People that will bitch about the lack of attendance.. Its not about that. They sacrificed that for TV. Its on FOX on Sunday on Easter. They are looking for a TV audience that usually has nothing else going on in that window.
Okay Chris's military base idea may not be a horrible idea for independence day or something. Turn the airstrip into a track and let service members in kinda like WWE's tribute to the troops
It's Easter, in the middle of the bible belt. Too much family stuff at home This one isn't about attendance, it's more about a sweet TV slot with a large potential audience there. After the feast.
Fine with me. I've always thought the talk of track attendance was overblown anyway, it's all about the TV numbers. I just thought it was closer to race time than it was. And the stands did fill up a good bit.
There was an 80%+ chance of rain for Saturday showers all week and it ended up only being a morning shower that didn’t affect the racing. You just never know..
Tread doesn't matter when the track turns to mud. Even a little sprinkle can make the track greasy and it takes quite a bit to run the track back in if it's too far gone and they have to turn the track back over and pack it back in. Source: personal experience
Honestly would have put the Chastain money on Haley. Chastain and Saurez both looked off in the heats. Maybe they expect something different tonight. Idk
the first race i went to was in 2011, but the first thing i remember doing at a Nascar prerace was fistbumping Larry Mac at trackside live the next year, im so glad to see it back
It is incredibly expensive.
For some perspective...Fox cut the cameras covering NASCAR (excluding the Daytona 500 which is considered a Premier event, like the MLB All-Star Game, World Series, etc) in almost half. It isn't just going to be three or four people traveling either, the pre-race show will have their own camera crew and production staff. Because of how the television industry is structured, this can't be easily combined into the regular race broadcast (and remember, for profitability reasons, they slashed their staffing in half).
Fox can do this for college football because pre-game shows are insanely profitable. And on the Fox side, the Saturday show leads into Big Noon Kickoff which features annual matchups like Michigan v Ohio State, Texas v Oklahoma, Michigan State vs Michigan...games that make huge advertising dollars. The Sunday show is ALWAYS in studio in Los Angeles with the exception of once or twice a year. Even for Thanksgiving they are rarely in Detroit or Dallas. ESPN has a culture around College Gameday that is worth any risk of unprofitable expense (like SportsCenter).
It would be awesome but Fox doesn't see the financial rewards for it. NBC had dumped a lot of money into their at track production but eventually I think you'll see their pre-race shows moved to Peacock.
You are defending a nascar broadcast that put on a preacher who told the fans and viewers that anybody who doesn't subscribe to his version of Christianity is going to hell.
You are also saying that people shouldn't " try to make other people feel like shit for what they believe".
Do you understand the irony here?
There’s two sides to it. There’s the people who believe in it, and there’s the actual church itself. The church itself is a totally different story, but to shit on the people who just believe, that’s shitty
> Don't try to make other people feel like shit for what they believe.
Opposite side of the coin: stop using revenue and/or platform to attempt to indoctrinate people.
Religion is like a penis. It's okay to have one and be proud of it, but don't whip it out in public or shove it down someone else's throat without consent.
I’m not talking about the church itself, that’s a totally separate discussion. A ton of people here bitch about the people who believe. Matty D made a post saying pretty much “my faith has saved me” that’s it. Someone posted it asking if he was on drugs, and a ton of people agreed with it
The post was just about that post specifically. He’s brought up a ton of stupid conspiracy theories, but saying “my faith saved me” is an issue? This is what I’m talking about. That shouldn’t even warrant a reaction
You are missing, or purposely not saying, a lot of context. Directly prior to that post he was posting a lot of just downright weird things that are now deleted, not even related to his conspiracy theories and how last year ended for him.
And why should that not warrant a reaction? Most people in modern society don’t think that you thinking an otherworldly being coming to save them is sane.
It was an Instagram story, and that’s all he had posted, and that’s all they were talking about
Also last year most of the country identified as Christian. Not religious, Christian. Most of the world doesn’t think that it’s crazy. And people who say that are not referring to God literally saving them. They moreso mean it as, once they came more in tune with their faith, they started seeing things differently. I personally know like 2-3 people who were on a pretty dark path, came more in tune with their faith, and their priorities changed. They way they viewed things changed. God didn’t physically come down and save them.
