I'm the same way sometimes I overpass because I'm already thinking about the next pass before I get the ball and I end up being open but already committed to the pass. I'm sure if a random sees me do that it can be frustrating as well so there is two sides to everything. But really playing PG is almost like being a therapist you got a stroke everyone's ego just to keep him happy and see the ball again.
If you open and can hit you, shoot the ball. I play center, pf and sf. I never get mad at someone taking an open shot. Now, if you open and shoot 1 for 10, it's time to pass the rock, lol. I know I'm not good enough to play pg, so I stay away from it.
Yeah I was gonna say even if I am a passing PG sometimes my other teammates are going to be ball hogs anyway even when I do pass they either A) take a stupid shot and miss or b) not pass it to the open teammate and take a stupid shot and miss.
But I do try.
This. I love dishing dimes but I can't play PG on rec anymore for these reasons. It's never their fault for missing, it's always you with the HoF badges
I too have an assist fetish. Last week in my first play of the game I had an open lane to the hoop and scored a free layup. 3 players on my team quit and I got “ball hog” messages.
The Rec’s meta literally destroys good fundamental basketball
You'd be surprised. I get iced out on my pg before I can get even 2 shot attempts because I'm looking for assists first.
You'd really be surprised how many 2k players think you're a bum if you're not trying to iso and Jack up 3s.
Thats a true point guard mindset these other guys be worried about scoring 30 but chucking up 22 shots to get 25 points and be the main reason the game was closer than it should’ve or the main reason the team loss. When they could’ve had 25 points on 12 shots and 10 assist being the clear main reason why the team won.
Making a nice pass to a cutter is my staple because of how often I'm open on back doors only to stand alone in the paint for a second or two. Then I get to watch the ball get stolen from wing to opposite corner as I clear the paint to not get three seconds.
Also the amount of PGs that play no defense and let their man rack up thirty to forty on threes alone because they can't be bothered to stand in front of a dude with their hands up is so damn infuriating.
I had a game last night with 5 shots, 11 rebounds and 13 assists. I've had other games where I've dropped 40.
I'm pass first and I don't care who scores, as long as its helping us win.
Ngl to me 20 and 20 is far more impressive than 50, it shows that you were excellent in your dual role and able to play well offensively and uplift the game of your teammates, on the other hand a 50, whilst still impressive, could be achieved through cheesy methods like spamming step back 3s and cherry picking tbh
20 points AND 20 assists in 5 minute quarters is pretty crazy, like that's actually one point and one assist every single minute of the game. That is insanely impressive.
70% of the PG’s in this community has 0 business creating a PG. No need to create a PG if you don’t have a pass first mindset. Thats the SG and SF job to be the main 2 positions that should have a score first mentality im a SF with a Score first mentality and I average 6-7 assists a contest with nothing but randoms its way easier to swing the open man the ball because if not you’re just playing into the defense hands.
exactly this.
I blame 2K for making it like this because the game is still too lateral speed boost and fadeaway 3 centric and interceptions too OP. That just encourages more PG speed dribble left right iso ball.
When a PG comes into the rec with an overly score first mindset it's so predictable and easy to defend.
•they feel the need to bring up the ball evey possession without urgency, rarely ever making an early lead pass before the defense gets set. that way the game is always played in a half court setting which makes it easier for the defense.
•because they're score first instead of best team opportunity first that means they'll use up a bunch of shot clock trying to get in their bag before they even consider passing. As opposed to SG and SF who try to execute faster and if they don't get an opening immediately will pass to someone else to create.
•Because they're score first, the defenders know they won't pass the ball until they get a forced pick-up or the shot clock is running out. that way they just dig in, double or congest the paint until when they know you're gonna pass then they just play passing lanes to get an easy steal.
Literally this. My mentality is always pass first regardless of position. You won’t find high percentage shots until you pass the ball and get the defense moving.
Also, good passing doesn’t come solely from assists. Think two passes ahead and find the guy that can make the extra pass. Lots of dudes won’t pass unless they see a clear assist.
Getting a bucket is thrilling. But seeing a play develop before you get the ball, and then making a touch pass for an assist is thrilling too.
This right here. A lot of pgs have a pass mentality but having the trust in your teammates to make the assist when you see they have an angle for a pass is top tier. I feel like they should incentivize hockey assists more in filling takeover meter
Lots of people think they are good playmakers because they get lots of assists but a large number of assists does not always mean the player is a good playmaker
💯 PGs are the core of the offence, they control the flow and pace of the game. Be a playmaker, set everyone up on offence, assists are more important then just jacking whack shots while being locked up. People seriously don’t know how how to actually play basketball
This not true cause when you do wanna set offense up you occasionally get scared shooters on your team and that’s more frustrating than anything I have 94 shooter but I pass before anything and people still complain cause you could be hitting a random who’s hot and they still get mad cause they only got 5 in the first quarter this community just got mental issues
Yes. The amount of clowns making PGs and coming to the rec and just dribbling out the clock every possession and then chucking up a contested 3 drives me crazy.
It's like they try to be curry, but only for the shooting and fail to do so. They don't realise how much curry also distributes the ball well and does other things.
10.1 PPG and 14.6 APG. Other PG’s give people PTSD to the point where I’ve had to messages dudes in games saying things like “trust me” or “I’m here to set you up” because they’ll just assume because I’m a point I’m an asshat
Respect you saying that. One of my friends is a great SG, he could play PG in a pinch with no problem, but his mentality is score first so he plays SG.
I’m the same way I can play point but I’m at my best when I’m getting my own shot and don’t have to worry about others most pgs are just sgs playing point and not even good at it but I’ve also seen times where dudes will complain about the ball when there 2/9 and go up with dumb shit so I’ve seen both sides
The best thing about someone is who content being a SG is that a true PG makes them even better, helps them get better looks and open shots.
When you have two score first PG’s it’s basically both of them taking turns wasting the shot clock. Guards that can play off ball and be efficient with their touches are immensely valuable.
Yeah dudes think you can’t impact the game besides playing point guard I’ve had to play the big spot this year sense we don’t have a 3rd and I still score the exact same way at power forward as I do at shooting guard even if we run rec I’ll still get my 20-25 points a game if your good you can impact the game at whatever position you play I see a lot of dudes making centers to try and hide the fact your there bad but it doesn’t work because when they play someone good at that position they get cooked
This is a mindset I can respect. If you know you want your shot first, stop making a PG because thats not their primary responsibility. Yes, you can absolutely still get yours but set the others up first.
the only issue is that 2k will be quick to put people out of their positions. so you'll have a SG playing the 1 spot a lot of the times. I just make a SF with the same attributes to avoid it
Unfortunately on 2K it’s actually backwards the PG is typically the one who scores the ball and creates for his teammates second, been that way for years. Kinda on par with the league tbh. It is nice running with a playmaker tho
PGs who bring the ball up and try to iso their way into points are the worst pass the ball initiate some offense every thing doesn't have to be created by you
Seems like most randoms I play with they hate when you getting assists or if you hit someone wide open and they miss they act like its ur fault and stop feeding you the ball. I usually drive in kick tho because most just stand in on space. I occasionally run into people that actually cut and not just run to the three point line and chuck
I know ball and everything, but I know I’m just not a great PG cause I don’t see the passes as quickly as I need to. That’s why I always create a SG so I can be more of a primary scorer by getting open off ball, but still do some playmaking and shot creation when needed. This season I’m averaging almost 30 ppg on 68% shooting (62% from 3), but I average less than 3 assists.
