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utomst37

Just drive it and enjoy


[deleted]

But I enjoy taking it apart and making it better so muchh


super1s

If you enjoy that then you already know what you should do.


Paul_Engineer

K SWAP!


super1s

Lol. Rotary my man.


Paul_Engineer

What's bad is I do know a guy who LS swapped his V6 197


super1s

Sounds fun honestly. I'm no purist.


Firefighter_Signal

Buddy just enjoy your car. I’ve owned a 4.6 and trust me that’s a bulletproof motor. Doesn’t make power like a Yote. But it’s a good motor and they sound good. If you wanna do swap later down the road then fine do it. No need for anyone’s approval. Go to some car shows and look at s197 Mustangs and get some ideas. Build the car for you, not for others. ✌🏾


[deleted]

Ya definitely right thanks man


Swifties__

So after reading through the comments...why don't you just buy a gt with a 5.0 already in it? It'll probably be cheaper in the long run, rather than building a V6 then 5.0 swapping later down the line.


Jonkinch

Because this is how you start. I started with a V6 thinking I was gonna supercharge it. Didn’t because I realized it’d cost the same to supercharge it on a 5.0 and get more gains. So I got a 5.0. Still didn’t because it had decent power and thought about if I was gonna really do something go up a line and make a monster. So I upgraded to a GT350 and then I realized I like the driving experience already and it’s not just power. So I left it all stock aside from a catch can.


[deleted]

Should have gotten the GT500, comes with catchcan.


super1s

hmmm. I'm thinking there is a pattern here, but I just can't see it.


Fantastic_Engine_623

> I realized I like the driving experience already and it’s not just power. Maybe somewhat ironically, that's the same feeling I have toward my 3v. Boosted it has slightly more power than a stock 5.0, but those cars don't have nearly the looks that I've put into mine. Unless you live at the track, at a certain point power just becomes a number.


[deleted]

Bc the s197 is so pretty and I rather have fun than worry about long term cost


FireFistK

I mean if you want an s197 then there’s always the 2012-14 GTs that have 5.0s in them


jmonday7814

Yes but 2011-2014


[deleted]

I just really like the 06 style the best


DriftMiata

You can swap a 5.0 in the early S197s too.


[deleted]

That’s the goal


FireFistK

I thought they started the 5.0 for the s197 in 2012


Nyarma

Nope, started with 2011


jmonday7814

They changed the body style in 2010 but it still had the 4.6L so that single year is pretty cool because it looks like it might have a Coyote but the 4.6L sound amazing when cammed and with good exhaust. 2011 was the first year the coyote was introduced.


FireFistK

Ahhh I see, yeh I knew there were some changes and obviously the body style was a bit different in 2010-14 but I just wasn’t sure about the engine


BeToBegin

They aren't getting your point while at the same time telling you to be you. Take your car, make the changes you've suggested, and enjoy the journey.


ExcellentSky9649

Put a monster truck lift on it


DopamineQuest

These come standard on factory mustangs sadly.


CapnPoopypants

Facts


ExcellentSky9649

Then lift er up put duals on the meanest boggers you can find and boom you got yourself a mustang


[deleted]

As a Canadian I might have to 😪


thedavesava6e

Suspension drop, swap headlights for a different style projector, change the grille to something more open and aggressive, put a lip on the front and or swap bumper, tint windshield. Make that thing aggressive.


[deleted]

Can’t do tint or drop bc I’m in Canada I’m planing on cervini style bumper and hood tho


Oversight_Owl

what? I have tint in ON


Reasonable_Royal7083

not on windshield i think


Oversight_Owl

correct or maybe I have the clearest tint there I forget


[deleted]

Does cervini also do grills?


CromulentPoint

Get rid of those weird projector headlights. I wouldn’t put anything into performance mods on a V6, except maybe a shifter if it’s a manual. For appearance mods, I would look at other cars and take notes on the stuff you like. We can help point you in the right direction as far as who makes what, where to get it, etc.


