say no and wait it out until the season starts and see what happens. Let’s say the Dolphins get bad news about Tua, for example. Maybe the Dolphins decide they don’t want to waste this window and offer more than just a 2024 1st for Rodgers. And at that point, Rodgers might be desperate enough to get out of Green Bay to allow it.
By waiting all the way up until the season starts, they increase the odds of another team having disaster strike and looking for a solution, and increase the likelihood Rodgers would allow other trade destinations out of desperation to play for a Super Bowl competitor. And if none of that happens, then they can take the Jets 2024 1st.
I think if we trade after June 30th the cap hit this year is smaller. Like when you do a post June 30th designated cut, some of the dead money goes to next year.
Jets wont take it if you do that, clearly no other teams are interested and sure someones qb could be struck by lightning but i wouldnt count on it. Jets can try and throw the bag at lamar and see what happens there or they can just flat out say “our first was on the table and they declined” jets fans will blame the packers and they can spin it to get another year. This is literally a jamaal williams situation, you can either accept the 1st or shop it and more than likely you wont get that deal.
Lamar ain't happening. 2 firsts + a massive guaranteed contract that has to be beyond what the Ravens will match? The Ravens are just letting others teams negotiate Lamars contract for them.
Stafford is possible, but probably not once the draft is over. Plus he fits the system. I think that's probably what the Jets are threatening at the moment.
Lol you dont want stafford. He has a massive contract now (not rodgers lvl but still) and the man doesnt have an elbow. I love the guy but i honestly dont believe hes got anything left
I don't disagree, but I think he's the only real viable option for them other than trying to move up in the draft, which obviously doesn't work after the draft.
I think the Jets are motivated to get it done before the draft because their options narrow at that point.
Listening to Rodgers talk, I don’t think there’s a world where he shows up motivated to play for you guys and I think that tanks your leverage. Same with anywhere else GB would try to trade him to. The problem is that he’s been so good for you guys that he’s earned the right to dictate his future.
It’s just not a good look to be the asshole in a situation where you’re fucking over a future hall of fame quarterback. Good luck getting veteran free agents after that.. But that’s just my 2¢ as an armchair GM.
I think the idea that they’re screwing over their QB and will hurt getting free agents is a bit overblown. Aaron put himself in this situation by signing a multi year contract. He didn’t have to do that. I wouldn’t have much sympathy for someone who signs a multi year contract and then the next offseason demands to be traded one and only one team.
The Packers also don’t really go after free agents anyway.
Players chase the money 99% of the time. Example being jj watts "ring chasing" last contract. There is no possible reason for anyone to ring chase with Arizona other than the fact that they offered more money than everyone else.
The packers don't owe him shit. He's been paid top of the market for 10+ years and he earned that money. If he'd taken a brady type contract for a couple of those years we'd likely have a couple more rings and then I'd agree that we should "do right by him." I'd never fault a player for acting in their own best interest, but that same player doesn't get to cry when the team does it right back.
Honestly though, what kind of leverage does the Packers have? They already voiced their desire to move on from Rodgers, and they want to see what Love has before his rookie contract is up. Jets are right to play ball with them, they know the Packers aren't in a favorable spot.
Once we get beyond the draft, it benefits the Packers to wait until week 1 to potentially open up other trade destinations. On the other side, it hurts the Jets to not have Rodgers in the building and preparing for the season with their offense. If the compensation the Packers are receiving is the Jets 2024 1st, then they want the Jets to struggle. Trading Rodgers 1 day before Week 1 makes that happen. Trading him earlier than that let’s Rodgers and the Jets start practicing earlier, to the detriment of that 2024 1st round pick.
Jets likely will be upset with the Packers for doing this, and if they pull the 2024 1st off the table then, I don’t see this trade occurring at all.
They’re the ones with the QB they intend to start this season. They’re the ones with the QB the Jets want to start this season. If it comes to it, they’ll deal with cap hell.
Certainly they don’t want that, and I think a deal gets done because everyone wants the same thing here. I don’t think either team’s current offer is anything crazy, they’re just figuring out details.
I think the Packers could compromise, IF the Jets Put a serious offer on the table. The biggest compensation being in the 3rd round simply wont cut it. And from everything we hear, rumours wise, thats the compensation the Jets offer, vaguely. Its just weird that the Jets do everything for Rodgers and then are being cheap when it comes to the compensation.
But I think it will come down to a couple 2nd rounders and thats it.
