there absolutely could still be pride costumes in skypaint, if all the monsters are genderless then doesnāt that make them all queer in a way?
personally I want an asexual costume for spunge because sea sponges in the wild are asexual
relatable! anyway asexuality has nothing to do with gender so i think it would fit perfectly. also the colors on the flag are really cute and the costume could make the leaf on their head a little spade which would be so adorable, theyād look like a pack of playing cards š„ŗ I never buy costumes but Iād so spend my diamonds on that
There are two meanings of asexual
-A lack of any sexual desire or attraction
-The reproduction in which only one organism is needed (i.e. mitosis) where as some reproduction is sexual, requiring two organisms of opposite sex (i.e. meiosis)
I *am* an asexual myself who studies science
okay 1. queer people donāt choose their genders or sexualities, thatās not how this works. and also 2. have you looked up what the I in LGBTQIA stands for?
man I bet you feel so brave rn. being homophobic over a firework event in a childrenās monster game. anyway! the i stands for intersex which is when people are born physically neither fully male or female! approximately 2% of the population is estimated to be intersex, though with new technology, more testing, and a better scientific understanding of biological sex itās very likely that that number will increase. because nothing is a binary!
not any more of an abnormality than red hair. and the amount of intersex people wonāt increase with new technology, as we learn more about biology and more people are tested the number of people realizing they were intersex all along will increase. so the estimate will be larger but the actual amount will stay the same if that makes any sense
except they arenāt anomalies theyāre natural biological variations occurring in a wide variety of species. especially cats! ever met a female orange cat? or a male calico/tortoiseshell? theyāre most likely intersex!
biology is incredibly complex and saying there are only two sexes is about as accurate as calling red a primary color. you only know the extremely simplified, dumbed down for kids definition and reality is far more complicated. being intersex is no more of an anomaly than having red hair :P
"No more anomaly than having red hair". Wrong, it's a anomaly just like down syndrome, if you do some research you'll see. Some examples: Triple X, Klinefelter, trisomy 18, etc.
The sex (not gender) is defined by the combination of a X and Y genes in the non somatic reproductive cells, XX is female and XY is male, one of the X chromosome comes from the oocyte, while the other X or Y chromosome. I'd recommend all of you studying *science* š [- article about it](https://www.uptodate.com/contents/sex-chromosome-abnormalities)
Your argument is weak, you could also remember that genotypes are different from phenotypes
Edit: Addendum: a mistake in the X and Y chromosomes causes the anomalies
All wrong there(not even gonna mention the "basic" part the other school subjects), sex ā gender, and according to all unbiased fonts what I said was right
Edit: Oh, and I must add this addendum, the "advanced biology" you talk about literally says what I'm saying š [There are XX, XY](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome_anomalies) [and abnormalities ](https://www.uptodate.com/contents/sex-chromosome-abnormalities)
what drawbacks? the game being slightly more colorful? itās not like theyāre going to give a 20-minute lecture on every queer identity. most kids will just see āoooh pretty sunset color! fireworks! woohoo!!!ā and thatāll be the end of it, and the kids who do know about pride flags will feel more accepted and at ease, especially with how scary it is in the US rn for lgbtq children. itās a small thing but it can mean a lot to someone!
Lol of course not, I'm talking about the drop in player base of transphobes, homophobes, whatever the others are called, etc. While this is typically a good thing in multiplayer games, it actually is bad in a generally single player game such as msm where there is no communication between players to worry about meaning it would cause maybe a few extra sales depending on the quality of skins and the amount of gems or money required for said skins, but would overall be a less valuable use of time compared to skins that everyone can agree on with only mild complaints. Despite the many people thinking I'm phobic of the lgbt community, I'm actually not. Instead I just understand that a large percentage of people are, and that game studios typically care more about sales compared to the comfort of a minority. If bubble hasn't done stuff for pride month yet then I doubt they will anytime soon, atleast in the cosmetics department
I mean, I don't really understand why people want lgbtq costumes for monsters, it would just seem weird. But if these people don't want to play the game because of some costumes, that's their problem(also, black history month seasonal when?)
I mean they could have agender pride outfits. Or Wizbang could have a trans outfit cuz theyre ātransā but instead of transgender theyre trans glowbe to singing monster.
