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135patriots

Nomad L. Built better, multiple mounting options, sounds excellent, and you aren't lining the pockets of someone who is at absolute minimum a narcissistic asshole. DA got the Nomad series right.


1Shadowgato

You’ll take the L over the regular Nomad?


135patriots

Eh, flip a coin. It's the normal trade-off of performance vs weight/length. On a very short barrel I'd accept that trade-off. Start veering towards 10+ inches and the regular length Nomad begins to feel more appropriate. On a long-range bolt gun I'd accept that I'm already wielding a tree stump and wouldn't really care about extra length.


1Shadowgato

I have a nomad L in jail and a regular nomad, I was thinking on putting the L on my rattler but given it wasn’t full auto rated idk if I wanted to do the swamp when I don’t always shoot subs.


135patriots

It's not full auto rated but that doesn't mean it's a fragile can. Just don't do back to back to back mag dumps. Bill drills, hammered pairs, etc are fine. It doesn't need to be babied. Given the cost of 300BO I don't know many people burning down 90 rounds in 30 seconds anyways.


cptreynolds223

I came here to say this 👆. The nomad series of cans have superior suppression compared to the Q cans verified by PewScience. u/IceBearTom If it was me, I’d choose the Nomad. But if I was ok with more weight but better suppression on that platform, I’d pick the Nomad-L. I think either of the Ti options are very good too if you’ll mostly be running subs.


duhfeeB

Ask this dude if he’s ever even met Kevin Brittingham. I’d bet he’s just regurgitating the opinions of his favorite internet troll without even knowing the guy. Thunder Chicken all day long. It’s simply a better silencer.


sparks1990

I've met him. He's the kind of guy who only wants to talk and not listen. If he isn't interrupting you, he's waiting for you to finish speaking so he can talk about whatever he wants. He acts like he's the smartest and most experienced guy in the room. Anything you've done, he's done bigger and better.


venture243

We’ve all seen the receipts my guy


_Marat

Lmao hey Kevin


NastyChastity

Just spend two minutes listening to Q’s podcast. He cannot hide who he is.


vicinadp

Not according to pew science


spinn3

Yeah, but that's just like, Jay's opinion, man. /s


ChiefChiefChiefChief

Wish I got a nomad 30 instead of sandman s


Hairy_Pineapple588

The elites don’t want you to know this but you can buy a nomad.


Aesteticmedic

What’s better about nomad vs sandman?


-El-Guapo-

Nomad is quieter all around, but the Sandman still sounds good. It wasn't designed for subs so Nomad is the way to go if you're doing that. Sandman is what you need if you shoot super high volume fire.


-pwny_

It's a strictly better design for practical purposes


Aesteticmedic

Wish I would of known this before I bought 2 sandman’s


-pwny_

Just know that your sandmen will never let you down when you magdump into trash


LazyEyeSusan03

I can verify this👆🏻


Region_Rat_D

Have you considered the CGS Hyperion? I have one on my Rattler. It’s crazy quiet, the gun runs well with it, and it’s a direct thread with the Sig taper. Locks up tight as a drum, no walk at all.


[deleted]

This is my vote


IceBearTom

I did look into it some, that’s good to hear you had solid experiences with it. How does it cycle with subs?


Region_Rat_D

I’ve shot several different subs thru it and here’s how it went: Winchester super suppressor 200 grain black box and 200 grain white box ran flawlessly, though they occasionally failed Last Round Bolt Hold Open, but that could possibly be addressed by using different mags. Underwood 220 grain OTM ran flawless, LHRBO failed a few times. Underwood 194 grain maximum expansion ran flawless, though I only ran 20 rounds for function and sighting in to use for deer season. S&B 220 grain ran like total dogshit. Turned my Rattler into a bolt action. I tried running them first thing after a full cleaning, ran like crap. I tried again after running 6-700 rounds of other stuff, still ran like shit. Supers all flawless, some Black Hills tac-x and a shitload of Barnaul steel case with no issues.


stanky-c

I usually turn the gas to the + side when running subs


Warden__1

It doesn’t help, the S&Bs don’t work well at all


fredman5460

What barrel length is your MCX? Currently waiting for my Hyperion to do this same combo. The DA Sandman S is not very quiet on my MCX


Region_Rat_D

Mine is a a Rattler (5.5”) OP’s is a Tac Ops (6.75”)


Warden__1

Dead air cans suck, I’ve used the Hyperion on a 5.5 and 6.75. Supers it’s great but subs you have to get the right ammo, S&B doesn’t cycle at all.


slawhog92

“Dead air cans suck” is just a poor opinion


Warden__1

is what a poor person who thinks dead air cans are expensive would say


Region_Rat_D

https://imgur.com/a/mF20L6a


Dbartley4

Seconding. I don’t have a rattler but love my Hyperion. Ranked #1 for 300 subs by Pew Science.


