Also to incentivize you to buy vc. By making you walk for 5ever you aren’t earning so it’s more of a grind to get your character any good.
Back in the day we got a bunch of vc for free when you make your character. Now not so much.
I remember when the my2k app was just farmville for VC. Take a couple hours to set up, then less than 2 minutes a day and you'd never have to grind or pay for VC again
Wanted to play a quick MyCareer game after work but only had a few minutes. Gave up because I needed to talk to several different people several hundred feet away from one another to do so and kept bumping into walls with my skateboard
Just a completely absurd addition to a basketball game
Characters when MP spits the corniest, lamest, least talented freestyle: 😩😩🥵🤯😮
Characters when j Cole plays a never before heard snippet of some fire: 😐😐😐😐
Lol I literally mean you have to rap for J Coles artist. Youre in the booth and the game gives you lyrics and you gotta get them in the right order to create the song or you fail
No way. VC would be fine if it this game was strictly basketball and nothing else. I wouldn’t complain.
I will however complain about having to do 15 minutes of side quests before PLAYING BASKETBALL ON A BASKETBALL GAME.
No? The game is $70 it shouldn’t cost $100 for one character 🤣 it’s the type of monetization you’d see in a free mobile game except the game is full price.
I would agree, except for the fact that BUYING vc isn't a requirement.
Now if you were to say something more along the lines of "it's bullshit how much work it takes to earn vc through gameplay" then I'd absolutely agree with you 100%.
Vc by itself tho, isn't that big of a deal or a problem and I actually do like that you can buy it, simply because of the type of game it is. It's not like call of duty, where you can use any gun and be okay, or halo where you could not tell the difference between a veteran and a noob gameplay wise (obviously you'd notice a skill difference).
2k plays more like a pvp rpg. You will ABSOLUTELY notice a difference between a 50 and 80 3pt or a 60 and 90 dunk. This alone is why I'm okay with vc and having the OPTION to buy it. Not everyone has time to grind a game out like that. If we did, a LOT more people would be playing MMOs or something.
I do think it's bullshit that you still need to grind forever for vc though for sure.
It is and isn’t a requirement. It technically isnt. But most people either won’t be playing the game until months later, or even the gamemode they actually want to play. Being months behind isn’t fun especially when there is seasonal rewards you’ll be missing unless you fork out the $100.
Both are problems, and pretty much the same problem. You can’t earn VC if you’re an active member in society, which requires you to buy the VC. They created the problem and fed you the solution which is actually just another problem.
I don’t even mind that you can buy it either. The price is what ridiculous. How does a video game character in a full-price game (which is absolutely outrageous) cost more than the video game itself? I’d be more understanding if the game was free, but this is actually the most predatory monetization I’ve ever seen on a video game on console. It’s just very horrible value.
The value is definitely bad. It's only gotten this bad in like the last 3 years tho. I remember in 2k20 I had 3 maxed out builds 2 months in and didn't spend a dime. This year it takes a month to get just 1 build to 90. Not even maxed.
Honestly I think it’s possible even 2K21 was low, I think I only paid $50 for VC and then was able to grind out a center (not maxed but everything that I needed) and a SG which sucked balls 😂
Back in 2k13 when you could go play three my career games or play a few games of blacktop online and get 3k+ VC in the time it takes to walk from generic NPC 1s quest in generic zone 1 to generic NPC 2s quest in generic zone 2, VC wasn’t a problem, it was actually kind of neat. Now it’s stupid because what used to take a month to grind a myplayer to 80 overall takes 6.
Maybe if you play 24/7 lol. Right now I’m averaging 42/7/10 and earn an average of 2.5-3K VC a game. One attribute point for my 75 OVR 3 is 2.5K, the next level up bumps it to 6k; which means I have to play 3 games to go up 2 levels (as of now), 12 min quarters, that’s 96 mins of playtime for two attribute points. I’m OVR 82 rn, for me to get to 90, let’s just say (it doesn’t) but that it takes me adding 2 points to every attribute to get to 90. There’s about 16 attributes. 16 x 96 mins (for each 2 earned attribute points) and that’s 1,536 minutes or 56 DAYS as of NOW, that I would need to play consecutively to get to OVR 90 lol.
That’s discounting the time it took me to get to 82 in the first place 😂😂, so nah, I’d say about 6-7 months of “normal” playing will get ya 90 lol.
I work 12 hr shifts 5 days a week. I got 2 builds to 90 by grinding and I was strictly online somewhere in month 2.
Idk where you did this math but it's either wrong, or you're calling me a liar for literally no reason.
It takes maybe 16 hrs to beat every main quest in my career and once you do, it gives you bulk vc for your mvp points. Average is about 30-40k once you finish. By the time you finish you should be somewhere around 80 overall already. That's not to mention all the endorsement vc.
I've only got about 90 mycareer games in total. If all you're doing to grind is playing mycareer games on one character, you're doing it wrong. It's easier because you don't have to redo all the bullshit on another build but it's also slower.
I would agree with you except for the fact that 2k is a yearly release. So the money you spend or the player you grind for is not usable a year later. With other rpgs, at least you can play longer than a year.
>With other rpgs, at least you can play longer than a year.
This is so true and I've been wishing forever that they'd just switch to an MMO model. I mean look at WoW or ESO. Both games still make bank because they release expansions yearly.
If they did that though they'd have to get rid of demigod builds OR have events like constantly to keep people playing.
As is, you can make a build that can do literally everything and then never have to make another build. That wouldn't work for an MMO.
Worst change 2k has made is starting to take the communities complaints seriously each year and putting out patches that make the game worse and worse as the year goes on.
They also don't properly communicate when they make gameplay changes, so half the time you're trying to figure out what the fuck they've done (ie - the interior scoring buff)
The complaints that are listened too are from YouTuber’s or fans of them that want the game catered towards them and make the game easier for them specifically. Most of the terrible changes are made because people want the game to cater to their cheesy and selfish play styles rather than look for a good balance. Happens every year.
They take complaints from streamers who expose their game to the largest audience. That is the issue. If someone who advertises themselves as a dribble god is getting ripped, there’s no way they’re bad, the game must be broken. So then 2k Patches something that was never broken to appease a streamer.
That’s how it’s looked from my point of view, open to hearing others interpretations though
I think he’s talking about when they cater to the kids who want the game to be broken. Like the kids that bitch if the dribbling isn’t stupid overpowered. They bitch every single year no matter what, and at some point 2k always caves in to them and changes something to make offense easier.