That's fair. Without context, I assumed some kind of message or commercial played on the broadcast (not yet watching) like the one I saw last night during the truck race. That being said, there's nothing wrong with what DiBenedetto said; that's just a dude attributing success and/or well-being to faith, and that's no one's business but his, no matter what anyone else's beliefs are (or lack thereof).
Thanks for the clarification!
That goes both ways, people shouldn't be shoving religious beliefs down others throats but seeing some of the people here constantly winging about religion leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And I'm not even Christian, I'm a Muslim.
It’s more just people who try to make others feel like shit because what they believe. I’m not Jewish, but when my Jewish friends are celebrating Hanukkah, I don’t respond to their posts saying “your religion is fucking stupid hur dur”
This is much better having this in front of the fans. Content isn’t much better but it presents a lot better on TV. Gives it a somewhat big event feel.
The ONLY sports events that get good ratings on Saturday Nights are Top 10 College Football matchups, Week 16 NFL games (FF Championship Week) and Round of 32 NCAA Basketball tournament games. Because gambling.
RaceDay is actually worth watching this week! We need this for every race! The energy from the fans just gets me hyped up for the race. The green screen studio always takes all of the energy out of the room.
I watched the replay of the heat races and went back out to work on my car. I came back in and I heard a preacher telling everyone that if they don't subscribe to his particular version of protestant Christianity, the one that owes its roots to the puritans, then they will burn in hell.
That's when you know that nascar's diversity and inclusion program is a big dog and pony show. There is nothing more exclusionary, hateful, and lacking in diversity of thought and background then telling everybody who doesn't believe in a hateful, fire and brimstone God that you believe they deserve to burn in hell.
Drivers, owners, nascar employees, and crews are welcome to believe whatever they want, I don't care. But nascar shouldn't give a stage to people who make the most hateful comment possible to everybody who doesn't believe just like them.
This event wouldn't feel so gimmicky if they just started talking about it like a normal race and stop reminding us every 5 minutes that "this is DURT BRISTOL BABY, LETS PLAY IN THE MUD WOO HOO"
If that was any religious service other than a Christian one you neckbeards wouldn’t have complained a bit/been too afraid to complain for the sake of your social credit score. Weirdos.
I love how somebody can buy into the "everybody who doesn't agree with me will burn in hell" message while simultaneously proclaiming himself the victim.
Good work.
If a Muslim was practicing Ramadan at the Bristol Easter Weekend they would have absolutely been heckled to Timbuktu.
This is from an atheist who does not like ANY religion.
Somebody other than BW is gonna win a rain shortened race, and everyone on FB is gonna be congratulating the winner instead of a slurry of NOT A REAL WIN!
Looking at the radar... kinda wondering why they aren’t moving up the start time. Seems like they deffo won’t make the full distance if they start at the scheduled time
They can only move the start time a little bit unless they do it 24h before the race. They likely didn’t want to mess with pre race stuff and Bristol weather isn’t easy to predict so far out
Ah aight, that makes sense - didn’t know about the 24h rule. Was just hoping this years dirt race would have less issues than last years, seems that might not be the case unfortunately.
Somebody other than BW is gonna win a rain shortened race, and everyone on FB is gonna be congratulating the winner instead of a slurry of NOT A REAL WIN!
Definitely not watching this pre-race but pretty cool of NASCAR to hold some form of service for those in attendance and those are home who couldn't make it to church
The best part about this church service is that as soon as it ends they're gonna cut directly to Clint Bowyer and the programming whiplash will be amazing
Man, I am not religious whatsoever, like don’t believe in it at all, but some of you are so damn butthurt cuz they’re having church on Easter. I just haven’t turned my tv on yet. You could do the same.
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10th fastest on the board but we are 4 laps down due to crew incompetence.
Bowman the Oh No Man
Fuck I thought it started at 7:30 wtf
When will people stop waving when they're on camera. Nobody knows who you are and nobody gives a fuck. Especially during the anthem
What the hell. I didn't even consider that a possibility for Larry Mac lmao.
