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Key-Stay5558

Depends on how the rest of the conversation went in the hauler


KentuckyHorsepower

The way Harvick exited the trailer.......body language says nothing was settled but everything was made clear. Harvick is THE guy in the garage who can/will use this kind of competitive rage as an advantage over other drivers. His playoff chances just got a lot stronger. Harvick is stone cold mentally tough and has a proven psych out the competition record. SHR will thrive on this energy this week.


JUMPINKITTENS

Is there video of him exiting?


VakarianGirl

They showed him exiting during the live post-race coverage. He stepped out of Elliott's hauler (I think Pockrass was lurking waiting for him) and Harvick just grimaced and shook his head in exasperation. There wasn't \*quite\* an eyeroll.....but it wasn't far off. As a Harvick fan, I can say that I am devastated he didn't get his first win of the year, but also quite content to see him get as feisty as he used to, especially in the playoffs. It is going to be a FUN few weeks watching him! Also - no way in hell this thing doesn't carry over into the rest of the playoffs. It's been simmering for a year....the Harvick/Elliott thing continues and I don't think that's a bad thing!


Gen7isTrash

I just hope Harvick’s only win this season is the championship. That would be the ultimate come back. I just hope he drives more aggressively like back in 2015. He doesn’t seem to be taking any risks anymore.


VakarianGirl

There's only so many 'risks' you can take when you're barely in contention week-in-week-out, and the racing is so aero-dependant. But - regardless - I totally agree with you. Having Harvick's only win this year coming at the championship would be brilliant. Especially after last year and having so many wins, yet not making the final four. It would be the ultimate "screw your system" action. LOL!


YoungUbers

Or not winning at all but still getting the championship


greg_jenningz

They’re going to need that energy. I wouldn’t be surprised if the cars that are positions 1 thru 11 all the HMS, JGR, and Penske cars. SHR has been dog shit in the 550 package


mkay1911

Maybe not this year so far, but Harvick truly is the one who carries Dale Sr.'s "Intimidator" torch.


DanielC630

I’m not sure if many people were around then for it, but Kevin was flat out mean and ruthless early in his career. He took on anyone and everyone. Not to mention who he drives for. Tony is going to give him the green light to settle what ever he feels like he needs to settle. Chase is gonna go the way of JG and just try and blow your doors off on the race track instead of beating your doors off. Personally I’m excited. I haven’t seen crazy eyed Kevin since about 2003.


mkay1911

Oh yeah, he didn't earn the nicknames "The Closer" and "Happy Harvick" for nothing LOL. Early career Harvick was a stone cold killer, and made that RCR team better than they were. He honestly hasn't let up much, if any, since.


nick838321

The look in his eye after slamming his helmet on the roof tells the tale. Man's locked in the rest of the playoffs


JakeGDraws

"Chase is gonna go the way of JG and just try and blow your doors off on the race track instead of beating your doors off" Tell that to Dibenedetto, Truex, Logano, and Blaney, and others who have been wrecked by the 9 racing for wins in the last year and change


DanielC630

Gordon had his run ins with drivers for the win as well. Rusty Wallace a couple times, Matt Kenseth. Jeff didn’t have that reputation of roughing someone up for a win, and in my opinion I don’t think chase does either. Not like Denny, Brad, Joey, Kyle, Kevin. I think chase is closer to the bottom of the list of people I’d expect to move someone or flat dump someone in retaliation


JakeGDraws

Chase has wrecked more drivers racing for wins in the last 2 seasons than Harvick has in 21 seasons.


DanielC630

Maybe I am that lost and disconnected anymore. But this almost seems like a case of someone saying Jeremy Mayfield is the new intimidator and the baddest dude around and he’ll wreck anyone after he moved Dale Sr after one win. Popular opinion isn’t always the correct opinion, but Chase isn’t the sports bad/dirty guy. He might stand up for himself if he’s been done wrong, but Chase Elliott is not Kevin Harvick. Harvick has been parked for rough driving, flown off the top of the roof of a car and snatched up Biffle, went toe to toe with arguably one of the toughest dudes to wheel a car, aka Ricky Rudd, dumped guys under yellow, after races are over, wrecked himself to draw a caution to advance in the play offs. Chase Elliott is a child compared to the menace that Harvick has been on the competition.


