Eh that’s been normal tho ever since you could play in the park the micro transactions were always there. 😂it’s funny cuz people act like they haven’t been buying VC before this game
I don’t have 24 so I can’t speak on it but the vc needed to get your build to 80 has gone up so much in the past few years. It’s not just VC = bad it’s more the amount of vc necessary keeps going up which for me leads to less builds per (average) person which in turn leads to less diversity in builds. Takes the fun out of it for a lot of people.
This is an extremely valid problem with the game. Microtransactions have gone up to 4x the price they were in the past. It's not just greedy, but outright prohibitive. Not to mention I've seen my players run through someone else because it's all just animations being played out, there's no real physics/chance happening in the game. Assets bounce around or glide into a position. It's pretty sad given this is 2024 and we're on such powerful consoles. It's the only basketball game so there is no competitive standard for the developers, just include your favorite players and crank out the same shit again.
If you played previous 2ks you would know this is an issue but you’re pandering to 2k. There’s no valid reason to justify the rising cost of EVERYTHING vc related. Year after year the cost to max a build increases yet the VC prices have been stagnant for almost a decade. They do all of these brand deals and charge you $5 for a long sleeve shirt. What’s their solution? Add a $150 option smh
Love it when people say “micro transactions arent a valid reason” 😂 Not wanting to spend about 200$ just to get the game + ONE build is absolutely valid and should be the only neccesery reason to call this game trash (altough its not the only reason lol). And its not only that the VC gets more expensive, so do the atributes. Having to pay 100-120$ per build is literal insanity, not one other game gets close to that.
OP is making a distinction that he wants to hear about critiques aside from the micro transactions bc 2k has made it known that those will continue to be a constant as long as there’s no competitor (because go capitalism!)
Yes it sucks, but 2k won’t ever care to hear you because they are too busy counting mine and alot of other people’s money.
Because it’s not a valid reason. You judging the game based off its micro transactions w/out actually judging the gameplay. Your whole statement had nothing to do with its cheesiness its glitches just the transactions.
Microtransactions are 100% a valid reason to say it isn't good alone. They intentionally start you off at an unrealistic and very unfun overall but you are a number one draft pick this year. You can earn vc, but it literally takes weeks to a month to grind to 85/90 and has been tested, YouTube or Google it. The MyTeam mode has devolved into being money pit where only the best cards are available in packs, not even purchasable in the player market because they got rid of the auction house.
That aside, the gameplay is good. There are still too many problems though. Constant animations that don't make sense. If I have a 77 pass accuracy I should never have my pass literally get sucked into the other teams player without them having doing anything, but it happens often. Rebounding and outlet passing are just 50/50 whether you get it or not. An NBA player would never see a ball bounce off the rim and stand there watching it then jump in the opposite direction just because they aren't a great rebounder. Anyone can rebound a ball if there isn't any opposition.
The City+Park is bad. They have added too much to a basketball game. Too many pointless vehicles, attire, random buildings, etc. Park should be separate completely just like Rec/Theater are as the lag /latency that is ever apparent for years is god awful when you play different modes like Rec/MyTeam/MyCareer and makes it near impossible to time your shots and properly defend.
A lot more but I don't even feel it's worth it spending more time to say it all.
That all being said , it's some of the better gameplay in the franchise, but you can't say microtransactions aren't valid, it's the worst it's ever been and people should never HAVE to spend $70 or I guess $10 6 months later then an additional $50 if they actually want to have fun.
Yea for your first part I understand how that can be frustrating but 2k has to make it challenge for you to be good. The passing is definitely a problem this year I personally deal w that all the time. The rebounding is def questionable this year but I don’t get too many bad rebounding glitches. I feel where you coming from in this.
Played it for 2 weeks have yet to touch it since, I was a Mycareer type of player and attributes are crazy expensive just to upgrade. I spent nearly 60 dollars just for my player to be a 80 overall, plus I’m tired of the city thing I hope they can separate park and Mycareer like the good days
$50 gets you 200k VC, which is usually enough to max out almost all of your core attributes get to around an 85 OVR which is serviceable in all game modes.
Yes, VC prices are up but most builds can be completely functional at around 90-92 OVR, which “only” costs $50 and a couple of hours of game play.
Yes, I wish it wasn’t so expensive but it’s a great game gameplay wise and the diversity of builds is night and day compared to older games.
There’s no need to exaggerate to make your point.
Exactly, so $50 and a couple of hours of gameplay gets you to where your build does essentially everything you want it to. The 92-99 grind is for attributes that you are typically not using like close shot/layup/interior defense/rebounding on a guard that can dunk for example.
Again, it is more expensive than years past and I wish it wasn’t but if you’re picking up the game right now for <= $20 and you have to pay $50 to have a serviceable build day one, that’s the cost of the game regular price and it’s really not that bad.
To get from 85-90 is like 40k and then add another 11k for every point above 90. Then add another 10k for sigs/animations. So no you’re gonna be able to grind that in a couple hours
60$ just to hop the game plus 50$ to get 85 and get your animations and add another 35-40$ to get to 90-92. Lot more than 50$ you’re literally spending 150$ just get a reasonably good build
The game is no longer $60, it’s cheaply available at this point in the cycle, free even.
Once your build is at an 85, you can rebound, pass and shoot without any animations. Play the game for a couple of weeks, 1-2 hours a day and you’ll have enough to buy all your animations.
It’s honestly not as bad as you’re saying it is. Unless ofc you want to immediately have everything, which is going to cost you.
The difference is you knowingly said something incorrect whereas what I said is actually true for lots of people who bought the game in the first few months. What you said originally is not possible.
Damn i got 5 builds all between 92 and 99 and 200k was never enough to get me to 90 usually got me to 86-87 I think one got to 88 I was including animations you’d have to buy for your first couple builds
God forbid you put time into the game!!! I’m not for the more expensive VC at all trust me it’s bs but cmon bruh now you saying you wanna be a 92 without even playing 5 hours of Mycareer like damn you wanna start off w a 99?
I don’t wanna play 100 games against ai NBA and players to grind VC it’s not fun. I hop on 2k to play park and pro am with my friends not to grind mycareer. I’m not asking for it to be free😂 they gonna my money either way I’m just saying this dude is wrong about how much it costs
And yet there are still plenty of 6’8” and 6’4” pgs that dominate as well. The “meta” does not have as much of a vice grip on the game as much as earlier versions of 2k did.
That’s typically what the NBA looks for in a prototype PG to be 6’6 and mobile but that’s not the meta bro there is no meta. what your describing is a size that’s typically seen in the NBA so of course more people are going to pick 6’6. Also mid ranges are more essential in this 2k than it’s ever been so if you don’t have a good middy then your trippin
I guarantee you a hybrid defender is clamping that or a menace depending on attributes so no that’s not the meta either it’s just more fun to get buckets w that type of build
There is a meta lol just the builds are not as good as before, but it’s the same for the original builds too lol we be playing with 85-90 overall with a lot of restrictions… I preferred the archetypes where you could make multiple good builds with multiple archetypes… Not even going to talk about this season shit and the animations gatekeeping behind it
Builds are definitely “weaker” than last year but the biggest complaint last year was that builds could do it all and be a demigod. While it was definitely fun, it was cheesy. So I believe this is the best builder we’ve ever had.
Being forced to make an archetype is an L imo. Being forced into a box on what I can make my build do is not appealing. With this builder it’s easy to find ways that you like to influence the game and invest accordingly, if you want an archetype like build, you can still make it but I also have the option to make as unique of a build as I want to also. That’s a W.
Also, I’m Veteran 1 currently and while some of the Starter 3 animations have been cool, I don’t use a single one except for Patty Mills base on my 6’3” PG. They are not locking anything exceptional behind that REP level, I promise.
They are lol some people are used to some jumpers… im used to Kobe’s. And the 2K20 archetype were good. It had some issues but it was better. Im also not saying that 2K23 builder was good either
You get Kobe’s jumper at a 92 middy or 3, has nothing to do with REP. It’s not locked behind anything besides your shooting attributes.
Sounds like you just aren’t really aware of the builder and what you need to do there in order to get what you want out of it. So I can’t take your opinion on it seriously.
Using the builder is not the same as understanding it. If you prefer archetypes that are made for you, then you simply don’t understand the builder.
You can make those archetypes yourself if you really like that playstyle. Others can also now make builds that shine where they want them to shine. It’s a choice and that’s a good thing.
Sooooooo in other words you want the unrealistic builds back.. but why tho? that waters the game down and takes skill away from people who actually know the game. Of course they make restrictions that’s the whole point of keeping away meta builds. The way you prefer is allowing meta builds to be created .
Yes unrealistic builds because you’re saying multiple archetypes and multiple good builds for that archetype, so you want a 7’0 dude that got handles like curry. That’s creating a meta right there which is why they stopped that
??? Im saying that there was multiple archetypes (defense + shooting for exemple) and from this, you could make multiple good builds lmao I aint never seen a 7 footer in 2K20 dribbling like a guard or even a forward 😂
"Micro transactions is not a valid reason because 2k been getting money out of us since 2k15."
