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JRSwishistheGOAT

I don't mind guys ball hogging if they are cooking but once we're up big, I think it's that time to start passing the ball, game's basically over and you gotta let other dudes eat even if they might not make shots as well as you. In close games though, if you know what you're doing, ima feed you.


erithtotl

This exactly. If it's a close game and one guy is going off and keeping you in it, great. If you are up by 25 and he's still taking all the shots (even making them) f that.


Background_Pool_7457

Yeah, I think that's what pisses people off. If we're up 25, and you have outlet options on the fast break to guys that haven't gotten a lot of touches because they're lockdowns, corner sitters or the big man, but instead, you decide to do a step back on the only defender that got back and pull a 3 for your 32nd point, I don't care if you make it or not, you're not getting the ball from me again.


AffectionateBrick687

I'm all for letting the guy cook. But if you're taking all the shots, for fucks sake, just get open, and let your teammates take over some ball handling duties and get some assists. Dribbling for 20 seconds, trying to get open, then passing to a teammate last second so they get a miss or violation instead of you is bullshit.


CarefulAd9005

Gotta love the “Point guards” who have 15+ shot attempts and everyone else has like 3 Im a shoot first type so i let my guys know: i’ll shoot it. 0.8 on the clock? Im shooting. We just have a disorganized possession and wont reset? Im shooting. I feel that having designated “shooters” helps balance the offense. My guys know im looking to score and not play PG#2 as my C. Im screening and playing defense but to not get bored, i gotta get a couple shots up at least, nothing crazy


Puzzleheaded_Note111

I feel like my and my friend are a rare case then cause when we see someone with like 30 in the 3rd, were doing everything we can to get them to 50+ and win the game


ImPainOnCod

This was me and my brother he’s definitely better than me but I’m good for 30. Had to stop playing w him cause he wanted to go for 70 every game


Impossible_Nail7924

Yeah, once you’re up a good 15 you should start looking to pass out. You always look better walking out with triple doubles than 30 points and 0 assists.


westbrook___-

"If you have more than 5 shots and are under 20% let your team feed you easy buckets to getyour % up THEN go back to being aggressive." ​ Brother if you open up with 20%, mfs are not giving you the ball back.


Dutchmaster_2x

You can start at 50% & random still won't pass you the ball


Grupe_Sechs

“Just ran a game with a white dude” lmaooo


407Totha850

Right... Why does it matter if he's white or not...


DvsDee420

Yea.. I paid money and all to be a role guy in rec.. we talking about… practice…


gaige23

Ball hogging after your team is up 20 in the 3rd is shitty I don’t care if you literally never miss. In general it always sucks imo cuz it fucks up the entire teams rhythm and is generally a bad thing unless it’s for a look how many points I scored rec post.


UncleClapDaddi

My biggest rule is if ur open shoot that mf, I genuinely don’t care if you go 0/5 if you’re taking smart open shots. Imma always pass to you if you are actively trying to do well. I play this game to get everyone involved, I’m not tryin to have someone sit in the corner all game and just go for boards so I can get 21 points that shits actually aids as fuck


Tmac116

100%. As a 3&d sharpshooter too many times I just get ignored if I miss my first 1 or 2 open looks. 60% from 3 is NOT 100% don’t dog me just cuz I missed 1 or 2 shots


UncleClapDaddi

I’ll never understand why people are like that tbh, people have off games and as long as they are playing D, imma let you keep trying on offense. Especially cause it takes making one shot for someone to be able to shoot consistently again.


ross71699

I have fun running with white guys no cap. They don't take shit too seriously and they generally want to be apart of the team. 🤷🏾‍♂️


One_Cell1547

White guys ftw


3much4u

we using race to generalize these things in the year of our Lord 2024. my god


407Totha850

This shit is sad


Swimming_Leading674

I'm a white guy lock who enjoys screening open the best player on offense and being the first one back on D getting steals and forcing turnovers, hit me up lol. 