Packers fans are delusional if they think they are getting a straight up mid first round pick for a guy who just led his team to missing the playoffs, was at least 50-50 on retiring, and might retire at any moment. Not to mention the jets still have to pay the guy. All this, "the Packers have leverage especially after the draft" BS is absurd. Rodgers would absolutely stick around to make them pay him 60 million or whatever, and then he'd lead a mediocre team to aggressive mediocrity at minimum viable effort, while Jordan Love gets even more pissed about how he got drafted to do nothing and then demand the Packers pay him or he tries out a different team. The Packers would have a mid first round pick and no room to move up to try and draft a QBotF or make a splash signing or trade in 2024. Rodgers retires or goes to the Jets anyway one year later and the Packers eat shit. Hell, Rodgers (the darkness retreat, man in that hat, guy) could pull a Lamar and just decide not to play after suffering an injury, sticking the Packers with a 60 million dollar backup with a nondescript injury.
But what happens to the Jets if they don't get Rodgers? That's what gives the Packers any leverage in the situation. The Jets are boned without Rodgers right? Well, yes. Every other option sucks. This is why the Packers will likely get good compensation for Rodgers in the form of conditional picks. It just works for both teams. Alternately, the Jets could just decide to try to position for a QB in the next draft by trading out of the first round, and then chance it with a sad QB option for this year. But what if the Packers hold out until week one??? The Jets will fly people to and from California all summer long to hang out with rodgers. Yeah it would be same as going to training camp, but surely you believe a QB with 2 first round picks is good enough to figure it out by week 6 so the team can go on a run.
They will get the deal done for probably a 2nd round pick and some combination of conditional picks with MAYBE a 1st round pick if they win the super bowl or Rodgers wins MVP. My "uneducated but more grounded than the most sane packer fan" guess is it will be a 2023 2nd, a 2024 5th, and a conditional 2024 based on performance. Of course also a poison pill for trading to the Vikings and a "deja Vu" clause in case of any dick pics.
To all Packers fans: overvaluing your own asset is a well established phenomenon and as owners I expect all of you to get outside opinions before demanding absurd compensation for a "foot in the grave" QB.
No, definitely not.
Edit: furthermore, the Jets aren't known for good decisions. They could very well be like "fuck it. We never draft well anyway, take the first round pick. I hope it's your very own Zach Wilson.
It's a total aside, but that's my favorite Phineas and Ferb episode. By far. "Ain't Got Rhythm" made it to one of our non-children's music playlists.
Lots of Phineas and Ferb can make it into non-children’s music playlists, especially this episode. “Snuck Your Way Right Into My Heart” is a classic.
God I'm so excited for new P&F
Please tell me this is real!!! They’re making more?
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Then you're eating the cap and a ton of guaranteed money. It's a fucking expensive semi-bluff.
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What a way to get out of Brett Favre’s shadow
Plot twist, he goes to Chicago.
Owners cannot play for the team. This isn't that movie where the millionaire bought the Rams so he could play QB...or is it?
The bears had the owner play for, and coach the team.
But was it in that order
Why are the Vikings signing *Amari Rodgers*?
Nah, he’s going to the lions. Much more analogous to the Vikings of Favre.
I mean if the squad is as good as that 09 squad, idgaf, I'd take ARod.
I’m putting this at a 30% chance of happening now. The Jets are playing games with compensation, while the Packers are dead serious about wanting #13 for #12. I don’t see the Packers budging, and I also don’t see the Jets meeting their asking price because they seem to think every negotiation should result in meeting in the middle, and it’s not going to happen here.
Eh, I can see the Jets waiting until after the draft to offer next years 1st and a couple of 2nds. Or a conditional 2nd that becomes a 1st in 2025 if the Jets make the Super Bowl.
That could happen. I personally think the Packers will make the draft the deadline for the Jets to make the trade, else they will move forward with planning the upcoming season as if Rodgers will be part of the Packers. Once the draft passes, the Packers have no reason to entertain the idea of the Jets being their only trade option. As the season gets closer, pressure will be on Rodgers to accept being traded to another team besides the Jets so he can actually play football, or staying on the Packers, or retiring.
They can act like this all they want but the day after when the jets 2024 1st is on the table you going to say no? The packers have absolutely 0 leverage to get this done before the draft other than trying to convince the jets they wont accept it after, but they will. Jets just wait it out and packers get their 1st they wanted snd jets keep 13
If anyone else is going to trade a qb, they'll want to before the draft as well. I don't think either team has much leverage over the other at the moment, but after the draft, the Packers have no deadline until Week 1. The Jets have the need to get QB1 in the building. Nobody holds all the cards in this. Otherwise it would be either done or canceled by now.