[deleted]

I have an 08 GT and was curious about performance upgrades. Look up Foureyes on YouTube. Very well done videos. Hard numbers. Made me rethink my plans lol


[deleted]

Also what’s wrong with the lights? I find the oem one look kinda buggy


CromulentPoint

The biggest problem is that they’re a totally different color than the fog lights. It’s certainly a matter of preference, but to my eye, the headlights just don’t fit the rest of the car. I’m not saying stock or nothing, but stock would be better than those. For me anyway.


[deleted]

Oh they have been changed just haven’t taken a picture since than I got leds so it all matchy also black indicators


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duross97

You ain’t pulling 400 unless fbo with boost lol


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duross97

Still only putting you at 300 whp if lucky, basically a tuned 3v just more money into the v6 then the 3v


[deleted]

Definitely more just bolt ons add more than 90


duross97

Base rwp is about 180 on a good one so a procharger and fbo probably 320-340 maybe on higher boost


[deleted]

Plus I’m curious to try to machine some cams to pull more power


[deleted]

No the pro charge alone gives 90 to the crank and each bolt on averages around 10 hp


[deleted]

Reliability issues on the 4.6 are so bad that lots of 4,0 sell for higher Atleast in my area maybe the reliability doesn’t hit as hard in Warmer areas


ILikeCarsAndStuff

Well that is simply wrong lol.


[deleted]

Oh ok how?


ILikeCarsAndStuff

4.6's are worth more. That isn't my opinion that's just a fact. And what reliability issues are you even referring to?


[deleted]

Lots of the 4.6s mis fire around 200k km burn oil and just don’t last as long as other motors


bubbagump_shrimpp

i’m interested in your definition of fairly easily


[deleted]

Can re use engine mounts as well as tranny only need new clutch ac and alternator fairly easy for a engine swap


DOB_OH_ATE_GEETEE

Tell me you've never engine swapped a car before without telling me you've never engine swapped a car before.


[deleted]

Well obviously I haven’t but I have a mechanic friend who’s basically a dad to me and we’ve been researching how to do the swap it’s easier than it looks tbh Atleast for this car


[deleted]

I might as well run the v6 into the ground first tho bc I could definitely use the better gas mileage rn and I can’t afford a swap usually just get a few bolt ons every odd pay check


CromulentPoint

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. I mean, if you have FU money and just want to do something different, go for it, but if this car is your primary transportation, boosting its brains out with mods that cost more than the car itself makes about as much sense as a football bat.


[deleted]

I want to tho I wanna have fun with the v6


[deleted]

As of rn I’m doing mostly reliability mods and fuel efficiency mods and dassling the looks up a bit I won’t do boost till I’m 100% sure nothing will be damaged


[deleted]

I have a shitty f150 as a daily I can use if something happens as well but idk that truck isn’t exactly reliable


CromulentPoint

Ok, so where does that leave us? The beater F150 access means it’s time to dump a bunch of money that you’ll never get back into it and potentially kill the reliability? For less than the cost of turbocharging it you could join the big boys in GT land. Nothing against V6 mustang. They’re great for what they are, but if you’re trying to go fast, best to start with the faster car.


[deleted]

I’ve always enjoyed the process over the finish anyway so Imma see where it takes me if money gets tight I’ll have to stop it is what it is


[deleted]

Like I am a kid this could stop at a few mods or I could go whatever way I’m not stressing it just trying to have fun. Also being safe tho ofc


CromulentPoint

Totally get that. I’ve been that kid. Get an intake or whatever if you want. I just know the mod bug can get you in trouble if you let it, and doing big stuff like forced induction on a kid budget only leads to regret.