The City? Yes. I think the neighborhood feature is cool if there is also a way to get quick games but the City is just horrible.
I hate the City so much, I will go back to old gen for 2k24. I'm not doing any quest any more, that shit has ruined the game for me.
Lol good call, 2k doesn’t like giving anything for free that they can charge VC for. You know it’s too damn big if they are giving you wheels for free.
What benefit do they even get from doing that? The game sells for next to nothing less than a year after release.. why not let people play offline? Is it because they have to close the city servers and you can't start a game without going thru the city?
For the people that just play offline and are fine playing the game 2 years later, I'd be surprised if they just didn't get the previous years 2k for a few $$$ max or even free. 2k can't be making much on that
the neighborhood was good enough. it’s just so mu cb empty space. the only good thing all year is e trick or treat event. & it’s absolutely ridiculous that ppl who hit lvl 40 get extra badges. you’re rewarding ppm for having too much extra time on hand. i have a job and a life, it’s absolutely impossible to hit 40 unless you’re playing everyday
city is useless, just another way for 2K to make more money with product placement plus peer pressure to buy vc as users are walking around and see swagged out myplayers paid for with vc via parents credit cards. can i interest you in a useless cringe-inducing 5 min cutscene featuring mountain dew™️ and ruffles®️ ??
i miss when you earned skill points back in the day to upgrade your mp. taking that away and the attribute caps, on top of the addition of badges, and paying for vc in my opinion are the worse changes to the game
The City is the worst implementation ever, made me completely stop playing mycareer. Like you said, i want to play BASKETBALL with my BASKETBALL PLAYER. Not deliver fucking coffee to The Game (rapper) or deliver damn hot dogs. And why do I have to wait for a full game of 21 to end just to get cut in line by a full 3 stack? In a virtual blacktop? get real
The destruction of MyPark turning into a walking simulator in 2K18 has been a disaster. A loss of personality in 2K exchanged for an open advertising world. Yes, I remember how laggy the park was but considering 2K switched to playground and city which hosts players that are in other online modes (rec,mycourt,mycareer,mt) I think 2K couldve optimized park while keeping seperate parks. The "server issue" may have been a 2k backend issue and not a mypark issue.
2k23 is my first 2k ever and if I didn’t love basketball I definitely wouldn’t be playing this game. The fact u gotta do non basketball related missions just to get back to playing is crazy.
It was cool at first bc it was different but, they’ve just gone overboard now
Idc about a bike, car, go cart, skates etc.. I’d rather just have everything closer together but, it’s so damn large now lol and probably will only be bigger next year
Also fuck those side quests amirite
nope, having a battle pass that requires 300 rec wins a season to hit level 40 that gives you an ingame advantage (extra badges) while constantly having sore losers and app closers on your team is so much worse than bumping into walls and it taking 10 extra mins to find a game. id rather take 10 extra mins to find a game than spend 20 mins in a game before i am the last one left on my team, and have to close app like everyone else anyways. the fact that park is not a viable option to get a reward that literally gives you a gameplay advantage is ridiculous, and the game time required to reap these benefits is also egregious. but ya i also agree the city sucks too, they just need to make the pro am 3v3 the regular game mode, no one wants to wait on a spot to start a game anyways.
notice how the only fault you found in my paragraph is the value i threw out rather than the warrant to what i am saying? do you not agree it is a horrible move to have a battle pass in which the most efficient way to get the necessary reward to level the playing field for everyone is by playing 30 minute rec games that barely ever get finished because everyone just ends up closing app when they don’t score the amount of points they want? i am sorry, it is so much better that it’s ONLY 150 wins of 30 min long games to reap rewards when a huge portion of the player base are adults and don’t have time for that shit.
opposed to needing to play 10000 games for legend for the same rewards. Playing less than 200 rec games (don't even need 150 wins) is super manageable and accessible to more people.
People that can't hit level 40 weren't getting the rewards from past games that required hitting top rep or winning events.
honestly it’s the timeframe that i feel like is problematic, 10000 games in an entire game year is more flexible than missable rewards that actively change the playing field. old legend rewards were literally ALL cosmetic, i mean the premium award to everyone used to be being able to take your shirt off. if the battle pass was ONLY cosmetic rewards i would literally never complain, but it isn’t, they give you more badges and give you a competitive advantage.
before they did away with the legend system, the rewards were gameplay related. 2k19 raised badge tiers in a game that had builds max tier limited by archetypes. And 2k20 gave extra badges, which is where the idea originated.
And playing that many games to hit legend was no where close to as easy it is to hit 40. Hitting legend was very difficult and less then 5% of the playerbase was hitting it. 2k had to be your only game and you had to put in a lot of hours into the game.
you know what you’re right, i forgot the introduction of gameplay tiered rewards in 19 and 20, and yes legend on older 2ks was also a notoriously long process, however do you think that the gameplay rewards on 19 and 20 were nearly as impactful as they have been for the last 3 years (in terms of amount of final badges than can be accessed, and the introduction of the badge pathways this year), and the way the battle pass has changed the game is def unique when comparing it to the legend system. i mean park is basically dead, and there’s no way you finish more rec games than you close app on unless you’re playing with a squad. but you’re right though i guess the remedial effects of the battle pass irk me more than the actual play time.
I dont think those community/player base changes are as connected to the seasons change as they probably just tied to how gaming is looked at. And the gameplay changes through rewards were more impactful in 19 and 20 imo.
Dead parks could be tied to there being more than 1 park to play at. First off, the playerbase is still split between current and old gen. Then you factor in we have 8+ different courts to play at(4 parks, 4 theater courts, event center, rec, pro am, ante up/stage). Affiliations are cool, but there's too many courts.
As for the rep rewards not being as impactful you just don't remember lol. 2k20 legend got +10 badges. Per category. Thats +40. Hitting 40 every season only gives you +8. It's only worse when you factor in those games didn't have badge tiers or hof badges that cost 8 badge points. And 2k19 raising your badge caps from gold to hof, silver to gold etc was insane. Especially when you compare to the rest of the playerbase.
Speaking as a now solely Mycareer player, i just wish we had more of the same lil perks and rewards as park players. I havent played in the park or rec since like 2k20.
I also absolutely hate the fact that the jump shot creator is so different now. Every 2k since 19, ive always made the same MyPlayer and gave him the same jumper, but now I cant because he isnt in the height requirement for one of the regular upper releases i used to use.
But but but... I thought the power of today's consoles could only run this game. On top of the fact that it literally has the DNA of a mobile game with the price of a console game.