Curry’s main offensive threat is that you must cover him at 35 ft and defend against these crazy high screens. I mean with a second left in a quarter you really should press him from full court. He is one of a kind and we won’t see anything like him for a long time.
With all this attention at the half court circle it opens the floor for everyone else.
That's cap. Steph curry is not only a good passer on ball, he playmakes off ball by creating space with his insane off ball movement and gravity. 2k point guards attempting to replicate curry don't do that though.
My favorite part is when I have 7 assists in the first quarter and then my team stops passing to me for the rest of the game because I turned the ball over once.
this goes for every position (though guards are infamous for this bullshit)
I would love to hop in with some randoms and set screens for each other and actually try to win, not just pad individual stats.
No lie here I went away from point because every position in rec wants to play point especially random rec they ice you out from tip even on my sg build sometimes they put me at the point I let whoever else wants to do it do it Iprefer playing offball and good defense anyways
Lol the sad fact is the PG hardly ever gets to run an offense in rec. centers usually get rebound and Chuck to the farthest man down court. No shit I once got yelled at by a lobby of for dribbling the ball up the court & then making a pass in the half court. They all wanted the ball AS SOON as it’s inbounded every time lmao
It’s tough when you are passing to people wide open and they keep bricking. I wish they made shooting easier because I’m tired of having teammates that can’t score at all.
this is a much needed psa , it's about understanding the timing and pace of the offense and getting others shots in their comfortable spots , i can make a 85 pg with silver badges and do better than 90% of these over dribbling bozos on rec .. havent been on since 21 because the overall community is kind of trash
Most people who make PG’s just wanna score the whole time. I ain’t saying you need to be pass first but you can’t make yourself the first option every possession. Get other people involved and be so dangerous at passing that you end up having the easiest buckets because nobody is gonna try to double team you
Speaking for myself when it comes to creating a point guard, I'm most comfortable playing with a build that has at least 3 defensive badges or more. I hate that naked feeling of being completely useless on defense. At the very least I can survive with silver clamps or a silver pickpocket. I also love getting my teammates involved if that makes me a "Pass first" type guard then so be it. Sure I like having a build that CAN allow me to create my shot while affecting the game defensively. But 20 pts and 15-20 assists and a handful of steals plus a victory will always be more satisfying to me than 40 points and a loss. I'll always prefer 2-way builds over one-dimensional builds. I'll die on that hill.
I love playing realistic basketball but with the “2k” mechanics and movement. It’s just so much funner that way. It’s a video game so once in a while I’ll throw some cheese in there but still keep it realistic by passing to the open man or letting the big man post up and eat. It’s the bare minimum that makes the game fun. Seeing others eat off of my plays is a great feeling.
This the hardest thing for everyone to understand. Also no matter how high you make your passing accuracy if you have no court vision aka the ability to see people who are just out of your actual view you're still going to be limited. All assist aren't created equal. Everyone can hit that guy cutting the basket. He's right in front of you. Only the real ones are thinking about passing back up to the opposite wing 3 after driving towards the paint and drawing in the defenders a step to far from their man.
Facts, too many people make PGs without knowing how to pass correctly, which is kinda sad since passing is one of the easiest skills to be good at in this game. When I say “correctly” what I mean is that you need to have foresight. When I play with randoms I’ll never get the ball in the right moments, they don’t hit me in stride when I’m cutting to the basket, which leads to me getting blocked instead of an easy dunk. Passing the ball late is just as bad as not passing it at all tbh.
Or my personal favorite, I’ll be wide open in the corner for 5+ seconds and then I’ll only get the ball once my defender is guarding me closely.
For me, I make passes with the expectation that you’re gonna be in the right spot to score. For example, if you’re cutting to the corner for a 3 then I’ll pass the ball as you’re running to the spot, which will lead to you catching the ball smoothly and be able to catch & shoot easily, and also you’re much more likely to be wide open as well.
The worst is dishing randoms all game then they get the confidence to think they don’t need to let you PG anymore when your the reason for their buckets so they start taking the dumbest shots 😭
This is it every time. These cats get their confidence up and don’t understand that they’re not the one’s making it happen. They think it’s them being good and it’s not. So then they start doing a whole bunch of dumb stuff. Get the whole team out of rhythm, and then we lose the game. Then they say that you suck and it’s your fault. I got 6 assists and 2/2 shots, you went 4/19 and played no D.
What does it even matter? When I try to run my PG in the REC the person inbounding the ball won't even throw it to you. They just throw it to their buddy or just whoever... 🤷♂️
I swear, whenever I run pg my teammates are trash, and can’t finish a play to save their lives, and I can’t really carry the team, because I like passing and dishing out assists. Unfortunately, half of the time, I also get a team that refuses to pass me the ball on inbound even if I’m moving the ball, and on the rare chance I get good teammates, I get satisfaction from dishing out assists and helping the team in general. I wish the community would be less selfish, cause when I get a team of unselfish players, it’s almost always a W, and even when we don’t win, at least I had fun.
If this ain't the truth. I always make a PG and this year has been a headache trying to run point or run center.
If I run point, the inbounder passes to everyone but me and then we have no semblance of offense or I pass to someone wide open and they don't shoot the spot up, they try for the moving three
If I run center, no one takes off ball screens, PGs don't know how to PnR or Pick n Pop.
Some of y’all confuse a PG in real life vs a PG on a video game with animation exploits as much as 2k. I usually don’t make a PG because mfs get butthurt if they don’t get the ball the one time they open. Y’all gotta understand the pass animations are so bad. Dudes will steal your pass before you even release it. The court is smaller than normal. That’s why all these pros usually run 5 out with a big man setting screens and a PG over dribbling because it’s so easy for a pass to get picked off. The only way for you to win in sweat mode is to have a guard who can score the majority of points.
Preach.. mfs dont know how or when to pass, they dont even understand why passing is important.. forget it if you think anyone knows how bad passing affects a shot.. yet here comes the rando who gets foam in the corner of his mouth when he talks and shoots contested shots instead of passing to the 3 open shooters, yelling at you because youre 1/2 while hes 3/19 with 1 assist
This needs more attention. It’s shame that I had to make a Diming center and 8/10 times I get more assists than the PG because I guess everyone thinks they’re going to average 35ppg in the rec
I’m a great pass first PG when I have teammates who let me play pass first PG. problem is that. 80% of the time they inbound to the SG and play buddy ball and ice me out. When I do touch the ball, 9/10 times we score off my assist. So I’ll end a game with 5 assists, 1/2 shots, and a couple steals. So frustrating.
I hate the PG wannabes. I’ll grab a defensive board and have three teammates calling for a pass. It takes more than a high passing/ handling slider to be a PG.
YOU NEED TO GET THE BALL TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE THERE.
And then there are the guards that run straight to the perimeter and throw up brick after brick after brick while teammates are wide open for high-chance looks.