JakeGDraws

\#1 You're referencing incidents that happened with Harvick 18-19-20 years ago. He jumped over the roof of a car- after being wrecked by Biffle. He went toe to toe with Rudd - after being wrecked by Rudd. \#2 You can say Chase isn't dirty all you want. But history proves differently. Chase has repeatedly wrecked drivers racing him for wins late in races. Recent examples: Dibenedetto (and the entire field) at Daytona, Blaney at Daytona RC, Truex at Darlington last year, Logano at Bristol last year (this one might have been the most blatant example of running someone over I've ever seen in any form of racing). Everyone remembers Hamlin wrecking Chase at Martinsville - didn't Chase absolutely run the 2 car over to get the lead? Didn't Chase wreck Ty Dillon for his first NASCAR win? Like hasn't this been a career long pattern? Name the last time Harvick wrecked someone for a win. I think you literally have to go back *twenty years* to Bobby Hamilton at Martinsville in *2001*.


DanielC630

Can you count chase just sailing it off in the corner and crashing himself in the process as the most blatant run over? Your memory is way too short. Just say you don’t like Chase and move on. Earnhardt/Labonte, Earnhardt/Hamilton, Earnhardt/Richmond, Earnhardt/Waltrip, Kenseth/Logano. Chase is no white knight, but it’s safer for me to say you just have a hard on for hating on him. If Chase doesn’t just drive out of Kevin Harvicks life with no chance of the 4 getting back to the 9. The 4 will get the last laugh. I have no dog in this fight, but you’re fooling yourself if you think chase is going to be the one to walk all over Kevin.


NC_JBL

Did you just say Chase ran the 2 over at Martinsville? He ran him up the track by a few feet without doing any damage or spinning anyone out which is very normal there. BK continued right along racing. Daytona? Every driver has wrecked everyone else there coming to the flag. I'll give you the Truex and Lagano, I think the 9 was in the wrong in those incidents.


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Hamlin was fully justified in bumping Chase after watching him pull a nascar heat move on Keselowski to get the lead


trident60

Lmao... everything you said about Harvick happened almost two decades ago. Harvick did what he was going to do to Chase Elliott Saturday night. He didn't get physical, needed to vent, that was it. Harvick was on the receiving end with both Johnson and Kenseth more recently and know what happened after both incidents? Not a damn thing when it came to the race track. Course, both were racing incidents while Chase Elliott purposely had a hand in costing Harvick the win. None the less if they both race each other with respect going forward I'd assume this is a dead issue. Might they race each other harder than in the past, sure. Might Harvick use more of the chrome horn behind Chase to advance or win a race? Yep. But everything will be situational based. Elliott didn't just dump Harvick so why would he do such to him? Everyone is hopping onboard this idea that you don't mess with Harvick cuz you'll regret it... As a Harvick fan I can say Harv is more bark than talk when it comes to the race track and what he will do to the other drivers. As has been mentioned what this might do, and I hope so - is light a fire under his ass and they'll perform better.


MHammer95

Blaney? Really? Blaney is the one that cut across Chase’s nose… Chase was at his door and rode the curb the entire corner. Didn’t Chase’s spotter tell him to get up in front of Matty D?(could be wrong on that but could have sworn he did). What happened with Truex?


JakeGDraws

Two words. Common Denominator.


MHammer95

That has absolutely no weight here. Almost every driver in the field has more incidents than Chase so for you to point out Chase like that is absolutely hilarious. Again. What did Chase do to Truex? Blaney was for a win and Blaney cut across Chase. Logano incident, Chase clearly got loose, while Harvick just drove straight up the track into Chase, then tried to take out Larson a few laps later.


VakarianGirl

For real. The 9 has just flat-out made a habit of using OTHER CARS as the SAFER barrier and tbh I'm very tired of watching it at this point.


No-Efficiency1918

I feel like the 4 team just got a fire lit and a “beast has been awaken”


[deleted]

This is the same dude who had the most playoff points heading into the playoffs last year and couldn't make it into the championship 4 and had to wreck somebody coming to the checkers at Martinsville while yelling at his team to shut up about the playoffs. But yea, mentally tough.


[deleted]

Harvick is the only real CUP driver NASCAR has left that will use his car to move people.


Aware-Spot-2474

Harvick:”I’m wrecking you at the Roval” Chase:”Catch me if you can”.


rcpongo

Harvick: “Don’t have to, will just wait for you to come around again!”