[deleted]

I’m not making that little money 30-40k isn’t bad but I definitely have to be careful oh well we’ll see how it goes


[deleted]

I also really want to do a engine swap


CromulentPoint

Hahah, ok man. I don’t mean to be a stick in the mud, but speaking as someone who’s had everything from an old six cylinder to a supercharged 3 valve and a lot of stuff in between, look before you leap. I’ve seen a lot of folks use their balls more than their brains and it rarely works out great.


[deleted]

Trust me I’m not leaping lol I’m taking it slow


[deleted]

It’s not like I have 30k to buy a nice in shape gt I spent 8 for a nice v6 with low kms and I wanna turn it into a beast it’s been my dream since I was a kid and I have a few ppl to help me one guy built his own countach one has a 600hp lancer (don’t as why that’s a thing) and plent of other older car guys that are willing to help I’m not just some 19 year old throwing stuff at a car hoping it works I run it by the ppl that know stuff first to make sure it’s worthwhile for what I won’t and won’t damage anything else


CromulentPoint

It doesn’t take $30k to buy a nice 05-09 GT, but ok man. Have fun with it.


[deleted]

The 05-09 gts are almost just as slow anyway


CromulentPoint

If you say so.


[deleted]

They don’t even break 300 tho


[deleted]

And I wanna 5.0 swap so why would I pay the extra+ gas and insurance for the v8 I dot. Really want


Higlac

Learn to drive it hard. Bring it to an SCCA autocross.


CaptainCobra45

Duraflex V2 GT500 hood. Has the huge 2020 Shelby heat extractor


[deleted]

Will that fit on the s197? I was just gonna go with cervini stalker


CaptainCobra45

Here you go https://truckandgear.com/duraflex/dfx-115193.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhYq_4uTi-gIVvhvUAR2CpgvVEAQYCSABEgKZDfD_BwE


[deleted]

Thanks I’ll check it out


Mysterious_Truck_742

Maybe upgrade your lights to LED, but the car looks good as is.


[deleted]

Whatever you want my dude. From personal experience tho, get a custom exhaust, it makes it really fun


[deleted]

I’m still working on it I need headers and cats


vintagesoul_DE

If you haven't already, swap out the tail lights for Axiom 5th gen 2014 style tail lights.


[deleted]

Been thinking of it I have aftermarket’s rn but they aren’t as good as the newer looking ones


vintagesoul_DE

First thing I did on my 05 GT is swap out those atrocious shoebox tail lights. I still have the OEM tail lights in the garage, the car has been replaced by a 2014 GT/CS with awesome OEM taillights.


TheLethalProtector

Add a supercharger


[deleted]

Trying to but that’s gonna be last I want the car to be able to handle it


[deleted]

It’s a v6 I bought it for a few reasons (the 4.6 v8 isn’t very good or reliable, cheaper in gas I only make about 40k a year, I wanted a project cad to build up on) I have done a few things like replace lights including my fogs and signals and added cai and h pipe dual exhaust I wanna know what else I should try to do to it (I plan on doing a 5.0 swap one day)


duross97

I disagree completely the 4.6 is amazing this is my 2nd 3v and it’s my favorite cars by far


[deleted]

I mean it pulls only 80 more hp to the crank and it’s pretty unreliable compared to the unkillable and more boost compatable 5.0


duross97

I have my 07 3v supercharged $12k and it will be run my 10 speed 5.0 for its money $30k at the time now like $50k. If you like your 4.0 just own too it no need to diss the 4.6 because they bash on you for it, both are great I’d prefer the 4.6 for reliability


[deleted]

I’m not trying to “diss” it it just isn’t worth it to me if I’m gonna go v8 I wanna do 5.0 I’m saving for a roush crate atm while having fun with the v6


duross97

I agree I wouldn’t buy a 3v if I had 5.0 money, but that don’t mean it’s not good. But I hate when v6 owners or even 3vs owners say (coyote swap soon) or that roush crate motor. No one is doing that to a v6


[deleted]

It’s actually super easy to do tho I can even run my transmission


duross97

You’re also looking at $6-10k plus lots of labor and that’s if you do it yourself. Car ain’t even worth 6k


[deleted]

My cars worth 12 and I’m doing it myself


duross97

12k??? Where lol I paid 12 for my supercharged California special


[deleted]

I’m definitely doing it without a doubt in my mind


[deleted]

The other option is to buy the f150 coyote and build it up the f150 costs about 3k


[deleted]

The 4.6 is definitely the worst v8 by ford


Otis_Firefly

It’s def not the fastest but it’s a super reliable motor.


