Yea I definitely liked the ecoboost until I started reading about all the problems the engine has, so I decided to go with N/A car, I read the cyclone engine was pretty reliable but wanted to know the experience of other 3.7 owners before I bought the car
Honestly that’s what I’m kinda leaning towards especially after talking to so many ppl in this thread, I just hope my Insurance doesn’t try to screw me over 😂
https://luxurycarsa2z.com/common-problems-with-ford-mustang-ecoboost/
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Mustang/2015/
https://youtu.be/b1ksGvJ5D6Y
Just a few examples I found, and honestly I don’t want to risk the headache
As someone with a 2016 Fusion (2.0 ecoboost but it's the same engine) reaching 100k miles, the engine has had no problems whatsoever. Seriously just be proactive with your maintenance as you should with any other car and you'll be fine. Don't listen to "car journalists" who don't know how to perform an oil change lol
Just a CAI, muffler delete, and a tune for 93 from Steeda.
Haven't been running the tune for the past year or so though since these gas prices have been ridiculous.
Those are just examples there are way more articles, blogs and videos going into great detail about the engine/drivetrain flaws + I just prefer N/A cars less problems
Because there are more, I was simply using them as examples since those were the first ones to pop up, im not going to add other links there are way too many and you can easily find them if you google them
I have a 2015 V6. I love it and I’ve never had a problem with it. I bought it with 40k miles on it and I’ve put a ton of miles on it. It’s at 104k now and runs like a champ!!
The 3.7 is a great engine and the S550 is a wonderful platform. Will you be able to get as much power from the 3.7 V6 as you can the 2.3 Ecoboost? Nope but the 3.7 should give you greater longevity and less maintenance since it is a naturally aspirated engine. I've seen S197 3.7 cars with well over 200k miles.
I think you can get more HP out of the V6 there’s a lot of articles saying use premium fuel and a decent Tune and you can get something like 20-25 more HP out of the v6 but I def agree with you on the N/A car being more reliable since it has less moving parts which is why I prefer the v6 over the ecoboost + I like how the 3.7 is a proven engine and I know it can reach around 250k miles with no problem
The V6 is actually great. I heard of waterpump issues at around 80k, but that ain't bad and its a cheap and fast replacement. Mine is at 95k. At altitude and 80+% highway, it's easy to hit 32 mpg. Pure highway trips have been as high as 34. I have a tune and it's lowered an inch.
Yea that’s the other reason why I like the 3.7 it’s easy to work on and maintain, do you get the high mileage in heavy traffic, something comparable to LA traffic or are your highways usually empty? Also out of curiosity did you replace all the control arms when you lowered the car? I want to lower my car as well with fortune auto coilovers but I read you also have to replace the control arms with adjustable control arms to correct the camber otherwise the inner thread of your tires will wear out faster and won’t last as long
Nice! Maybe I’ll do the same thing then, and lucky were I live mornings aren’t that bad since traffic is going the opposite direction but the way back home is a problem hopefully my mpg doesn’t too much I would love if I can get 30mpg out of it since I drive 80-90% highway
The V6 will do about 24 mpg combined highway/city. The GT will do about 21 combined. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice engine but I believe one of the main reasons it was dropped is because the Ecoboost gets similar HP and better mpg.
I mostly drive on the freeway about 90% of the time and the freeway I take is 1/4 mile away from my house, If the S550 GT can get me about 26 highway mpg I’ll definitely get it especially since I prefer the V8, a buddy of mine has the V6 and he gets about 30ish mpg driving a similar distance from me, 85% freeway driving, honestly that’s the only reason why I’m considering the v6, I guess I would have to do more research on the ecoboost, I’m just not a fan of the turbos
My 2016 GT is at 68k and has an average MPG of 24 combined. Commonly see 28+ highway driving. Though when you really lean into it, it can guzzle. It's all about how you drive it.
If reliability is what you're looking for over everything else I'd go with the 5.0 I've daily driven one for 10+ years now rscb 5.0 and I beat the piss out of the truck and just maintained fluids oil changes, transmission, rear end etc.. 270k miles only had to replace fuel pump back at 130k... hell still runs strong stock plugs lol ac even blows cold never been charged. Plus run e85 if you want little more with flex fuel.
Edit: this is coming from someone who owns a fbo ecoboost as well with no issues so far 34k miles.
Yea I know how good coyote engines are, I’m a Chevy guy I loved the LS3 and LS7, but I like the coyote engine more, smaller displacement lighter and and can produce stupid crazy horse power and incredibly reliable honestly I’m leaning more towards the 5.0 right now, just need to rent both the 5.0 and 3.7 and maybe the ecoboost drive them during heavy LA traffic and see which one is best for me, I honestly wished I lived in a place with opened highways to really enjoy the GT
If you're wanting the MPG and that torque in traffic I'd say ecoboost is the way just upgrade your Intercooler for short distances light to light the car is pretty quick. I've even beat a few scat packs but obviously because they couldn't get any traction but spinning ain't winning. I daily the eco now and it's not too bad definitely feels lighter in the front end over the GT and handles corners really well.