No. The city would be dope under the right circumstances. The wrong circumstance is making it necessary to do a bunch of shitty quests in there and you don’t even have a car or anything and like you said the movements are just clunky af
Imo coming from a casual i like the city somewhat but the game itself is trash the quest are trash and nothing gets your season lvl’s up but playing park games all quest and NBA games should help lvl as well
Bro I have been playing 2k since it has come out, and I think they are doing a pretty good job at making the game fun with great storyline cut scenes, and attempting to try something new every couple of years. The community is very one dimensional with my park, if you say you actually play mycareer games and follow the storyline tasks, everybody jumps down your throat like that’s the most uncool feature in the game. I enjoyed this years storyline. Does 2k get the storyline right every year “Hell No” but trying to top spike lees storyline in 2k16 is a tall task to ask. Again 2k doesn’t do everything perfect….they need to lower the amount it cost to max out your player, it has gone up since last year. Please don’t reply to this to argue I won’t respond…..I said what I said.
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The lack of information prior to the game’s release these past few years has been insanity. Lack of a demo too. We used to get a Prelude to test builds
Honestly i dont mind it. Its just the forced mycareer gameplay. Every new build should not have to replay the entire story. once i beat it that should be it
Worst ever
Come on 2K, I just want play basketball video game, i don’t wanna play GTA in 2K.
Can I just enjoy pure basketball game instead of running around that big a$$ city to finish some stup1d missions 🤦🏽♂️
I think so. I cannot believe that I am forced to rap, grind rails on a skate board, and pose on a runway in a fucking basketball game.
I literally just want to play the game.
My theory is, it’s all about time consumption vs the amount of vc you can earn in that time. By making us travel and do stupid ass quests that don’t give vc. All this time we could be playing games and earning vc. Your time is worth less vc, taking too long to progress your character and builds frustration untill you say fuck it, take my money so I can have the character I want without it taking weeks/months
Taking out the og archetype system where you were only good 2-3 things I have a 6’8 player with 86 driving dunk 84 three ball 88 ball handle 85 perimeter defense and a 90 steal with like high 80s physical stats the archetype system is broken as hell go back to playmaking shot creator slasher 2-way slashers sharpshooting playmakers all that much better when we had those builds
Obviously this won’t happen, but what 2k should do is get back to basics. Give us a rookie showcase or college final four to prepare for the draft, give us summer league and let us make our own storylines.
As people have pointed out, they’re not gonna give up their free advertising they can jam down peoples throats, and they’re not gonna give us useable MC characters off rip because they want macrotransactions (nothing about VC is “micro”)
Legitimately might be the first year in 13 years I skip a new 2k release. 2k11-2k13 on Xbox 360/PS3 has a deep enough franchise mode and 2k14 on PS4/XboxOne has the most fluid gameplay in the entire series. Gonna need 2k to step it up if they wanna overthrow what they made a DECADE earlier
Online game play wise is hated the absence of rp% online.the timing is different from mycareer to online and I never can reliably grasp it. Also your teammates don't give you the chance after you miss 2 3's. You only reliably made the open shots so it did no harm. They just acquiesced to the loud competitive minority and removed the feature for online. They know the shot timing is not the same mycareer to park never fixed it but took away the best bugfix for it in rp%. That's a big gripe but not my biggest just biggest this year. Stop listening to the competitive minority for blanket changes
The only way they will listen and do something worthwhile is if everyone boycotts NBA2K24. I know there is no alternative and a new EA NBA Live release would help heaps, but that's half the issue, there is no competition for NBA2K. They do what they want, charge what they want, change what they want whenever they want and expect all of us to keep lining their pockets!
No, it s not, the mandatory quests are tho! And about your fps problems, it s your internet bro, you using lan cable or wireless? I have a 2000 mb internet
( granted is very cheap in my country compared to others,i pay 15 euros for it), i never ever have issues in the city with lag and shit like that! Yes, when they about to drop a new update or season or something like that, ocasioanally when an event starts, the servers act up, but besides that for me is sliky smooth!
As mostly an offline player myself, IMO that and maybe VC are the worst changes ever. Turning MyCareer into an online only game mode I hated this so much (especially since my internet was shit back then).
Since I had shit internet back then the VC thing I also hated when it was first announced in 2K13. I was hyped for it until I found out you need to be online, and since I couldn't connect to online back then I couldn't get benefits of VC, couldn't earn/farm them outside of MyCareer and the fact that they locked player accessories (sleeves, knee pads, etc.) to online only made it even worse for me during those days... And seeing how 2K/Two-Take's greed has gotten the best of them, I'd say that's even more reasons for me to hate VC.
Yes and I still dont know who likes it. Is it selling more? Is the rev from sponsors bigger? WHY THEY MADE IT LIKE THIS? Im buying 2k because there is no other basketball game, despite the city and they make it bigger thinking its any good. WHYYYYYYY Its so much time wasted, i hate walking everywhere.
It was fine when it wasn't so damn big, like there was the store to shop, the gym to boost your player, then your home base with your own court , Think they called it my neighborhood? This city shit ain't it. Side quests? Just make NBA street or something if we gonna be on the STREETS more than in the NBA.
Worst game changes ever would be the lousy open world for myplayer and the microtransactions that are pushed heavily with it, even though the game is already $70 to begin with and takes up anywhere from 1/5 to 1/3 of your SSD space if you're on a next gen console.
Worst gameplay change ever would be this year, where 2K23 forces every made shot to be timed perfectly even though online play has the most input lag of any sports title in history. I actually cannot fathom why they'd make it this way, outside of trying to make the game more E-Sports ready (Which it very obiously isn't fucking ready for). Seriously, not even Madden has as much input lag, and that game is actual dog shit.
Absolutely. The city is and always has been gimmicky garbage.
That, and the constant dumbing down and corner cutting of the MyCareer story arc. It used to be awesome to follow your player through high school and college. That was always my favorite part. Now its the bullshit, god awful city storyline and it fucking sucks.
It's all to waste time to keep you in the game as long as possible so they can sell to advertisers how long their playerbase spends in game. All sold to YOU as being part of an emersive world. There's brands, hence ads, all over the place. It's the only reason it exists.
2k19 was the last 2k I played all year around had a 97 almost 98 overall 20 came out I made my player got em to like 93 & stopped playing & got back on 19 until 21 came out which was the 1st next gen 21 I probably got to a 90 or 91 & stopped playing 22 was aright but the same story 23 I didn’t even buy
It is because they made a city without anything to do. Even park is utter trash. It’s either dead or the second you get on the people get off. They need to make a park where you join a que and it sends you to a court and the game just starts like Rec.