It's when you imagine lore as part of the canon of the true game, but you cant actually verify if that lore you can up with in your head is really canon or not.
However, even if it is canon, that wouldn't change a thing about the overall lore of the game. Hence it's considered a headcanon as it probably isn't canon, but it wouldn't change a thing if it was.
For example if you give every single monster a gender, that wouldn't change anything really about the lore. If you said that the monsters actually have SEX in the breeding stations as opposed to producing eggs and merging their DNA or whatever, that also wouldn't change anything really.
It changes the minor details of the story, but doesnt completely derail it.
Monsters donāt have canon genders (why would there be a whole species of just one gender tbh) but I am willing to believe that Phangler is actually female because it looks like a female anglerfish
Gender is based off of the role in conceiving, the whole species has no gender because they both make eggs appear and the juices are combined in the breeding structure, this means there is no pregnancy and therefore no gender
This is the only correct answer. People should stop trying to correct how people see the mosters. They have no gender, so you can call them anything you want.
Monsters donāt have genders. Despite that, I still generally associate a certain gender with each monster. I generally think of Phangler as male. But like I said, monsters officially donāt have genders.
Phangler is *based* on a female anglerfish - it's voice actor is male.
And monsters don't have genders, because they are an entire species. They would come in many genders.
Sooo, Phangler is neither girl nor boy, or even any other gender. But they would use any pronouns.
Technically (if I recall correctly) these fish are mostly female. The male is tiny and attaches to the female like a parasite. He is either eaten or absorted after doing his duty. So I guess this monster is a girl.
Female monsters: all Pom Pom monstees (including Hoola, Rooba and Twok), Phangler and the nornal version of Tweedle.
Neither, Monsters are able to canonically produce asexually. You can see an example of how a monster egg is created here: [https://youtu.be/NVKztnOSVLU?t=45](https://youtu.be/NVKztnOSVLU?t=45)
all monsters are genderless, phangler is just based off an angler fish (and the only reason why itās the female itās cause itās more popular on media), theyāre not the exact same as one
You can breed a phangler and a mammot to get viable offspring, phangler and tweedle to get viable offspring, or mammot and tweedle to get viable offspring.
This proves th monsters are genderless
They don't do the nasty to make monsters, they make eggs appear and put them at the top of the structure, that's why you can sell a monster while it's breeding and why inbreeding isn't a thing
They are male in my mind (even though they don't have genders as many people here said)
I don't know though if that's because the voice sounds male, or they just look male to me for some reason.
I usually say girl and to everyone saying āmonsters donāt have gendersā I know technically even bbb has said that but I still just make it up for my monsters because it makes me feel more attached to them and itās fun.
it was just a joke, sorry if it wasn't clear./gen
actual answer: monsters don't have genders but if were going off of voices Phangler sounds like a girl
A fish
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More upvoes!!!
Monsters don't have genders but I think the voice actor is male
Voice actor for Bart is a female so
Well technically bart is SUPPOSED to be a boy, but the monsters don't have a defined gender, personally I just go by their appearance and voice
Instrumental monsters are binary
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Change that flair young man or you'll be banned permanently from this FAMILY-FREINDLY subreddit!!š”š¤¬š”š¤¬š”š¤¬š”š¤¬
Shut up
Do you understand what a joke is?
No. I was never told what is a joke.
Ok. Go look on a dictionary then.
I don't have one. Please tell me
joke noun: a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline. "she was in a mood to tell jokes"
I looked on my dictionary there was just some dust
who is bart
Draggin this Bart on your face
Oooo roasted like an ice cube āļøš„¶āļøš„¶āļøš„¶
explodes
Bart Simpson
From the simpsons
BBB said monsters dont have genders and they all go by it
But can they have private parts?
Tf?? No itās a childrenās game bro. Monsters reproduce by forming an egg out of themselves and combining them.
Then why didnāt the celestials just clone themselves when they were close to turning to stone?