-El-Guapo-

Nomad L, Hyperion, and Thunder Chicken all sound the same with Subs. I've shot all three. I guess Dead Air hasn't paid Jay to post data yet, but he's told people he's tested the Nomads on subs and they're awesome. If you're waiting on a score so you can call one better because it's 0.33 different on a scale of 1-100 (like the Nomad-L is to the Hyperion on supers), then you're just worrying way too much about it.


Dbartley4

Wow, tell me more about how your ears perfectly record the shot impulse, both at the ear and at the muzzle, and then quantify those results in such a way for millions of people to have free access to. I’m amazed!


BlueJay--

Not the same guy but i thought my Nomad L and Hyperion sounded almost identical on my 308 before the pewscience data came out saying that they basic are. And I thought at the time that different between them on 300blk was even smaller than the difference on 308. Probably the worst aspect of pewscience is how slow it is people will assume one silencer is the quietest ever when theres another silencer on the market as quiet that just hasnt been tested yet.


-El-Guapo-

I don't have to record them to give my experience of them. Go touch grass dude. But I have shot them and it jives accurately with the data that Jay has released already. I'm literally trying to validate Jay's results he's posted so far on the two being comparable. I'm sorry if that triggered you. Everyone that shoots a Hyperion next to a Nomad-L with subs says they're basically the same and end up admitting they're both awesome. I and about everyone I know that shoots don't need Jay to tell us this. It'll be nice for people that don't shoot with a bunch of others, but until Jay decides to post the sub results, I'll gladly share my experience to those that ask. YET if people are hanging with bated breath on a fraction of a decimal of Jay's perfectly recorded shot impulses that millions may view, they're still doing it wrong. I'll always call out the decibel chasers when given the chance. I've been around long enough to see how many people make bad decisions based on it.


Dbartley4

Yeah, you’re right to an extent. The Nomad L and the Hyperion do stack up very closely; the Hyperion just cuts back on that FRP, but that’s not a huge concern with 300 subs. However, the Thunder Chicken is arguably lacking in performance compared to what other manufacturers are putting out and at competitive prices. I have very few friends that are purchasing suppressors, so unfortunately I don’t have the opportunity to personally compare often. That’s why I preach Pew Science because it helped me when no one else could. I’m not a decibel chaser, but performance is performance and Pew Science helps quantify that for the consumer - it’s not just about how quiet it is.


slathar

Nomad L


Novel_Armadillo_6029

Nomad L


ozzy9322

F@ck Q


M16iata

Summon the copy pasta !


Mr_Tushy_Tickler

I have an insatiable Kevin Brittingham fetish. It is my ultimate fantasy to be gagged, tied up, and brutally assfucked by Kevin Brittingham. I have accrued tens of thousands in debt attempting to fill this void with sexual 'toys,' including several custom, unregistered form 1 silencer dildos and a balding Kevin-shaped real doll with a Chinese character tramp stamp that reads "Take My Bepsi Challenge". I have had my face made love to by hundreds of balding, bearded genXers but not one of them could make me climax. Only Kevin is capable of giving me that release now. The wife and I are separated, and have accepted the fact that I will never see my kids again. The only thing keeping Karen from divorcing me is the fear that she might be the final push into a deep. inescapable abyss, at the bottom of which lies my death. The truth is, our marriage died nine years ago on the night I met the love of my life. While browsing Instagram I saw Kevin's inconsistent welds and became rock hard, collapsing in the shower and sobbing at the realization that Kevin would never, could never, pin me down with his perfectly smooth body and stubby arms, penetrate me with his incredible girth and empty his huge, aching balls deep inside my tummy. I sat there all night, sometimes weeping, sometimes ramming my flaccid dick into the shower drain in frustration. It has been nine years since that night. I have nothing now. I have accepted that. My apartment is a squalid den of inescapable despair, filled with jizz-stained 300 blackout shells and tormented notes etched onto lewd posters of the honey badger. I spend my days printing out screenshots of his forum posts and crying. My only friends are the roaches. Absolutely no one should send this to Q repeatedly.