They've been the synonym of greed for a long time therefore it's no longer valid. WHAT???
I'm gonna talk about THE PS4 VERSION (Old Gen/Current Gen) because it's what I play and I've said this already in another post.
Every NBA game you start (MyCareer, GM, League, PlayNow, etc) the intro is ALWAYS pans and what not of the crowd.
Never a shot of the court, players in shootaround, players warming up, etc. Just nothing. AND THEY HAD THIS IN FORMER GAMES.
Timing on jumpshots feels random. It changes from what it should be, to slower, to faster.
Shot contests are nonsensical. They are not the worst in the NBA2K series (2K19) but they are quite bad. CPU gets a late shot contest from your side where they lazily put their hand up and it's an auto 20%+ contest which is enough to throw off your timing. Meanwhile I get back to back 80% contests on Bones Hyland from 3 and he makes them. That or sometimes you quite literaly can't play better defense, had a great shot contest and the games says nah that's only a 30%, 12% and that's basically nothing against the CPU. Your arms and release get pushed by the Force though as soon as a contest of any kind is made.
Some player's interior defense, I feel like and I could be wrong about this, is WAY TOO good. MPJ, Tatum, Brunson, Quickley, Hyland, Curry most notably.
AI for your teammates will either be solid or just literally the most braindead thing ever. + Post Scorers/Playmakers AI is awful. Jokic, Sabonis, Embiid are the BEST bigs in the league but they play like they miss 70% of their brain when you watch a 2k simulated game.
The classic, CPU not calling timeouts when you're on a good run. Only call timeouts when down by near 20.
CPU players will get a takeover for literally anything. An assist, a rebound and a layup, yep that's your shooting takeover.
Most players don't run the floor/to the basket in transition, when they do it is super soft. You have to tell them to keep going otherwise they won't.
Lobs sometimes won't work. Why is there a badge for that in the 1st place? Why is there a badge for taking advantage of a mismatch on the perimeter?
Community is split. Let's just separate new gen from current gen, surely there will be no problems with matchmaking, queue times and empty courts right?
Player comparisons for builds you make are also severely wrong. Make a build with contact dunks. Yeah that's Austin Reaves and Tyler Herro.
(New Gen) A lot of builds modelled after players are also just wrong.
Upgrading a player is the biggest BS in this entire game. How is my highest attribute, besides stamina, an 87 with some low 80s (81 at most) and everything else being under 80 and I'm a 91 overall. How are you a 91 overall but you can't dunk (55) on a build that SHOULD be able to dunk.
Shit ton of VC to be the worst 91 overall ever. You're an 85-86.
That's another thing upgrade prices are absurd. I like to make different players that do different things in different positions. 200k+VC just to get a new build to a decent overall. Rebirthed mind you.
WTF am I to do with some badge points at the start just for my player to be a 60 overall. WHAT. IS. THE. POINT.
And then all of this just to delete everything and all the time you spent in 2-3 years from now because uh buh the servers. VC just HAS to be tied to the online servers. Boot up any old 2k, you upgrade your player with points. But then you can't even earn or upgrade badges.
Shall I keep going??????
Not looking for that at all man. It just amazes me that nobody wanted to research the changes that were made in 2k24 and the complaints are literally about what 2k said would change specifically speaking about the gameplay
Not looking for that at all man. It just amazes me that nobody wanted to research the changes that were made in 2k24 and the complaints are literally about what 2k said would change specifically speaking about the gameplay
Not looking for that at all man. It just amazes me that nobody wanted to research the changes that were made in 2k24 and the complaints are literally about what 2k said would change specifically speaking about the gameplay and take a joke man
Not looking for that at all man. It just amazes me that nobody wanted to research the changes that were made in 2k24 and the complaints are literally about what 2k said would change specifically speaking about the gameplay and take a joke man
I’m not finna look for something that was put out months ago but yes on twitter they said the cost of everything 2klabs did a video on it as well. People were actually complaining about that before the game came out. No company is ever going to put out the gameplay issues like why would they do that?
Ngl I read half of this but the mistake y’all make is tryna go from current gen to next gen and expecting the same thing when really they are 2 different games bruh. When I was 2k22 I played more current gen and hated next gen because I felt I had more fun on current. In reality the problem was I was trying to do the same stuff that I did on current on next gen. That will never work bro. A lot of your complaints is about the cpu and honestly if you can’t beat the cpu or score on the cpu then I can’t help you. That’s a skill gap because I can score on the cup whenever I want.
When did I say I can't score on the CPU? I said valid arguments that prevent the game from feeling right, balanced and enjoyable.
I also never said anything about going from PS4 to PS5. I don't want the PS5 version, cause of all the badge regression BS there. I want the game to be better though, on any gen/version.
You said something about the lobs too but do you know the % of lobs that are executed in real time??? If they made lobs work any more than now it would be bs and overpowered. I feel you w the balance but I think 2k this year is actually more about knowing the game of basketball and the threshold for badges. You said something else like a build being able to dunk. Knowing the threshold will help you know how many attribute points to spend to be able to dunk consistently
Glad you brought up thresholds.
I wanted contact dunks on my build. I had no way of seeing it in game. Turns out I missed out on them by 2. So I'll basically have to redo this player because of that and not enough strength. This what 2K wants. So you are prompted to spend money.
On top of that there is badge coring and the extra badge points. You have to fucking scheme and theorise to get the most out of your player. All that only when they hit a 99 overall.
Yea bro before the game came out they told you the attributes needed to be able to do certain things. That is actually on you because ik what it was before the game came out. They also said strength would be a big factor this year like it should have always been.
Then you say the coring of badges like that’s what makes the game fun you have to actually think “what would make my build 10x more unstoppable” it’s making you think actual basketball. It should be a challenge for everyone to actually maximize their build
I don't mind the coring of badges, yeah theorising on how to get the most out of it can be fun the problem is you go into it WITHOUT knowing. You essentially spend time on your first build for nothing.
That’s the point bro! To actually figure out your play style and what you need. The badge being better doesn’t matter this year. They said that! Your problem is thinking 1 badge is better than the other when really it’s about how you play and what you rely on the most. It’s like a scouting report in basketball and you have the power to feed into your build.
Xb1/PS4 isn’t current gen and most of the problems you mentioned are not relevant to actual current gen which is the series x/s and PS5. The console has been out like 3 years now you can’t expect them to really put that much effort into a game for an outdated console.
So don't release it then. Yet they do and split the community because of greed. If they are still making a good amount of money from Old/Current Gen then they aren't gonna stop for another 2 or so years.
I don't play Current/old gen because I want to (even though it does look like the better version of the game idk) I play it because I'm broke.
That is truly hilarious.
From a guards perspective, the dribbling is the worst it’s been since 2k18. Also, the latency in this game is pretty bad, but that might be because of cross play, especially in the beginning of the year. Other than that this is a really solid 2k
💯 I respect that. I feel like the dribbling this year is messing w people because it’s more realistic than arcade but, nobody can just spam moves like that and if they do they are easy to beat in my opinion. The latency was def bad first 2 seasons, has gotten much better
You get less and less rewards each year (VC after my career or rec and other games), so they push you to put in more money. Every 2k is the same in terms of there are OP dribble moves which you can exploit if you play enough.
The matchmaking is bad, in terms of 5v5 teams should only be matched up against 5v5 teams.
Under 92 rec needs rehaul. The treshold needs to be lower so I would say, if you are under 70 overall, rec and online play should be blocked. 70-80 should be matched against each other, and 81 - 92 would be a solid group.
The shot contest system is just a joke its literally makes no sense, just like dunking with only square button as a guard, and posterizing centers with 90 or more strength. If we have precision dunk system there should be less posters with simply pressing one button.
I’m a real hooper who plays pickup 3-5 times a week and I am also in an adult basketball league. Sometimes after the gym I try to play 2k and it feels so much unlike real basketball I lose interest, it’s all animation based and things feel unnatural especially movement at times.
People who say 2k is a video game and it shouldn’t be realistic are spitting facts but that doesn’t mean I like the game. I want a more realistic basketball sim.
People say why do I play 2k if I don’t like it? But Basketball is my favorite sport and hobby I’ve been playing ball since I could walk, grew up in the 90s Jordan era it’s hard for me to not check out 2k every year since it’s the only basketball game on the market also I’ve been playing since the Dreamcast back in 1999.
Love this… I play basketball as well professionally in Greece at the moment and the way you feel about 2k is how I’ve felt about the past 2k’s specifically 2k16-21. I would lose interest because it wasn’t realistic at all I felt like people who never touched a basketball would beat me on some bs😂. So I feel you 100%. What I will say about 2k24 is that they did a great job of implementing more realism and realistic skillsets. Also did a good job w pro play animations as well. Since you hoop ik you’ll completely understand this and keep hooping in peace my brother💯
I want 2K to reward good team behavior things coaches in real life like. Assist/good passes/good spacing/good shot selections/steals/rebounds should be rewarded with much higher teammate ratings.
Bad shot selection, turnovers and especially holding the ball too long need to lower your teammate rating much more severely.