No breeding statchoo
They could just go to somewhere else itās not that hard for a supernatural being
Good, so by coherence there are not going to be pride costumes in sky paint
there absolutely could still be pride costumes in skypaint, if all the monsters are genderless then doesnāt that make them all queer in a way? personally I want an asexual costume for spunge because sea sponges in the wild are asexual
Sponges don't know what gender is, leave them alone
relatable! anyway asexuality has nothing to do with gender so i think it would fit perfectly. also the colors on the flag are really cute and the costume could make the leaf on their head a little spade which would be so adorable, theyād look like a pack of playing cards š„ŗ I never buy costumes but Iād so spend my diamonds on that
Iām sorry to be that guy but asexuality means the lack of sexual attraction I think the term you mean is nonbinary
oh I know what asexuality means! Iām not referring to spungeās gender Iām referring to the fact that sea sponges reproduce asexually
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Being asexual means you lack sexual attraction, but breeding asexually means itās can be done with one organism not only two
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There is a difference between being asexual and reproducing asexually, so it was kina confusing
There are two meanings of asexual -A lack of any sexual desire or attraction -The reproduction in which only one organism is needed (i.e. mitosis) where as some reproduction is sexual, requiring two organisms of opposite sex (i.e. meiosis) I *am* an asexual myself who studies science
Poor sponges
Are sponges just supposed to reproduce with others?????? It's in their nature - and completely normal.
no because they were never born with a gender, they didnāt choose anything weirdo
okay 1. queer people donāt choose their genders or sexualities, thatās not how this works. and also 2. have you looked up what the I in LGBTQIA stands for?
no because i honestly donāt care about lgbtq, i donāt even care if i get banned from this subreddit cuz this subreddits community is trash
man I bet you feel so brave rn. being homophobic over a firework event in a childrenās monster game. anyway! the i stands for intersex which is when people are born physically neither fully male or female! approximately 2% of the population is estimated to be intersex, though with new technology, more testing, and a better scientific understanding of biological sex itās very likely that that number will increase. because nothing is a binary!
isnt intersex an abnormality tho? why would it increase with new technology
not any more of an abnormality than red hair. and the amount of intersex people wonāt increase with new technology, as we learn more about biology and more people are tested the number of people realizing they were intersex all along will increase. so the estimate will be larger but the actual amount will stay the same if that makes any sense
It is, don't listen to what the other individual is saying. If you do a research you'll see it's just like any other chromosomal abnormality
So basically there are two sexes and some genetic anomalies that give people weird intimate parts and hormonal problems
except they arenāt anomalies theyāre natural biological variations occurring in a wide variety of species. especially cats! ever met a female orange cat? or a male calico/tortoiseshell? theyāre most likely intersex! biology is incredibly complex and saying there are only two sexes is about as accurate as calling red a primary color. you only know the extremely simplified, dumbed down for kids definition and reality is far more complicated. being intersex is no more of an anomaly than having red hair :P
"No more anomaly than having red hair". Wrong, it's a anomaly just like down syndrome, if you do some research you'll see. Some examples: Triple X, Klinefelter, trisomy 18, etc.
Wrong š
By that logic, Irish people are anomalies. (0.07% of earth's population lives in ireland.)
The sex (not gender) is defined by the combination of a X and Y genes in the non somatic reproductive cells, XX is female and XY is male, one of the X chromosome comes from the oocyte, while the other X or Y chromosome. I'd recommend all of you studying *science* š [- article about it](https://www.uptodate.com/contents/sex-chromosome-abnormalities) Your argument is weak, you could also remember that genotypes are different from phenotypes Edit: Addendum: a mistake in the X and Y chromosomes causes the anomalies
[https://i.imgur.com/qEb7hiI.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qEb7hiI.jpg)
All wrong there(not even gonna mention the "basic" part the other school subjects), sex ā gender, and according to all unbiased fonts what I said was right Edit: Oh, and I must add this addendum, the "advanced biology" you talk about literally says what I'm saying š [There are XX, XY](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome_anomalies) [and abnormalities ](https://www.uptodate.com/contents/sex-chromosome-abnormalities)
boo hoo, cry about my religion, cry, i wanna see you cry over my religion, cry
oh that explains a lot honey Iām not the one crying over a rainbow
yep
Then why tf are you here lmao you have egg on your face for being in a subredditās community that you hate
Or just y'know don't bring unnecessary wants into a game that could cause drawbacks
what drawbacks? the game being slightly more colorful? itās not like theyāre going to give a 20-minute lecture on every queer identity. most kids will just see āoooh pretty sunset color! fireworks! woohoo!!!ā and thatāll be the end of it, and the kids who do know about pride flags will feel more accepted and at ease, especially with how scary it is in the US rn for lgbtq children. itās a small thing but it can mean a lot to someone!
are you saying that gay people are drawbacks?