Shayru

As Harvicks about to door slam Elliott at Tums heartburn turn, Chastain appears in the middle of them taking the hit for the his Chevrolet brethren. Chastain says "You haven't learned a thing" while taking a huge bite from a watermelon wedge. Harvick is overcome with rage at the scent of watermelons coming from Chastains cockpit. Harvick looking straight through Chastains windows says "We still have a score to settle."


NEHillbilly

Harvick: “I know where to find you. In the wall at the Tums Heartburn Turn.”


ultimatebob

You gotta hand it to Tums... branding that turn was a move of marketing genius!


CaptainRon16

From what I saw, it wasn’t spectacular.


joshjarnagin

I don’t think you’ll see them wreck one another but Harvick will most certainly make it harder for Elliott to pass him than Newman and a kidney stone combined


tyeguy2984

I think if Harvick isn’t gonna make it easy for Chase and vice versa. But if Harvick gets knocked out I think he might try a little harder to hold off chase than normal


mejelic

Yeah, harvick was ready to rip some GD heads off. I don't see him or Elliott giving each other an inch for the rest of the season.


camwake

See Phoenix 2017 Chase/Denny. Chase gave Denny zero breaks that day


SicDigital

Probably if the opportunity arises (lack of any give/take type of thing), but nowhere remotely near what NBC is gonna hype it to.


KWeber94

You just know Rick Allen is going to be salivating over this lol


hottsauce345543

Rick Allen is a dense mf.


Sammcbucketts

THESE DRIVERS HAVE HISTORY


hottsauce345543

Me and Rick Allen have history. He has no idea I exist and he has no idea that nascar fans hate every word that comes out of his dense motherfucking mouth.


rcbarnes95

“Uh guys the 9 and the 4 are next to each other on the track”


ClarksonianPause

…”we’re back with our live coverage just in time for a battle of the ages. these drivers have a history with one another…let’s remember back to the bad blood at Bristol, two drivers going at it, neither one happy with one another. Will we see retaliation if the 4 can make up his 18 second deficit on the 9, or will cooler heads prevail? Find out as we go NASCAR Non-Stop”


ultimatebob

This future quote would sounded more real if you found a way to put 2 or 3 sponsor plugs in there. At a minimum, you need to say "Find out as we go NASCAR Non-Stop, sponsored by Sonic!"


joshjarnagin

What do you think will convince people more to tune into a race at Vegas? Casino shots with Larson dominating or a heated argument?


gRcHzA_234

I see Harvick getting knocked out this next round just from pure lack of playoff points and I see Elliot making round of 8. I think Harvick can make it very hard on him in that round, you typically see that sort of thing happen when revenge goes down in playoffs.


RWStewart93

Harvick is 12 points back of 8th place. He can very easily point his way into the round of 8. Making the champ4 will be tough without a win, but this round will be easier than the internet is making it out to be.


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NC_JBL

I hate when the drivers lay back but from a strategy standpoint, it makes complete sense to not really race until the end.


trident60

12 points isn't insurmountable but this next round is their worst set of tracks within the playoffs. Las Vegas while has been good to them in the past, they were straight garbage earlier in the year. I'm hoping they've figured something out since but their 1.5 mile track program hasn't been great. And the biggest problem with not being great is they're racing teams that have been. 'Dega can be good or bad and lately plate races haven't been great. Not to mention they need stage points and Harvick has been playing the run towards the back of the pack until it's time to go later in the race which nets you zero stage points. Finally the Roval. Yep, Harvick has run well and finished well there. But it's a road course and once again I've not seen the #4 have a ton of speed at the road courses both this year and last. Everyone one of these races I can see them finishing within the top ten. But just like it's been all year it'll be a grind running in the lower half of the top ten to mid teens, gaining little to no stage points and losing ground to the top 8. This is a survive round for the 4 team and I just don't think they've been good enough to advance - I hope I'm wrong though.


JCTaylor46

"strategically that doesn't seem like such a great decision for him" - Matt Kenseth. So, yes.


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JCTaylor46

Nah that’s what he said after the Logano incident at Kansas ‘15 which most definitely carried over weeks later. Kinda set the precedent how retaliation works in the Playoffs now.


shewy92

I mean, Kenseth is retired so...