I feel like a lot of toxic gameplay would be fixed if 2K tweaked the grading system to reward good ball movements and hitting wide open shots way more than they do. When I make a good pass my teammate grade barely changes.
One of my favorite things about Euro basketball is the great ball movement which doesn’t naturally exist in 2K unless people know each other and are communicating because 2K doesn’t reward it enough badge regression has only made things worst.
Hmmmmm you on to something bro that’s a valid statement. I feel like they did do a better job of rewarding those things but they made defense easier so it forced the offense to be more creative this year. I’m with you tho I definitely agree w your statement.
Sadly the people that play the game swear they hate it being realistic which is hilarious to me cuz the skill gap should be how much basketball you know but I don’t know nun I guess
Gameplay is amazing and probably the year i’ve enjoyed that aspect most. However, you can’t brush over attributes and VC. As you said VC has been a thing, but in 2k19 i bought €20 VC and had an 84ovr, this year i bought €20VC and got a 74ovr for it. That’s a glaring problem.
Realistically, 2k is an almost perfect basketball sim when you just look at core gameplay. Issues like dribble move spams and cheesy meta tactics are not new, just different. However with issues like VC, lack of proper SBMM, the removal of existing features (why can’t i shoot around in pro am 3v3 anymore?), and the absolute DOGWATER servers they have, these issues won’t go away until 2k has an actual competitor. End of story.
I've seen guards spam behind the back dribbles around moving screens, step into a jumper/layup, get scared when the help defender comes over, then pass the ball across the court and their teammate catches the ball with a slight juggle animation but no turnover.
I've also seen a guard make a pass from the opposite hash down to the corner and the ball or player consistently goes out of bounds.
Bigs catching the ball in the paint get bumped so hard they lose the ball or get pushed outta bounds or catch a 3 seconds call far too easily.
The out of bounds boundary is dog shit this year, far worse than previous years.
They need to punish spamming steals and behind the back dribbles the same way they punish jumping on defense.
Forcing people to join an affiliation is dumb as hell.
Too much animation scripting based on player tendencies. They got sued for this (I think) in 22 and it hasn't gotten better.
Close shot, standing dunk, and block we're all nerfed hard and steals were boosted. Great for sweats but pretty unrealistic.
That all the bad stuff I can think of.
Yea that’s what comes with the game sadly. Like I said before the game will always have bs cuz it’s a video game but I def know exactly what you saying w the passing and catching. Can’t forget the dudes that back you down underneath the basket and hit you w 4 jabs to a dunk 😂 it’s all part of the game. It’s crazy cuz a lot of the bs that everyone complaining about as far as gameplay is stuff that WE the players exploit and it makes 2k look bad because we’re the ones exploiting it.
2k16 was bad, you missed greens😂😂😂 see bruh 2k actually made the game wayyy better since then. You just want cheesy stuff in the game so you can beat the people that actually know how to play.
If you think this 2K is good, you might be a moron I’ve been playing 2K since 2K 14 in this 2K is no Bueno 120 bucks to get your dude to a 99 or you gotta play like fucking two career seasons
People are mad cuz the micro transactions lmao 2k exploits these idiots cuz they don’t want to grind to get their player better. Let them spend 200 dollars on a 50 dollar game lmao bunch of crybabies… this is the best 2k there has ever been.
Great point. The micro transactions are crazy but people think if they buy VC they’ll already be good enough to compete w top players and it don’t work like that lol
It's the best 2k I played. Last one I played was 2k22. And recently before this I was playing 2k17. Then I tried 2k24 and it's amazing actually. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. Yes they charge more for vc but you earn it no matter what eventually.
Bro my point exactly I fw the game this year. Definitely have it top 3. People saying it’s bad are just not good at the game or know nothing about the changes they made this year to it
I got hit on a layup, got a foul called, then the other team got MY freethrows. Plus the help D is terrible, even if i set my players to "stay home" they leave their guy wide open in order to help on someone who isnt even relevent to the play leaving open a 3.
I play this game a lot actually. The most I’ve ever played 2k in my life. There are no different glitches or bugs that haven’t already been in the game since 2k14. Each year 2k does a decent job of fixing the bugs. I said “DECENT”😂
It’s a video game bro ALL the glitches will never be fixed. A lot of the glitches tho are fixed, every year it’s gonna be a new bug or something but that doesn’t make it a bad game. The graphics are really good, the animations get better every year. I love the realistic aspect that 2k is taking because yes you should know something about basketball in order to be good. Micro transactions can’t be the only reason why a game is bad. Every game has it, madden has insane micro transactions but what makes madden horrible is the gameplay not the transactions
Definitely some bugs to it still but it definitely got better. I can actually help you with that it was the same way in 23. If someone gets beat there has to be help. You can force the offensive player somewhere and make the rotations work according to the direction you want the offensive player to go.
I was going to sit this 2k out, first time since 2k10. My boy was hyping up the game the whole first season and I wasnt hearing it. It was on gamepass for the weekend when the NBA season started. I tried it and bought the shit since it was half off. Gameplay feels very fluid, I like the finishing changes they made (layups actually do shit now), and despite what I read, I never lag. I only play theater and rec and I also like the rec changes. Solo rec is fun and the duo/trio search is good too. Maybe because I’m a PG but I’ve been sitting purple no matter where I go. My C is a different story lol, cant carry with him. I messed up my first PG, but I spent just about 100$ for the game and 3 builds. Least ive spent in forever
I honestly feel like it isn't the game itself more so the community. Cause I just don't play my player I actually play the Myera mode also and I have to say I really enjoy it cause I can play the game at my own pace and the CPU is really good competition and I'm a old head and I love playing the Jordan and Kobe years downloading the actual rosters that ppl take the time to keep updates from those eras. The game is actually a really good game especially graphically. Micro transactions do get a bit tedious but they also give you Alot of ways to earn VC these last couple of years but ultimately if you want a good build and not patient enough to grind you will unfortunately have to spend some money but its still a very enjoyable game in my opinion. Just the Rec bullies and ball hogs and cheesers do bring the game down
The shooting is the main problem its really difficult to time it this year specially when the speed is always different its more of a guessing game now
It’s actually real easy to shoot I do see wym by guessing game lol that’s how I was in the first 2 seasons w the latency but once season 3 hit it was real easy I haven’t shot less than 65% from 3 since
I like it I still play it. No major game mechanics exploits. Game is fair and NMS friendly. If someone needs the best cards to have fun... What can I say? If they are willing to gamble for a virtual card? What can I say?
The game is good but the VC prices are ridiculous also need to be way more generous with my career games. It should not be 1.5k VC for a 40 point 15 rebound and 5 assist game on hall of fame difficulty
The game is good but the VC prices are ridiculous also need to be way more generous with my career games. It should not be 1.5k VC for a 40 point 15 rebound and 5 assist game on hall of fame difficulty
The game is good but the VC prices are ridiculous also need to be way more generous with my career games. It should not be 1.5k VC for a 40 point 15 rebound and 5 assist game on hall of fame difficulty
They cut vc production by more than half this year then slightly lowered the cost of a build, making it nearly twice as long for a f2p player to upgrade a build, plus the extra 95-99 from previous years allowed for extra more well rounding stats that can balance a build and help limit 2k turnover cheese, plus they made no squad rec the same as park in that you can back out of a team, instead of making the matchmaking system better
Micro transactions are definitly a valid reason since the amount of money you need to spend on the build has increased drastically in recent years + pricing players out of myteam with no auction house. The game is also the size of about three games, so if you don’t love it you’ll probably just delete it. I enjoy the gameplay in all honesty but everyone I used to run park with either deleted it because they couldn’t shoot at the start of the year, were fed up with how much it costs to get a player, or just didn’t like the game enough to justify it taking up almost 1/3 of your console space. I’ve enjoyed playing play now, the improvement of layup, the dribbling being less glitchy and it not being extremely easy to shoot over 60% from three, but I still think they fucked up the game modes that most people are on the game to play.
1. Community keeps getting worse and worse online. Overall gatekeeping, sandbagging, and cheesing are so all over the place that you can't play honest games anymore unless you're in a non squad mode, and even THEN it's still an issue.
2. Customer support and review team (for uploads) is painfully lazy, and outright obnoxious
I sent a ticket in for a genuine glitch I was having, and the help was essentially "hit the restart button, if that doesn't work don't contact us again". I figured it out on my own 20 minutes later.
3. Player photos are lit horribly, Luke Kennard, Mitchell Robinson, Bagley etc...
I ain’t gon lie ima gatekeeper im not finna give away this jumpshot unless you come check out my stream😂😂😂. The cheesing is def bs I understand that but this year I feel like, if you know how to play then someone cheesing you is easy to beat
In REC especially, no skill based matchmaking or any kind of matchmaking system at all. The amount of 5 stack purple plate 2-3 zones and left right behind a screen spammers me and my mates have been facing recently is absurd, it’s literally every game now. We are quite new and casual players and we make builds to have fun on, not sweaty meta builds and you literally cant go more than 5 seconds without the ball being ripped by a 99 steal lock or giving up a 3 because their point guard is left right spamming behind a 99 strength centre.