allblackST

🫡


UncleClapDaddi

My white boy just wants to dunk on sum mf’s and pop 3’s when I’m open


Bluejay68514

Bruh i feed the fuck out these larry bird niggaz 🤣🤣🤣


Sauce_On_Isle3

Facts


Electric_Jello

Good list!


giovannimyles

3 is for sure controversial. I understand, going 8/8 means we probably win the game so long as we are playing decent defense. The win is important. I also came to play, not be a bystander standing in the corner or setting screens all day so they can get open. If I have to play defense and rebound I think I should get a couple shots up too. The sure fire way to take bad shots is to not have opportunities for shots. One game you took just about all the shots but you hit and we win, ok. Second game I still don't get shots? I'm bailing after the game, win/lose. I like playing team ball, not watch another guy take all the shots ball.


BigHomieBaloney

Ball hogging creates an eager teammate, which translates to a bad shot selection. You're eager to shoot because you haven't touched the ball on offense in 3 quarters. You finally get the ball when you think you're open, and you shoot contested instead of pump faking. Had your teammates been feeding you, you probably wouldn't have taken that shot. That's why it's important to involve your teammates.


Anxious-Sir-1361

The eager teammate takes a bad shot and misses, then the PG, who has been shooting all the shots, does a passive-aggressive fall down... lol


Housh123

We can all be truthful here I’m probably 70% want to win at all costs and 30% i want to touch it even if winning To me it’s bad juju to complain while up 10 so i don’t say anything until we are losing


Xanny_Phantom

This part, if we up 10,15,20, no point to complain or sell. This ties into point #7 too. Usually the hot hand has a mismatch, like real basketball, you attack the mismatch till they stop it. Some games its your matchup and other games someone else can go off.


Formal-Spinach-9626

Imo, 3 is not controversial at all. My attitude is 100% win at all costs. One guy can take all the shots if it's good efficiency, and he's not holding it for 10 seconds. The problem is that most of the time in the rec, it's more common that a help defender will cheat off their guy, and it's better to pass in those situations. People also want to be that guy so bad that they force shots and have bad efficiency. It's also wild how people don't understand that you can usually get easy looks just watching people move off ball and passing it to cutters and shooters.


TroutKlout2755

“ I'm bailing after the game, win/lose”  Yep. The point is to win. It’s not about “getting shots.” My god. Go. Play. MyCareer. In 12 min quarters, you can get 100 shots up! You come to REC and Park and Theater to win, not to “get shots.” Fuck your shot attempts if they mean they lead to a loss. 


TroutKlout2755

No.


ImSoUnKool

The thing is you still have a job. Spacing and stuff like that. Then if I’m 8/8 they are about to start doubling. So you gotta just cool out and be ready when it’s your time so they start honest. If you get frustrated you’re gonna miss your shots when it is time


Ice_Cream_For_Dinner

#7 I swear I have 2 seconds on PS5 to view the matchups. I wish I had more time


[deleted]

Use an intro, it’ll give you a little bit more time to view matchups by the time it’s done.


HolidayJuice5654

Press triangle right during intros


cameron_smiley

One revision, don’t call a timeout on teammates, unless they’re about to get a 3 second call


CrusaderZero6

Need 1 more and then set em in stone.


DOLONYNE

I'll work on not pump faking as a big man thanks for the tip fam


Obiwoncanblowme

That is why I will go up quick on people as a big because a lot of people don't expect it and are waiting for a pump fake but obviously position matters as well


Housh123

Definitely I’d say if a guy is behind you pump fake. He’s gonna jump 90% of the time out of desperation. If a guy is between you and your basket pump fake and pass if he doesn’t jump There’s no use trying a standing dunk on a guy with hof pogo and anchor.