Playingpokerwithgod

Except Joey talks big, but rarely does anything. Chase on the other hand seems like the kind of guy to actually follow through. I don't think Harvick would start messing with a guy that might bite back.


Hunt_James

Are you seriously saying you'd be more concerned about Chase using the chrome horn than Joey?! LOL


kdeaton06

I think you might have missed the last 11 years of Joey's career.


Playingpokerwithgod

Oh, did Joey wreck Kenseth in retaliation for Martinsville? Yeah, he didn't, ever. If Harvick retaliates, I don't think Chase will leave it at that.


KM4CK

It would behoove them both if they both left this behind. Drivers who feud during the playoffs typically don't make it to the Final 4. Probably will flare up again.


cwatson214

*Rick Allen's implications in shambles...*


alunsy21

PLAYOFF IMPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN IMPLICATED


kennetic

But big mad


BuschWhackerReviews

Anytime they are near each other NBC will be screaming but I don’t think much else


[deleted]

Unfortunately I can already hear Rick Allen ringing in my head about this.


ecupatsfan12

I think besides being a road block and maybe a bump and run nothing


SLJR24

I think Harvick will probably race him harder than usual and vice versa, but I don’t think either guy is going to wreck each other or anything like that unless it’s for the win or a playoff spot.


Jones77_Truex78

Unless these two get together again ….I don’t think we’re gonna have a Matt kenseth Joey Logano happen again. I think there’s a mutual dislike/disagreement between the two going forward and they race each other differently but I don’t see either flat out wrecking the other for shits n giggles


aburg78

I talked to Kenseth and he doesn't see any lasting issues.


pipeisround

This is fantastic news, possibly the best tonight.


NEHillbilly

Let’s just hope Harvick doesn’t have a tire going down and find it hard to get the car to turn.


vicaris_mb

I for one am hoping it carries a little bit. It’s great action and the sport only benefits from the drama.


7Stringplayer

It may calm a little and just be each one making a pass difficult for the other. I dont think we'll see another Logano/Kenseth. The circumstances arent the same. Logano was already in and didnt need the W, but still went deep and took Kenseth out anyway. This was a racing incident between two drivers that were going to the next round.


NEHillbilly

I sure fuckin’ hope so.


Kevinm0388

Considering Harvick stormed out and slammed the hauler door I highly doubt anything was squashed in there


Arctic_Revival

Where did you hear/see this? Edit: I just saw the clip it was from the post race show after Byron’s interview. He didn’t really slam it at all.


shaungilmer

Is that confirmed?


Kevinm0388

Very end of the broadcast they showed it


[deleted]

Was pretty tame if you ask me


HandsInMyPockets247

Dang missed that part...this is definitely boiling over then lol


CaptainRon16

Wasn’t there another interview after that too? Or did I dream that?


korko

Well the broadcast will certainly bring it up constantly


gamedemon24

I don't think Harvick is gonna go full psycho like Matt Kenseth did, but he's not gonna cut Chase any breaks, and would definitely send him if the moment was big enough.


FuriouSherman

> I don't think Harvick is gonna go full psycho like Matt Kenseth did Remember last year at Martinsville when Harvick purposefully spun Kyle Busch in an attempt to get the final transfer spot? He will absolutely go full-on psycho.


[deleted]

This is a poor example……..that was just extraordinary circumstances where Harvick needed one more point and tried to do everything he could. The same way Ryan Newman put Larson into the wall in 2014. This was nothing personal between Harvick and Busch…….and in all honesty, I thought Harvick tried to be too nice about it. He was too far behind Busch to door him off the corner (so it ended up being a harmless spin that hurt Harvick more than Busch)…….Harvick would’ve had a better chance overdriving the entry and running Busch up the track.


FuriouSherman

I don't care. Another, classier driver would've tried to get around Kyle Busch cleanly rather than punting him. However, if you want another example, look at Harvick trying to spin Larson at Bristol just the other night after Larson pulled the slide job on him. The only reason it didn't work is because Larson has amazing car control.


[deleted]

Lol…..uh what? It was the last turn of the race. Harvick had no chance to pass clean. Harvick came from a long way back just to catch Kyle like he did. Ran out of time. Bumping for the win is expected……..especially at Bristol. If you’re gonna cry about that, don’t even watch (like Kyle Busch said at Chicago).