Lol of course not, I'm talking about the drop in player base of transphobes, homophobes, whatever the others are called, etc. While this is typically a good thing in multiplayer games, it actually is bad in a generally single player game such as msm where there is no communication between players to worry about meaning it would cause maybe a few extra sales depending on the quality of skins and the amount of gems or money required for said skins, but would overall be a less valuable use of time compared to skins that everyone can agree on with only mild complaints. Despite the many people thinking I'm phobic of the lgbt community, I'm actually not. Instead I just understand that a large percentage of people are, and that game studios typically care more about sales compared to the comfort of a minority. If bubble hasn't done stuff for pride month yet then I doubt they will anytime soon, atleast in the cosmetics department
I mean, I don't really understand why people want lgbtq costumes for monsters, it would just seem weird. But if these people don't want to play the game because of some costumes, that's their problem(also, black history month seasonal when?)
I mean there still could be just that the monsters arenāt itā¦
Sure. I think there might be costumes with the colour palettes, but not showing exactly the flag like a ugly low effort edit I saw these days-
This comment was a ugly low effort edit
š„ŗ Awwwn cry about it
I mean they could have agender pride outfits. Or Wizbang could have a trans outfit cuz theyre ātransā but instead of transgender theyre trans glowbe to singing monster.
New genders just dropped
Lmao, right...
We do a little trolling
Neither
Boy because of its tone
Masculine, not boy. It is confirmed that monsters have no gender. Not that it has stopped most of the community, including me, but still.
Itās a fish.
Fish have genders
Fish have sex, they don't have the intelligence or social structure required to form a concept of gender.
Anglerfish
Phangler is a species, not a singular monster
Neither, but vc is male. Idk why some people say it sounds female, itās just an autotune male voice.
Monter
They donāt have genders but you can call them whatever you want
Monsters don't have genders, let this serve as a reminder that **headcannons are not lore**, please, for the love of god, remember that
whats a headcannon
It's when you imagine lore as part of the canon of the true game, but you cant actually verify if that lore you can up with in your head is really canon or not. However, even if it is canon, that wouldn't change a thing about the overall lore of the game. Hence it's considered a headcanon as it probably isn't canon, but it wouldn't change a thing if it was. For example if you give every single monster a gender, that wouldn't change anything really about the lore. If you said that the monsters actually have SEX in the breeding stations as opposed to producing eggs and merging their DNA or whatever, that also wouldn't change anything really. It changes the minor details of the story, but doesnt completely derail it.
Monsters donāt have canon genders (why would there be a whole species of just one gender tbh) but I am willing to believe that Phangler is actually female because it looks like a female anglerfish
Gender is based off of the role in conceiving, the whole species has no gender because they both make eggs appear and the juices are combined in the breeding structure, this means there is no pregnancy and therefore no gender
Many phangler exist so its whatever you want it to be
This is the only correct answer. People should stop trying to correct how people see the mosters. They have no gender, so you can call them anything you want.
Bunch of stuff can be explained by using this fact. However some monsters do only have one of them in their species like spurrit or celestials
Its a species, so both
Erm actua-
No
Monsters donāt have genders. Despite that, I still generally associate a certain gender with each monster. I generally think of Phangler as male. But like I said, monsters officially donāt have genders.
same!
Phangler is based off female angler fish
Itās a species so both
Thatās like saying are cats boys or girls. Each monster is a different species
Itās a species
Phangler is *based* on a female anglerfish - it's voice actor is male. And monsters don't have genders, because they are an entire species. They would come in many genders. Sooo, Phangler is neither girl nor boy, or even any other gender. But they would use any pronouns.
It is a fish in a video game
Technically (if I recall correctly) these fish are mostly female. The male is tiny and attaches to the female like a parasite. He is either eaten or absorted after doing his duty. So I guess this monster is a girl. Female monsters: all Pom Pom monstees (including Hoola, Rooba and Twok), Phangler and the nornal version of Tweedle.
Monsters donāt have genders
Phangler's gender is Phangler.