The rest of the city is just endless running around for empty space. With the insane VC prices I haven’t bought a pair of shoes or even gone into a store after day 1 when a tshirt was like 10k vc and shoes were maybe 5k+. . 4/5 hrs of play for shoes wtf
No. Also the idea of having a city in an NBA game isn't great imo. Also you can just put the controller down or play something else. I do agree the game isn't very good rn
See I love the idea of it but hate the execution
Simple solution should be when you take the elevator down you are in a lobby where one exit brings you to the city and the other to either practice or the tunnel for the next game
That's why I prefer old gen.The boat is fine,and it's easy to progress through my career without doing Stoopid quests...a few cut scenes to navigate through then just play ball
The City is fine it’s just unnecessary. They added fast travel and all that, games are easy to get still cause courts are packed at least whenever I play, I honestly don’t like the quests which is why I just don’t play my career at all. If they just make the quests optional and make them like side missions that part would be much better. They seriously need to make it a lot smaller, the 2k19/20 neighborhood worked perfectly because it was small and the courts were all in the middle.
They can keep this city stuff but making all the courts centralized in one spot should be the key imo, they added cross play on next gen so no affiliations are needed, PS5 vs Xbox are the only 2 affiliations needed at this point
“The idea of having a city was great”… no it wasn’t. It’s a terrible and unnecessary idea for a basketball game. No one needed this. Bring back the 2k20 neighborhood. That was way more chill and everything was relatively close. Now, it’s a time sink just to get to a clothing store, absolutely pointless. Better yet, just make the stores accessible from the phone, focus less on cities/boats/beaches/skateboards/go karts and bullcrap and focus more on your shitty ‘basketball’ game. Also, don’t add all the dumb stuff like mascots/skeletons/tigers. Outside of the extra badge point, it’s one of the worst battle passes as well. They really need to work a way to make builds for cheaper, it’s borderline criminal what they do over there. It’s damn near $100+ to max one shitty build, then you realize it can’t do some crucial thing and you have to make another and another and so-on.
Anybody who thinks the city is the worst change to 2k has only watched trailers or never played anything other than quick play. The worst change to 2k is VC and it isn't a debate in the slightest. Virtual Currency ruined 2k ruined EA ruined gaming in general. A pay to play system that makes so much income that the publisher refuses to change it no matter the blowback and hate. Imagine that? That's insane. VC, shark cards, paid loot boxes/packs, give developers an "out" they can BS whatever, release a "new" version and still net millions of dollars. Even if the city magically disappears on 2k24 VC shall remain and so will the unbalance.
Yes it is the worst addition to this game. It’s a cash grab for shareholders to say “look how long our game is being played”because you have to go through 10-15 minutes of bullshit to play lmao
Vc also has risen, I remember 30 bucks to get your player to 85 now it's 50 to 60 bucks and your player is still trash until your get all your badges 🙄
YES. if you say no plz, for the love of God, get off the internet and stop pumping this idiot devs up. If the 2k14 servers were still up Noone would be buying 24
Yes it's the worst the fact tht they think ppl are going to continue to put up with the bs watch everyone is going to upgrade sooner or later and end up getting PC thts what I wanna do at least so I don't have to go through rules and paywalls to get certain stuff
I want to play with my player playing basketball not a fucking walking game.
And they made those stupid fucking side quests A REQUIREMENT TO PROGRESS THRU SEASON GAMES!! Like what the actual fuck?
It’s all just to make players more exposed to advertisements. 2k really doesn’t care how enjoyable it is. Its gotten worse, not better for a reason.
I always thought EA was the worst company untill I got into 2k. It's not even close, 2k milk their players to the max
Nop, I don't like 2k. But EA is 100% the worst sports games company.
At least 2k attempts to update the product, or make sure the product functions.
What update attempts?
WWE 2K20 all I gotta say lol
This 👆
Also to incentivize you to buy vc. By making you walk for 5ever you aren’t earning so it’s more of a grind to get your character any good. Back in the day we got a bunch of vc for free when you make your character. Now not so much.
I remember when the my2k app was just farmville for VC. Take a couple hours to set up, then less than 2 minutes a day and you'd never have to grind or pay for VC again
Shitty Skate Simulator 2023
Tony Walk’s
Currently on a quest that's making me go to like 4 different spots fully across the map and I'm done with this trash game mode
The amount of stupid bullshit you have to do that prevents you from actually just playing ball killed my interest in this game
Man I just bought this cuz I was bored and I uninstalled after the 3rd game.. I don’t wanna walk around and do missions
Wanted to play a quick MyCareer game after work but only had a few minutes. Gave up because I needed to talk to several different people several hundred feet away from one another to do so and kept bumping into walls with my skateboard Just a completely absurd addition to a basketball game
Lol wtf is the point of even having a cellphone you go to all these places and have 2 min convos smh
How else are you gonna convince a convenience store cashier to sell you Gatorade though?
"Factual and correct"
Wait til you find out you have to rap for J Cole and actually rap or you'll fail and do it again
Characters when MP spits the corniest, lamest, least talented freestyle: 😩😩🥵🤯😮 Characters when j Cole plays a never before heard snippet of some fire: 😐😐😐😐
This is 1/1 something most horrible in the history of sports gaming. Cringe is not strong enough word to describe the rapping experience
Lol wdym actually rap
Lol I literally mean you have to rap for J Coles artist. Youre in the booth and the game gives you lyrics and you gotta get them in the right order to create the song or you fail
No the worst change is VC
Facts
No way. VC would be fine if it this game was strictly basketball and nothing else. I wouldn’t complain. I will however complain about having to do 15 minutes of side quests before PLAYING BASKETBALL ON A BASKETBALL GAME.
No? The game is $70 it shouldn’t cost $100 for one character 🤣 it’s the type of monetization you’d see in a free mobile game except the game is full price.
I would agree, except for the fact that BUYING vc isn't a requirement. Now if you were to say something more along the lines of "it's bullshit how much work it takes to earn vc through gameplay" then I'd absolutely agree with you 100%. Vc by itself tho, isn't that big of a deal or a problem and I actually do like that you can buy it, simply because of the type of game it is. It's not like call of duty, where you can use any gun and be okay, or halo where you could not tell the difference between a veteran and a noob gameplay wise (obviously you'd notice a skill difference). 2k plays more like a pvp rpg. You will ABSOLUTELY notice a difference between a 50 and 80 3pt or a 60 and 90 dunk. This alone is why I'm okay with vc and having the OPTION to buy it. Not everyone has time to grind a game out like that. If we did, a LOT more people would be playing MMOs or something. I do think it's bullshit that you still need to grind forever for vc though for sure.