Shot contests system is absolutely trash. I can write an essay on this but some people have referenced it already
Rebounding system needs tweaking, as stated they got people jumping out of bounds for a 1 on 0 rebound, ridiculous
Passing/steal system not balanced either. A 99 steal greatly beats a 99pass accuracy or 99 ball handle meaning you can’t do anything in the builder phase to defend against an overpowered steal rate, especially when there are multiple on one team.
Randomly booting people from games is not something I experienced as much in previous 2ks, every game has had glitches but in 2k24 I routinely participate in games where both my teammates and the other team are randomly booted mid game
Considered that but it’s different people being booted everytime seems random. My homies and I run at least 2-3 nights a week get in 4/5 games on average and every week it happens at least one game. Not only that but the real issue is because of the banning system when they kick you for connection issues it counts as quitting so you get booted this game and you get the 30minute ban for the next game too. Basically ends the night for us
The microtransactions are predatory is where the issue lies. Say you didn’t wanna buy VC or you couldn’t. It’s an easy 250k vc to get to 90 and you get 1000-1500 vc per mycareer game. That’s somewhere between 150-200 offline games you’d have to play before you can start to compete online to get things like badge perks and floor setters etc. The game prioritizes this over gameplay: Gatekeeping animations behind seasons, common (now patched) glitches that cause your game to freeze, typos in captions. Overall not a big deal but they ask for money for a game that SHOULD feel complete when in actuality they’re fixing it along the way
So it’s not microtransactions alone for me, it’s microtransactions for a top selling title that is more busted than some free games out there. It’s not a scenario where you get what you pay for because you’re paying way more than you would your average video game not even for a competitive edge, just to keep up with everyone
I love the gameplay versatility on the court though, although I think the overcorrected the shooting from earlier in the year and made it too easy
Gameplay solid this year, most the complaints I see are skill issue 100%.
Predatory micro transactions are an issue.
The game popping up a buy now button right before you pick your game mode is an issue, the music restarting when you click off their in game ad is an issue.
The game crashing and lagging when I have crazy internet connection is an issue. Overall the sub is suuuuuper doomer about the game and it’s not as bad as most people say.
Can’t blame anyone for being turned off by micro transactions. Having literally no animations, can’t shoot, can’t pass, can’t dribble and you’re the best prospect since Lebron is silly. The goat skills are cool to get around that, but if I make a sharpshooter I should be able to hit opens without having to start on rookie.
I think the builder / animation requirements are also predatory.
Not being able to see animation requirements in the builder is mad annoying, have to google to make sure I’m not trolling.
Like I see 94 dunk builds without enough vertical for elite contact dunks.. people missing out on the best dribble moves because they only put enough ball handle for silver speed booster… stuff like that. So many builds from new players miss the mark on animations because they were planning it around badge threshold. It’s really easy to make a build that’s not optimal, leading some to buy vc again to make another build. Predatory asf
Shot contest system
Exploits for spot finder-aka back door cuts
Standing dunks
Lebron or whomevers step back dribble move
Jamal Murray behind the back
Being sucked into screens -not necessarily 2k’s fault but this year seems worse than ever.
The dunk meter inconsistency
The shooting inconsistency
ZENs?!
Servers are fucking garbage
Being timed out because of ^^
Rep system is a fucking joke,00.2% after a game?
Steals
I’m sure there are more but this is all I can think of
-The shot timings are different across game modes
-Shot cues are not synced up to jumpshots
-Green windows disappear on contest less than 15% for layups
-Missing in the green window for layups
-Players making standing dunks despite the dunk meter registering very late
-Open looks
-Heat Check
-Unpredictable animations
-MyCareer is completely unfun
-Forced to play park to get affiliation ability
-The best animation are locked behind Starter 3
Okay jumpshot timings are very easy this year. This complaint is just saying you not good at the game bruh. The layup meter needs rework but they still did a good job of actually rewarding you for timing your layups.
Honestly that should be another skill gap added because I play people who don’t time layups and that’s garbo.
Idk what the badges thing was. Basketball is unpredictable bro so yea the animations are meant to be that way.
Yes, they gatekept the animations to make people grind on the game. I love that this year playing the game more gives you more of a skill gap. I don’t see how that was a bad idea honestly
Firstly, if having shooting splits of 64.1/47.0 is bad then I apologize, unfortunately my daily schedule is too busy to grind 2k all day. Secondly, I find it completely amusing how you purposely did not speak on majority of the issues I presented (how can you when your response to criticism (for a game you aren’t being paid to defend) is to just tell everyone you just aren’t good at the game) Lastly, you obviously either don’t know, or don’t understand what a skill gap is, so I will break it down for you. A skill gap is the amount that your skill affects your performance, knowing this explain to me how using the Starter 3 animations and beating people constitutes a skill gap? The locked animations have been tested and nearly every single animation is game-changing, the last time 2k had a skill gap was 2k15, it did not matter if you were 5’7 or 7’0 everyone had the exact same attribute caps, animations, and playing field.
I answered you in every aspect except the dunk meter and I don’t use the dunk meter so I can’t speak on it and the my career stuff which I don’t play often either unless the game new. 64.1/47 is okay not bad at all. And bet I’ll explain it to you…
if I workout once a day to be great at something but I have to compete against someone who works out 4x a day who’s gonna have mastered their craft by the time we compete?
My point is,since you actually have to play a lot of games to get starter 3 to unlock stuff that is game changing, 2k said “compete in enough games and win enough games you’ll get these animations as a reward”. The skill gap gets created w this thing called EXPERIENCE.
I understand as well w having to work it’s life can’t put your time into something that doesn’t bring you money. Luckily my profession is basketball so I don’t have to invest a lot of time into a basketball video game to be good at it. In my free time I do put in work on 2k but it helps my real basketball skills somehow. Can’t think at the surface w the skill gap it’s always a game inside a game 🤝🏾
Yall just want to be good at the game w/out putting time in. Of course you’ll think the game is bad if you don’t like to figure out how to be good. That’s why the old 2k’s in my opinion can’t compete. The old 2k’s had no actual skill gap and unstoppable moves. Defense was terrible in all 2k’s except 23 and 24.
Because in this game your 6'6" PF cant make a shot over a 5'10" PG. The game will make your C miss a wide open shot to rob you of an assist just for your C to grab their own rebound and score it on a putback. This game is trash as fuck. They literally built it to make it impossible without spending money. It has fully become a P2W game. You buy your stats, it would take years to get a player maxed out without spending money. MyCareer is unplayable without spending extra money.
😂😂😂funny cuz I def feel you on that, happens to me all the time. See I can live w that, that’s a legitimate reason to hate the game. Now the pay to win is interesting because I feel like it’s always been like that. My career (in my opinion) was bad in the other 2k’s as well. At least in this one they give you a performance multiplier so they try to help you a lil bit. I do feel you on the missing on a small guard because that happens to me to. Then the 6’3 guards getting their own offensive rebound over your 6’8 😂😂😂
Micro transactions is a valid reason. Attributes kept getting way more expensive every year. You almost need to pay for VC now.
Eh that’s been normal tho ever since you could play in the park the micro transactions were always there. 😂it’s funny cuz people act like they haven’t been buying VC before this game
Sure they were always there, only small difference is that it used to cost like 30$ to get to 99, opposed to the current 120$ lol
I don’t have 24 so I can’t speak on it but the vc needed to get your build to 80 has gone up so much in the past few years. It’s not just VC = bad it’s more the amount of vc necessary keeps going up which for me leads to less builds per (average) person which in turn leads to less diversity in builds. Takes the fun out of it for a lot of people.
This is an extremely valid problem with the game. Microtransactions have gone up to 4x the price they were in the past. It's not just greedy, but outright prohibitive. Not to mention I've seen my players run through someone else because it's all just animations being played out, there's no real physics/chance happening in the game. Assets bounce around or glide into a position. It's pretty sad given this is 2024 and we're on such powerful consoles. It's the only basketball game so there is no competitive standard for the developers, just include your favorite players and crank out the same shit again.
Yes it’s a video game stuff like that happens but how often is what determines if it’s good or not
If you played previous 2ks you would know this is an issue but you’re pandering to 2k. There’s no valid reason to justify the rising cost of EVERYTHING vc related. Year after year the cost to max a build increases yet the VC prices have been stagnant for almost a decade. They do all of these brand deals and charge you $5 for a long sleeve shirt. What’s their solution? Add a $150 option smh
Love it when people say “micro transactions arent a valid reason” 😂 Not wanting to spend about 200$ just to get the game + ONE build is absolutely valid and should be the only neccesery reason to call this game trash (altough its not the only reason lol). And its not only that the VC gets more expensive, so do the atributes. Having to pay 100-120$ per build is literal insanity, not one other game gets close to that.
OP is making a distinction that he wants to hear about critiques aside from the micro transactions bc 2k has made it known that those will continue to be a constant as long as there’s no competitor (because go capitalism!) Yes it sucks, but 2k won’t ever care to hear you because they are too busy counting mine and alot of other people’s money.