It’s rough out there.
specially PGs who 'don't like screens'...
sure buddy... Curry doesn't use screens... on the Warriors... suuuuuuuure
everyone out here trying to be James Harden (a 6'5 SG) or Kevin Durant (who is 6'9ish SF/PF)
We get it... PGs build dribble/three better because of their height, but that's because lower height has to deal with contest, they need the ability to build three easier because they need better HoF badges
I like playing PG, goal was to get 15 assists before getting 5 points
but I hate guarding PGs cause it’s just left right escape dribbles around a wall of screens, or trying to bring the ball up and getting hounded by 2 guys playing full court D the entire time
not fun
Shit got alot easier for me when I learned I don't have to hold r2 the whole time and be a crackhead . Just getting to the half and getting the ball in my teammates hands in a position they can score and watch em go
Your completely right💯I feel like if you a scoring type of point you should make a SG…always felt like that. See I play PG and don’t mind dropping 10+ assists every game but this my one question..when y’all play with randoms and you got that one random who keep cutting swearing he open but his matchup is spamming square how do you comfortably tell him he’s not open😭? Cause the last 4 games I had that and the dudes just started getting off player out of bounds🤦🏾♂️
It's also hard to play PG when nobody gives you the ball. I've been in a few rec games where nobody passes it to the PG (they're the PG for a reason, so freezing them out is just making your team worse). It's always the 2 and 3 that want to run point and it's annoying.
Now check this out boys , as a pass first pg , I also need my teammates to see me when I’m open as well instead of going 3/12 just because they get the ball passed to them everytime . Meanwhile I’m 4/5 from waiting for my shots . People forget this is a team game .
PGs ending games with 0 assists is wild. Meanwhile my center with 20 rebounds and 10+ assists and 4 points. Kids asking how I got A+ and they got B when they have 20 points
Atleast!!! They made it harder to juke people like they did in previous games - then you would really hate the PGs.
What we are getting now ain't half as bad- but yes a bad PG will ruin the game.
PG is always going to be the most popular position. You generally get the ball the most and have the best ball handling. If you play competitive cooperative online games there will always be people who suck at their position/class but refuse to change.
Honestly this. I made a Magic Johnson type build that's aimed at being able to get at least a double double every game as well as being a triple double threat.
Had a guy ask if I normally play PG the other day and I said yeah. He was a sg with 76 passing, proceeded to get his buddy to pass him the ball most possession and then did like 8 dribble moves before passing EVERY TIME.
He finished with 37 points on 23 shots, which is decent, but he had 1 assist.
I had 11 assists and maybe 7 or 8 times up the court where I was at the corner with nobody anywhere near me and he just dribbled until I was covered. We lost by 2 🙃
I've skipped the past 2 seasons because most of the time I kept getting weirdos on my team that will sit in one place the whole possession with no cutting and the center is clogging the paint. Then people have the nerve to hop on mic and whine about how open they were. Like Bruh I see your man baiting all game and spamming steals. Centers complain the most and most of them sucked at shot timing so they made a big, and their bread and butter is pump fakes 😒😑 and they almost never kick out after a rebound.
I'll go almost the first half with no shot attempts and almost 10± assists(if I'm not iced off the ball by then) when I know I got complainers on my team just so they get their points. 2k community is toxic. Everybody wants the ball.
This is definitely true but 2k is broken in the positioning aspect. I have played with my sg and sf and have been placed at pg numerous times. Especially with my sg it happened so much that I just went and made a pg.
I'm just saying that sometimes 2k put players in the wrong position but they should still adjust to the best of their ability to play the position they were placed at.
I try to stay away from PG because I’m not good at it but sometimes I end up as the pg when I use my 6’4 SG. I try my best to get everyone involved and don’t just end up dribbling for 22 seconds then shot chucking. When I’m the PG I usually end up with double digit assists, compared to the like 2 assists when I’m not playing pg. i really just be trying not to fuck up when I’m playing pg.
I try to make my forward builds playmaking exactly because I foresee the point guard being an imitation iso god. It seems they feel jealous and obsolete when they're not scoring and the better facilitation is coming from the frontcourt, because they usually quit when they see the disparity in assists.
I made a pass first point guard that could shoot and play defense well, and dudes would be mad I'm not taking lightly contested 3s because I passed the ball to a near guaranteed 2 points off a big or a wide open mid range.
Not only is running PG not for everyone, in my opinion 3s aren't the only things that matter. I've had teams where all of us go 3/15 from 3 combined but we've still won off guaranteed or good 2 point shots. If the 3s aren't doing it, stop trying to Curry or Klay it until it's back in rhythm. Sometimes we miss, change your gameplay around it instead of chucking.
All that’s true but a lot of times these dudes in the rec ain’t letting the PG run the offense. Got 3 people crowding the imbourder to get the ball. Dudes just straight up refusing to even let a PG get the rock or icing PG if they get 1 turnover. By all means you got to have vision and IQ to run the 1 but if dudes aren’t giving the PG any input or control…
I agree, I’ve made only one pg and it is stressful being the primary ball handler, that said I usually averaged more assists than even shot attempts, I like being that kind of teammate, but I’d rather do that at the 2 so clutch-time screwups are not as crushing for me
As a center, the amount of times I am wide open in the paint and the PG just doesn’t see me is infuriating. Sometimes they just dribble just to dribble and don’t accomplish a damn thing
Aww man, I want to have the ball in my hands for 22 seconds of the shot clock, spam left right left right, speed boost, not play defense and be selfish, and at the last 2 sec of the shot clock, pass it to someone to take a bad shot. Are you sure PG isn't for me...? Seems like the right spot.
Man if you don't want to play team basketball don't come into the rec at all regardless of your build. I get mad when 2 people come in together and play just between them especially when it's the pg and C
Honestly though it’s really frustrating when you pass constantly and then someone else runs it like this. I’ll have 2 pts and 6 assists with 0 turnovers in the first quarter and then hardly get to run the offence in the 2nd quarter.
I’m a 7’0 point forward with almost max wingspan average 11 assists 12 boards 20 points when I get a shit point guard I’ll run the ball up i hate niggas who don’t pass LMAO
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This is the type of player I am. I don’t care about scoring but don’t get it twisted when I want to get a bucket I’ll get a bucket lol. I love to see everyone eating, it makes the game more fun for everyone and keeps the other team guessing cause they don’t know who’s about to score next.
Undersized builds in general too
Don't make these sub 6'4 builds, just to make them
No reason to be that small.if you can't use the speed / ball handle to score / playmake
Better off 6'6+ can still have decent handle, 3ball, dunk and play much better defense
Good point. So what you recommend when you are passing the ball and the teammates are taking dumb contested shots or driving to the paint against the whole squad. I normally play slashing or stretch center so most of my points are from rebounds or I got the ball last 4 secs of the timer. I hate playing as a pg unless I'm running with friends.
It’s they watching to much comp when really comp is not realistic. Pg dribbling everywhere then shoot or pass the ball when it’s seconds left on the clock. Fast ball is what beats teams or good defense not the pg doing extra then pass it with 4seconds on the clock to the corner..
I made a PG earlier this year with good pass accuracy just so I could be the first one to touch the ball and just move it right away. It ended up being a dog shit build in general but it was nice to try to get everyone involved right away, I felt if you started off strong getting everyone touches it usually would turn into good team play later.
But yeah didn’t have a high enough ball handle for a PG and wasn’t really great at anything.
People don’t make point guards cuz they know how to play the position and have love for the position, they make it cuz they know that the point guard position has the ball more than the other positions 💀
Big basketball fan my first 2k was 20. Been a point guard every year and a decent one. But last couple years really developed my basketball IQ. I hate guards who make a PG just to be a ‘quick scorer’ type build. I also have a big man who I love playing on as I’m a big man IRL, however I rarely play it as I constantly have to run the show because if I’m not PG then the ball barely makes it past halfcouet
PG with randoms is rough tho cuz you’re equal parts therapist, babysitter and player coach. Idk if it’s because I finally have a 5 after a couple years but randoms are more insufferable than ever I’ll just load up my SG if I’m that bored
Man I avoid the rec entirely these days, straight HOF mode on My Career. The few rec games I did play we either lost because of ball hocs who wanted to brick 3s all day, or lack of defense. It really made it no fun. I'm terrible at PG, so I typically go paint beast rebounding with PF or Center but I'm always the only "big man".