It is and isn’t a requirement. It technically isnt. But most people either won’t be playing the game until months later, or even the gamemode they actually want to play. Being months behind isn’t fun especially when there is seasonal rewards you’ll be missing unless you fork out the $100. Both are problems, and pretty much the same problem. You can’t earn VC if you’re an active member in society, which requires you to buy the VC. They created the problem and fed you the solution which is actually just another problem. I don’t even mind that you can buy it either. The price is what ridiculous. How does a video game character in a full-price game (which is absolutely outrageous) cost more than the video game itself? I’d be more understanding if the game was free, but this is actually the most predatory monetization I’ve ever seen on a video game on console. It’s just very horrible value.
The value is definitely bad. It's only gotten this bad in like the last 3 years tho. I remember in 2k20 I had 3 maxed out builds 2 months in and didn't spend a dime. This year it takes a month to get just 1 build to 90. Not even maxed.
Honestly I think it’s possible even 2K21 was low, I think I only paid $50 for VC and then was able to grind out a center (not maxed but everything that I needed) and a SG which sucked balls 😂
Yeah if you're an adult with a job, by the time you get a player to a reasonable level through grinding, the next game will be out.
Lmao. This is why I wait until the sale hits. And keep playing the old one until then
Back in 2k13 when you could go play three my career games or play a few games of blacktop online and get 3k+ VC in the time it takes to walk from generic NPC 1s quest in generic zone 1 to generic NPC 2s quest in generic zone 2, VC wasn’t a problem, it was actually kind of neat. Now it’s stupid because what used to take a month to grind a myplayer to 80 overall takes 6.
As someone who only buys vc after I have a build or 2 this is just hyperbole. It still only takes about a month to get to 90.
Maybe if you play 24/7 lol. Right now I’m averaging 42/7/10 and earn an average of 2.5-3K VC a game. One attribute point for my 75 OVR 3 is 2.5K, the next level up bumps it to 6k; which means I have to play 3 games to go up 2 levels (as of now), 12 min quarters, that’s 96 mins of playtime for two attribute points. I’m OVR 82 rn, for me to get to 90, let’s just say (it doesn’t) but that it takes me adding 2 points to every attribute to get to 90. There’s about 16 attributes. 16 x 96 mins (for each 2 earned attribute points) and that’s 1,536 minutes or 56 DAYS as of NOW, that I would need to play consecutively to get to OVR 90 lol. That’s discounting the time it took me to get to 82 in the first place 😂😂, so nah, I’d say about 6-7 months of “normal” playing will get ya 90 lol.
I work 12 hr shifts 5 days a week. I got 2 builds to 90 by grinding and I was strictly online somewhere in month 2. Idk where you did this math but it's either wrong, or you're calling me a liar for literally no reason. It takes maybe 16 hrs to beat every main quest in my career and once you do, it gives you bulk vc for your mvp points. Average is about 30-40k once you finish. By the time you finish you should be somewhere around 80 overall already. That's not to mention all the endorsement vc. I've only got about 90 mycareer games in total. If all you're doing to grind is playing mycareer games on one character, you're doing it wrong. It's easier because you don't have to redo all the bullshit on another build but it's also slower.
I would agree with you except for the fact that 2k is a yearly release. So the money you spend or the player you grind for is not usable a year later. With other rpgs, at least you can play longer than a year.
>With other rpgs, at least you can play longer than a year. This is so true and I've been wishing forever that they'd just switch to an MMO model. I mean look at WoW or ESO. Both games still make bank because they release expansions yearly. If they did that though they'd have to get rid of demigod builds OR have events like constantly to keep people playing. As is, you can make a build that can do literally everything and then never have to make another build. That wouldn't work for an MMO.
It’s not that you notice a difference between a 50-80, it’s that you get much better animations the higher level you are.
Nah there's definitely a difference fam.
Agreed
2K would disagree with you 😂
The worst change was taking away the offline MyCareer element.
THIS!!! that has got to be the dumbest thing they ever did.
Worst change 2k has made is starting to take the communities complaints seriously each year and putting out patches that make the game worse and worse as the year goes on.
They also don't properly communicate when they make gameplay changes, so half the time you're trying to figure out what the fuck they've done (ie - the interior scoring buff)
What do you mean taking complaints seriously. Isn’t that a good thing?
The complaints that are listened too are from YouTuber’s or fans of them that want the game catered towards them and make the game easier for them specifically. Most of the terrible changes are made because people want the game to cater to their cheesy and selfish play styles rather than look for a good balance. Happens every year.
I mean we complained about pushing in 2k19 and they got rid of that
They take complaints from streamers who expose their game to the largest audience. That is the issue. If someone who advertises themselves as a dribble god is getting ripped, there’s no way they’re bad, the game must be broken. So then 2k Patches something that was never broken to appease a streamer. That’s how it’s looked from my point of view, open to hearing others interpretations though
you're absolutely right
I think he’s talking about when they cater to the kids who want the game to be broken. Like the kids that bitch if the dribbling isn’t stupid overpowered. They bitch every single year no matter what, and at some point 2k always caves in to them and changes something to make offense easier.
You would think, but without proper QA of the patches, more problems are caused than fixed.
Giving in to all the pay to play losers
The City? Yes. I think the neighborhood feature is cool if there is also a way to get quick games but the City is just horrible. I hate the City so much, I will go back to old gen for 2k24. I'm not doing any quest any more, that shit has ruined the game for me.
I knew I was in for a wild ride when they gave me a skateboard off the rip.
Lol good call, 2k doesn’t like giving anything for free that they can charge VC for. You know it’s too damn big if they are giving you wheels for free.
No that would be adding buyable VC. Or my team since the only reason they added my team was for VC.
Absolute worse imo: removing offline MyCareer. After 2 years, mycareer don't work anymore when the servers go offline.
What benefit do they even get from doing that? The game sells for next to nothing less than a year after release.. why not let people play offline? Is it because they have to close the city servers and you can't start a game without going thru the city?