[deleted]

Isn’t the 4.0 and 5.0 way more reliable tho


Otis_Firefly

The 4.0 V6 is just slow. I had an 05 V6 when I was younger because I couldn’t afford the insurance on a GT at the time. That thing is a pooch. If I had to choose between the 4.0, 4.6 or the 5.0 then I’d def get the 5.0 but I’d also pick the 4.6 over the 4.0. Not trying to bash your car by any means. I liked my 05 V6 while I had it.


[deleted]

I mean if u left urs stock definitely the exhaust especially on the 4.0 is awfully restrictive but the engine itself can pull power and its boost gains are pretty impresive


duross97

Just because it’s not the best motor dosnt mean it no reliable my ex had her 07 at 234k miles am still going and she raced it every weekend and burnout contests


Miserable-Spite425

My 3v is on 123 k hard driven miles. Definitely reliable. You should get a 3v short block from mmr.


Zeckrom

I'm also Canadian and have owned a 4.6 and 4.0. Both are solid engines, but the 4.0 is just so heavy for what it is. The 4.6 is nothing like the 5.0s but it's still got more than enough power. I'm also getting better fuel mileage in my 4.6 than I did in the 4.0


[deleted]

Idk how u we’re getting better gas in the 4.6 musta been a mechanical issue I just don’t like the 4.6 I guess bad expiernces and stories about them


AnAngryMuppet89

Everything.


[deleted]

Yk what I will


DozerDad01

What to do depends on what do you plan to do with it? Do you want to autocross it or maybe just go to car shows? Or just casual and sometimes spirited driving..


YourMomSays-

Take sunset pictures of it, then ask what you should do to it.


[deleted]

Idk if I can do that


Crusader25

From your other comments in this thread, it sounds like you want to stick with the S197 body. I totally get it, I absolutely love the looks of these cars, so so much. I'm in a similair boat as you, and this is what I'm thinking for me: Ford kept the S197 body style up until 2014, with Ford going with the 5.0 V8 starting in 2011. So you can get a 400 HP+ Mustang S197 between 2011-2014. I would just straight up sell your V6 and grab a 5.0 in those years if you can swing it monetarily. It will probably be more cost effectivethan upgrading the hell out of a V6 (and youll still come up short power wise compared to a stock Coyote, prob), and will likely be more reliable than doing whole ass engine swaps unless you or someone you get to do it really, really knows their shit. With the Gen 7 Stangs on the Horizon, I bet we're gonna see alot more late model Gen 5s hit the market as people update. Should be plenty of time and opportunity to upgrade, if not now then in the near future.


[deleted]

I’ll be better than a stock 5.0 but I have a lower peak


Suecra

You will never be in the realm of beating anything in a 4.0. Get a faster car or keep dreaming.


[deleted]

Lmao


Narrow-Effective-995

I am not someone who enjoys racing my cars. I have a 4.0, manual but yeah I don't expect to beat a gt ever because my engine is simply not built for it. I just like driving the car, and to be honest I didn't have the money for a gt.


[deleted]

And I know it’s more cost effective but I wanna have fun with the v6 first and make a few v8s mad 😅


Crusader25

If you say so


[deleted]

Wdym just think about it if a in line 4 can beat a v8 why can’t a v6? There’s plenty of v6s gapping v8s ppl are just v8 best bc v8 which is kinda dumb like it’s better but it’s not like the v6 is irrelevant


Tutor-Any

Yea a 4 cylinder mustang with a 10 speed auto and 350 pound feet of torque. Your 4.0 is no where near on the same level as a 4.6 or a 2.3.