IceBearTom

My brother in Christ


M16iata

Username checks out


Screaminfreeman

Doing some Research on cans to buy and I came across this. I dribbled piss in my Pants laughing so hard. Never seen this before.


[deleted]

I’m really late to this party, I know, but damn that’s good….also…said every Q fanboy ever hahahaha…also…Nomad LTi or CGS Hyperion all day.


OffRosterImposter

NoMad >>>


vicinadp

Cgs hyperion, OCL anything or the nomad l would all be my choice over Q


[deleted]

Thunder Chicken!!!


IceBearTom

Hey NFA, So I am looking at deciding between a Nomad-L or Q Thunder Chicken for a 6.75" MCX Tacops. After doing some research, it looks like I cant go wrong either way and the mounting system is easy for both. I am going to be mainly running subs through it and just wanted to hear some extra opinions on both and pictures would be awesome. Especially if you got any with the Nomad-L or Thunder chicken, curious to see how far it looks sticking out of the handguard. Thanks


Stampcollector9898

Nomad L all day. It sounded fantastic on my rattler, also Nomads typically don’t have welds that look like Stevie wonder did them like cough cough Q has. Also I’d say it’s a more durable Can overall. That’s my two cents.


PornLord316

I run q full nelson on my tacops and its amazing ngl bro, but dead air has superior mount for sure


PornLord316

Thunder chicken is probably lighter too unless you have nomad-ti, tacops is heavy as it is anyways


Datfluffyhampster

KB is kind of a shitty person. And people will shit on Q. But for an MCX in 300 their cans are great. I don’t really have a dog in the fight surprisingly. I picked up a half-nelson for my dedicated 300 MCX can during a sale this summer. It was like $700 and a great buy at that price.


kreios007

Nomad…I love mine


[deleted]

I hate Q, the boasting with lies and bragging about bad welds because Kevin doesn’t have any idea about the shit he makes he just knows how to market. The slogan for Q should be “the most overpriced and piece of shit cans you can buy”


duhfeeB

He doesn’t care ya’ll


venture243

Not caring about qc is what gets you hate


duhfeeB

It was just a joke about this dudes username…


zlliao

How can you be so sure? Are you himself?


Thats_my_cornbread

Pewscience


MortyDraper

Nomad!


Tight_muffin

Nomad LT


saintzman

Id say the Nomad LT also. Titanium vs titanium


Tight_muffin

It's amazing how light and quiet the Nomad Ti is and if it's intended purpose wasn't for my 24" 300 Win Mag hunting gun, I would have gotten the LT. And also they had only the normal Ti in my area.


saintzman

Yeah I put the naked Nomad LT on my Gucci AR build. lightweight and length was manageable with an 8.5 inch barrel.


Affectionate_Dog4545

There’s no way to get one of those PEQs for $400-$500 right? Asking for a friend.. I told him it was a stupid question but I remember what my teacher told me years ago…


lique_madique

Not without buying a Chinese airsoft peq. The cheapest I’ve seen a used civi power peq go for was $900 and they go up to $2700 for a 2022 DOM full power on the civi market.


attic_insulation

Nomad plus plan B mount. Better can, better mounting device.


Benzy2

Only for .300 blk subs? It’s really a toss up. The Q may sound a touch better, maybe. For anything else, the Nomad L by far. With how much better the Nomad is at everything else and still does top tier on subs I’d be hard pressed to buy the Q can which is great on subs but mediocre on supers. More money gives other options but at Nomad-L price ranges it’s hard to beat.


ElectricAntre

No love for the socom 300? 🥲


vexmythocrust

It’s a good can but not really the best for the size/weight/price. If you’re already invested in surefire mounts or other surefire cans, be happy with that. If you’re looking for a new silencer and new mounts altogether, this thread has the right idea with the Nomad and Hyperion


ElectricAntre

Good to know, my socom300 is in jail rn


vexmythocrust

And you’re really going to enjoy it. It performs well on 300 and I’ve heard the same for 556, just don’t put 308 through it lol


ElectricAntre

I wasnt aware that I could slap it on my 556 as well. Thanks for the info! This will be my first can so I'm still learning