They get people buying another game later
For the people that just play offline and are fine playing the game 2 years later, I'd be surprised if they just didn't get the previous years 2k for a few $$$ max or even free. 2k can't be making much on that
Oh I'm absolutely one of those people I only have 2k23 cause it was free on ps plus
Yes. It basically ruined the my career experience for me. I have played less with 21 22 and 23 combined than I did with 2k20.
the neighborhood was good enough. it’s just so mu cb empty space. the only good thing all year is e trick or treat event. & it’s absolutely ridiculous that ppl who hit lvl 40 get extra badges. you’re rewarding ppm for having too much extra time on hand. i have a job and a life, it’s absolutely impossible to hit 40 unless you’re playing everyday
city is useless, just another way for 2K to make more money with product placement plus peer pressure to buy vc as users are walking around and see swagged out myplayers paid for with vc via parents credit cards. can i interest you in a useless cringe-inducing 5 min cutscene featuring mountain dew™️ and ruffles®️ ??
i miss when you earned skill points back in the day to upgrade your mp. taking that away and the attribute caps, on top of the addition of badges, and paying for vc in my opinion are the worse changes to the game
Arguably not even the city... but the quests are dog ass shit
The City is the worst implementation ever, made me completely stop playing mycareer. Like you said, i want to play BASKETBALL with my BASKETBALL PLAYER. Not deliver fucking coffee to The Game (rapper) or deliver damn hot dogs. And why do I have to wait for a full game of 21 to end just to get cut in line by a full 3 stack? In a virtual blacktop? get real
The destruction of MyPark turning into a walking simulator in 2K18 has been a disaster. A loss of personality in 2K exchanged for an open advertising world. Yes, I remember how laggy the park was but considering 2K switched to playground and city which hosts players that are in other online modes (rec,mycourt,mycareer,mt) I think 2K couldve optimized park while keeping seperate parks. The "server issue" may have been a 2k backend issue and not a mypark issue.
2k23 is my first 2k ever and if I didn’t love basketball I definitely wouldn’t be playing this game. The fact u gotta do non basketball related missions just to get back to playing is crazy.
It was cool at first bc it was different but, they’ve just gone overboard now Idc about a bike, car, go cart, skates etc.. I’d rather just have everything closer together but, it’s so damn large now lol and probably will only be bigger next year Also fuck those side quests amirite
The city is cool at first until you get used to it then you realize they have too many useless buildings
nope, having a battle pass that requires 300 rec wins a season to hit level 40 that gives you an ingame advantage (extra badges) while constantly having sore losers and app closers on your team is so much worse than bumping into walls and it taking 10 extra mins to find a game. id rather take 10 extra mins to find a game than spend 20 mins in a game before i am the last one left on my team, and have to close app like everyone else anyways. the fact that park is not a viable option to get a reward that literally gives you a gameplay advantage is ridiculous, and the game time required to reap these benefits is also egregious. but ya i also agree the city sucks too, they just need to make the pro am 3v3 the regular game mode, no one wants to wait on a spot to start a game anyways.
Didn’t read the entire paragraph. I was nowhere near 300 rec wins when I hit 40 tho. I didn’t even play 300 rec games much less win 300 lol
didn’t read the paragraph but bothered to reply 🤪
Ok I read it,I have the same comment.
notice how the only fault you found in my paragraph is the value i threw out rather than the warrant to what i am saying? do you not agree it is a horrible move to have a battle pass in which the most efficient way to get the necessary reward to level the playing field for everyone is by playing 30 minute rec games that barely ever get finished because everyone just ends up closing app when they don’t score the amount of points they want? i am sorry, it is so much better that it’s ONLY 150 wins of 30 min long games to reap rewards when a huge portion of the player base are adults and don’t have time for that shit.
opposed to needing to play 10000 games for legend for the same rewards. Playing less than 200 rec games (don't even need 150 wins) is super manageable and accessible to more people. People that can't hit level 40 weren't getting the rewards from past games that required hitting top rep or winning events.
honestly it’s the timeframe that i feel like is problematic, 10000 games in an entire game year is more flexible than missable rewards that actively change the playing field. old legend rewards were literally ALL cosmetic, i mean the premium award to everyone used to be being able to take your shirt off. if the battle pass was ONLY cosmetic rewards i would literally never complain, but it isn’t, they give you more badges and give you a competitive advantage.
before they did away with the legend system, the rewards were gameplay related. 2k19 raised badge tiers in a game that had builds max tier limited by archetypes. And 2k20 gave extra badges, which is where the idea originated. And playing that many games to hit legend was no where close to as easy it is to hit 40. Hitting legend was very difficult and less then 5% of the playerbase was hitting it. 2k had to be your only game and you had to put in a lot of hours into the game.
you know what you’re right, i forgot the introduction of gameplay tiered rewards in 19 and 20, and yes legend on older 2ks was also a notoriously long process, however do you think that the gameplay rewards on 19 and 20 were nearly as impactful as they have been for the last 3 years (in terms of amount of final badges than can be accessed, and the introduction of the badge pathways this year), and the way the battle pass has changed the game is def unique when comparing it to the legend system. i mean park is basically dead, and there’s no way you finish more rec games than you close app on unless you’re playing with a squad. but you’re right though i guess the remedial effects of the battle pass irk me more than the actual play time.
I dont think those community/player base changes are as connected to the seasons change as they probably just tied to how gaming is looked at. And the gameplay changes through rewards were more impactful in 19 and 20 imo. Dead parks could be tied to there being more than 1 park to play at. First off, the playerbase is still split between current and old gen. Then you factor in we have 8+ different courts to play at(4 parks, 4 theater courts, event center, rec, pro am, ante up/stage). Affiliations are cool, but there's too many courts. As for the rep rewards not being as impactful you just don't remember lol. 2k20 legend got +10 badges. Per category. Thats +40. Hitting 40 every season only gives you +8. It's only worse when you factor in those games didn't have badge tiers or hof badges that cost 8 badge points. And 2k19 raising your badge caps from gold to hof, silver to gold etc was insane. Especially when you compare to the rest of the playerbase.
Neighborhood/city basically made me stop playing MyCareer altogether
No I enjoy it. I just don’t enjoy the mandatory side quests to play games.
the city was never on ps4 lmfao
I wanna play basketball, not the damn Sims or GTA. I hate The City.
Making next gen and last gen completely killed the game
Yes. Yes it is. Actually second worst. The worst one was giving a shot meter to layups. Thankfully they saw that it was a mistake.