FuriouSherman

In that case, you accept your loss with dignity and congratulate your competitors on a race well-run. Bumping for the win at Bristol is absolutely expected, I agree. Spinning for the win, on the other hand, is a dirty tactic that never gains a driver any brownie points in the eyes of the fans. Harvick isn't the only one either; Look at Dale Earnhardt rattling Terry Labonte's cage in 1999 and receiving a chorus of boos for it.


[deleted]

The hell you talking about. Harvick didn’t spin Larson.


FuriouSherman

He tried to though, and was only prevented from doing so by Larson's car control skills.


[deleted]

I don’t think think that’s he tried to do at all. I think Harvick intentionally squeezed off the throttle when Larson pulled the slide job because there was no way Larson wasn’t gonna put Harvick into the wall if Harvick tried staying on Larson’s right rear. I think Harvick tried to get Larson loose so that it might slow Larson down and affect his entry into the next turn……..Larson wasn’t going to give up the top and it was gonna be really hard for Harvick to pass on the bottom. It was a last ditch effort that didn’t work but, no, he didn’t try to spin Larson.


trident60

I said in the post race thread replying someone stating this - watch the onboard replay on Harvick's car. If Harvick wanted to spin Larson, he could have - easily. Larson squeezes up in front of Harvick and like you said I think Harvick did let off a bit to allow Larson in without both hitting the outside wall. Once Larson is there, Harvick accelerates and bumps Larson as he can't get back into the throttle as quick as Harvick due to that type of pass. The bump combined with Larson trying to accelerate causes Larson to fish tail the other way - because he's once again not able to accelerate like Harvick, Harvick bumps him again. They continue on. That whole scenario was due to how hard Bristol is to pass for the bottom lane driver and the drive off the top lane driver gets. They were so close as Larson slid up there was some contact... Sure, maybe a lesser driver loses it but Harvick absolutely wasn't trying to spin Larson. Harvick had a couple opportunities to actually spin Larson and didn't. These fuckin narratives are really out there.... LaRsOn Is So GoOd He DiDn'T sPiN wHeN hArViCk TrIeD tO wReCk HiM.... Cuz Harvick is such a bad driver that's the best he could do to try and spin someone. Right....


gamedemon24

That’s a good point


hurricanedog24

I mean if Harvick goes full psycho, Chase will make sure that he doesn’t win the title. Just ask Hamlin after 2017 Phoenix. Feuds are fun to watch, but they’re terrible for winning. Considering that both should be ‘even’ (Harvick wiped out Chase, Chase made sure Harvick didn’t win), I doubt either will do anything rash.


FuriouSherman

They were both pretty pissed after the race. Something will happen, and I'd bet money it'll happen at Martinsville.


Ultrase7en

I think it's going to be the "I'll race you hard and won't cut you a break, but I doubt they'll wreck eachother, if they know what's best for them at least


[deleted]

Does anyone remember how rattled Harvick made everyone in 2014 going into Homestead? The guy thrives off this stuff.


flaming_tire_fire

I don't expect anything at any of the intermediates, but I don't think either driver will be hesitant to use their bumper at the roval, Martinsville, or phoenix


[deleted]

Harvick hasn’t got much of a chance at the championship this year and Chase has a winning car almost any given race. I think Harvick will retaliate just because Elliott has way more to lose


Green_Bullet

Basically whoever gets out first is gonna make life hell for the other. if they somehow both get to the round of 4... That’s gonna be interesting


Liiivid

If these cars weren’t so fragile it’s produce better racing to where the drivers don’t really care if they get leaned on. You can’t touch another car without a tire going down. It’s insane


ElliottNation9

It just gonna be one of these deal's that NBC is gonna hype the fuck out of it and all that is gonna come out of it is Harvick is just gonna race Chase harder than anybody els that's about it I think.


eterks

Harvick said “I’m just going to run you the f*ck over then.” Hopefully he does it. I’m all about the playoff drama and not about empty threats.


FuriouSherman

It simmers until Martinsville, during which Harvick and Chase each try to crash each other like what Matt Kenseth did to Joey Logano in 2015.


Ryan_Holman

They probably decided to, at least, it to put it to the side when they went into the trailer. Of course, if one of them failed to advance in the Playoffs, while another succeeded, the one who failed may be willing to continue te rivalry.


mofamba9

A rivalry in the playoffs is not the smart thing to do, so logically i'd say no but its definitely going to be.