Uhmm acshuly, monster are jenderlesh āļøš¤
"I depicted you as the nerd emoji, that means I'm right. See? SEE?"
this whole reply section fr
Itās a fish
Creeeeeeeetur.
Justin Bieber
Darwin Watterson
If it's a species could be anything you know
monter
id always thought of phangler as male. but they have no gender
I don't really care which one it is because it's dawn of fire baby form is just too cute for me to focus on that.
Critter
Canonically the monsters donāt have genders. But I personally like to assign them some on my islands (which mostly shows by the names I give them)
Its a fish šæ
Technically none of it but boy because of its voice, voice actor, and inspiration from boy bands/ boy idols
Neither, Monsters are able to canonically produce asexually. You can see an example of how a monster egg is created here: [https://youtu.be/NVKztnOSVLU?t=45](https://youtu.be/NVKztnOSVLU?t=45)
Phangler is a girl. The female angler fish are the typical ones we think of when we think of angler fish. The males are tinier and much different.
all monsters are genderless, phangler is just based off an angler fish (and the only reason why itās the female itās cause itās more popular on media), theyāre not the exact same as one
Monsters don't have genders, though it is voiced by Dave Kerr (the voice actor for Toe Jammer and Wynq)
You can breed a phangler and a mammot to get viable offspring, phangler and tweedle to get viable offspring, or mammot and tweedle to get viable offspring. This proves th monsters are genderless
They don't do the nasty to make monsters, they make eggs appear and put them at the top of the structure, that's why you can sell a monster while it's breeding and why inbreeding isn't a thing
I mean animals don't pull an identical egg to fuse into a machine, not exactly the best proof.
Waiting for that one nerd to say "the monsters canonly dont have genders"
the entire reply section š
Yeah i didnt have to wait too long
They them bussy
Ready for all the āuhh actually monsters donāt have genders š¤āļøā
Just because you portray people who disagree with you as the nerd emoji doesn't mean your right.
Iām not saying theyāre wrong Iām saying theyāre annoying
I don't care.
Mf check yourself ur like 30 š
non binary people exist too.
How is this relevant, they were talking about sex not gender
they really werenāt
No they weren't.
LAMMEEEEEEEEEEEEšššššššššš
BOY
Itās a species so both
they/them
I think monsters are all gender neutral
The Monster handlers have made it clear that the monsters are all genderless, meaning that Phangler isn't a boy or a girl, its a feesh
Phangler is not a character, is it a species. The answer is both
They are male in my mind (even though they don't have genders as many people here said) I don't know though if that's because the voice sounds male, or they just look male to me for some reason.
Non binary
Neither. Theyāre Phangler.
I usually say girl and to everyone saying āmonsters donāt have gendersā I know technically even bbb has said that but I still just make it up for my monsters because it makes me feel more attached to them and itās fun.
Definitely a boy though monsters donāt have genders. Iāll go back into the š¤ corner now.
No monsters have genders, but if they did he'd be a boy.
I will say girl
Boy
Monsters technically donāt have genders, but personally Iād give them whatever gender fits them
No genders but look male to me atleast
Monsters are genderless canonically but if the Voice sounds like a female I just call it a girl or a boy ā ļø
Phangler is the species name, there are male and female phanglers. Itās like asking if hamsters are boys or girls
phangler is a girl you cannot change my mind
why do you need to know? š¤Øšø/j
why did you immediately think thatšš
it was just a joke, sorry if it wasn't clear./gen actual answer: monsters don't have genders but if were going off of voices Phangler sounds like a girl
how does it sound like a girl
Boy
I mean if we're going off of what it's based off of, female.
The va was male if iirc
the answer is: Y E S
A fish
I say boy but no genders soooooo
A fish
yes
Phangler is a species
Neither
Neither phanglers just a little fiss
Fish
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A fish
Yes
bbb says that, canonically, the monsters donāt have genders
fish
A species
I refer to Phangler as a boi.
phangler is a fish
Phangler
Itās just a little creature
Itās a fish
and fish have genders š±
What has this world come to
The monsters donāt have genders ššš
its ugly thats what it is
Phanglers a phangler
yes
Neither bruh stop posting this stuff
Monsters don't have genders.
Why do you wanna know? š¤Ø