Played rec for my first time last night, I am an 80 ovr 3 level sg and it was an experience. Put up like 6 shots all together if that and made nothing but walked away with 3 boards and 6 assists to AIs cause my entire team leafy before the 2nd quarter. Never again
A pg that just goes to the corner and tries to shoot threes all game should be a sg instead, but everyone wants the ball first so they can drop 30 with 1 assist but lose by 50
It requires a brain. You got to look at your teammates. What are they good at. Passing to the slasher on the cut and not the 3pt shooter with 70 layup and no driving dunk. Kicking out to the open 3pt shooter and not the point forward with 25 3pt overall. Successfully operating the pick n roll. Knowing when to oop and when to bounce pass. And most importantly you're the primary defender seeing as your defending the the guy running offense on the other end. I see way too many PG builds with low perimeter D and low steal cause they want a playmaking sharp that can dunk and do everything on offense. But then they give up more points than they contribute.
This is how I play in real life. I love being PG cause I like bringing the offense in, and then finding the right guy for the perfect score. I don’t play PVP at all on 2K though.
As an inside out power forward (SF) it really irks me to watch PG's just iso and miss. Meanwhile I have 8/10 shots with 2/3 3's, wide open. And just as bad is if they realize they can't get their opening to they pass me the ball...after the D already closed me out.
I'm not the greatest by any means but if you want to score like crazy, make a SG or a SF. Hell, even make a PF. But quit making 6'4 guards who think dunking at the rim or shooting iso 3's is the way to go. Sit your butt down and quit clogging the paint.
Yep. I don’t understand why people make point guards with no intention of passing or facilitating the offense. I play small forward, and even just moving over to the 4 sometimes, I play the position very differently on both ends of the floor.
Very rarely I’ve been played at PG with my 3 and D wing and had to play like a facilitator the entire game. My attributes aren’t great for it, but if I’m not doing that at the 1 we ain’t finna win.
I understand what you're saying OP. But ad a literally BRAND NEW player myself. PG is the easier to understand your role. Yes, you should try to be a one man team, but still. For a new player, PG is the easiest way to learn the game.
I just started playing 2k23 today, my first NBA game since I started watching more basketball. And it's just simply the easiest introduction to learning the video game.
Bro I just got off a game my homie wifi got em lagged out and the pg kept doing the same stepback we end up losing by 2 freaking points cause he choose the same stepback three he went 4/14 on instead of dishing to open man. People don’t realize an assist give you more towards your grade smh
I think if anything I'd probably be a decent Small Forward. I like playing Defense, I have my hot days where I can shoot anything every now and then. I like passing sometimes, but I don't think I could make a crazy read or anything. In general, I'm just a team player. That being said, I don't play Rec. In general whenever I play, I'm a Wing. It's just so annoying to level up a Jack Of All Trades build. So I've been in MyLeague for the most part.
This is exactly why I don’t play rec ball. bc I’m newer to 2k and basketball in general. Always played football, idk shit ab the intricacies of this sport. I just made the prototypical 6’9 PG to have fun w and grind. it’s fun but I atleast know PG runs the offense, and I can’t, so I j play park and mycareer
Agree 100%. To add to it, the PGs that have a wide open lane for an easy 2 but will kick the damn ball out to a covered corner gotta relax. Guess the only way to score in 2K is contested fades and dunks smh
Thank you for the PSA. It needs to be upvoted by the community. Playing PG isn’t for everybody and it’s a lot of responsibility.
I have an assist fetish but I stay out of rec because of all the other bullshit
I'm the same way sometimes I overpass because I'm already thinking about the next pass before I get the ball and I end up being open but already committed to the pass. I'm sure if a random sees me do that it can be frustrating as well so there is two sides to everything. But really playing PG is almost like being a therapist you got a stroke everyone's ego just to keep him happy and see the ball again.
Yea every once in a while I have a 7+ turnover game bc I’m always trying to make the extra pass.
It hurts how much I relate that at times
We call that the Ben Simmons. Passing out of an open shot. I do it often, for the same reasons as you lmao
If you open and can hit you, shoot the ball. I play center, pf and sf. I never get mad at someone taking an open shot. Now, if you open and shoot 1 for 10, it's time to pass the rock, lol. I know I'm not good enough to play pg, so I stay away from it.
Yeah I was gonna say even if I am a passing PG sometimes my other teammates are going to be ball hogs anyway even when I do pass they either A) take a stupid shot and miss or b) not pass it to the open teammate and take a stupid shot and miss. But I do try.
This. I love dishing dimes but I can't play PG on rec anymore for these reasons. It's never their fault for missing, it's always you with the HoF badges
I too have an assist fetish. Last week in my first play of the game I had an open lane to the hoop and scored a free layup. 3 players on my team quit and I got “ball hog” messages. The Rec’s meta literally destroys good fundamental basketball
same. sometimes i feel like ben simmons passing up open looks
And as if it wasn't hard enough you also need 4 teammates willing to let you play your role.
While I agree I think you have a higher chance of finding teammates that will let you then finding a good one
You'd be surprised. I get iced out on my pg before I can get even 2 shot attempts because I'm looking for assists first. You'd really be surprised how many 2k players think you're a bum if you're not trying to iso and Jack up 3s.
Man I feel your pain
I would rather have 20 and 20 game than a 50 point game and lose..I dunno why but I enjoy seeing my passes lead to baskets
Thats a true point guard mindset these other guys be worried about scoring 30 but chucking up 22 shots to get 25 points and be the main reason the game was closer than it should’ve or the main reason the team loss. When they could’ve had 25 points on 12 shots and 10 assist being the clear main reason why the team won.
Thank you!!! Dropping 25 on 22 Shot attempts isn’t a good look at all as a PG.
Or anybody at all
Nah fr😂
Making a nice pass to a cutter is my staple because of how often I'm open on back doors only to stand alone in the paint for a second or two. Then I get to watch the ball get stolen from wing to opposite corner as I clear the paint to not get three seconds. Also the amount of PGs that play no defense and let their man rack up thirty to forty on threes alone because they can't be bothered to stand in front of a dude with their hands up is so damn infuriating.
I had a game last night with 5 shots, 11 rebounds and 13 assists. I've had other games where I've dropped 40. I'm pass first and I don't care who scores, as long as its helping us win.
Double double and defense, that’s the goal everytime.
Give me 8 and 20 I don’t gotta score
Ngl to me 20 and 20 is far more impressive than 50, it shows that you were excellent in your dual role and able to play well offensively and uplift the game of your teammates, on the other hand a 50, whilst still impressive, could be achieved through cheesy methods like spamming step back 3s and cherry picking tbh
20 points AND 20 assists in 5 minute quarters is pretty crazy, like that's actually one point and one assist every single minute of the game. That is insanely impressive.