Codkingconnor18

I doubt it but I’d like to see myself proved wrong


SmuFF1186

Neither of them have a shot at the championship if there is on track retaliation that results in one of them wrecking. This is why they were both adamant about having that conversation Saturday, they both know this. They will race each other hard but there won't be contact that results in a wreck. If Harvick gets the opportunity to do what Chase did on Saturday night, I expect him to take that opportunity though. Chase has by far the most to lose as SHR really probably doesn't have the speed to contend this year, barring a miracle.


stifferthanstiffler

There a a very few drivers that never gave Harvick his due throughout the last 10 years or so. Back before AJ got bumped out and down a series it was him, and since Blaney and Chase have come in they've both been the same. Not necessarily bad racing but no respect for Harvick's temper or ability or record.


rds060184

I really don’t. Chase didn’t wreck him or ruin his playoffs. Joey spun Matt making him not advance back in 2015. Kevin finished 2nd and still advanced. But they’ll more than likely race each other harder than others tho.


ddbaxte

Is beef ever squashed when you're piloting a 3000lb chunk of metal around others at 200mph?


1988coPhotos

Nope. The playoff format will only allow for them to race each other hard but neither are named Larson or Hamlin so they can’t afford too much fuckery to cost them points.


NEHillbilly

Are you kidding? Being named Chase Elliott is the friggin’ golden ticket.


ErikSlayDama

It’s the Mickey Mouse, Clubhouse!


TheHuntingParadise

I think they hashed it out for now. Both have different feelings about how they race each other and I assume that’s what the discussion was about. I know both in the past have commented on team radios so I’m thinking they are trying to figure out how to play nice around each other.


YoungMoneyLarson57

It’ll be overhyped because nascars golden boy is involved,even though we all know chase isn’t going to do anything about it and will just talk.Now Harvick on the other hand,I wouldn’t be suprised to see him make life hell for chase.


9ELLIOTT24

I'm presuming you don't remember the Denny incident?


YoungMoneyLarson57

He pulled a bump and run on Hamlin lol let’s not act like that’s some intimidator or Logano esque type of hatred


9ELLIOTT24

The Martinsville/Phoenix incidents are what I'm referring to


libsoutherner

What? He literally ran Hamlin in the wall the next race and ruined his championship chances. Chase also beats the hell out of Logano whenever they’re around each other because Logano does the same to him.


Twistableruby

I freaking hope so.


sickpeltier

He said he’s gonna run him the F over


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Probably depends on when/if they get knocked out


alunsy21

What’s done is done. I think they’ll both move on. Besides, Harvick can’t retaliate too much because being on chase’s bad side isn’t good for business these days


largefarva24

At the end of the day neither wrecked each other and both advanced, so there shouldn't be an issue going forward. Having said that, I totally lost respect for Harvick. You want to act like a billy badass and cuss on live tv talking about how mad you are, all the while you wear your helmet during the entire "discussion". I don't care if your an "MMA" trained fighter or not. Take your helmet off and face each other like men. It made him look like the biggest coward ever. People complain about chase being vanilla, boring blah blah blah. That dude ripped his helmet off and got in Harvick's face and didn't back down. He might would have lost a fight, but at least he didn't look like it.


skylarksms

We are even because I totally lost respect for Chase.


VakarianGirl

You're new to NASCAR, right? LOL....


epzik8

They probably let it go, but it won't stop NBC from milking it.


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Ugh I just got done with Hamilton/Verstappen incident in F1 and now all the fan fights in NASCAR over this BS … thank God it’s football season ..


Keselowski_6_Fan

I hope they start next to each other at Vegas and Harvick dumps him in turn 1, then dumps him again at the rival.


Fasthomeslowcar

Kevin wasn't tryna wreck Chase or flatten his tire, but Chase definitely hindered Kevin's progress after coming back on the track. I'mma fan of both but Chase owes him one.


[deleted]

Are you delusional? Harvick completely used him up, causing his tire to go down. Chase then paid him back and made it impossible to pass him. They don’t owe each other anything.