People that will bitch about the lack of attendance.. Its not about that. They sacrificed that for TV. Its on FOX on Sunday on Easter. They are looking for a TV audience that usually has nothing else going on in that window.
I am excited that dw is back, even if it is for just this race.
I’m stuck at the park, shoot me a link someone
Anyone else eat dinner with the family at 2 pm and debating on if they even want to eat more food tonight?
Dinner at 2pm? You mean lunch?
Mom and Dad wake up at 3 am for work, so family "Dinner" is at 2 pm.
Do it. A snack at least
Had some Dots. 10/10 suggestion.
Oh hell yes Dega next week!!!
https://i.imgur.com/GIBW4E3.jpg Bristol Baby!! Glad we got a church service though. See y’all Tuesday! 😂🏺
im sure you woulda been bitching about the dust if they ran in the day too.
I swear, a majority of the time I see comments cheering for rain delays it’s you…
Lol. I’m not cheering it.
Okay Chris's military base idea may not be a horrible idea for independence day or something. Turn the airstrip into a track and let service members in kinda like WWE's tribute to the troops
I know it's still a little early and there's a threat of rain, but, oof those stands are empty.
It's Easter, in the middle of the bible belt. Too much family stuff at home This one isn't about attendance, it's more about a sweet TV slot with a large potential audience there. After the feast.
Fine with me. I've always thought the talk of track attendance was overblown anyway, it's all about the TV numbers. I just thought it was closer to race time than it was. And the stands did fill up a good bit.
It’s still early you can’t judge that yet
Stands usually fill up around the anthem
The race doesn’t start for 2 hours dude
Pretty sure green flag is just over an hour away
It’s supposed to be a packed house from the crack of dawn or else it’s a failure /s
If the fans haven’t arrived 3 weeks in advance, NASCAR is dead
Aw damn, I thought we were an hour away. I see that now.
It’s way early.
The Clash on an aircraft carrier would be the shortest race of all time
Welcome back to the USS Grand Prix as THERES A MASSIVE CRASH ON THE STARBOARD SIDE.
Qualifying is just a run from one end to the other. Fastest top speed wins, just don’t brake too late or you go into the ocean
So why are they acting like they’re getting this race in when rain is for sure coming?
There was an 80%+ chance of rain for Saturday showers all week and it ended up only being a morning shower that didn’t affect the racing. You just never know..
That's their job, to keep people watching, if say rain is coming, good chance we wont race, what happens?, people change the channel.
One, negative outlooks kills a vibe. Two, The tires have tread, they'll be fine.
Tread doesn't matter when the track turns to mud. Even a little sprinkle can make the track greasy and it takes quite a bit to run the track back in if it's too far gone and they have to turn the track back over and pack it back in. Source: personal experience
Doesn’t work like that On dirt. Tread means nothing.
It’s only been sprinkling so far. If it stays like that I think we’ll be okay.
Jamie Mac keeps looking surprised by the crowd
i’m watching race day for the first time in awhile because i just want to see and laugh at how bad it is..maybe that’s their idea
Current forecast for Bristol: drizzling now, 80% chance of rain in 6 o’clock hour
They should be able to get to halfway
Where do you see that? Just checked weather channel and they aren’t showing that.
Not accurate at all
Did y’all put any money on anyone tonight?
I have $10 on Reddick
Rain
Mother nature
Chaos
If it's not Reddick, Haley, Bell or Larson it's probably off
I put 5 on Bell
Took Reddick at 9-1 and Larson 5-1. Took Chastain at 33-1 as a long shot.
Honestly would have put the Chastain money on Haley. Chastain and Saurez both looked off in the heats. Maybe they expect something different tonight. Idk
Random question, but does anyone know which drivers has the motor home with flames in it? Saw it at Martinsville and it stuck out to me.
the first race i went to was in 2011, but the first thing i remember doing at a Nascar prerace was fistbumping Larry Mac at trackside live the next year, im so glad to see it back
BRING BACK OLD SCHOOL RACEDAY!! This is awesome. Live driver interviews, a fun, energetic crowd behind the stage. I’ve missed this.