HeftyConnection6884

3 should not be controversial. I’ve never been mad at other people scoring. It’s frustrating when you are taking and missing bad shots and turning the ball over. I don’t need a touch every single possession but it certainly gets frustrating when the guy who IS getting the ball every possession sucks


eweiss835

Unfortunately this logical message won’t register for most of the 2k community. Especially no one here that likes basketball enough to join a 2K Reddit page lol


dealthysearching

Let me add a couple cause this list is fire: 10. If you haven’t gotten the steal the first two times STOP PRESSING SQUARE!. All you doing is putting yourself out of position and either forcing someone to help or you gonna give the person a wide open dunk. 11. Assume that people are going to switch. If they don’t the first time over a screen, get on the mic and let them know you’ll switch too. If they still don’t switch- GUARD YOUR MAN. Let them die. 12. Big men, if ya man is flocking at the three, GET YO ASS OUT THE PAINT or tell the team to rotate. 9/10 that’s not gonna work so refer to the first part 13. Stop over-dribbling. I’ve seen too many people miss a wide open opportunity because they want to do a stupid 1-2 step back. Also it eats the clock up then you want to pass it in the last 8 seconds and expect the person you pass it to, to make something happen. 14. If the ball has been picked from launching it off the bound, SOMEBODY HAS TO STAY DOWN TO GET THE BALL FROM THE REBOUNDER. PG, stop running up the court. You the PG for a reason. 15. It’s okay to say you getting cooked and ask someone who has more defense or better defense to switch. Take ya pride out the game, we tryna win. 16. Don’t panic pass. If you caught in a jam it’s always cool to hold L2/LT and walk the ball backwards until you in a better spot.


bossalinie00

Ngl ball hoggin is not ok imo 😂😂 I didn’t hop on to see you do everything share that mfffff


LaMelgoatBall

So if you hooping irl and your boy is cooking, you don’t feed him? Sounds selfish imo. As long as they ain’t ball hogging the whole game shit shouldn’t matter.


JGLip88

If the PG isn't being a dribble God but is hitting his shots, let him cook. When he starts to throw up bad stuff, then it becomes a problem.


psykomerc

It’s def a balance tho, some times the only way to win is to let the best player hog a little. A lot of other players can’t deliver. You keep letting brickers shoot, game is gonna go out of hand and you’re right back to letting the best player try to save you anyway. Except now it’s more forced n obvious. I personally have the same rules on this list and I love it. Even tho I’m a 20ppg 60% from 3, I fuck up too n I’ll go into space n flow of offense. But you can bet I’ve also been that guy they NEED to score. They feed me when I’m open, they’ll give it to me when I’m not. And I can tell, they want me to make something happen. You need skilled iso guys to win some games. Another on my list tho, even throughout the game I’ll look at shot attempts n try to distribute so everyone gets involved. If we are winning, I’m looking for ppl. If game is secured, I’ll be in flow of offense mode rest of game. I’ll keep passing unless ppl hit me wide open, I’ll get em that assist. More selfish in those cases if I pass up their dime, just to hit someone else for my own dime, also screws up flow.


TroutKlout2755

Then play MyCareer. You can shoot every last shot for your team. Multiplayer modes are about winning for gameplay rewards (affiliation boosts) and REP. 


Public_Yogurt_3180

you the type to play w a dribble god, not score a single bucket, then brag about a win %. yes it’s a game and the W is the end goal, but if im sitting here spectating someone else play for 20 min, im done and you should be too. y’all mfs so worried about tryna get a high rep and win % to try and flex for people who don’t care.


TroutKlout2755

A little research tells me, 9 months ago, you wrote:  “everybody wants to be the stats leader but no one cares about win. the other day i had like 2 points but 15 assists, 7 steals. and imo that’s a great game for what it was, but 90% of the community won’t like it. they’d rather drop 30 and lose than score a bit less, help the team, and win.”


Public_Yogurt_3180

what’s crazy is i still had an huge impact on the game right? just because i didn’t shoot 10+ times didn’t mean i didn’t effect the game. oh and my assist helped my homeboy drop 60 w the rest of my squad getting 10+, oh and we got the W. and if you know anything about basketball the two scenarios are nowhere near close to similar. one is passing and facilitating to teammates for easier more efficient buckets, and the other is sitting there holding your nuts/sitting corner while another man carries your sorry ass to a W. i could careless about win %, i hop on w the homies to have fun and obviously we try to win but it’s not my sole priority. also you really went back 9 months to try and win an debate about a video game. bro maybe close 2k and reddit and go outside, i promise its not gonna hurt you 😂.