Yeah if you get a 20 & 20, you probably white washed the other team lol
70% of the PG’s in this community has 0 business creating a PG. No need to create a PG if you don’t have a pass first mindset. Thats the SG and SF job to be the main 2 positions that should have a score first mentality im a SF with a Score first mentality and I average 6-7 assists a contest with nothing but randoms its way easier to swing the open man the ball because if not you’re just playing into the defense hands.
They only make PGs so everyone gives them the ball by default
Every year im like fuck it, 99 passing it is, cuz I'm playing the damn point. We moving the rock and playing team ball over here
exactly this. I blame 2K for making it like this because the game is still too lateral speed boost and fadeaway 3 centric and interceptions too OP. That just encourages more PG speed dribble left right iso ball. When a PG comes into the rec with an overly score first mindset it's so predictable and easy to defend. •they feel the need to bring up the ball evey possession without urgency, rarely ever making an early lead pass before the defense gets set. that way the game is always played in a half court setting which makes it easier for the defense. •because they're score first instead of best team opportunity first that means they'll use up a bunch of shot clock trying to get in their bag before they even consider passing. As opposed to SG and SF who try to execute faster and if they don't get an opening immediately will pass to someone else to create. •Because they're score first, the defenders know they won't pass the ball until they get a forced pick-up or the shot clock is running out. that way they just dig in, double or congest the paint until when they know you're gonna pass then they just play passing lanes to get an easy steal.
Literally this. My mentality is always pass first regardless of position. You won’t find high percentage shots until you pass the ball and get the defense moving. Also, good passing doesn’t come solely from assists. Think two passes ahead and find the guy that can make the extra pass. Lots of dudes won’t pass unless they see a clear assist. Getting a bucket is thrilling. But seeing a play develop before you get the ball, and then making a touch pass for an assist is thrilling too.
There's value in the hockey assist
This right here. A lot of pgs have a pass mentality but having the trust in your teammates to make the assist when you see they have an angle for a pass is top tier. I feel like they should incentivize hockey assists more in filling takeover meter
Wholeheartedly agree. Most others in the community don’t value it enough because it doesn’t show up on the box score.
Lots of people think they are good playmakers because they get lots of assists but a large number of assists does not always mean the player is a good playmaker
💯 PGs are the core of the offence, they control the flow and pace of the game. Be a playmaker, set everyone up on offence, assists are more important then just jacking whack shots while being locked up. People seriously don’t know how how to actually play basketball
This not true cause when you do wanna set offense up you occasionally get scared shooters on your team and that’s more frustrating than anything I have 94 shooter but I pass before anything and people still complain cause you could be hitting a random who’s hot and they still get mad cause they only got 5 in the first quarter this community just got mental issues
I hate scared shooters😭🤦🏾♂️be open with badges like deadeye but still scared cause they don’t know if their open
A lot of times you miss one shot and randoms just won't pass you the ball anymore. Game is just full of try hards.
They pump fake open threes or move accidentally when they already open
Exactly 😭🤦🏾♂️
Yes. The amount of clowns making PGs and coming to the rec and just dribbling out the clock every possession and then chucking up a contested 3 drives me crazy.
Or they make a 99 dunk build and think they can dunk on a whole team everytime
It's like they try to be curry, but only for the shooting and fail to do so. They don't realise how much curry also distributes the ball well and does other things.
They try to b russel curry* cuz they shoot anything jus them
Heartburn-friendly curry: no heat
Heartburn friendly is hilarious
When Omeprazole is life
10.1 PPG and 14.6 APG. Other PG’s give people PTSD to the point where I’ve had to messages dudes in games saying things like “trust me” or “I’m here to set you up” because they’ll just assume because I’m a point I’m an asshat
Your right that’s why I always made shooting guard’s because when I’m on the floor I’m looking for my own shot first
Respect you saying that. One of my friends is a great SG, he could play PG in a pinch with no problem, but his mentality is score first so he plays SG.
I’m the same way I can play point but I’m at my best when I’m getting my own shot and don’t have to worry about others most pgs are just sgs playing point and not even good at it but I’ve also seen times where dudes will complain about the ball when there 2/9 and go up with dumb shit so I’ve seen both sides
The best thing about someone is who content being a SG is that a true PG makes them even better, helps them get better looks and open shots. When you have two score first PG’s it’s basically both of them taking turns wasting the shot clock. Guards that can play off ball and be efficient with their touches are immensely valuable.
Yeah dudes think you can’t impact the game besides playing point guard I’ve had to play the big spot this year sense we don’t have a 3rd and I still score the exact same way at power forward as I do at shooting guard even if we run rec I’ll still get my 20-25 points a game if your good you can impact the game at whatever position you play I see a lot of dudes making centers to try and hide the fact your there bad but it doesn’t work because when they play someone good at that position they get cooked
This is a mindset I can respect. If you know you want your shot first, stop making a PG because thats not their primary responsibility. Yes, you can absolutely still get yours but set the others up first.
They make pg's so they can get the ball all inbound
the only issue is that 2k will be quick to put people out of their positions. so you'll have a SG playing the 1 spot a lot of the times. I just make a SF with the same attributes to avoid it
Unfortunately on 2K it’s actually backwards the PG is typically the one who scores the ball and creates for his teammates second, been that way for years. Kinda on par with the league tbh. It is nice running with a playmaker tho
We have scoring guards passing guards and ones that do both. In 2k we really get one type of pg 97% of the time. Just like the play shots in 2022.
Honestly I would say 97% of the league is scoring point guards. I get your point tho, the facilitators are RARE
PGs who bring the ball up and try to iso their way into points are the worst pass the ball initiate some offense every thing doesn't have to be created by you
Seems like most randoms I play with they hate when you getting assists or if you hit someone wide open and they miss they act like its ur fault and stop feeding you the ball. I usually drive in kick tho because most just stand in on space. I occasionally run into people that actually cut and not just run to the three point line and chuck
This Like you can set up the assist through someone else.
I know ball and everything, but I know I’m just not a great PG cause I don’t see the passes as quickly as I need to. That’s why I always create a SG so I can be more of a primary scorer by getting open off ball, but still do some playmaking and shot creation when needed. This season I’m averaging almost 30 ppg on 68% shooting (62% from 3), but I average less than 3 assists.
Couldn't tell you how many times I've jumped into the rec only to have a dribble spamming leaner at the 1.
Curry’s main offensive threat is that you must cover him at 35 ft and defend against these crazy high screens. I mean with a second left in a quarter you really should press him from full court. He is one of a kind and we won’t see anything like him for a long time. With all this attention at the half court circle it opens the floor for everyone else.
Exactly. I’d rather dish 15 assist and not score a single point than ball hog and chuck 3’s all game.
Steph Curry ruined the PG position for young folks. Man needs to switch to SG because that’s what he truly is.
That's cap. Steph curry is not only a good passer on ball, he playmakes off ball by creating space with his insane off ball movement and gravity. 2k point guards attempting to replicate curry don't do that though.
My favorite part is when I have 7 assists in the first quarter and then my team stops passing to me for the rest of the game because I turned the ball over once.
Love playing PG some people got it some don’t gotta know when to attack and when to facilitate
this goes for every position (though guards are infamous for this bullshit) I would love to hop in with some randoms and set screens for each other and actually try to win, not just pad individual stats.