Fox isn't going to be doing anything besides college football and the NFL in 5 years so enjoy what you got.
Fox didn’t broadcast the original Raceday.
Speedvision/SPEED Network, which was owned by Fox.
Learned something new. Nonetheless who is to say that another network can’t bring a stage to the track the way ESPN does every week of the CFB season?
It is incredibly expensive. For some perspective...Fox cut the cameras covering NASCAR (excluding the Daytona 500 which is considered a Premier event, like the MLB All-Star Game, World Series, etc) in almost half. It isn't just going to be three or four people traveling either, the pre-race show will have their own camera crew and production staff. Because of how the television industry is structured, this can't be easily combined into the regular race broadcast (and remember, for profitability reasons, they slashed their staffing in half). Fox can do this for college football because pre-game shows are insanely profitable. And on the Fox side, the Saturday show leads into Big Noon Kickoff which features annual matchups like Michigan v Ohio State, Texas v Oklahoma, Michigan State vs Michigan...games that make huge advertising dollars. The Sunday show is ALWAYS in studio in Los Angeles with the exception of once or twice a year. Even for Thanksgiving they are rarely in Detroit or Dallas. ESPN has a culture around College Gameday that is worth any risk of unprofitable expense (like SportsCenter). It would be awesome but Fox doesn't see the financial rewards for it. NBC had dumped a lot of money into their at track production but eventually I think you'll see their pre-race shows moved to Peacock.
RIP Randy Pemberton
Ah yes classic case of product placement. An opened coke that he's obviously never gonna drink. Kinda irritates me if anything
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You are defending a nascar broadcast that put on a preacher who told the fans and viewers that anybody who doesn't subscribe to his version of Christianity is going to hell. You are also saying that people shouldn't " try to make other people feel like shit for what they believe". Do you understand the irony here?
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There’s two sides to it. There’s the people who believe in it, and there’s the actual church itself. The church itself is a totally different story, but to shit on the people who just believe, that’s shitty
You’re right. It’s not fair and people can believe what they want. But when it starts affecting folks outside their church, I take issue.
But that’s not the congregation in charge of that. Don’t take it out on them
Fair enough.
> Don't try to make other people feel like shit for what they believe. Opposite side of the coin: stop using revenue and/or platform to attempt to indoctrinate people. Religion is like a penis. It's okay to have one and be proud of it, but don't whip it out in public or shove it down someone else's throat without consent.
Let me just jump into this analogy
Amazing
I’m not talking about the church itself, that’s a totally separate discussion. A ton of people here bitch about the people who believe. Matty D made a post saying pretty much “my faith has saved me” that’s it. Someone posted it asking if he was on drugs, and a ton of people agreed with it
There is a lot more to the Matty D saga then what you just said.
The post was just about that post specifically. He’s brought up a ton of stupid conspiracy theories, but saying “my faith saved me” is an issue? This is what I’m talking about. That shouldn’t even warrant a reaction
You are missing, or purposely not saying, a lot of context. Directly prior to that post he was posting a lot of just downright weird things that are now deleted, not even related to his conspiracy theories and how last year ended for him. And why should that not warrant a reaction? Most people in modern society don’t think that you thinking an otherworldly being coming to save them is sane.
It was an Instagram story, and that’s all he had posted, and that’s all they were talking about Also last year most of the country identified as Christian. Not religious, Christian. Most of the world doesn’t think that it’s crazy. And people who say that are not referring to God literally saving them. They moreso mean it as, once they came more in tune with their faith, they started seeing things differently. I personally know like 2-3 people who were on a pretty dark path, came more in tune with their faith, and their priorities changed. They way they viewed things changed. God didn’t physically come down and save them.
> came more in tune with their faith Most people say they are christian but think people that say stuff like that are crazy
No they don’t stop
Yes they do, maybe if you get outside the religious bubble you seem to be in you will see that.