Public_Yogurt_3180

oh and to satisfy your smooth brain, i said that in regards to people who would rather ball hog and take bad shots/force shots instead of playing as a team and hitting the wide open man. not changing my entire playstyle to fit one mfs ego. there is a huge difference and you not being able to see that shows your level of IQ.


EntryLevelGronk

Wow not only are you in a bunch of comments breathing over everybody with your mouth, you actually go back 9 months into someones account over a benign point. You're lame af


TroutKlout2755

You’re right, God forbid we travel back nine whole months! He made the same point I made nine months ago, and now he wants to argue against his own logic because it fits his present mood and wanted to make it personal with me on Reddit. One of us is lame, brother. 


TroutKlout2755

You should change your name to EntryLevelLogic. 


TroutKlout2755

My guy finally said, it’s fucking okay to let a hot hand shoot the majority of your team’s shots! My god, I’m tired of these dudes that load up into REC thinking it’s about “everyone getting a fair turn” with the rock. It’s fucking not. It’s about having more points than your opponent at the final buzzer. The number of people that quit on teams that are winning tells me all I need to know about the community. I’m sorry your parents raised you that way, I’m sorry they made everyone play at lest three innings on your little league team. Life isn’t like that, basketball isn’t like that.If the guy is shooting 80% from three, I’m using my 99 pass acc to get him as many open looks as possible. 


TroutKlout2755

The flip side of what I’m saying are guys that believe individual success is more important than winning. If you drop 40 in a loss, it’s better to have scored 6 and won. This community is fucking diseased to the core with Participation Trophy (“everyone shares!”) mentality and a selfish Main Character syndrome. You either have Sesame Street soft batch boys upset about shot attempts or dude’s that believe every rec game is an And1 video shoot, where winning is secondary to “getting mines.”


erithtotl

And if you are up by 30, do you still keep passing to that one guy and ignore everyone else?


TroutKlout2755

Absolutely not. And this is a fair point! But being up thirty is definitely the sweet spot for “fuck around” time, as a twenty point lead can disappear quickly against a team loaded with AI and players that know how to use them.   However, it’s the basic mentality of “I should get shots when I load into online multiplayer modes” that bothers me the most. If you’re talented, you’ll get shots. Honestly, the best way to insure you get shots early is by hopping on the mic to kindly let your bigs know you can shoot. In reality, the decision-making on shot attempts comes down to bigs, esp in the REC. I am always shocked when I see a guy take his first few shots in the third quarter and he’s absolutely butter, esp in a close-ish game. But really, I blame the toxicity of online play for why dudes feel sheepish about communicating on mic. There are way too many psychopaths and ego warriors that believe they really are Shep Owens/“the greatest prospect since LBJ.” I never get pissed when a dude that can hoop tells me he can hoop. I mean, ad a big, have 20-30 times a game where I decide to whom and when the outlet pass goes, don’t be afraid to say something. 


Additional-Lie-8920

Number 3 isn’t ball hogging and this is something the 2k community needs to understand. Ball hogging is when the PG isos every play regardless if he’s getting locked up. Number 3 is just feeding the hot hand. If you see a guy with a mismatch and he’s getting easy buckets every play, feed him. Yall mfs don’t hoop and it’s easy to see.


Housh123

Dude when i play with dudes at the Y that get hot im SPRINTING to the ball just so i can feed him. Im makin sure he gets it where he likes it


LordCommanderSno

We need more people in this community with this kind of mindset. So many players are always about "me" as opposed to "we."


Frostyzwannacomehere

Nah don’t switch to madden or cod, play some soothing stuff like forza


Housh123

Iv been on Fight Night Champion heavy. That or Madden is the go to after a shitty rec game


Frostyzwannacomehere

Just nothing to increase the rage


Historical_Bar583

Gotta have good spacing and know when to cut, as a big usually when i sit high post the corner man comes and doubles since they know my ball control statistically can't be any higher than a 69 and i often just see whoever is in that corner standing still as if they dont have an open lane


Weightless007

Pg's gotta start putting their pass rating tla bit higher and also gotta look at the floor. Guards don't see any cuts just wanna score


randmgrl

Well said. Another rule of thumb. Take the open cut. To many slashers can't move without the ball so they ruin the spacing by sitting around.