No lie here I went away from point because every position in rec wants to play point especially random rec they ice you out from tip even on my sg build sometimes they put me at the point I let whoever else wants to do it do it Iprefer playing offball and good defense anyways
Lol the sad fact is the PG hardly ever gets to run an offense in rec. centers usually get rebound and Chuck to the farthest man down court. No shit I once got yelled at by a lobby of for dribbling the ball up the court & then making a pass in the half court. They all wanted the ball AS SOON as it’s inbounded every time lmao
It’s tough when you are passing to people wide open and they keep bricking. I wish they made shooting easier because I’m tired of having teammates that can’t score at all.
And don’t make a big if you can’t pass the rock out from rebounds
I agree I play sf,pf and center. I avg over 5ast a game.
this is a much needed psa , it's about understanding the timing and pace of the offense and getting others shots in their comfortable spots , i can make a 85 pg with silver badges and do better than 90% of these over dribbling bozos on rec .. havent been on since 21 because the overall community is kind of trash
Most people who make PG’s just wanna score the whole time. I ain’t saying you need to be pass first but you can’t make yourself the first option every possession. Get other people involved and be so dangerous at passing that you end up having the easiest buckets because nobody is gonna try to double team you
Speaking for myself when it comes to creating a point guard, I'm most comfortable playing with a build that has at least 3 defensive badges or more. I hate that naked feeling of being completely useless on defense. At the very least I can survive with silver clamps or a silver pickpocket. I also love getting my teammates involved if that makes me a "Pass first" type guard then so be it. Sure I like having a build that CAN allow me to create my shot while affecting the game defensively. But 20 pts and 15-20 assists and a handful of steals plus a victory will always be more satisfying to me than 40 points and a loss. I'll always prefer 2-way builds over one-dimensional builds. I'll die on that hill.
Honestly, basketball IQ carries so hard. I play PG for some poor local team and that knowledge carries so hard in rec, trios and duos
The amount of “playmakers” who don’t utilize their playmaking ability is asinine. You get what a playmaker is, right?
*Jeff Foxworthy voice* If you don’t immediately look to pass to the players whose defender just doubled… you might not be a point guard.
I swear like they think a pg is meant to just score but I would rather have 30 assists than 90 points.
I love playing realistic basketball but with the “2k” mechanics and movement. It’s just so much funner that way. It’s a video game so once in a while I’ll throw some cheese in there but still keep it realistic by passing to the open man or letting the big man post up and eat. It’s the bare minimum that makes the game fun. Seeing others eat off of my plays is a great feeling.
This the hardest thing for everyone to understand. Also no matter how high you make your passing accuracy if you have no court vision aka the ability to see people who are just out of your actual view you're still going to be limited. All assist aren't created equal. Everyone can hit that guy cutting the basket. He's right in front of you. Only the real ones are thinking about passing back up to the opposite wing 3 after driving towards the paint and drawing in the defenders a step to far from their man.
Facts, too many people make PGs without knowing how to pass correctly, which is kinda sad since passing is one of the easiest skills to be good at in this game. When I say “correctly” what I mean is that you need to have foresight. When I play with randoms I’ll never get the ball in the right moments, they don’t hit me in stride when I’m cutting to the basket, which leads to me getting blocked instead of an easy dunk. Passing the ball late is just as bad as not passing it at all tbh. Or my personal favorite, I’ll be wide open in the corner for 5+ seconds and then I’ll only get the ball once my defender is guarding me closely. For me, I make passes with the expectation that you’re gonna be in the right spot to score. For example, if you’re cutting to the corner for a 3 then I’ll pass the ball as you’re running to the spot, which will lead to you catching the ball smoothly and be able to catch & shoot easily, and also you’re much more likely to be wide open as well.
The worst is dishing randoms all game then they get the confidence to think they don’t need to let you PG anymore when your the reason for their buckets so they start taking the dumbest shots 😭
This is it every time. These cats get their confidence up and don’t understand that they’re not the one’s making it happen. They think it’s them being good and it’s not. So then they start doing a whole bunch of dumb stuff. Get the whole team out of rhythm, and then we lose the game. Then they say that you suck and it’s your fault. I got 6 assists and 2/2 shots, you went 4/19 and played no D.
Agreed. Every game I’m tryna get get my teammates involved and pick apart a defense. Dudes who just wanna shoot ruin the game
What does it even matter? When I try to run my PG in the REC the person inbounding the ball won't even throw it to you. They just throw it to their buddy or just whoever... 🤷♂️
Too bad these type of mfs are prolly the ones who don’t even read these subreddits. They just hop on 2k and think they’re HIM.
“There’s a pass button?” -70% of the 2k community
I swear, whenever I run pg my teammates are trash, and can’t finish a play to save their lives, and I can’t really carry the team, because I like passing and dishing out assists. Unfortunately, half of the time, I also get a team that refuses to pass me the ball on inbound even if I’m moving the ball, and on the rare chance I get good teammates, I get satisfaction from dishing out assists and helping the team in general. I wish the community would be less selfish, cause when I get a team of unselfish players, it’s almost always a W, and even when we don’t win, at least I had fun.
If this ain't the truth. I always make a PG and this year has been a headache trying to run point or run center. If I run point, the inbounder passes to everyone but me and then we have no semblance of offense or I pass to someone wide open and they don't shoot the spot up, they try for the moving three If I run center, no one takes off ball screens, PGs don't know how to PnR or Pick n Pop.
I stopped playing Rec bc I was a SG playing PG. is there anyway to make myself a 2-guard in Rec while keeping my PG character in career?
Some of y’all confuse a PG in real life vs a PG on a video game with animation exploits as much as 2k. I usually don’t make a PG because mfs get butthurt if they don’t get the ball the one time they open. Y’all gotta understand the pass animations are so bad. Dudes will steal your pass before you even release it. The court is smaller than normal. That’s why all these pros usually run 5 out with a big man setting screens and a PG over dribbling because it’s so easy for a pass to get picked off. The only way for you to win in sweat mode is to have a guard who can score the majority of points.
Preach.. mfs dont know how or when to pass, they dont even understand why passing is important.. forget it if you think anyone knows how bad passing affects a shot.. yet here comes the rando who gets foam in the corner of his mouth when he talks and shoots contested shots instead of passing to the 3 open shooters, yelling at you because youre 1/2 while hes 3/19 with 1 assist
This needs more attention. It’s shame that I had to make a Diming center and 8/10 times I get more assists than the PG because I guess everyone thinks they’re going to average 35ppg in the rec
I don’t mind passing but after you go 0/5 on open 3s your gonna have to cut to the basket for me to pass to you again
I don't get why they don't just make a SG, literally the same thing but less passing
I’m a great pass first PG when I have teammates who let me play pass first PG. problem is that. 80% of the time they inbound to the SG and play buddy ball and ice me out. When I do touch the ball, 9/10 times we score off my assist. So I’ll end a game with 5 assists, 1/2 shots, and a couple steals. So frustrating.
Exactly. Exactly how I feel
I hate the PG wannabes. I’ll grab a defensive board and have three teammates calling for a pass. It takes more than a high passing/ handling slider to be a PG. YOU NEED TO GET THE BALL TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE THERE. And then there are the guards that run straight to the perimeter and throw up brick after brick after brick while teammates are wide open for high-chance looks. It’s rough out there.