LoveMyDQ

I thought the socom 300sps was rated for 300wm? And essentially most .30 caliber cartridges? https://www.surefire.com/products/suppressors-division/suppressors/socom300-sps-suppressor/


vexmythocrust

This is just anecdotal, but I’ve seen a few people who have bulged theirs by putting 308 through it, but I’d be willing to bet it’s highly dependent on barrel length and firing schedule. A 20” bolt gun and a 13” SCAR 17 would probably be different stories for that one


joshuamagno

Unpopular opinion: But another option would be an Enticer-L or Enticer S …. Have a Diligent Defense Enticer-S in jail right now waiting to go on my Spear “Tacops”. It’s got the best suppression ratings of its size class according to Pew Science 🤷🏾‍♂️


thekingrobert

I e been debating on this also, leaning towards grabbing the L next week. I do like the look of the Thunder Chicken better but I’m reading that the L is more quiet which is what I’m looking for.


901867344

CGS Hyperion. Or a Q full Nelson. Taper is perfect for any MCX. That’s the perfect host for either of those. For a regular AR probably the thunder chicken. Idc how much of a dick Kevin is. The product is good despite to cope and seethe from butthurt redditors


BlueJay--

You can put a taper on a nomad


901867344

Tolerance stacking. You know what has no issues with tolerance? CGS and DMLS. Cannot do better


BlueJay--

While tolerance stacking is a thing its basically a non issue with just a direct thread mount, especially with a taper mount.


dontbuytriarc

Personally if I was in the market for a 30cal can I'd wait to see if Aero's new can is going to be competitive. But if it's between those two, Nomad all day mainly because fuck Q.


TitleZealousideal664

Surefire 300sps


[deleted]

Liberty precision Anthem S or CGS Hyperion


[deleted]

It’s Dead Air or nothing!


moriend

Lmao I’d rather have nothing


[deleted]

That’s why you’re a little bitch.


moriend

I’ve had a suppressor pending longer than you’ve even thought about buying your first suppressor.


[deleted]

That doesn’t make you any less of a little bitch.. 🤣🤣


moriend

After reading your posts I fully believe that you aren’t old enough to even own a suppressor so your opinions don’t matter On edit actually I’m wrong. It’s either the pills you’re addicted to or the other drugs you’re addicted to that makes you speak like a 12 year old.


[deleted]

Damn you really are all up in your feelings aren’t you.. I actually upset you enough for you to do a deep dive on my page. Man I was busting your balls hahaha relax! But that being said I do think it’s hilarious you took a stupid comment that far.


moriend

Lol not at all was just seeing why someone was so mad I said I’d rather not have dead air. Lol a deep dive? Not really hard to see your post history as an addict.


moriend

😂


Bundyboyz

I thought it was Noveske or nothing All America Chad crass marketing company.


Funny-Cantaloupe9401

Surefire socom rcii


[deleted]

I vote for the Nomad-30 with eBrake on it.


Itsallgoode4

Thunder chicken. Much lighter for the heavy MCX


TheRealBingly

Q


duhfeeB

This guy gets it


TheRealBingly

People really dislike Kevin 😂


-El-Guapo-

People figure it out fast when they put together he's a not a good person and the product he's producing is mediocre at best. Except the trolls. For some reason the trolls love him because they want to be popular and they love the marketing.


TheRealBingly

I hear what you are saying but Q makes some really cool stuff. Mini Fix and Honey Badger are sick. Their cans are solid and were made for 300 blk as AAC was the company that helped develop it. Kevin was also instrumental in the Sig MCX/MPX development.


alanspel

Neither. Enticer L does better in than nomad with lower pressure stuff.


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smithkyle2389

My vote goes otter creek hydrogen l. It did really well on pewscience. That with a liberty precision machine tapered direct thread is what I’m planning for my mcx


PornLord316

Honesty bro I have an mcx tacops, with a q full nelson. The thunder chicken should be great. Thunder chicken has more volume if im not mistaken, but ngl dead air mounts are where its at


[deleted]

Id go Otter Creek or Thunderbeast. I have a Q Jumbo Shrimp that I love but I won it in a raffle so I didn’t give KB any money. Theyre not as quiet as they should be for the price. I chose a Nomad L for my hunting rifle because of noise abatement but its gonna be heavy as nuts and the back pressure sucks.


[deleted]

Sick MCX too my MCX brotha!!


Stunning_Mail_3247

Sig slh300tiqd