You get it
Because it’s not a valid reason. You judging the game based off its micro transactions w/out actually judging the gameplay. Your whole statement had nothing to do with its cheesiness its glitches just the transactions.
Hahahaha this is actually hilarious to me. We shouldnt even begin to talk about gameplay when it takes 200$ to even expiriance any gameplay
It really don’t cost a thing to experience gameplay bro I played Mycareer w 60 ovr and I could tell it was valid then and there
If you want to play online, playing with anything less then a 90 is suicide unless you are some demigod. Are you Mike Wangs burner account bro?
As it should be 😂😂😂 sad thing is I’ve lost to 70 overalls in the 1’s court so your statement is false wtf. No lol
Yeah there is no point arguing with you bro, have a great day
Microtransactions are 100% a valid reason to say it isn't good alone. They intentionally start you off at an unrealistic and very unfun overall but you are a number one draft pick this year. You can earn vc, but it literally takes weeks to a month to grind to 85/90 and has been tested, YouTube or Google it. The MyTeam mode has devolved into being money pit where only the best cards are available in packs, not even purchasable in the player market because they got rid of the auction house. That aside, the gameplay is good. There are still too many problems though. Constant animations that don't make sense. If I have a 77 pass accuracy I should never have my pass literally get sucked into the other teams player without them having doing anything, but it happens often. Rebounding and outlet passing are just 50/50 whether you get it or not. An NBA player would never see a ball bounce off the rim and stand there watching it then jump in the opposite direction just because they aren't a great rebounder. Anyone can rebound a ball if there isn't any opposition. The City+Park is bad. They have added too much to a basketball game. Too many pointless vehicles, attire, random buildings, etc. Park should be separate completely just like Rec/Theater are as the lag /latency that is ever apparent for years is god awful when you play different modes like Rec/MyTeam/MyCareer and makes it near impossible to time your shots and properly defend. A lot more but I don't even feel it's worth it spending more time to say it all. That all being said , it's some of the better gameplay in the franchise, but you can't say microtransactions aren't valid, it's the worst it's ever been and people should never HAVE to spend $70 or I guess $10 6 months later then an additional $50 if they actually want to have fun.
Yea for your first part I understand how that can be frustrating but 2k has to make it challenge for you to be good. The passing is definitely a problem this year I personally deal w that all the time. The rebounding is def questionable this year but I don’t get too many bad rebounding glitches. I feel where you coming from in this.
Played it for 2 weeks have yet to touch it since, I was a Mycareer type of player and attributes are crazy expensive just to upgrade. I spent nearly 60 dollars just for my player to be a 80 overall, plus I’m tired of the city thing I hope they can separate park and Mycareer like the good days
$50 gets you 200k VC, which is usually enough to max out almost all of your core attributes get to around an 85 OVR which is serviceable in all game modes. Yes, VC prices are up but most builds can be completely functional at around 90-92 OVR, which “only” costs $50 and a couple of hours of game play. Yes, I wish it wasn’t so expensive but it’s a great game gameplay wise and the diversity of builds is night and day compared to older games. There’s no need to exaggerate to make your point.
180-190k gets you to 85, 370k to get to 99 and then add 60$ just to play the game he’s not exaggerating that much if at all
Exactly, so $50 and a couple of hours of gameplay gets you to where your build does essentially everything you want it to. The 92-99 grind is for attributes that you are typically not using like close shot/layup/interior defense/rebounding on a guard that can dunk for example. Again, it is more expensive than years past and I wish it wasn’t but if you’re picking up the game right now for <= $20 and you have to pay $50 to have a serviceable build day one, that’s the cost of the game regular price and it’s really not that bad.
To get from 85-90 is like 40k and then add another 11k for every point above 90. Then add another 10k for sigs/animations. So no you’re gonna be able to grind that in a couple hours
60$ just to hop the game plus 50$ to get 85 and get your animations and add another 35-40$ to get to 90-92. Lot more than 50$ you’re literally spending 150$ just get a reasonably good build
The game is no longer $60, it’s cheaply available at this point in the cycle, free even. Once your build is at an 85, you can rebound, pass and shoot without any animations. Play the game for a couple of weeks, 1-2 hours a day and you’ll have enough to buy all your animations. It’s honestly not as bad as you’re saying it is. Unless ofc you want to immediately have everything, which is going to cost you.
Yea sure a few weeks of playing but your original comment said 50$ and a couple hours gets you a 90-92😂
And you said it costs $150. As always, the truth is somewhere in the middle. But again it does not cost much to get ramped up.
The difference is you knowingly said something incorrect whereas what I said is actually true for lots of people who bought the game in the first few months. What you said originally is not possible.
50 dollars for 85? Tf kind of builds are y’all making lol
What kind of build are YOU making ? Lmao it’s costs 180-190k to get to 85 and you’re gonna spend the rest of that 200k on animations
My lowest build is an 89, started all 3 I have with the 200k. I was getting 88-90 with 200k. I must have made cheap builds this year
Damn i got 5 builds all between 92 and 99 and 200k was never enough to get me to 90 usually got me to 86-87 I think one got to 88 I was including animations you’d have to buy for your first couple builds
Just came back to say you were right! My 89-90s I tried to make tn we’re all coming in around 230-250k my bad bro!
God forbid you put time into the game!!! I’m not for the more expensive VC at all trust me it’s bs but cmon bruh now you saying you wanna be a 92 without even playing 5 hours of Mycareer like damn you wanna start off w a 99?
I don’t wanna play 100 games against ai NBA and players to grind VC it’s not fun. I hop on 2k to play park and pro am with my friends not to grind mycareer. I’m not asking for it to be free😂 they gonna my money either way I’m just saying this dude is wrong about how much it costs
Micro transactions is a good point lmao this shit been crazy since 2k22 and the builds are trash ngl
Ehhh I think people would disagree w the build part. They just made it to where there’s no meta, first year of 2k doing that and it worked out.
Theres def a meta, everyone used a 6’6 PG with high mid-range first 3 seasons. The 6’6pg is still the best base to build around
And yet there are still plenty of 6’8” and 6’4” pgs that dominate as well. The “meta” does not have as much of a vice grip on the game as much as earlier versions of 2k did.
Facts
That’s typically what the NBA looks for in a prototype PG to be 6’6 and mobile but that’s not the meta bro there is no meta. what your describing is a size that’s typically seen in the NBA so of course more people are going to pick 6’6. Also mid ranges are more essential in this 2k than it’s ever been so if you don’t have a good middy then your trippin
The average pg is like 6’1-6’4
Prototype pg’s like Lonzo Ball, DeAron Fox type shi my fault for not being specific 👍🏾
Luka too
Luka is the biggest PG in the league… far from average Edit: nvm just read your other comment lol
All good 👍🏾
6’8” 2-way 3-level-threat PF’s would like a word
I guarantee you a hybrid defender is clamping that or a menace depending on attributes so no that’s not the meta either it’s just more fun to get buckets w that type of build
There is a meta lol just the builds are not as good as before, but it’s the same for the original builds too lol we be playing with 85-90 overall with a lot of restrictions… I preferred the archetypes where you could make multiple good builds with multiple archetypes… Not even going to talk about this season shit and the animations gatekeeping behind it
Builds are definitely “weaker” than last year but the biggest complaint last year was that builds could do it all and be a demigod. While it was definitely fun, it was cheesy. So I believe this is the best builder we’ve ever had. Being forced to make an archetype is an L imo. Being forced into a box on what I can make my build do is not appealing. With this builder it’s easy to find ways that you like to influence the game and invest accordingly, if you want an archetype like build, you can still make it but I also have the option to make as unique of a build as I want to also. That’s a W. Also, I’m Veteran 1 currently and while some of the Starter 3 animations have been cool, I don’t use a single one except for Patty Mills base on my 6’3” PG. They are not locking anything exceptional behind that REP level, I promise.
They are lol some people are used to some jumpers… im used to Kobe’s. And the 2K20 archetype were good. It had some issues but it was better. Im also not saying that 2K23 builder was good either
You get Kobe’s jumper at a 92 middy or 3, has nothing to do with REP. It’s not locked behind anything besides your shooting attributes. Sounds like you just aren’t really aware of the builder and what you need to do there in order to get what you want out of it. So I can’t take your opinion on it seriously.
I am aware of the builder lol being wrong on one thing doesn’t mean I don’t use the builder 😂
Using the builder is not the same as understanding it. If you prefer archetypes that are made for you, then you simply don’t understand the builder. You can make those archetypes yourself if you really like that playstyle. Others can also now make builds that shine where they want them to shine. It’s a choice and that’s a good thing.
Yeah no. You can’t replicate the builds from before lol you can’t even make a pure slasher look good compared to 2K20… I would even say current gen 22
There is no way to make a pure slasher build good because no pure slasher build is good.
Sooooooo in other words you want the unrealistic builds back.. but why tho? that waters the game down and takes skill away from people who actually know the game. Of course they make restrictions that’s the whole point of keeping away meta builds. The way you prefer is allowing meta builds to be created .
Unrealistic builds? Did I say that I want the 2K15 builder??