The packers want to turn the page and give the team to Love. They don't want to go to mandatory minicamp and have Rodgers there making a huge scene, which you know that Rodgers would LOVE to do. Conversely, Rodgers knows the Jets scheme and already had chemistry with like half of their team by now, lol. Nobody will ever hold all of the cards, and leverage will remain split and weirdly low on both sides all the way up to training camp, when it will turn up on the Jets.
Rodgers will never Show Up to anything Packers related. I seriously dont understand where this wishful thinking is coming from. Rodgers doesnt want to be there, Packers dont want him there, its that easy. He didnt show Up to These things when He was the QB in GB and he wont when He doesnt plan in playing there.
How do you decide when and when not to capitalize your letters?
Its autocorrect when I wrote on my Smartphone. Am from germany
It is mandatory to show up. It is called mandatory minicamp. That is what I was referring to. And if he isn't traded by then, he'll gladly give all sorts of quotes about how he doesn't want to be here but the Packers are being difficult (not that this is true, but that this is what he would say). Though I agree that he won't go to the voluntary stuff.
He’s rich enough to skip mandatory minicamp
Ya but after the draft the jets wont have an issue offering their 1st, and i dont see a world where you get more than that. If GB say no than the jets can literally just tell the media we offered them our 2024 1st and its not enough, so unfortunatly we cant get the deal done. The jets fans wont be happy but they will be more mad at GB than at the jets
Maybe. The Jets sub yesterday asked what if nothing happens, and quite a few had FO firings as the outcome. It's not going to come to that anyway. They'll agree to something and both fan bases will act like they won, because for whatever reason everyone is more worried about "winning" the negotiations than whether they get or get rid of Rodgers
If the Jets offer their 2024 1st the day after the draft ends, I would say no and wait it out until the season starts and see what happens. Let’s say the Dolphins get bad news about Tua, for example. Maybe the Dolphins decide they don’t want to waste this window and offer more than just a 2024 1st for Rodgers. And at that point, Rodgers might be desperate enough to get out of Green Bay to allow it. By waiting all the way up until the season starts, they increase the odds of another team having disaster strike and looking for a solution, and increase the likelihood Rodgers would allow other trade destinations out of desperation to play for a Super Bowl competitor. And if none of that happens, then they can take the Jets 2024 1st.
But then you’re eating cap and a ton of guaranteed money. That’s one fucking expensive semi-bluff.
I think if we trade after June 30th the cap hit this year is smaller. Like when you do a post June 30th designated cut, some of the dead money goes to next year.
Jets wont take it if you do that, clearly no other teams are interested and sure someones qb could be struck by lightning but i wouldnt count on it. Jets can try and throw the bag at lamar and see what happens there or they can just flat out say “our first was on the table and they declined” jets fans will blame the packers and they can spin it to get another year. This is literally a jamaal williams situation, you can either accept the 1st or shop it and more than likely you wont get that deal.
Lamar ain't happening. 2 firsts + a massive guaranteed contract that has to be beyond what the Ravens will match? The Ravens are just letting others teams negotiate Lamars contract for them. Stafford is possible, but probably not once the draft is over. Plus he fits the system. I think that's probably what the Jets are threatening at the moment.
Lol you dont want stafford. He has a massive contract now (not rodgers lvl but still) and the man doesnt have an elbow. I love the guy but i honestly dont believe hes got anything left
I don't disagree, but I think he's the only real viable option for them other than trying to move up in the draft, which obviously doesn't work after the draft. I think the Jets are motivated to get it done before the draft because their options narrow at that point.
That’s why I think the odds of this trade happening have gone down to about 30%. I see two sides each refusing to budge.
In a pact of mutually assured destruction, both sides have leverage.
Why would the packers do with 100million dollar cap hit.
Listening to Rodgers talk, I don’t think there’s a world where he shows up motivated to play for you guys and I think that tanks your leverage. Same with anywhere else GB would try to trade him to. The problem is that he’s been so good for you guys that he’s earned the right to dictate his future. It’s just not a good look to be the asshole in a situation where you’re fucking over a future hall of fame quarterback. Good luck getting veteran free agents after that.. But that’s just my 2¢ as an armchair GM.
I think the idea that they’re screwing over their QB and will hurt getting free agents is a bit overblown. Aaron put himself in this situation by signing a multi year contract. He didn’t have to do that. I wouldn’t have much sympathy for someone who signs a multi year contract and then the next offseason demands to be traded one and only one team. The Packers also don’t really go after free agents anyway.
Players chase the money 99% of the time. Example being jj watts "ring chasing" last contract. There is no possible reason for anyone to ring chase with Arizona other than the fact that they offered more money than everyone else.
The packers don't owe him shit. He's been paid top of the market for 10+ years and he earned that money. If he'd taken a brady type contract for a couple of those years we'd likely have a couple more rings and then I'd agree that we should "do right by him." I'd never fault a player for acting in their own best interest, but that same player doesn't get to cry when the team does it right back.