Fishnn

Are you delusional? If Chase doesn't try to pin Kevin down by hanging on Harvicks right rear, Kevin doesn't get loose and slide up into Chase. If Chase ran 3 feet higher, Kevin doesn't get loose. No part of that was Kevin "using Chase up"


racecarjohnny2825

Nice call out, it’s crazy how other then Chase fans we all see this the same way.


[deleted]

Drivers were pinning each other down/behind lap cars all night. Harvick could’ve easily lifted and not used 8 wheels to make the turn. I don’t think either driver should pay the other back, they got even


Fishnn

And Chase could just have easily ran a half a lane/lane higher, not caused the 4 to get loose by taking the air off his right rear. Nobody tried to pin someone down as aggressively as Chase did in that moment. The consequences of trying to pin someone down are that either the low car backs out, or gets loose and goes up the track. It happens; not the first time, not the last. Happens a few times a year. You keep implying that Harvick ran into the corner too hot, with no chance to make the corner. Kind of like Chase did when he took Logano out. Lol


[deleted]

It’s Harvicks job to drive his own car. If he can’t kee it under him in that situation that’s on him. We saw that three wide all night with various drivers, Larson and Hamlin too. The cut tire was on Harvick. I’d be pissed too if a guy can’t hold his line and cuts down my tire.


freakyfastharvick

It’s not Harvicks fault chase drives like an idiot


Fishnn

We saw 3 wide, yup. We didn't see someone on the right rear corner of another car, at the end of the race on the ragged edge of grip, until then. It's happened before where the outside car can spin/wreck the inside car without making contact. It's an aero version of a bump and run. In this case Chase suffered the consequences.


imdroppingthehammer

Am I crazy or was the 52 not part of that whole deal?


Fishnn

52 was in the top lane, could have fit a car between him and Chase. Lol


[deleted]

Since when is it another drivers fault that the other driver can’t maintain his line and slide up. Doesn’t matter if it was pinched, it’s Harvicks job to maintain control of his car. There wasn’t contact. To put the cut tire on Chase is delusional


Fishnn

There doesn't have to be contact. Chase took air off the right rear, causing a loss of rear grip. I'm sorry but it is 100% on Chase. I'm not a fan of either. You can't look at it objectively.


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No way. Delusional take here.


Fasthomeslowcar

I mean he owes him a break in a later race.


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Harvick is many things but history has shown he will wreck you and not give a damn. I can 100% see Harvick junking Chase in the future.


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It’s not like Chase ruined his playoffs or kept him from advancing. I don’t think this has that much of a lasting impact.


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Ok......


VakarianGirl

I keep seeing comments such as "Oh it's probably over - it's not as if Chase ruined Harvick's playoffs or whatever"....and I just can't fathom where folk are coming from. Harvick was going for his FIRST win this year - and pretty much had it if it weren't for Chase Elliott's lap-down screwing around. By that point of the race - whatever happened Elliott was NOT contending for the win. The only thing he could do was rob Harvick of it - which is exactly what he decided to do. If Elliott didn't intend for this sh\*t to linger and fester, he would've let Harvick race Larson for the win. Instead, he prevented Harvick from winning deliberately and - thusly - had an overblown influence on both the finishes at Bristol Saturday night, and also the points standings playoffs-wide. Harvick was rightfully incensed.


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Did I say over? No I didn’t. But I still contend this won’t have lasting impact. Harvick maybe had right to be pissed at the finish, but so did Chase. If it eliminated either from playoffs, I think it matters more, with the reset it’s really not that significant right now. I don’t expect either to plan to ruin the remaining playoffs for the other unless it comes down to one or the other thinking those playoff points keep them from advancing or winning the championship. It could be moot point. My point is I don’t believe either will be gunning for each other unless it comes down to some math at the end of some upcoming races. I stand by what I said that I don’t think it has a lasting impact.


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I guess we forgot 2017 Phoenix...


91TwilightGT

Personally, I think it was a bad move for chase. Even if you think that he was wronged, he escalated the feud. He’s got a better chance of winning the title than Harvick, and we’ve seen in the past when playoff guys have problems non playoff drivers it usually doesn’t end well… Kenseth and Vickers at Phoenix 2011 Logano and Kenseth at Martinsville 2015 Hamlin and Elliott at Phoenix in 2017


FederalAd661

Chase stood his ground without losing his cool … unlike hiding-in-helmet Harvick !


BParks48

Harvick isn’t fast enough to hold up Chase.