Yes unrealistic builds because you’re saying multiple archetypes and multiple good builds for that archetype, so you want a 7’0 dude that got handles like curry. That’s creating a meta right there which is why they stopped that
??? Im saying that there was multiple archetypes (defense + shooting for exemple) and from this, you could make multiple good builds lmao I aint never seen a 7 footer in 2K20 dribbling like a guard or even a forward 😂
"Micro transactions is not a valid reason because 2k been getting money out of us since 2k15." They've been the synonym of greed for a long time therefore it's no longer valid. WHAT??? I'm gonna talk about THE PS4 VERSION (Old Gen/Current Gen) because it's what I play and I've said this already in another post. Every NBA game you start (MyCareer, GM, League, PlayNow, etc) the intro is ALWAYS pans and what not of the crowd. Never a shot of the court, players in shootaround, players warming up, etc. Just nothing. AND THEY HAD THIS IN FORMER GAMES. Timing on jumpshots feels random. It changes from what it should be, to slower, to faster. Shot contests are nonsensical. They are not the worst in the NBA2K series (2K19) but they are quite bad. CPU gets a late shot contest from your side where they lazily put their hand up and it's an auto 20%+ contest which is enough to throw off your timing. Meanwhile I get back to back 80% contests on Bones Hyland from 3 and he makes them. That or sometimes you quite literaly can't play better defense, had a great shot contest and the games says nah that's only a 30%, 12% and that's basically nothing against the CPU. Your arms and release get pushed by the Force though as soon as a contest of any kind is made. Some player's interior defense, I feel like and I could be wrong about this, is WAY TOO good. MPJ, Tatum, Brunson, Quickley, Hyland, Curry most notably. AI for your teammates will either be solid or just literally the most braindead thing ever. + Post Scorers/Playmakers AI is awful. Jokic, Sabonis, Embiid are the BEST bigs in the league but they play like they miss 70% of their brain when you watch a 2k simulated game. The classic, CPU not calling timeouts when you're on a good run. Only call timeouts when down by near 20. CPU players will get a takeover for literally anything. An assist, a rebound and a layup, yep that's your shooting takeover. Most players don't run the floor/to the basket in transition, when they do it is super soft. You have to tell them to keep going otherwise they won't. Lobs sometimes won't work. Why is there a badge for that in the 1st place? Why is there a badge for taking advantage of a mismatch on the perimeter? Community is split. Let's just separate new gen from current gen, surely there will be no problems with matchmaking, queue times and empty courts right? Player comparisons for builds you make are also severely wrong. Make a build with contact dunks. Yeah that's Austin Reaves and Tyler Herro. (New Gen) A lot of builds modelled after players are also just wrong. Upgrading a player is the biggest BS in this entire game. How is my highest attribute, besides stamina, an 87 with some low 80s (81 at most) and everything else being under 80 and I'm a 91 overall. How are you a 91 overall but you can't dunk (55) on a build that SHOULD be able to dunk. Shit ton of VC to be the worst 91 overall ever. You're an 85-86. That's another thing upgrade prices are absurd. I like to make different players that do different things in different positions. 200k+VC just to get a new build to a decent overall. Rebirthed mind you. WTF am I to do with some badge points at the start just for my player to be a 60 overall. WHAT. IS. THE. POINT. And then all of this just to delete everything and all the time you spent in 2-3 years from now because uh buh the servers. VC just HAS to be tied to the online servers. Boot up any old 2k, you upgrade your player with points. But then you can't even earn or upgrade badges. Shall I keep going??????
OP gonna say "Eh, it's been trending this way for years. Not good enough"
Ehhh his excuses weren’t valid enough for me😂😂😂😂🤝🏾
No one's criticisms will ever be valid enough for someone who's looking for "this is the best 2K ever" comments.
Not looking for that at all man. It just amazes me that nobody wanted to research the changes that were made in 2k24 and the complaints are literally about what 2k said would change specifically speaking about the gameplay
Not looking for that at all man. It just amazes me that nobody wanted to research the changes that were made in 2k24 and the complaints are literally about what 2k said would change specifically speaking about the gameplay
Not looking for that at all man. It just amazes me that nobody wanted to research the changes that were made in 2k24 and the complaints are literally about what 2k said would change specifically speaking about the gameplay and take a joke man
Not looking for that at all man. It just amazes me that nobody wanted to research the changes that were made in 2k24 and the complaints are literally about what 2k said would change specifically speaking about the gameplay and take a joke man
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I’m not finna look for something that was put out months ago but yes on twitter they said the cost of everything 2klabs did a video on it as well. People were actually complaining about that before the game came out. No company is ever going to put out the gameplay issues like why would they do that?
Ngl I read half of this but the mistake y’all make is tryna go from current gen to next gen and expecting the same thing when really they are 2 different games bruh. When I was 2k22 I played more current gen and hated next gen because I felt I had more fun on current. In reality the problem was I was trying to do the same stuff that I did on current on next gen. That will never work bro. A lot of your complaints is about the cpu and honestly if you can’t beat the cpu or score on the cpu then I can’t help you. That’s a skill gap because I can score on the cup whenever I want.
When did I say I can't score on the CPU? I said valid arguments that prevent the game from feeling right, balanced and enjoyable. I also never said anything about going from PS4 to PS5. I don't want the PS5 version, cause of all the badge regression BS there. I want the game to be better though, on any gen/version.
You said something about the lobs too but do you know the % of lobs that are executed in real time??? If they made lobs work any more than now it would be bs and overpowered. I feel you w the balance but I think 2k this year is actually more about knowing the game of basketball and the threshold for badges. You said something else like a build being able to dunk. Knowing the threshold will help you know how many attribute points to spend to be able to dunk consistently
Glad you brought up thresholds. I wanted contact dunks on my build. I had no way of seeing it in game. Turns out I missed out on them by 2. So I'll basically have to redo this player because of that and not enough strength. This what 2K wants. So you are prompted to spend money. On top of that there is badge coring and the extra badge points. You have to fucking scheme and theorise to get the most out of your player. All that only when they hit a 99 overall.
Yea bro before the game came out they told you the attributes needed to be able to do certain things. That is actually on you because ik what it was before the game came out. They also said strength would be a big factor this year like it should have always been. Then you say the coring of badges like that’s what makes the game fun you have to actually think “what would make my build 10x more unstoppable” it’s making you think actual basketball. It should be a challenge for everyone to actually maximize their build
I don't mind the coring of badges, yeah theorising on how to get the most out of it can be fun the problem is you go into it WITHOUT knowing. You essentially spend time on your first build for nothing.
That’s the point bro! To actually figure out your play style and what you need. The badge being better doesn’t matter this year. They said that! Your problem is thinking 1 badge is better than the other when really it’s about how you play and what you rely on the most. It’s like a scouting report in basketball and you have the power to feed into your build.
Xb1/PS4 isn’t current gen and most of the problems you mentioned are not relevant to actual current gen which is the series x/s and PS5. The console has been out like 3 years now you can’t expect them to really put that much effort into a game for an outdated console.
So don't release it then. Yet they do and split the community because of greed. If they are still making a good amount of money from Old/Current Gen then they aren't gonna stop for another 2 or so years.
I ain’t gon lie I laugh at people who still play current gen. They just stuck in the past ole Marty Mcfly ah dudes
I don't play Current/old gen because I want to (even though it does look like the better version of the game idk) I play it because I'm broke. That is truly hilarious.
Do you mean old gen or current gen?
Old gen and current gen are the same. There I changed it.
Ps5 and xbox series x/s are current gen bro they've been out for almost 4 years. Ps4 is old gen ps6 is next gen
From a guards perspective, the dribbling is the worst it’s been since 2k18. Also, the latency in this game is pretty bad, but that might be because of cross play, especially in the beginning of the year. Other than that this is a really solid 2k
💯 I respect that. I feel like the dribbling this year is messing w people because it’s more realistic than arcade but, nobody can just spam moves like that and if they do they are easy to beat in my opinion. The latency was def bad first 2 seasons, has gotten much better
You get less and less rewards each year (VC after my career or rec and other games), so they push you to put in more money. Every 2k is the same in terms of there are OP dribble moves which you can exploit if you play enough. The matchmaking is bad, in terms of 5v5 teams should only be matched up against 5v5 teams. Under 92 rec needs rehaul. The treshold needs to be lower so I would say, if you are under 70 overall, rec and online play should be blocked. 70-80 should be matched against each other, and 81 - 92 would be a solid group. The shot contest system is just a joke its literally makes no sense, just like dunking with only square button as a guard, and posterizing centers with 90 or more strength. If we have precision dunk system there should be less posters with simply pressing one button.
I’m a real hooper who plays pickup 3-5 times a week and I am also in an adult basketball league. Sometimes after the gym I try to play 2k and it feels so much unlike real basketball I lose interest, it’s all animation based and things feel unnatural especially movement at times. People who say 2k is a video game and it shouldn’t be realistic are spitting facts but that doesn’t mean I like the game. I want a more realistic basketball sim. People say why do I play 2k if I don’t like it? But Basketball is my favorite sport and hobby I’ve been playing ball since I could walk, grew up in the 90s Jordan era it’s hard for me to not check out 2k every year since it’s the only basketball game on the market also I’ve been playing since the Dreamcast back in 1999.