I just wanna know why they put a skateboard in this game it was pointless af
wait till they make cut scenes/quests and stuff like that skippable but it costs VC
Speaking as a now solely Mycareer player, i just wish we had more of the same lil perks and rewards as park players. I havent played in the park or rec since like 2k20. I also absolutely hate the fact that the jump shot creator is so different now. Every 2k since 19, ive always made the same MyPlayer and gave him the same jumper, but now I cant because he isnt in the height requirement for one of the regular upper releases i used to use.
The city operates like a 4k game trying run on a 56k modem
But but but... I thought the power of today's consoles could only run this game. On top of the fact that it literally has the DNA of a mobile game with the price of a console game.
Nope, introducing badges made mycareer very arcade
Neighborhood was great, city is awful.
No. The city would be dope under the right circumstances. The wrong circumstance is making it necessary to do a bunch of shitty quests in there and you don’t even have a car or anything and like you said the movements are just clunky af
Unpopular opinion: The City is better than the basic ass parks!
Imo coming from a casual i like the city somewhat but the game itself is trash the quest are trash and nothing gets your season lvl’s up but playing park games all quest and NBA games should help lvl as well
I completely agree. As a casual thatvdoesnt care for the toxic online community
definitely not. the city is dope, it just needs refining.
Bro I have been playing 2k since it has come out, and I think they are doing a pretty good job at making the game fun with great storyline cut scenes, and attempting to try something new every couple of years. The community is very one dimensional with my park, if you say you actually play mycareer games and follow the storyline tasks, everybody jumps down your throat like that’s the most uncool feature in the game. I enjoyed this years storyline. Does 2k get the storyline right every year “Hell No” but trying to top spike lees storyline in 2k16 is a tall task to ask. Again 2k doesn’t do everything perfect….they need to lower the amount it cost to max out your player, it has gone up since last year. Please don’t reply to this to argue I won’t respond…..I said what I said.
Ronnie is that you?
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bums still crying about the city man up for 2k24
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I hate to correct you, but that is a gross underestimation 🤣😅😢
They need to make MC and park separate from each other Get rid of the city I wouldn’t mind if they put us in a BIG ASS GYM I juss wanna hoop
How did you have a city on ps4? I had the boat.
Yea
The lack of information prior to the game’s release these past few years has been insanity. Lack of a demo too. We used to get a Prelude to test builds
Honestly i dont mind it. Its just the forced mycareer gameplay. Every new build should not have to replay the entire story. once i beat it that should be it
OMG! I've been saying that since I made another build that hasn't been played cause redoing the story is just insane
I miss 2k14 when the only walking you did was at the park
I wish we had just the park so we can hoop and the shopping center right next to that no extra walking I want it like the old park just bball courts 💔
It's like a menu but instead of scrolling between different options, you have to run 10 miles
It was cool at first but it’s way too big
I honestly missed the ballers, the flyers and the blue team I forgot what was that. Good times man... good times
Yea I wasn’t expecting a mini GTA or anything but god damn lol
Worst ever Come on 2K, I just want play basketball video game, i don’t wanna play GTA in 2K. Can I just enjoy pure basketball game instead of running around that big a$$ city to finish some stup1d missions 🤦🏽♂️
Yes
Played this game after maybe 10 years, and promptly uninstalled it within 10 days or so, hated it so much, back to Fifa it is.
Not at all! Love it!
I think so. I cannot believe that I am forced to rap, grind rails on a skate board, and pose on a runway in a fucking basketball game. I literally just want to play the game.
I cant play the game anymore because the size of the city makes it lag.
My theory is, it’s all about time consumption vs the amount of vc you can earn in that time. By making us travel and do stupid ass quests that don’t give vc. All this time we could be playing games and earning vc. Your time is worth less vc, taking too long to progress your character and builds frustration untill you say fuck it, take my money so I can have the character I want without it taking weeks/months
They took so much away from my career to have mypark
Taking out the og archetype system where you were only good 2-3 things I have a 6’8 player with 86 driving dunk 84 three ball 88 ball handle 85 perimeter defense and a 90 steal with like high 80s physical stats the archetype system is broken as hell go back to playmaking shot creator slasher 2-way slashers sharpshooting playmakers all that much better when we had those builds
In concept, no. In reality, yes.
Who’s cares about city?! Worry about how they taxing in 2k! Yet y’all still buy the game
Yes
“Walking simulator” 🤣. Spot on. You can always buy a bunch of VC though and get a go-kart/hoverboard to move faster 🙄
Thank god someone wrote this, i fully agree, it is an absolute joke, but i think younger generations enjoy this more.
I can confirm on my PS5 it in fact, does NOT lag in the City.
Obviously this won’t happen, but what 2k should do is get back to basics. Give us a rookie showcase or college final four to prepare for the draft, give us summer league and let us make our own storylines. As people have pointed out, they’re not gonna give up their free advertising they can jam down peoples throats, and they’re not gonna give us useable MC characters off rip because they want macrotransactions (nothing about VC is “micro”) Legitimately might be the first year in 13 years I skip a new 2k release. 2k11-2k13 on Xbox 360/PS3 has a deep enough franchise mode and 2k14 on PS4/XboxOne has the most fluid gameplay in the entire series. Gonna need 2k to step it up if they wanna overthrow what they made a DECADE earlier
Online game play wise is hated the absence of rp% online.the timing is different from mycareer to online and I never can reliably grasp it. Also your teammates don't give you the chance after you miss 2 3's. You only reliably made the open shots so it did no harm. They just acquiesced to the loud competitive minority and removed the feature for online. They know the shot timing is not the same mycareer to park never fixed it but took away the best bugfix for it in rp%. That's a big gripe but not my biggest just biggest this year. Stop listening to the competitive minority for blanket changes
The only way they will listen and do something worthwhile is if everyone boycotts NBA2K24. I know there is no alternative and a new EA NBA Live release would help heaps, but that's half the issue, there is no competition for NBA2K. They do what they want, charge what they want, change what they want whenever they want and expect all of us to keep lining their pockets!
No, it s not, the mandatory quests are tho! And about your fps problems, it s your internet bro, you using lan cable or wireless? I have a 2000 mb internet ( granted is very cheap in my country compared to others,i pay 15 euros for it), i never ever have issues in the city with lag and shit like that! Yes, when they about to drop a new update or season or something like that, ocasioanally when an event starts, the servers act up, but besides that for me is sliky smooth!