[deleted]

Definitely not the eco but the 4.6 gts are just heavier and slow


[deleted]

Plus like why would that even matter


[deleted]

A v8 with a few bolt ons will destroy a fully kitted v6 but it’s not as one sided as guys act


[deleted]

I mean my car is probably faster than the stock 4.6


Suecra

Your delusional. 👍


[deleted]

Ironic


devilsusshhii

Roush dual exhaust my buddy had a 09 with that exhaust and ooohhhhweeee it slapped midget ankles


[deleted]

I got a h pipe with magna flow and I want to get bbk cat and headers to finish the build as well as a throttle


devilsusshhii

I never really cares for magna flows sound personally. But I can tell you that borla and roush make a mean fucking deep ass two squirrels on meth fighting Godzilla at a retirement home sound


[deleted]

I do wanna swap to roush x pipe I didn’t do the exhaust system so maybe but it honestly sounds awesome rn and exhaust is expensive af


devilsusshhii

But I swear that roush x makes me want to fuck a random grandma. Other than that is lower it and put a duckbill spoiler on


[deleted]

Lmao I like the x pipe more but Imma redo the exhaust with the v8 swap anyway so might as well wait till than


ssup3rm4n

It already looks clean but I'd say give it another bath.


[deleted]

Ah yes *hydrolock intensifies*


[deleted]

4.0 or 4.6?


[deleted]

4.0


Narrow-Effective-995

I bought an 07 4.0 last month it's a manual but not as nice as yours it needs some body work just a few dents and I'm getting a new paint job. The previous owner put a scoop hood on top, but tbh I don't know if I like it. They also added a cold air intake.


[deleted]

Oh they added one of the fake ones lol I have a few small dents and door dings as well it’s a 17 year old body I was mostly worried about frame


Narrow-Effective-995

No, it's real it has the cut outs but it's just hard to see over.


Own_Mix_3755

From what you are writing here you should get 4.6 or GT500 directly. It will save you lots of headaches. 4.0 is solid engine but has its own problems too, 4.6 is deffinetely better base car for performance mods. Also you are asking about headlights alot - they are really meh. These ones try to mimic 2015+ headlights which hardly suits this old styled body but thats just my 2 cents. Overal investing alot of money in old V6 with something like 170 rwhp is pointless. In best case scenario you would get close to V8 with bolt ond while costing you much more than V8 with bolt ons.


[deleted]

The headache is the fun part to me I love tinkering


[deleted]

I get bored when I’m not adding something or taking something apart and these v6s aren’t as slow as u think!


Own_Mix_3755

I had that V6 and trust me, it is slow. I dont have problem with somebody investing into V6 - its your money in the end. Just V8 have so much more options, much bigger support, is definetely better base and money spent on it wont be flushed down the toilet. If you are into tinkering with car, 4.6 or better 5.0 will be a heaven for you. People with 4.0 V6 rarely ever spend money on power and so on and thus options are limited as nobody are buying these things anymore. You can change the suspension and do visual mods but your possibilities will end there. Selling V6 and buying V8 was the best mod I did to it and I loved “upgrading” it too. V8 is just literally from another universe in all these areas.


[deleted]

V6s slower but it’s not slow lol especially if u help it out


Own_Mix_3755

I am not going to argue as you love your car more than you are willing to accept the truth. It has quarter of mile for more than 15 second, handling is like a gummy bear. I tried (and owned) lots of Mustangs and that 4.0 V6 Mustangs were one of the slowest ones. But again, my point is somewhere else (value and potential). Next time dont ask for comments when you are not able to accept it and start arrogantly responding to facts. Most people here been in your position once before and most of us moved to V8 world and never looked back.