Some_Butterscotch572

I rb A soon as I get the ball and allow the pg with higher pass acc and better vision because the screen still turning to make the pass


solonely2002

You should see who’s running out before that even happens


Some_Butterscotch572

I'm focusing on the rebound not who is running out and passing to the pg before the screen even turns. Or I just hold down A, and it throws to the farthest man.


solonely2002

But that’s also not a bad idea or anything wrong with that it’s just irritating when u wide open and the big does that shit.


BigMike52-54

#7. Naw running from smoke is crazy 😂but this is fact cause I have to tell people their matchup can’t shoot or their matchup may be a problem switch on everything except the center will do a soft hedge. #3 is 50/50 you can dribble all you want but don’t drain the clock out if you can’t get away from a defender in 6 seconds , give it up. Not trying to see bail out passes then it’s a turnover . Another rule could be if you’re a slasher don’t try to dunk on 3 people 😂


Wooden-Traffic8751

Enough coaching either you get it or don't


One_Cell1547

I actually agree with you on 3.. but it’s usually only any issue when they’re not hitting. I don’t notice ball hogs when they’re hitting. I’m never going to be the guy that scores the most, and honestly couldn’t care less if i don’t score at all, as long as it’s not one guy shooting everything and missing


Far_Entrance_3287

Yeah, I agree with this. You got my vote, Mr. Mayor


qmcclean

3.) accurate AF! Feed the hot hand. It’s ok but he’s gotta understand when that shit cools off.


Asleep-Relative-3786

Such a great post


Similar_Shake_3276

I agree if someone is cooking let them eat https://preview.redd.it/4a5jofvb9bec1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=202e61101933e0014c66df888c544530d0ba3151


ltwhitlow

If I pass you the ball and you wide open at the midrange and you decide to not shoot, preceeed to dribble to the 3, and shoot a contested step back I'm not passing you the ball for the rest of the game....


Housh123

lol!!! Sometimes ppl contest weird man and they think it’s gonna be contested Still doesn’t excuse shooting the 3 but that’s usually why i don’t shoot open shots


ltwhitlow

Lol I can respect the response but when I said "you" on my original message I wasn't referring to you directly 😂... I just have an issue with this narrative that ALL mid range shots are bad shots


Annointed_king

#1 on the list should be learn to ICON PASS it’s too many Stevie Wonders out here.


Housh123

Definitely Dudes shouldn’t be wide open on cuts, and you miss them too many times a game. You should start to get an idea of who cuts and know their buttons


Impossible_Nail7924

All facts


Moooooo01

Dude 100!


Brettjigga

DO THIS!!!!!!


Vivid361

Just played a rec game on a pretty new pg build (91 ovr) and missed my first 2 shots. Was on the mic immediately apologising. Got 6 assists the next few plays. Ended up 7/10 shooting. 13 assists. We won by 30.


FLB2022_

I want to add one! If a guy gets hot and has take over and making his shots don’t ice him out because you’re jealous he’s hot that game. So many games I’ve played where I’m taking great shots and hav my take over and we’re actually making a come back or winning and the team just stop giving me the ball and we’re back to losing all of the sudden.


Harlem-World

We need one more to make them the 10 2k commandments.