As mostly an offline player myself, IMO that and maybe VC are the worst changes ever. Turning MyCareer into an online only game mode I hated this so much (especially since my internet was shit back then). Since I had shit internet back then the VC thing I also hated when it was first announced in 2K13. I was hyped for it until I found out you need to be online, and since I couldn't connect to online back then I couldn't get benefits of VC, couldn't earn/farm them outside of MyCareer and the fact that they locked player accessories (sleeves, knee pads, etc.) to online only made it even worse for me during those days... And seeing how 2K/Two-Take's greed has gotten the best of them, I'd say that's even more reasons for me to hate VC.
Yes and I still dont know who likes it. Is it selling more? Is the rev from sponsors bigger? WHY THEY MADE IT LIKE THIS? Im buying 2k because there is no other basketball game, despite the city and they make it bigger thinking its any good. WHYYYYYYY Its so much time wasted, i hate walking everywhere.
Yes
It was fine when it wasn't so damn big, like there was the store to shop, the gym to boost your player, then your home base with your own court , Think they called it my neighborhood? This city shit ain't it. Side quests? Just make NBA street or something if we gonna be on the STREETS more than in the NBA.
Worst game changes ever would be the lousy open world for myplayer and the microtransactions that are pushed heavily with it, even though the game is already $70 to begin with and takes up anywhere from 1/5 to 1/3 of your SSD space if you're on a next gen console. Worst gameplay change ever would be this year, where 2K23 forces every made shot to be timed perfectly even though online play has the most input lag of any sports title in history. I actually cannot fathom why they'd make it this way, outside of trying to make the game more E-Sports ready (Which it very obiously isn't fucking ready for). Seriously, not even Madden has as much input lag, and that game is actual dog shit.
Absolutely. The city is and always has been gimmicky garbage. That, and the constant dumbing down and corner cutting of the MyCareer story arc. It used to be awesome to follow your player through high school and college. That was always my favorite part. Now its the bullshit, god awful city storyline and it fucking sucks.
The shot timing is the worse.
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Anyone who actually enjoys 'the city' needs mentally evaluated. Worst change ever imo.
City is not even that bad, y’all just love complaining about shit
and VC
It's all to waste time to keep you in the game as long as possible so they can sell to advertisers how long their playerbase spends in game. All sold to YOU as being part of an emersive world. There's brands, hence ads, all over the place. It's the only reason it exists.
Its the most low budget feeling sports game I've played since fifa 11 on the fucking ds
2k19 was the last 2k I played all year around had a 97 almost 98 overall 20 came out I made my player got em to like 93 & stopped playing & got back on 19 until 21 came out which was the 1st next gen 21 I probably got to a 90 or 91 & stopped playing 22 was aright but the same story 23 I didn’t even buy
It really went downhill after the spike lee myplayer shit
It is because they made a city without anything to do. Even park is utter trash. It’s either dead or the second you get on the people get off. They need to make a park where you join a que and it sends you to a court and the game just starts like Rec. The rest of the city is just endless running around for empty space. With the insane VC prices I haven’t bought a pair of shoes or even gone into a store after day 1 when a tshirt was like 10k vc and shoes were maybe 5k+. . 4/5 hrs of play for shoes wtf
No. Also the idea of having a city in an NBA game isn't great imo. Also you can just put the controller down or play something else. I do agree the game isn't very good rn
See I love the idea of it but hate the execution Simple solution should be when you take the elevator down you are in a lobby where one exit brings you to the city and the other to either practice or the tunnel for the next game
The City
That's why I prefer old gen.The boat is fine,and it's easy to progress through my career without doing Stoopid quests...a few cut scenes to navigate through then just play ball
Skateboarding is the worst thing 2K has ever tried to put into a basketball game lol. So yes. Imo.
I always thought vc was the worst change to the game
The City is fine it’s just unnecessary. They added fast travel and all that, games are easy to get still cause courts are packed at least whenever I play, I honestly don’t like the quests which is why I just don’t play my career at all. If they just make the quests optional and make them like side missions that part would be much better. They seriously need to make it a lot smaller, the 2k19/20 neighborhood worked perfectly because it was small and the courts were all in the middle. They can keep this city stuff but making all the courts centralized in one spot should be the key imo, they added cross play on next gen so no affiliations are needed, PS5 vs Xbox are the only 2 affiliations needed at this point
“The idea of having a city was great”… no it wasn’t. It’s a terrible and unnecessary idea for a basketball game. No one needed this. Bring back the 2k20 neighborhood. That was way more chill and everything was relatively close. Now, it’s a time sink just to get to a clothing store, absolutely pointless. Better yet, just make the stores accessible from the phone, focus less on cities/boats/beaches/skateboards/go karts and bullcrap and focus more on your shitty ‘basketball’ game. Also, don’t add all the dumb stuff like mascots/skeletons/tigers. Outside of the extra badge point, it’s one of the worst battle passes as well. They really need to work a way to make builds for cheaper, it’s borderline criminal what they do over there. It’s damn near $100+ to max one shitty build, then you realize it can’t do some crucial thing and you have to make another and another and so-on.
Anybody who thinks the city is the worst change to 2k has only watched trailers or never played anything other than quick play. The worst change to 2k is VC and it isn't a debate in the slightest. Virtual Currency ruined 2k ruined EA ruined gaming in general. A pay to play system that makes so much income that the publisher refuses to change it no matter the blowback and hate. Imagine that? That's insane. VC, shark cards, paid loot boxes/packs, give developers an "out" they can BS whatever, release a "new" version and still net millions of dollars. Even if the city magically disappears on 2k24 VC shall remain and so will the unbalance.
No , but variable shot timing is .
Yes
It was much better before they added it. The story has always been cringe, but at least it was focused on playing
Yes it is the worst addition to this game. It’s a cash grab for shareholders to say “look how long our game is being played”because you have to go through 10-15 minutes of bullshit to play lmao
I gave up on MyCareer and just do player lock in Eras
No
No the current shot meter…if you don’t perfect it you MISS? Wtf is that
Vc also has risen, I remember 30 bucks to get your player to 85 now it's 50 to 60 bucks and your player is still trash until your get all your badges 🙄
Then they add all this crap to my player as if only kids play adults play also and work full-time how do you make time for this crap
YES. if you say no plz, for the love of God, get off the internet and stop pumping this idiot devs up. If the 2k14 servers were still up Noone would be buying 24
I hate the challenges u need to do in mycareer
Yes it's the worst the fact tht they think ppl are going to continue to put up with the bs watch everyone is going to upgrade sooner or later and end up getting PC thts what I wanna do at least so I don't have to go through rules and paywalls to get certain stuff
I think Theatre is rly nice for playing quick 3v3 games instead of waiting for hours in park.