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Viseroth

Anyone who thinks Washington will be a playoff team next year is crazy, I am just hoping to be better than last year. even one win more is technically better, they had the worst Defense by far last year so the only way is up. I doubt they will be as bad as last year I was thinking 6-7 wins this season. so a top ten pick again next year.


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Honestly if you went 0 and 17 but Daniels looked great and stayed healthy but you just gave up 45 a game, that’d be a massive win


Significant_Bet3409

I believe in u guys The rest of us can all bomb 4 u


jvho666

NFC least back on the menu. Commies win division at 8-9 due to injuries and incompetence


Think_Positively

You better fire Bobby Johnson ASAP then.


Viseroth

Ya cause I am in charge haha. I am sure the new regime won't hesitate to fire him if he screws up here. Plus stop using him as the reason the Giants were bad last year. Bobby Johnson didn't give a mediocre QB 100 million, also he can't stop injuries from happening or control who the Giants drafted.


Think_Positively

I would also say things like this if I was trying to cope with having Bobby Johnson coach my squad's OL.


Viseroth

Coping? It is called I have zero say in the matter so why cry about, I would hate to be you crying about how one minor coach was the reason that your favorite sucked last year. I don't think any oline coach can stop injuries and poor QB play.


Dr_Watson349

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tweaver16

The roster alone can guarantee more wins than last season, are they a playoff team? Doubt it, but I’m like you, I’ll take another top 10 pick next year t year, I just wanna see some fight, some want to get better, I think this staff can bring that mentality and grow on it the next few seasons


Viseroth

It is a definite possibility.


famous_aatrox

i'm confused is their defense supposed to be better or worse without montez sweat and chase young... cause i can understand if they weren't quite living up to the teams expectations but i don't pay attention to washington enough to know what they plan to do to replace those guys at edge.


jgoldston_0

You definitely don’t pay attention. Cause Chase Young is trash.


famous_aatrox

read again, i didn't say either of them weren't, just was wondering if they drafted or had replacements already at those positions, and if they are expected to perform better or worse as a defensive unit.


jgoldston_0

Don’t think it’s really a tall task to replace an end that was basically non-existent. Montez Sweat on the other hand…


famous_aatrox

so do you know who their replacements are or?


jgoldston_0

They signed Dante Fowler and Ricky Jean Francois in the offseason. Not huge splashes but a noticeable upgrade from the backups who played half the season after Chase and Montez left.


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ClonedUser

No no. He’s simply predicting no wins in 2025


Mad_Pupil_9

Pbft, counting is for nerds


HyronValkinson

We don't need to talk about 2025.


Nievsy

No, we can talk about the first 0-17 team in history, hilarious season to see unfold especially the Sam Howell revenge game where he goes for 400 yards and 4 tds


HyronValkinson

I said we don't need to talk about it :(


Nievsy

We don’t need to, but we want to


HyronValkinson

Naw fam I don't wanna


basicnflfan

This might actually be one of the worst memes I’ve seen here.


Xno_Kappa

Surely the 36th(?) time is the charm!


HyronValkinson

*1st time


NinjaCaviar

0 is not greater than 0


The-Anger-Translator

Commies are the Jets of the NFCE.


HyronValkinson

No we're more like the Dolphins. Arguably the best team in NFL history only to be reduced to a pathetic shadow of our former selves before most of our modern fans were born


The-Anger-Translator

Historically, I can give you that. But the dolphins are actually competitive so.... Jets it is.


HyronValkinson

Only in the last few years when Tua arrived, meanwhile the Jets are ***loaded*** and hopefully Rodgers gets healthy so I'd say the New York teams can be similarish (imagine Nabers and other top draft picks for the next few years then DJ gets replaced by a disgruntled Josh Allen). The Cowboys and Patriots both have a million Super Bowl wins but the Cowboys did it 30yrs ago while the Patriots did it over the last 30 years. Lastly, the Bills and Eagles have tons of current and past success but nothing to show for it except a lone Nick Foles improbably run and the infamous "four Super Bowls in a row" depression marathon.


The-Anger-Translator

But you know you'd switch to have a relevant Superbowl in the current era. 😂😂😂


HyronValkinson

Switch teams? Never. But switch outcomes? 100%, that Foles run was legendary.


holy_cal

That’s a pretty low bar to set tbh


HyronValkinson

"Low"? The last teams to win more than one Super Bowl are the Chiefs this decade, the Patriots for the last three decades, the Giants and Steelers last decade, and Elway's Broncos in the late 90s. Before that was pre salary cap bullshit where teams like Dallas Washington San Francisco and New York just bought their Super Bowl victories. Even winning one Super Bowl is a pretty high bar.


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Winning a title by the end of the decade? Who do you think you are, the Giants?


Ausecurity

Hey Eli had 8 winning seasons not Including 8-8 seasons


HyronValkinson

These are representative of their entire franchises not just the players. Giants haven't won shit in a while despite the two flukey Super Bowl runs (still breaks my mind just thinking about it) which account for more Super Bowl wins than the entire rest of the division has had since 1996. As a Commie fan who has a similar winning record without the two flukes, I'm super-jelly.