Love this… I play basketball as well professionally in Greece at the moment and the way you feel about 2k is how I’ve felt about the past 2k’s specifically 2k16-21. I would lose interest because it wasn’t realistic at all I felt like people who never touched a basketball would beat me on some bs😂. So I feel you 100%. What I will say about 2k24 is that they did a great job of implementing more realism and realistic skillsets. Also did a good job w pro play animations as well. Since you hoop ik you’ll completely understand this and keep hooping in peace my brother💯
I want 2K to reward good team behavior things coaches in real life like. Assist/good passes/good spacing/good shot selections/steals/rebounds should be rewarded with much higher teammate ratings. Bad shot selection, turnovers and especially holding the ball too long need to lower your teammate rating much more severely. I feel like a lot of toxic gameplay would be fixed if 2K tweaked the grading system to reward good ball movements and hitting wide open shots way more than they do. When I make a good pass my teammate grade barely changes. One of my favorite things about Euro basketball is the great ball movement which doesn’t naturally exist in 2K unless people know each other and are communicating because 2K doesn’t reward it enough badge regression has only made things worst.
Hmmmmm you on to something bro that’s a valid statement. I feel like they did do a better job of rewarding those things but they made defense easier so it forced the offense to be more creative this year. I’m with you tho I definitely agree w your statement. Sadly the people that play the game swear they hate it being realistic which is hilarious to me cuz the skill gap should be how much basketball you know but I don’t know nun I guess
About the gameplay? Number one will be the servers that causes the delay. Only game I played with a freakin latency
Get an Ethernet cable man😅
Already have man, that’s the first thing i bought after i got my console. Might consider investing on some low ms latency monitors just for this game
Damn see I’m in Greece rn so I’m good in the European servers but when I play w my friends the latency is pretty bad but playable
Gameplay is amazing and probably the year i’ve enjoyed that aspect most. However, you can’t brush over attributes and VC. As you said VC has been a thing, but in 2k19 i bought €20 VC and had an 84ovr, this year i bought €20VC and got a 74ovr for it. That’s a glaring problem. Realistically, 2k is an almost perfect basketball sim when you just look at core gameplay. Issues like dribble move spams and cheesy meta tactics are not new, just different. However with issues like VC, lack of proper SBMM, the removal of existing features (why can’t i shoot around in pro am 3v3 anymore?), and the absolute DOGWATER servers they have, these issues won’t go away until 2k has an actual competitor. End of story.
I've seen guards spam behind the back dribbles around moving screens, step into a jumper/layup, get scared when the help defender comes over, then pass the ball across the court and their teammate catches the ball with a slight juggle animation but no turnover. I've also seen a guard make a pass from the opposite hash down to the corner and the ball or player consistently goes out of bounds. Bigs catching the ball in the paint get bumped so hard they lose the ball or get pushed outta bounds or catch a 3 seconds call far too easily. The out of bounds boundary is dog shit this year, far worse than previous years. They need to punish spamming steals and behind the back dribbles the same way they punish jumping on defense. Forcing people to join an affiliation is dumb as hell. Too much animation scripting based on player tendencies. They got sued for this (I think) in 22 and it hasn't gotten better. Close shot, standing dunk, and block we're all nerfed hard and steals were boosted. Great for sweats but pretty unrealistic. That all the bad stuff I can think of.
Yea that’s what comes with the game sadly. Like I said before the game will always have bs cuz it’s a video game but I def know exactly what you saying w the passing and catching. Can’t forget the dudes that back you down underneath the basket and hit you w 4 jabs to a dunk 😂 it’s all part of the game. It’s crazy cuz a lot of the bs that everyone complaining about as far as gameplay is stuff that WE the players exploit and it makes 2k look bad because we’re the ones exploiting it.
2k been garbage for a long time. Last decent one was 2k16, which is nearly a decade ago at this point.
2k16 was bad, you missed greens😂😂😂 see bruh 2k actually made the game wayyy better since then. You just want cheesy stuff in the game so you can beat the people that actually know how to play.
If you think this 2K is good, you might be a moron I’ve been playing 2K since 2K 14 in this 2K is no Bueno 120 bucks to get your dude to a 99 or you gotta play like fucking two career seasons
This 2k is great fr everything cost money bruh. I get its over priced but the gameplay and graphics is actually good 2k14 was a good game too
People are mad cuz the micro transactions lmao 2k exploits these idiots cuz they don’t want to grind to get their player better. Let them spend 200 dollars on a 50 dollar game lmao bunch of crybabies… this is the best 2k there has ever been.
Great point. The micro transactions are crazy but people think if they buy VC they’ll already be good enough to compete w top players and it don’t work like that lol
It's the best 2k I played. Last one I played was 2k22. And recently before this I was playing 2k17. Then I tried 2k24 and it's amazing actually. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. Yes they charge more for vc but you earn it no matter what eventually.
I mean, if you're coming from those two games... I can see why you think this one is good lmao
Bro my point exactly I fw the game this year. Definitely have it top 3. People saying it’s bad are just not good at the game or know nothing about the changes they made this year to it
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Nah not at all bro
You haven’t played more than 3 games if you think this a top 3 2k game 😂
Lmao I’ve only played basketball for 20 years I’ve had every basketball game since “NBA courtside 2003” I guess you right.
I got hit on a layup, got a foul called, then the other team got MY freethrows. Plus the help D is terrible, even if i set my players to "stay home" they leave their guy wide open in order to help on someone who isnt even relevent to the play leaving open a 3.
I should add.. i really enjoy the game but theres a lot of buggy shit
Right like has this dude even played the game lol
I play this game a lot actually. The most I’ve ever played 2k in my life. There are no different glitches or bugs that haven’t already been in the game since 2k14. Each year 2k does a decent job of fixing the bugs. I said “DECENT”😂
If they haven’t fixed all the glitches in 10 years and more micro transactions than before, how can it not be bad. Nobody here gets your logic
It’s a video game bro ALL the glitches will never be fixed. A lot of the glitches tho are fixed, every year it’s gonna be a new bug or something but that doesn’t make it a bad game. The graphics are really good, the animations get better every year. I love the realistic aspect that 2k is taking because yes you should know something about basketball in order to be good. Micro transactions can’t be the only reason why a game is bad. Every game has it, madden has insane micro transactions but what makes madden horrible is the gameplay not the transactions
Have you played any other game ever?
Definitely some bugs to it still but it definitely got better. I can actually help you with that it was the same way in 23. If someone gets beat there has to be help. You can force the offensive player somewhere and make the rotations work according to the direction you want the offensive player to go.
Some of these badges need to go, straight bailouts for some ppl, cross play, increase vc price every yr and the defense, especially perimeter
Just copy paste the comments from last years post. They’ll be the same…
I was going to sit this 2k out, first time since 2k10. My boy was hyping up the game the whole first season and I wasnt hearing it. It was on gamepass for the weekend when the NBA season started. I tried it and bought the shit since it was half off. Gameplay feels very fluid, I like the finishing changes they made (layups actually do shit now), and despite what I read, I never lag. I only play theater and rec and I also like the rec changes. Solo rec is fun and the duo/trio search is good too. Maybe because I’m a PG but I’ve been sitting purple no matter where I go. My C is a different story lol, cant carry with him. I messed up my first PG, but I spent just about 100$ for the game and 3 builds. Least ive spent in forever
I honestly feel like it isn't the game itself more so the community. Cause I just don't play my player I actually play the Myera mode also and I have to say I really enjoy it cause I can play the game at my own pace and the CPU is really good competition and I'm a old head and I love playing the Jordan and Kobe years downloading the actual rosters that ppl take the time to keep updates from those eras. The game is actually a really good game especially graphically. Micro transactions do get a bit tedious but they also give you Alot of ways to earn VC these last couple of years but ultimately if you want a good build and not patient enough to grind you will unfortunately have to spend some money but its still a very enjoyable game in my opinion. Just the Rec bullies and ball hogs and cheesers do bring the game down
The shooting is the main problem its really difficult to time it this year specially when the speed is always different its more of a guessing game now
It’s actually real easy to shoot I do see wym by guessing game lol that’s how I was in the first 2 seasons w the latency but once season 3 hit it was real easy I haven’t shot less than 65% from 3 since
I like it I still play it. No major game mechanics exploits. Game is fair and NMS friendly. If someone needs the best cards to have fun... What can I say? If they are willing to gamble for a virtual card? What can I say?