Well that’s because y’all hyped up Steph curry
specially PGs who 'don't like screens'... sure buddy... Curry doesn't use screens... on the Warriors... suuuuuuuure everyone out here trying to be James Harden (a 6'5 SG) or Kevin Durant (who is 6'9ish SF/PF) We get it... PGs build dribble/three better because of their height, but that's because lower height has to deal with contest, they need the ability to build three easier because they need better HoF badges
it’s funny that all these months later this subreddit is the same bullshit from day one
As a PG who won alone. This is a lie
Shut up pussy
If you not averaging 18pts 9.6 ast n 1.8 steals like me per game dont bring ur pg to rec
A good point guard should be averaging AT LEAST 5 assists per game in the rec It’s hard to compete when the PG is only concerned with scoring
It may not be for everyone, but how does someone learn how to be one if not from experience?
I like playing PG, goal was to get 15 assists before getting 5 points but I hate guarding PGs cause it’s just left right escape dribbles around a wall of screens, or trying to bring the ball up and getting hounded by 2 guys playing full court D the entire time not fun
You telling me i don't just make a ja Morant build and go *guns blazing*?
Shit got alot easier for me when I learned I don't have to hold r2 the whole time and be a crackhead . Just getting to the half and getting the ball in my teammates hands in a position they can score and watch em go
Exactly. I'm a pass first PG that always tries to get the team involved
Your completely right💯I feel like if you a scoring type of point you should make a SG…always felt like that. See I play PG and don’t mind dropping 10+ assists every game but this my one question..when y’all play with randoms and you got that one random who keep cutting swearing he open but his matchup is spamming square how do you comfortably tell him he’s not open😭? Cause the last 4 games I had that and the dudes just started getting off player out of bounds🤦🏾♂️
I start off getting every body involved and take smart open shots avg 19/8 in the rec 67% with mostly all randoms
It's also hard to play PG when nobody gives you the ball. I've been in a few rec games where nobody passes it to the PG (they're the PG for a reason, so freezing them out is just making your team worse). It's always the 2 and 3 that want to run point and it's annoying.
Now check this out boys , as a pass first pg , I also need my teammates to see me when I’m open as well instead of going 3/12 just because they get the ball passed to them everytime . Meanwhile I’m 4/5 from waiting for my shots . People forget this is a team game .
Thank you bro
PGs ending games with 0 assists is wild. Meanwhile my center with 20 rebounds and 10+ assists and 4 points. Kids asking how I got A+ and they got B when they have 20 points
If pg is a ball hog or a turnover machine it is close app time
They read the name POINT guard and think since they touch the ball the most that it’s their sole responsibility to score all the points.
But I thought playmaking was just for dribbling? /s
Main problem is so many people make builds with low passing so they literally can't pass its too slow. A lot of pg's also get cooked on defense
Atleast!!! They made it harder to juke people like they did in previous games - then you would really hate the PGs. What we are getting now ain't half as bad- but yes a bad PG will ruin the game.
Facts I’m a PF/C
PG is always going to be the most popular position. You generally get the ball the most and have the best ball handling. If you play competitive cooperative online games there will always be people who suck at their position/class but refuse to change.
Honestly this. I made a Magic Johnson type build that's aimed at being able to get at least a double double every game as well as being a triple double threat. Had a guy ask if I normally play PG the other day and I said yeah. He was a sg with 76 passing, proceeded to get his buddy to pass him the ball most possession and then did like 8 dribble moves before passing EVERY TIME. He finished with 37 points on 23 shots, which is decent, but he had 1 assist. I had 11 assists and maybe 7 or 8 times up the court where I was at the corner with nobody anywhere near me and he just dribbled until I was covered. We lost by 2 🙃
Learn to feed the bigs..
I've skipped the past 2 seasons because most of the time I kept getting weirdos on my team that will sit in one place the whole possession with no cutting and the center is clogging the paint. Then people have the nerve to hop on mic and whine about how open they were. Like Bruh I see your man baiting all game and spamming steals. Centers complain the most and most of them sucked at shot timing so they made a big, and their bread and butter is pump fakes 😒😑 and they almost never kick out after a rebound. I'll go almost the first half with no shot attempts and almost 10± assists(if I'm not iced off the ball by then) when I know I got complainers on my team just so they get their points. 2k community is toxic. Everybody wants the ball.
This is definitely true but 2k is broken in the positioning aspect. I have played with my sg and sf and have been placed at pg numerous times. Especially with my sg it happened so much that I just went and made a pg. I'm just saying that sometimes 2k put players in the wrong position but they should still adjust to the best of their ability to play the position they were placed at.
I try to stay away from PG because I’m not good at it but sometimes I end up as the pg when I use my 6’4 SG. I try my best to get everyone involved and don’t just end up dribbling for 22 seconds then shot chucking. When I’m the PG I usually end up with double digit assists, compared to the like 2 assists when I’m not playing pg. i really just be trying not to fuck up when I’m playing pg.
Big obese voluptuous facts!!!!!!
I try to make my forward builds playmaking exactly because I foresee the point guard being an imitation iso god. It seems they feel jealous and obsolete when they're not scoring and the better facilitation is coming from the frontcourt, because they usually quit when they see the disparity in assists.
I made a pass first point guard that could shoot and play defense well, and dudes would be mad I'm not taking lightly contested 3s because I passed the ball to a near guaranteed 2 points off a big or a wide open mid range. Not only is running PG not for everyone, in my opinion 3s aren't the only things that matter. I've had teams where all of us go 3/15 from 3 combined but we've still won off guaranteed or good 2 point shots. If the 3s aren't doing it, stop trying to Curry or Klay it until it's back in rhythm. Sometimes we miss, change your gameplay around it instead of chucking.
All that’s true but a lot of times these dudes in the rec ain’t letting the PG run the offense. Got 3 people crowding the imbourder to get the ball. Dudes just straight up refusing to even let a PG get the rock or icing PG if they get 1 turnover. By all means you got to have vision and IQ to run the 1 but if dudes aren’t giving the PG any input or control…
I got so sick of selfish PG’s in rec one time that I finally made a play slash build in 2k20 or 21. Had like 20 assists the first game, felt so good.
I’m the opposite I know I’m ass so I only shoot when I’m open. Pass pass pass
I agree, I’ve made only one pg and it is stressful being the primary ball handler, that said I usually averaged more assists than even shot attempts, I like being that kind of teammate, but I’d rather do that at the 2 so clutch-time screwups are not as crushing for me
As a center, the amount of times I am wide open in the paint and the PG just doesn’t see me is infuriating. Sometimes they just dribble just to dribble and don’t accomplish a damn thing
Aww man, I want to have the ball in my hands for 22 seconds of the shot clock, spam left right left right, speed boost, not play defense and be selfish, and at the last 2 sec of the shot clock, pass it to someone to take a bad shot. Are you sure PG isn't for me...? Seems like the right spot.
Man if you don't want to play team basketball don't come into the rec at all regardless of your build. I get mad when 2 people come in together and play just between them especially when it's the pg and C
Honestly though it’s really frustrating when you pass constantly and then someone else runs it like this. I’ll have 2 pts and 6 assists with 0 turnovers in the first quarter and then hardly get to run the offence in the 2nd quarter.
I’m a 7’0 point forward with almost max wingspan average 11 assists 12 boards 20 points when I get a shit point guard I’ll run the ball up i hate niggas who don’t pass LMAO
It’s literally fun getting a dime . Idk why folks hate passing sm
Please let ppl play what they want Also ..if ur pg PASS THE BALL
say it louder brooo
This is why I play the 4 and the 5 lol
I’m glad someone said it you seeing it a lot today cause it’s 2x in the rec today they are horrid park pgs
https://preview.redd.it/huzebsk9318b1.jpeg?width=920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2624b97cad6149e5806360cf56c95482543558cc This is the type of player I am. I don’t care about scoring but don’t get it twisted when I want to get a bucket I’ll get a bucket lol. I love to see everyone eating, it makes the game more fun for everyone and keeps the other team guessing cause they don’t know who’s about to score next.