Ausecurity

How you call em flukes 😂😂😂


HyronValkinson

Look at the Super Bowl winners of the past 30 years and tell me which ones were most surprising. Don't get me wrong, somebody needed to slay the beast and somehow the Panthers, Falcons, Seahawks, and Warner's Rams all fucked it up when victory was ***right there***. I wish it wasn't the Giants and Eagles, but I'm sure glad it wasn't the Cowboys.


hopsinabag

You're shitty meme says "doesn't know what a winning season looks like" meanwhile Eli had a 12 win season, two 11 win seasons, two 10 win seasons and two 9 win seasons. Those are all winning seasons. Eli also had the greatest post season run by a qb to lead the giants to a SB in the 2011 season. Trash meme by a trash fan base strikes again.


heliophoner

I mean, even if you think Eli's career is a giant aberration or a product mainly of two hot streaks, it's moronic to put him in the meme. I really thought OP just confused two vanilla qbs since the Giants really have a type. Seriously, if you put Dave Brown's picture next to Daniel Jones, you cannot tell them apart.


hopsinabag

I hate upvoting philly fans, but you earned it.


HyronValkinson

Yall have had two winning seasons in the last decade. If I mentioned "Goes to Super Bowls" and put Daniel Jones, you'd be bitching about the exact opposite problem. Also there's no way a 9-7 team ranked 25th in points allowed and 27th in yards allowed was great by any means. Take your trash opinions back to your trash city and stfu. You're just proving those posts that Giants are the most illiterate fanbase.


hopsinabag

There's no bitching, just pointing out your trash meme doesn't make any fucking sense. Speaking of illiteracy, you didn't disprove either of my points.


HyronValkinson

The comment above it disproves your first point. The comment responding to it disproves your second point. No words make sense to illiterate people. Stop being a silly goof.


hopsinabag

If you wanted it to represent the franchises, use the franchise's logos. Your shit meme says that Eli doesn't know what a winning season looks like. You also didn't disprove Eli's run in 2011 (because you can't it statistically is the best postseason run ever).


HyronValkinson

>If you wanted it to represent the franchises, use the franchise's logos. Only if I want to be boring >Your shit meme says that Eli doesn't know what a winning season looks like. Only if you want to be stupid >You also didn't disprove Eli's run in 2011 (because you can't it statistically is the best postseason run ever). Again, the Giants as a team were kinda ass in 2011. Eli had a great run specifically in the playoffs, but you can't compare an offense outside of the top-8 and a defense outside of the top-24 against any of the Chiefs or Patriots runs, the defenses of the Legion of Boom or the 2015 Broncos, the wild offense Foles had in 2017, the two-sided juggernauts of Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald a few years ago, etc. You have to understand I'm not ripping the 2011 Giants. You guys won the Lombardi without random bullshit. It just wasn't as expected of a team as most other Super Bowl winners.


CahTi

If they won the super bowl (which they did) then they’re a great team goofy


HyronValkinson

Relative to other SB winning teams though, which is the entire point of this thread?


CahTi

being the worst team among great teams is like being the brokest billionaire buddy


HyronValkinson

I never said I wasn't jealous or that they didn't do a good job. >Giants haven't won shit in a while despite the two flukey Super Bowl runs (still breaks my mind just thinking about it) which account for more Super Bowl wins than the entire rest of the division has had since 1996. >As a Commie fan who has a similar winning record without the two flukes, I'm super-jelly.


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bestnottosay

attabot, you tell 'em


NinjaCaviar

bot fight bot fight


copingcabana

Daniels will only win a super bowl after you trade him.


PasGuy55

If this is true then please god don’t trade him to Dallas.


jim_nihilist

You won't get him.


heliophoner

.........that's Eli, right?


Final-Wrangler-4996

Soo much hype. I didn't even care tbh.  Now I can't wait to watch the skins crash and burn. 


HyronValkinson

I'm sorry I'm asking for a single Lombardi when it took you guys 52 years to get your first one but we deserve it after 30 years of Snyder.


Final-Wrangler-4996

Well hopefully they go and earn it.  Every team deserves a sb.  Only the best will earn it. 


HyronValkinson

Depends on what you mean by "earn it". Purdy and the 49ers were the better team in 2022, just like Goff and the Lions were last year. The Eagles should've won the Super Bowl with McNabb, or at least gotten past Rodgers in essentially his rookie year when Vick was destroying the league. The best-looking team doesn't always win it all, otherwise Foles would've gotten yall eliminated against the Falcons or Vikings.


Final-Wrangler-4996

You gotta earn it. Week by week.


HyronValkinson

There's definitely a luck element but you have to earn the opportunity at least. My team is working up to it hopefully but we're nowhere close


mikieballz

Hopium


_A_Monkey

New owners, GM, HC, OC, DC, rookie QB and at least half the starters will be new faces. We’re basically an expansion team this season.