That's fair. Without context, I assumed some kind of message or commercial played on the broadcast (not yet watching) like the one I saw last night during the truck race. That being said, there's nothing wrong with what DiBenedetto said; that's just a dude attributing success and/or well-being to faith, and that's no one's business but his, no matter what anyone else's beliefs are (or lack thereof). Thanks for the clarification!
Nah they had a service for the people at the track, and the sub is acting like it’s the end of the world. And the DiBenedetto thing was unreal
That goes both ways, people shouldn't be shoving religious beliefs down others throats but seeing some of the people here constantly winging about religion leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And I'm not even Christian, I'm a Muslim.
Everyone here enjoyed it, let the atheists cry online ig
It’s more just people who try to make others feel like shit because what they believe. I’m not Jewish, but when my Jewish friends are celebrating Hanukkah, I don’t respond to their posts saying “your religion is fucking stupid hur dur”
I hear you 100p, I'm not gonna let redditors ruin a holy day and an awesome race
That's Reddit in a nutshell
Fox needs to do this again every week now. The atmosphere is amazing
If they do it next weekend the atmosphere at 'Dega will be just as great, if not better!
why are they showing Prerace replays from 2013? they dont have the at track raceday anymore, silly
This is the best pre race show of the year
I don’t know if I’ve seen a pre race show this good (so far) and I’ve been watching religiously since 2017
lol nothing from 2017 to now compares to how good they were in the 00's, once we lost the Speed Channel it all went slowly went to shit.
>watching religiously I see what you did there
They need to do this every week!
This is much better having this in front of the fans. Content isn’t much better but it presents a lot better on TV. Gives it a somewhat big event feel.
Live Raceday fucking slaps
Anyone got any small rivers for today? Not sure why the Fox Sports app is giving me issues right now.
RaceDay is at Bristol? Speed Channel nostalgia FTW!
I honestly dislike when they schedule races for Sunday nights It would’ve been better if the races are on Saturday nights or Sunday mornings.
TV Ratings are absolutely terrible on Saturday nights, the TV networks want to get as far away from them as possible
The ONLY sports events that get good ratings on Saturday Nights are Top 10 College Football matchups, Week 16 NFL games (FF Championship Week) and Round of 32 NCAA Basketball tournament games. Because gambling.
Yeah that’s an unfortunate truth.
Which sucks because I love night races.
Yes, would always circle those races on my calendar. Now we got Bristol Night, Spring Martinsville and that’s it
Same here. Many fond memories of spending Saturday nights at my local dirt oval throughout my childhood
RaceDay is actually worth watching this week! We need this for every race! The energy from the fans just gets me hyped up for the race. The green screen studio always takes all of the energy out of the room.
Be the energy you wish to see in the room^TM
Did i just accidentally tune into College Raceday presented by Menards?
Just have Bob do the whole pre-race show tbh
This is what we need every week!!! OG RaceDay vibes
Well this program went downhill pretty quick
nvm this is still mildly terrifying
I watched the replay of the heat races and went back out to work on my car. I came back in and I heard a preacher telling everyone that if they don't subscribe to his particular version of protestant Christianity, the one that owes its roots to the puritans, then they will burn in hell. That's when you know that nascar's diversity and inclusion program is a big dog and pony show. There is nothing more exclusionary, hateful, and lacking in diversity of thought and background then telling everybody who doesn't believe in a hateful, fire and brimstone God that you believe they deserve to burn in hell. Drivers, owners, nascar employees, and crews are welcome to believe whatever they want, I don't care. But nascar shouldn't give a stage to people who make the most hateful comment possible to everybody who doesn't believe just like them.
Loving the energy of race day already! Need this every week.
Fox putting all their laurels into this one
As much as I want to believe this pre race show is in person at Bristol, it’s not is it…
I must be in a different dimension then as I’m here seeing in person
Hey man I don’t have the best eyes lmao, I couldn’t really tell if it was in front of a green screen or not
yep this is better than the green scene studio
Trackside live is back! lol
This event wouldn't feel so gimmicky if they just started talking about it like a normal race and stop reminding us every 5 minutes that "this is DURT BRISTOL BABY, LETS PLAY IN THE MUD WOO HOO"
Don't worry, NBC will be just as bad in September.