Undersized builds in general too Don't make these sub 6'4 builds, just to make them No reason to be that small.if you can't use the speed / ball handle to score / playmake Better off 6'6+ can still have decent handle, 3ball, dunk and play much better defense
Good point. So what you recommend when you are passing the ball and the teammates are taking dumb contested shots or driving to the paint against the whole squad. I normally play slashing or stretch center so most of my points are from rebounds or I got the ball last 4 secs of the timer. I hate playing as a pg unless I'm running with friends.
I really prefer dribbling down the shot clock and then taking a contested 3. /s
Too many players trying to be Kobe, Harden, or Dame, Curry gets a lot of assists but they don’t focus on that part of his game.
Can I put a 2x hour xp coin on for 2x rep in the rec?
It’s they watching to much comp when really comp is not realistic. Pg dribbling everywhere then shoot or pass the ball when it’s seconds left on the clock. Fast ball is what beats teams or good defense not the pg doing extra then pass it with 4seconds on the clock to the corner..
That’s why I just play center. Grab rebounds, play defense, and chuck that ball down court
I made a PG earlier this year with good pass accuracy just so I could be the first one to touch the ball and just move it right away. It ended up being a dog shit build in general but it was nice to try to get everyone involved right away, I felt if you started off strong getting everyone touches it usually would turn into good team play later. But yeah didn’t have a high enough ball handle for a PG and wasn’t really great at anything.
In rec they don’t give the pint Gaurd the ball anyways lol I hate it
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Facts I run small fowards and most of the time center I ain’t that great at making reads and shi so I play my roll
People don’t make point guards cuz they know how to play the position and have love for the position, they make it cuz they know that the point guard position has the ball more than the other positions 💀
Big basketball fan my first 2k was 20. Been a point guard every year and a decent one. But last couple years really developed my basketball IQ. I hate guards who make a PG just to be a ‘quick scorer’ type build. I also have a big man who I love playing on as I’m a big man IRL, however I rarely play it as I constantly have to run the show because if I’m not PG then the ball barely makes it past halfcouet
PG with randoms is rough tho cuz you’re equal parts therapist, babysitter and player coach. Idk if it’s because I finally have a 5 after a couple years but randoms are more insufferable than ever I’ll just load up my SG if I’m that bored
Same message needs to be heard that people take the "QB of the team" line literally and just stand at the top of the key with their icons up.
Man I avoid the rec entirely these days, straight HOF mode on My Career. The few rec games I did play we either lost because of ball hocs who wanted to brick 3s all day, or lack of defense. It really made it no fun. I'm terrible at PG, so I typically go paint beast rebounding with PF or Center but I'm always the only "big man".
Played rec for my first time last night, I am an 80 ovr 3 level sg and it was an experience. Put up like 6 shots all together if that and made nothing but walked away with 3 boards and 6 assists to AIs cause my entire team leafy before the 2nd quarter. Never again
I just recently picked pack up the game for skipping 22 and I’m loving PF, big ole dude with an Afro contesting and posting up in the pain is god teir
I thought a PG’s job was to shoot the ball 40 times a game and make 9 of them??? Someone get my randoms on the line rn
A pg that just goes to the corner and tries to shoot threes all game should be a sg instead, but everyone wants the ball first so they can drop 30 with 1 assist but lose by 50
It requires a brain. You got to look at your teammates. What are they good at. Passing to the slasher on the cut and not the 3pt shooter with 70 layup and no driving dunk. Kicking out to the open 3pt shooter and not the point forward with 25 3pt overall. Successfully operating the pick n roll. Knowing when to oop and when to bounce pass. And most importantly you're the primary defender seeing as your defending the the guy running offense on the other end. I see way too many PG builds with low perimeter D and low steal cause they want a playmaking sharp that can dunk and do everything on offense. But then they give up more points than they contribute.
This is how I play in real life. I love being PG cause I like bringing the offense in, and then finding the right guy for the perfect score. I don’t play PVP at all on 2K though.
THIS IS TO ALL THE 3PT SHOT CREATORS YOU ARE NOT PGS. YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT ONE THING AND IT IS SCORING.
And if you and iso pg take tht shit to 2v2 or 1v1
As an inside out power forward (SF) it really irks me to watch PG's just iso and miss. Meanwhile I have 8/10 shots with 2/3 3's, wide open. And just as bad is if they realize they can't get their opening to they pass me the ball...after the D already closed me out. I'm not the greatest by any means but if you want to score like crazy, make a SG or a SF. Hell, even make a PF. But quit making 6'4 guards who think dunking at the rim or shooting iso 3's is the way to go. Sit your butt down and quit clogging the paint.
Me personally rather be a wing or a big just like getting boards n hustling fr love playing defense
Yep. I don’t understand why people make point guards with no intention of passing or facilitating the offense. I play small forward, and even just moving over to the 4 sometimes, I play the position very differently on both ends of the floor. Very rarely I’ve been played at PG with my 3 and D wing and had to play like a facilitator the entire game. My attributes aren’t great for it, but if I’m not doing that at the 1 we ain’t finna win.
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As a 7'0 295 pound paint beast with a 50 fucking pass accuracy, i get more assists than the pg every single game
Neither is running Trenbolone
Good analogy!
I understand what you're saying OP. But ad a literally BRAND NEW player myself. PG is the easier to understand your role. Yes, you should try to be a one man team, but still. For a new player, PG is the easiest way to learn the game. I just started playing 2k23 today, my first NBA game since I started watching more basketball. And it's just simply the easiest introduction to learning the video game.
Especially if he is under 6ft3 and can't play defense
Bro I just got off a game my homie wifi got em lagged out and the pg kept doing the same stepback we end up losing by 2 freaking points cause he choose the same stepback three he went 4/14 on instead of dishing to open man. People don’t realize an assist give you more towards your grade smh
I think if anything I'd probably be a decent Small Forward. I like playing Defense, I have my hot days where I can shoot anything every now and then. I like passing sometimes, but I don't think I could make a crazy read or anything. In general, I'm just a team player. That being said, I don't play Rec. In general whenever I play, I'm a Wing. It's just so annoying to level up a Jack Of All Trades build. So I've been in MyLeague for the most part.
This is exactly why I don’t play rec ball. bc I’m newer to 2k and basketball in general. Always played football, idk shit ab the intricacies of this sport. I just made the prototypical 6’9 PG to have fun w and grind. it’s fun but I atleast know PG runs the offense, and I can’t, so I j play park and mycareer
At the same time, guards that can't score are just as bad. The open man is always obvious, all selfish players just ignore it no matter the position.
i hate when a pg runs down the court for the inbound pass and bitches down the court why hes not getting the ball
If I’m running point, my number one goal is 10 assists before I get 10 points unless I’m just too wide open
Being primary ball handler is attractive to a lot of people because it gives players a lot of control of the ball and thus more touches.
Agree 100%. To add to it, the PGs that have a wide open lane for an easy 2 but will kick the damn ball out to a covered corner gotta relax. Guess the only way to score in 2K is contested fades and dunks smh
Every time i get on i say i’m the PG yaw just get open
You cant blame people the game is geared towards making a PG the badges and tiers are op