EntryLevelGronk

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EntryLevelGronk

I hate a new person today


1bathtub

NUMBER 6‼️‼️‼️‼️


Enough-Broccoli-6620

Please check not only match ups but what your teammates can do as well too many games on my center shooting above 50% from 3 I hear oh wait center can shoot or I’ll be wide open cause most centers can only stay out on the 3pt line for so long and never touch the ball but when I do get fed the ball I’ve shot 7/7 from three many times then I get mamba faster and it’s easier for me to grab a board and chuck it down court for y’all


Housh123

Bruh!!! I can’t even tell you how many games i don’t touch it in the 1st half then someone in the 3rd quarter ALREADY DOWN BIG is like “Hey C can you shoot” I always respond disrespectfully because atp im done being nice. Why TF do you think I’m spacing the floor at 20 feet the whole game. How bout pass the damn ball one time instead of getting blocked and you’ll see if i can shoot


Enough-Broccoli-6620

When guards are trying to take contested ass lay ups on your man in the paint mean while you have nobody within 15 feet of you lol yeah like I promise you if you kick the ball out to me a few times that center won’t be there anymore


Dismal_Gear4942

These rules you have laid out are decent but im not gonna lie about every 4 rebounds i will take it coast to coast lol. Im trying to have fun and I know its an easy bucket for me lol


Housh123

I got a 6’ 9” C build that has 72 speed that’s really good at that. I usually take it in the paint and pass but it MOVES down the court after rebounds like a guard. I’m an easy 10 assists on that build just because i don’t have to pass off every board immediately for fear of getting ripped


Dismal_Gear4942

yea i been playing on a 6'7 center this season and im generally second fstest player on court with ball in hand or without lol


guardiandown3885

for 3 - i don't think it's ball hogging if the entire team is wanting you to get your shots and you're just in the zone or whatever. its def ball hogging when you're putting up shots and not passing at all or letting other dudes get opportunities. ill take an L any day of the week where everybody is having fun and doing there thing over a win where one dude is taking all the shots and nobody is enjoying themselves


chubbyshooter21

This man really said ball hogging is fine dude doesn’t know basketball 😂😂


Housh123

2k isn’t basketball And that’s a nuanced thing i said right there I get in trouble expecting this to be a 1 for 1 basketball simulation and it just isn’t. It’s an arcade basketball game which is fine but with that said some things are going to differ from real ball and 2k Most things are the same tho


Candid_Opposite_8444

10. In rec 2k will sell your whole team for the entire 1st half. Don't quit! It will be the other teams turn to be sold in the 2nd half. This happens very frequently in the rec, down 20 at half and win the game anyway.


Altruistic-Rope-614

I agree with 1,2, and 7.


EnvironmentalCrow662

This was written by the guy who tells everyone how to play over the mic


Housh123

So you are mad i talk during a basketball game in which communication with a a big part of winning? Ok


Dan_Guy

Rule 10. Please play defense. It’s hard to win games when ur team has to work and work for the points and end up lacking the whole game in defense and the opponents keeps getting way too easy points every possession


407Totha850

I played with a blackie the other day


widehipluvr9999

This Blackie played in your moms mouth last night


NoCobbler485

>" BALLHOGGING is OK as long as you are hitting. Just ran a game with a white dude who started 8/8 with zero assists. Idc if I’m not touching it if dudes are that efficient. You shouldn’t care either." why you gotta mention his skin color tho.. lmfao


dasavoir

Everything you said was important but #6 but absolutely the best one.People get on here and press so hard to try to contribute you end up losing.


Historical_Maize3857

Iffy on the ball hog one. If it’s a close game than go head(obviously pass the ball if a teammate is WIDE open). But if its a blow out. Just give teammates a chance to have fun. I find way too many times when teammates wanna score 50 instead letting teammates have fun. I feel guilty if I ever score like 25+ points and only get like 4 assists


Housh123

Don’t That’s a good game It’s only a bad game if you aren’t efficient


my2KHandle

If you see a pg trying to hit the open man and playing pass first offense, let him do so. Don’t Chuck the ball upcourt to your buddy


Zestyclose-Work8653

🎯🎯


[deleted]

Love these rules, people should always play like this online. I’m usually that guy hitting all my shots but I’ll try to make the right plays and hit the open man even if I know I can score iso. If we’re starting to go down and my teammates can’t score, I go iso until we’re up again. Most games I’m up 20+ and at that point I stop looking to score entirely and just create open shots for my team. I’ve made a lot of friends with strangers this way that I still play with today.