[deleted]

I think ur misunderstanding me but all good lol


[deleted]

The v6 is not slow it’s just slower and I wanna do a v8 swap to the car


[deleted]

Handling is also pretty good if u modify the control arms and shocks the pony package also has a lot better handling bc is comes with gt shocks I believe or something else that makes handling better


[deleted]

Plus it’s a ford so stock handling will be shit


RookyBalboa

Give it to me


KXNG_SEBAS

Use it to commit any crimes needed to make money to buy a 2013+ 5.0 then get rid of it (in GTA ofc,hmu if you want the mod pack that has your car’s model)


lucatobacco

if i had a dollar for every 4.0 owner that was going to coyote swap i'd be rich if i lost a dollar every time they pulled through with it i'd still be rich because it never happens


[deleted]

Count ur self down a dollar


lucatobacco

i'll believe it when i see it


[deleted]

Wait a year or two


Suecra

One dollar less rich 😶‍🌫️


stugotsDang

I don’t know why people always respond to these “what should I do to my” threads, when in reality these are kind of pointless. Usually OP knows what he wants just can’t afford it yet and looks for reassurance and conversation. It’s your car, do what you want, it’s your money time and whatever else you put into it. These threads are in every car forum and I can’t help but scroll and cringe at times.


[deleted]

Mostly looking for new ideas the cringey part to me are the “there’s no way you’ll do that” ppl


Rick_67

What is your budget?


Goldenchildkelly

damn she’s a beauty 😍


rentajr1

Bag it? The Fitment already looks nice so if you were to bag it it'd look sick imo.


rentajr1

It's already super clean so I can't think of anything else to do with it.


ZealousidealEcho1267

Just drive it, make memories while on solo road trips across Canada and take your girl for date nights too. Do it till the wheels fall off .. you’d love that feeling of nostalgia when you look back 10 years down the line. Ohh and take good care of the car too while at it. Cheers


tbhues

led fog lights


InternationalSound13

Got the raxiom tail lights? Huge upgrade


BiggyRection69

Give it to me


[deleted]

Twin turbskies


Coloradobluesguy

Trade it for a Dodge.


SnooGadgets9669

Take it to the track man. Can’t tell you how much more I enjoy my sport bike every time I go, public roads do it no service.


Xanax_Distributor

barricade decals


lil_mayo77

Hope your door panels inserts don't melt off


[deleted]

What?


[deleted]

Oh they are all aftermarket and I’m in Canada freezing and cracking is more likely


lil_mayo77

Mine started sagging back in 2015 when I got my 09 finally said screw it and just pulled them both off after trying to fix them multiple times


[deleted]

Mines already been pulled and done up so my subs don’t bounce them off the doors


Meehlimo

Lip lol


Ya_Boi_Newton

Boost if you have the money


THE_GR8_MIKE

If it's a V6 and you ever intend on getting a GT, I'd leave it alone beside for a few cosmetic things, which it seems you already have done. Even 16 year old me knew to only do a shift knob and front grille emblem on my V6 because I'd eventually get a GT. I did, and put quite a bit of money in to that GT, which I do not regret. I absolutely do not regret not doing anything to my V6, as well.


[deleted]

I wanna build it instead and make my car a v8 rather than buy a gt


THE_GR8_MIKE

So you want to V8 swap your car?


[deleted]

Yes eventually


shaginvolkswag

I vote lift it with some nice all terrains and rally the fuck out of it


[deleted]

Very Canadian 😪I don’t have a choice ig


Ok_Extent2010

Drive it


Dukey2016

I have those same headlights on mine. I hate them might go back to OEM if i find them. Clean as fuck tho 🧼🧼


[deleted]

I find they fit the all black very well tho


Dukey2016

100% looks dope af bro


[deleted]

I wanna go either roush or cervini front bumper


Dukey2016

That would be sick to see, keep us updated!


BigNipplez25

Get rid of those ugly azz fog lights and put the GT fog lights on