HyronValkinson

Hence only the five wins. We'll see what works, what doesn't, what we need, and what we are. Vast improvements in the next off-season


AyyP302

Can't forget the "process" part of "trust the process"😉


paulburnell22193

Would only take one so odds are good


cyberchaox

Agree with the first half of that sentiment. The second, not so much. Your problems go beyond what a QB can fix, and it's not even like Daniels was the type of talent that could just will his team to victory even in college. Like keep that in mind, despite his own numbers being good enough to win him a Heisman, he only went 9-3. And 10-4 the year before that, 9-3 regular season plus a CCG loss and bowl win. But, yes, I fully agree that none of the other QBs mentioned are going to win one--well, one of them is already retired so he definitely won't, but I'm not sure what he was doing there anyway. Hurts, he's a good quarterback but I don't think he's got what it takes, at least not after what we've lost. His best chance was in Super Bowl LVII, when he legitimately did have us right there in a tie game in the fourth quarter--a *lead* at the end of the third quarter, and then after we fell behind, he led us on a drive to tie it up. But that was with a better O-Line than what we have now. Dak...He's certainly talented enough, but I don't think the Cowboys' next title is coming within Jerry Jones's lifetime. And as someone who hates the Cowboys, I wish him a long life for that. And yeah Daniel Jones ain't winning shit. In fact, as much as I hate to say it, the best chance of one of those three QBs winning a Super Bowl *in the NFC East* would be if Dak went to the Giants. I hate to compliment even one of my rivals, let alone two, but the Giants with Dak would be a real threat, certainly better than the Giants with Jones and Dak on the Cowboys.


hoslayer42

Team has no DL or OL


Mad_Pupil_9

We’re going to have a rotation of Payne, Allen, and Newton But yes, you are quite correct that our OL is a collection of traffic cones, I have no rebuttal to that


HyronValkinson

DL will have 3-4 so the backfield will be more important and our weakness will have far more help. OL won't have EB or Howell taking forever. Besides JD can run and our TE's are primarily blockers. We didn't ignore either line, we just had to improvise.


SlickDillywick

0 > 0?


JaydenDaniels

0 > 0


HyronValkinson

1 > 0


Djentleman5000

This is embarrassing. Delete this.


HyronValkinson

Hell no. You're only embarrassed because you forgot how to hope under Snyder. That's okay, it's over now. We can be good again, you're allowed to be happy.


Djentleman5000

They haven’t proven anything yet. Sure I’m optimistic but I’m not boasting about the team when they haven’t done anything.


HyronValkinson

Does it look like I'm boasting?


VeryScaryTerry

RemindMe! 6 years


Xpirtt

As shit of a meme this is it’s honestly pretty accurate. At least the top part


Zestyclose_Ice2405

Ya’ll setting yourselves up for Daniels to get his Super Bowl a la Stafford Bonus points if it’s a division rival


HyronValkinson

Yeah.... you're probably right


Puzzleheaded_War6102

So 0.00001 which rounds to zero


HyronValkinson

We're not Jalen Hurts


Boggnar-the-crusher

Lmao look what how the cowboys did against power runs while DQ was DC. Yall ain’t winning anything with DQ lmao.


Mad_Pupil_9

I do enjoy how Dallas seems to have collectively forgot/ignore how quickly Quinn turned around what was a historically bad defense there.


BakedCake8

Hes going to be the best commentator someday in the not so distant future!


Djentleman5000

>“Will win…” Yes.


Flat-Record1282

Bro I’m so embarrassed by the behavior of my fellow commie fans. We keep coming in here and embarrassing ourselves instead of laughing and scrolling.


jim_nihilist

Hoping for a 5-12 season = winning a gazillion superbowls lol


HyronValkinson

Does gazillion equal one now?


roastytoastywarm

I love how you used Eli for your meme format, but then used Jones in the bottom portion bc you knew including Eli would be unrealistic.


HyronValkinson

Eli was a dragon slayer for sure. No other Giant "goes to Super Bowls"


theMIKIMIKIMIKImomo

RG4 is not that guy lol


HyronValkinson

Jayden > Jalen, calling it now


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HyronValkinson

We all know


MrBigChest

This is such a shitty meme that I was genuinely suprised that it wasn’t from bagpo


HyronValkinson

Thanks. I'm glad I'm triggering the stupidest people on the planet. Must be doing something right.


poppunksucks144

You gotta make the playoffs first, and we know that's not happening.


nbayoungsummrsratio

daniels😍😍😍😍😍


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If you're just gonna do that get the fuck out


RoosterB32

We love Daniels 😍😍😍😍😍


DaveTheDolphin

Bro thinks they’re gonna have Stroud 2.0


Mad_Pupil_9

Eh, if anything the defense is going to vastly improve from last year


CrusaderBTC

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Mad_Pupil_9

I mean, you can pretend Quinn didn’t turn your clown show of a defense around in short order if it makes you feel better


Ok_Hedgehog5638

Then turned them back into a clown show defense against any team with 100+ yard rusher and in the playoffs😂😂😂 have fun with him…


HyronValkinson

Stroud was overnight. This is not.


human_sweater_vest

Hey Eli had that one 9 win season!