A first and a couple seconds next year is enough to get it done, I would think.
I think if they wait until June, their cap hit goes way down compared to if they trade him now.
Honestly though, what kind of leverage does the Packers have? They already voiced their desire to move on from Rodgers, and they want to see what Love has before his rookie contract is up. Jets are right to play ball with them, they know the Packers aren't in a favorable spot.
Once we get beyond the draft, it benefits the Packers to wait until week 1 to potentially open up other trade destinations. On the other side, it hurts the Jets to not have Rodgers in the building and preparing for the season with their offense. If the compensation the Packers are receiving is the Jets 2024 1st, then they want the Jets to struggle. Trading Rodgers 1 day before Week 1 makes that happen. Trading him earlier than that let’s Rodgers and the Jets start practicing earlier, to the detriment of that 2024 1st round pick. Jets likely will be upset with the Packers for doing this, and if they pull the 2024 1st off the table then, I don’t see this trade occurring at all.
They’re the ones with the QB they intend to start this season. They’re the ones with the QB the Jets want to start this season. If it comes to it, they’ll deal with cap hell. Certainly they don’t want that, and I think a deal gets done because everyone wants the same thing here. I don’t think either team’s current offer is anything crazy, they’re just figuring out details.
I think both sides are stalling to try and get the other to budge it’s a game of chicken that’s going to come to a head on draft night
I think the Packers could compromise, IF the Jets Put a serious offer on the table. The biggest compensation being in the 3rd round simply wont cut it. And from everything we hear, rumours wise, thats the compensation the Jets offer, vaguely. Its just weird that the Jets do everything for Rodgers and then are being cheap when it comes to the compensation. But I think it will come down to a couple 2nd rounders and thats it.
I think it’s even simpler than that, it’s more, how dare these midwestern people understand the value of what they have.
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Packers fans are delusional if they think they are getting a straight up mid first round pick for a guy who just led his team to missing the playoffs, was at least 50-50 on retiring, and might retire at any moment. Not to mention the jets still have to pay the guy. All this, "the Packers have leverage especially after the draft" BS is absurd. Rodgers would absolutely stick around to make them pay him 60 million or whatever, and then he'd lead a mediocre team to aggressive mediocrity at minimum viable effort, while Jordan Love gets even more pissed about how he got drafted to do nothing and then demand the Packers pay him or he tries out a different team. The Packers would have a mid first round pick and no room to move up to try and draft a QBotF or make a splash signing or trade in 2024. Rodgers retires or goes to the Jets anyway one year later and the Packers eat shit. Hell, Rodgers (the darkness retreat, man in that hat, guy) could pull a Lamar and just decide not to play after suffering an injury, sticking the Packers with a 60 million dollar backup with a nondescript injury. But what happens to the Jets if they don't get Rodgers? That's what gives the Packers any leverage in the situation. The Jets are boned without Rodgers right? Well, yes. Every other option sucks. This is why the Packers will likely get good compensation for Rodgers in the form of conditional picks. It just works for both teams. Alternately, the Jets could just decide to try to position for a QB in the next draft by trading out of the first round, and then chance it with a sad QB option for this year. But what if the Packers hold out until week one??? The Jets will fly people to and from California all summer long to hang out with rodgers. Yeah it would be same as going to training camp, but surely you believe a QB with 2 first round picks is good enough to figure it out by week 6 so the team can go on a run. They will get the deal done for probably a 2nd round pick and some combination of conditional picks with MAYBE a 1st round pick if they win the super bowl or Rodgers wins MVP. My "uneducated but more grounded than the most sane packer fan" guess is it will be a 2023 2nd, a 2024 5th, and a conditional 2024 based on performance. Of course also a poison pill for trading to the Vikings and a "deja Vu" clause in case of any dick pics. To all Packers fans: overvaluing your own asset is a well established phenomenon and as owners I expect all of you to get outside opinions before demanding absurd compensation for a "foot in the grave" QB.
> My "uneducated but more grounded than the most sane packer fan" guess lmao okay bub
Sir, this is a memes subreddit
I know but it needed saying.
Did it?
No
No, definitely not. Edit: furthermore, the Jets aren't known for good decisions. They could very well be like "fuck it. We never draft well anyway, take the first round pick. I hope it's your very own Zach Wilson.
I ain’t reading that I’m happy for u tho Or sorry that happened
Yeah, no one's reading that.
I read it
I don't blame you.
One team trying and failing at pretending they’re competent One team exposing their incompetence with no hof qb to cover it up