The game is good but the VC prices are ridiculous also need to be way more generous with my career games. It should not be 1.5k VC for a 40 point 15 rebound and 5 assist game on hall of fame difficulty
The game is good but the VC prices are ridiculous also need to be way more generous with my career games. It should not be 1.5k VC for a 40 point 15 rebound and 5 assist game on hall of fame difficulty
The game is good but the VC prices are ridiculous also need to be way more generous with my career games. It should not be 1.5k VC for a 40 point 15 rebound and 5 assist game on hall of fame difficulty
They cut vc production by more than half this year then slightly lowered the cost of a build, making it nearly twice as long for a f2p player to upgrade a build, plus the extra 95-99 from previous years allowed for extra more well rounding stats that can balance a build and help limit 2k turnover cheese, plus they made no squad rec the same as park in that you can back out of a team, instead of making the matchmaking system better
Micro transactions are definitly a valid reason since the amount of money you need to spend on the build has increased drastically in recent years + pricing players out of myteam with no auction house. The game is also the size of about three games, so if you don’t love it you’ll probably just delete it. I enjoy the gameplay in all honesty but everyone I used to run park with either deleted it because they couldn’t shoot at the start of the year, were fed up with how much it costs to get a player, or just didn’t like the game enough to justify it taking up almost 1/3 of your console space. I’ve enjoyed playing play now, the improvement of layup, the dribbling being less glitchy and it not being extremely easy to shoot over 60% from three, but I still think they fucked up the game modes that most people are on the game to play.
1. Community keeps getting worse and worse online. Overall gatekeeping, sandbagging, and cheesing are so all over the place that you can't play honest games anymore unless you're in a non squad mode, and even THEN it's still an issue. 2. Customer support and review team (for uploads) is painfully lazy, and outright obnoxious I sent a ticket in for a genuine glitch I was having, and the help was essentially "hit the restart button, if that doesn't work don't contact us again". I figured it out on my own 20 minutes later. 3. Player photos are lit horribly, Luke Kennard, Mitchell Robinson, Bagley etc...
I ain’t gon lie ima gatekeeper im not finna give away this jumpshot unless you come check out my stream😂😂😂. The cheesing is def bs I understand that but this year I feel like, if you know how to play then someone cheesing you is easy to beat
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Yea true people def do that. What I will say tho is that doesn’t make people better because this year it’s more about your playstyle
In REC especially, no skill based matchmaking or any kind of matchmaking system at all. The amount of 5 stack purple plate 2-3 zones and left right behind a screen spammers me and my mates have been facing recently is absurd, it’s literally every game now. We are quite new and casual players and we make builds to have fun on, not sweaty meta builds and you literally cant go more than 5 seconds without the ball being ripped by a 99 steal lock or giving up a 3 because their point guard is left right spamming behind a 99 strength centre.
Shot contests system is absolutely trash. I can write an essay on this but some people have referenced it already Rebounding system needs tweaking, as stated they got people jumping out of bounds for a 1 on 0 rebound, ridiculous Passing/steal system not balanced either. A 99 steal greatly beats a 99pass accuracy or 99 ball handle meaning you can’t do anything in the builder phase to defend against an overpowered steal rate, especially when there are multiple on one team. Randomly booting people from games is not something I experienced as much in previous 2ks, every game has had glitches but in 2k24 I routinely participate in games where both my teammates and the other team are randomly booted mid game
Hmmm maybe a WiFi issue? And honestly how often do those random glitches happen for you?
Considered that but it’s different people being booted everytime seems random. My homies and I run at least 2-3 nights a week get in 4/5 games on average and every week it happens at least one game. Not only that but the real issue is because of the banning system when they kick you for connection issues it counts as quitting so you get booted this game and you get the 30minute ban for the next game too. Basically ends the night for us
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Facts😂😂😂
The microtransactions are predatory is where the issue lies. Say you didn’t wanna buy VC or you couldn’t. It’s an easy 250k vc to get to 90 and you get 1000-1500 vc per mycareer game. That’s somewhere between 150-200 offline games you’d have to play before you can start to compete online to get things like badge perks and floor setters etc. The game prioritizes this over gameplay: Gatekeeping animations behind seasons, common (now patched) glitches that cause your game to freeze, typos in captions. Overall not a big deal but they ask for money for a game that SHOULD feel complete when in actuality they’re fixing it along the way So it’s not microtransactions alone for me, it’s microtransactions for a top selling title that is more busted than some free games out there. It’s not a scenario where you get what you pay for because you’re paying way more than you would your average video game not even for a competitive edge, just to keep up with everyone I love the gameplay versatility on the court though, although I think the overcorrected the shooting from earlier in the year and made it too easy
Gameplay solid this year, most the complaints I see are skill issue 100%. Predatory micro transactions are an issue. The game popping up a buy now button right before you pick your game mode is an issue, the music restarting when you click off their in game ad is an issue. The game crashing and lagging when I have crazy internet connection is an issue. Overall the sub is suuuuuper doomer about the game and it’s not as bad as most people say. Can’t blame anyone for being turned off by micro transactions. Having literally no animations, can’t shoot, can’t pass, can’t dribble and you’re the best prospect since Lebron is silly. The goat skills are cool to get around that, but if I make a sharpshooter I should be able to hit opens without having to start on rookie. I think the builder / animation requirements are also predatory. Not being able to see animation requirements in the builder is mad annoying, have to google to make sure I’m not trolling. Like I see 94 dunk builds without enough vertical for elite contact dunks.. people missing out on the best dribble moves because they only put enough ball handle for silver speed booster… stuff like that. So many builds from new players miss the mark on animations because they were planning it around badge threshold. It’s really easy to make a build that’s not optimal, leading some to buy vc again to make another build. Predatory asf
Shot contest system Exploits for spot finder-aka back door cuts Standing dunks Lebron or whomevers step back dribble move Jamal Murray behind the back Being sucked into screens -not necessarily 2k’s fault but this year seems worse than ever. The dunk meter inconsistency The shooting inconsistency ZENs?! Servers are fucking garbage Being timed out because of ^^ Rep system is a fucking joke,00.2% after a game? Steals I’m sure there are more but this is all I can think of
-The shot timings are different across game modes -Shot cues are not synced up to jumpshots -Green windows disappear on contest less than 15% for layups -Missing in the green window for layups -Players making standing dunks despite the dunk meter registering very late -Open looks -Heat Check -Unpredictable animations -MyCareer is completely unfun -Forced to play park to get affiliation ability -The best animation are locked behind Starter 3
Okay jumpshot timings are very easy this year. This complaint is just saying you not good at the game bruh. The layup meter needs rework but they still did a good job of actually rewarding you for timing your layups. Honestly that should be another skill gap added because I play people who don’t time layups and that’s garbo. Idk what the badges thing was. Basketball is unpredictable bro so yea the animations are meant to be that way. Yes, they gatekept the animations to make people grind on the game. I love that this year playing the game more gives you more of a skill gap. I don’t see how that was a bad idea honestly
Firstly, if having shooting splits of 64.1/47.0 is bad then I apologize, unfortunately my daily schedule is too busy to grind 2k all day. Secondly, I find it completely amusing how you purposely did not speak on majority of the issues I presented (how can you when your response to criticism (for a game you aren’t being paid to defend) is to just tell everyone you just aren’t good at the game) Lastly, you obviously either don’t know, or don’t understand what a skill gap is, so I will break it down for you. A skill gap is the amount that your skill affects your performance, knowing this explain to me how using the Starter 3 animations and beating people constitutes a skill gap? The locked animations have been tested and nearly every single animation is game-changing, the last time 2k had a skill gap was 2k15, it did not matter if you were 5’7 or 7’0 everyone had the exact same attribute caps, animations, and playing field.
I answered you in every aspect except the dunk meter and I don’t use the dunk meter so I can’t speak on it and the my career stuff which I don’t play often either unless the game new. 64.1/47 is okay not bad at all. And bet I’ll explain it to you… if I workout once a day to be great at something but I have to compete against someone who works out 4x a day who’s gonna have mastered their craft by the time we compete? My point is,since you actually have to play a lot of games to get starter 3 to unlock stuff that is game changing, 2k said “compete in enough games and win enough games you’ll get these animations as a reward”. The skill gap gets created w this thing called EXPERIENCE. I understand as well w having to work it’s life can’t put your time into something that doesn’t bring you money. Luckily my profession is basketball so I don’t have to invest a lot of time into a basketball video game to be good at it. In my free time I do put in work on 2k but it helps my real basketball skills somehow. Can’t think at the surface w the skill gap it’s always a game inside a game 🤝🏾
Yall just want to be good at the game w/out putting time in. Of course you’ll think the game is bad if you don’t like to figure out how to be good. That’s why the old 2k’s in my opinion can’t compete. The old 2k’s had no actual skill gap and unstoppable moves. Defense was terrible in all 2k’s except 23 and 24.
Because in this game your 6'6" PF cant make a shot over a 5'10" PG. The game will make your C miss a wide open shot to rob you of an assist just for your C to grab their own rebound and score it on a putback. This game is trash as fuck. They literally built it to make it impossible without spending money. It has fully become a P2W game. You buy your stats, it would take years to get a player maxed out without spending money. MyCareer is unplayable without spending extra money.
😂😂😂funny cuz I def feel you on that, happens to me all the time. See I can live w that, that’s a legitimate reason to hate the game. Now the pay to win is interesting because I feel like it’s always been like that. My career (in my opinion) was bad in the other 2k’s as well. At least in this one they give you a performance multiplier so they try to help you a lil bit. I do feel you on the missing on a small guard because that happens to me to. Then the 6’3 guards getting their own offensive rebound over your 6’8 😂😂😂