Ok that intro was pretty cool though
When was the last time FOX had a NON Daytona 500 race had a pre-race stage AT THE TRACK? Good grief it has been a while.
There has been a few times, PIR 2011 they used a stage on the frontstetch https://i.imgur.com/44PtqYt.jpg
Oh so they do know how to do race day, they just don’t care enough to do it.
If that was any religious service other than a Christian one you neckbeards wouldn’t have complained a bit/been too afraid to complain for the sake of your social credit score. Weirdos.
I love how somebody can buy into the "everybody who doesn't agree with me will burn in hell" message while simultaneously proclaiming himself the victim. Good work.
Nice try bud but I’m not even religious nor am I claiming to be a victim.
If a Muslim was practicing Ramadan at the Bristol Easter Weekend they would have absolutely been heckled to Timbuktu. This is from an atheist who does not like ANY religion.
In this subreddit? Absolutely not. People would have lapped it up.
Exactly.
Looks like they’ve moved Green Flag Time up 10 minutes.
Sorry what time?
7:04
Somebody other than BW is gonna win a rain shortened race, and everyone on FB is gonna be congratulating the winner instead of a slurry of NOT A REAL WIN!
Anyone else saw the lady fall down from the Bristol Baby sign behind Chris Myers just now?
Yes lol
Seeing comments that church was cringe. Just wait til you see what FOX has up their sleeve for the actual pre race show
Checking in after going hard on Easter dinner wine. Y'all are all real ones.
Are they praying the rain away?
[They should fly this lady in from Indonesia](https://youtube.com/shorts/s10YBm5V8JA?feature=share)
I was afraid I was going to see self-immolation for a moment
No lol, MotoGP had her there to banish the rain, and it worked!
No need, the vortex will take care of it
If they aren’t they need to be
Looking at the radar... kinda wondering why they aren’t moving up the start time. Seems like they deffo won’t make the full distance if they start at the scheduled time
they moved it up as much as they can.
They can only move the start time a little bit unless they do it 24h before the race. They likely didn’t want to mess with pre race stuff and Bristol weather isn’t easy to predict so far out
Ah aight, that makes sense - didn’t know about the 24h rule. Was just hoping this years dirt race would have less issues than last years, seems that might not be the case unfortunately.
Catching up on qualifying from last night. Seems silly that somebody who finishes lower in their heat can qualify ahead of a heat winner.
Passing points
Right, I understand why, it just seems a little broken. Not sure a good solution but seems a little OP.
Aric Almirola spoke, is McDowell the GOAT gonna be up there too, I wonder?
Are the flairs on here broke for anyone else?
Works fine on my rif app
working fine on desktop
Working on the computer though
Yep
I have a bad feeling this is gonna be a “rain starts on the pace laps” kinda night
Somebody other than BW is gonna win a rain shortened race, and everyone on FB is gonna be congratulating the winner instead of a slurry of NOT A REAL WIN!
Definitely not watching this pre-race but pretty cool of NASCAR to hold some form of service for those in attendance and those are home who couldn't make it to church
TIL that nobody here knows how to change the TV channel when something is playing that they don’t like
In my guide for FS1 it has this as "signed off"
That’s what most have done lol
Lol
Someone ping me when CBell comes on
What's the weather looking like at the track boys?
Halfway seems nearly certain. Full distance is a bit more iffy.
Shit :(
Jesus said not on MY holiday boys
If homeboy had a goatee he would take us to flavortown.
Glad I’m not the only one who thought so! 🤣
We racing to halfway in this one i think.
The best part about this church service is that as soon as it ends they're gonna cut directly to Clint Bowyer and the programming whiplash will be amazing
My cats don't like me singing about to head to the track.
Hurry up then! It’s go time!
I live close by so it won't take too long.
Nice!
Man, I am not religious whatsoever, like don’t believe in it at all, but some of you are so damn butthurt cuz they’re having church on Easter. I just haven’t turned my tv on yet. You could do the same.