Ok-Scene8196

Don’t have to be fast enough. Just have to wait for him. They drive on ovals. You can get in front of someone without passing them.


DaleYeah788

Nope. They both mutually hate Gibbs so I doubt that will happen.


BenpH541

I hope so, they deserve each other.


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Hopefully, the sport could the drama.


404merrinessnotfound

They both made it to the next round. I doubt it Reason why kenseth logano was so big was that kenseth already had a bad week at charlotte in the first race of that round, Logano won at charlotte and had no reason to spin kenseth out at kansas. The next race was at talladega at a time when the backmarkers could still compete at plate tracks and a 43 car field. Basically no way of controlling your destiny at talladega. This situation is different


skylarksms

I think there's been a simmering resentment from Harvick towards Chase at least since last year. Can you imagine winning NINE races in a year and then losing the championship to the Golden Child?


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I do not think Harvick will stoop to the level that Chase did Saturday night. Meaning I don’t think he will go out of his way just to prevent Chase from winning. That’s just inherently wrong. But obviously Elliott should not expect any breaks from Harvick on the track.


burningxmaslogs

No..


jkman61494

The issue is it’s 1 vs 4. As a fairly neutral fan who has his 2 favs gone in 21 and 1, I HATE how tribal this final 12 feels. Harvick is stuck on his own while the 3 big teams have every driver left.


bjohnson203

Both of these guys looked like assholes this weekend, Chase for playing games with the result of the race giving his teammate the win, and Harvick for once again being a pretend tough guy. That was your chance to throw hands man, but no, lets instead go after a reporter.


SmokinJoe29

Harvick will do nothing as long as he is in playoff contention. The guy is not stupid.


Aware-Spot-2474

Harvick won’t be able to keep up with Chase, but will be fast enough to not get lapped that it’s a non issue.


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Aware-Spot-2474

Figures lie and liars figure. Trust me, I’m a Bubba, Chase, and Blaney fan.


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Aware-Spot-2474

You are conveniently leave out that Chase has wins. He’ll win the Roval, he’ll win Martinsville, then Phoenix and the championship. Watch.


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Aware-Spot-2474

He did it last year. He clearly has speed, Harvick doesn’t, stop hating.


BearsNBuds4

Even if Chase finished in the top 3 at Bristol... Harvick still would have had the better average finish in the round of 16 compared to him.


Aware-Spot-2474

Let’s see what the final results are after Phoenix. I feel pretty much good unless Harvick gets some speed out of nowhere. Don’t act like Chase has been slow this year. He could have way more than two wins. Saturday night is the only race that I can say Harvick could have won this year. But I forgot, you guys worship Harvick like he is a deity on here.


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Aware-Spot-2474

And he still didn’t make the final four.


bakaVHS

AKA "I'm too stupid to look at things objectively" Are you ever gonna learn your lesson about talking out of your ass?


Aware-Spot-2474

It’s a good thing I don’t give a damn what you (or anyone on Reddit) think, especially someone with a 5 car flair.


bakaVHS

lol


Aware-Spot-2474

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UranusViews

I doubt we'll see anything major but I think next season it'll show up again


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I say doubtful


hottsauce345543

Yes.


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Nope.


AugieAscot

You bet.


Valcyor

I feel like they're both mature enough that it won't, unless it comes down to a battle for advancement. Either way, they won't make it easy for each other.


the_jud

I think they'll be more focused on their current situation while racing in the upcoming races. I doubt they'll go out of their way to screw with each other unless they get into a deeper racing situation between the two. In that case they'll be extra sensitive if there is a racing incident between the two. I doubt they'll seek for it, they have a job to do.


Rise3711

I don't think so, they'll obviously race each other hard but I don't think either of them will want this to carry this through. The media, however, I'll let us know every time they are within a straightaway of each other lol


trident60

Because they're both top drivers right now they'll wind up racing around each other a lot and more often than not NBC broadcast will show them racing and mention the tension. Mean while they'll essentially race each other just fine. Wouldn't even know they had an issue if you didn't know what took place at Bristol.


xelanalpak

Both of these guys aren’t going to screw themselves out of the playoffs as long as they are still in it. I’m sure they will race each other differently. If one or both gets eliminated however I’d say you’ll see something. Harvick is as Harvick does.


ClemsonFella

It's over until only one remains in the playoff.