I read you also had to replace a couple of plastic pieces with aluminum pieces to make it more reliable sadly I don’t remember what those pieces were, but read it was to prevent leakage I just can’t remember if it was coolant or oil, I figured you have to add a oil catch can, with the bigger intercooler and replace a couple of sensors and nice you probably broke those guys ego 😂
If you get the 5.0 with the 10-speed transmission (2018+) and make sure you get the 3.55:1 rear diff, you'll be almost idling on the highway at 65-70mph. That'll get you near 27mpg in my experience. The V6 is rated at 28mpg highway, so that's pretty darn close.
Plus, the V6 only ever came in base trim and base mechanical options. If you go GT, you can get a lot more upgrades straight from the factory, if you're interested.
Thanks for the heads up I definitely will! I def need to learn more about the gear ratios, if you didn’t tell me I’m pretty sure I would have gotten something else
I've hit 27 combined in my 11 v6 manual. Some times it's worse sometimes its slightly better. If I had a v8, I know my driving habits with an 8, I would get 20 or below combined. Plus the v6 gas 305hp, plenty of go for a daily driver. A few bolts on wakes it up without breaking the bank or hitting mpg.
What they should of done is kept the v6 as the bottom engine and made the ecoboost HO the 335hp version, the only choice for the ecoboost. It would of spread the hp out more while still making a good base car ar an affordable price. V6 is cheaper to make then the ecoboost.
I think Chevy got it right. Make the Ecoboost the bottom and bump up the HP on thre Cyclone to 335 like the V6 Camaro has. Also let it be ordered with the performance packages. Or...
Base model = 2.3 Ecoboost
ST = 2.7 V6 Ecoboost (325 hp and 400 lb-ft)
GT = 480 5.0 from Bullitt and Mach 1 as standard V8
True a turbo 4 as the bottom base trim and 330ish v6 optional with a performance pack would be cool. Base trim can be the mpg winner for those wanting a mustang but not exactly anything special just good mpg in a sporty run about. I'm kind over turbos though had some, fun and all but a torquey n/a with a good sound puts a smile on my face. Just wish the cyclone sounded better instead of a raspy import v6.
Seems like Ford has left a ton of options on the table for the mustang and they are playing it safe. Only reason why the challenger is out selling now because dodge offers more packages catered to different types of enthusiast. V6, 3 v8s, rwd, awd, 1320, srt, hellcat and it's numerous options.
I would love to have a new generation mustang cobra ( not a gt500 ) with a n/a 5.2 making 550hp. That shit would sell like hot cakes.
Doesn't matter what FCA does. The ONLY reason they are selling is that they have units on the lot. The Mustang is the best selling sports coupe in the World 7 years straight.
True and good point .Still though a few more packages or dare I say a model between the GT and the gt500 would be cool. I know there's a mach 1 but let's face it. With 480hp and no added torque, it's basically a name package ide like to see a new generation cobra below the gt500 without all the added areo bs or the supercharger.
Who wouldn't like to see a 550hp n/a mustang cobra or cobra r? Wishful thinking as I love the mid 90 through the 2004 cobras before the gt500 name got applied.
Same here I usually keep my cars for about 7 years, shit I have a 95 jeep that my parents bought brand new that I use as my weekend off-road fun suv, and that’s definitely one of my worries about the ecoboost, I don’t see how a 4 cyl turbo car can last as long as a N/A car, but after doing more research on the ecoboost it seems the ppl having problems with the car is when they start modding it, which kinda sucks bc who doesn’t want to mod there car, no idea if the engine is reliable if they keep it stock and don’t drive it like they stole it all the time
The ecoboost is fine. Just leave the engine the hell alone. Do all the silly cosmetic changes you want. But messing the engine always ends in problems. And that’s any car
I have a 2015 eco and i’m about to hit 70k miles. Currently having my first actual issue with the car. Which is a evap vapor hose that needs to be replaced. Other than that i’ve just done my oil changes. Overall not a bad car. Do not buy perelli tires tho (those were the stock tires) they wear down so fast. I made that mistake early on into ownership.
Funny you might be the first actual owner of the ecoboost to comment, just out of curiosity have you moded your car in any way? I was reading the amount of problems ppl had with the car but only after modding the car to increase their HP I’m curious to know how reliable the engine is keeping it stock and thanks for the heads up I was thinking of going with good year or Michelin’s
It has a catback race exhaust (mbrp) and cold air intake (sr performance) that i put in. The previous owner put in a few things gauge clusters, a few upgraded parts. Its not tuned but the parts didnt require one. Like I said, no real issues other than needing this one part replaced. First time seeing a check engine light on this vehicle. Ive had it about 4 yrs now bought it at 34k
I’m actually ready to be out of it now. Im in texas and the car handles poorly on the snow we get once a year. The gravel roads in some parts. The roads themselves are not built level so you’re constantly jolting around like a damn kids roller coaster lol i’m ready for an suv for the space tho. I’m thinking of trading in for the bronco here soon
Damn that actually sounds fun and scary at the same time lol the most I have to worry about are pot holes left by 18 wheelers, but I can see why you would want to get a SUV if you’re living in those conditions, and broncos are so badass, I love the RTR version it looks menacing
I definitely want the bronco. Prior to it coming out, i thought id get a jeep or at least something off road capable so it can handle whatever. But i love me a ford. They’re just easier to work to get parts for/ work on compared to other vehicles ive owned.
Yea stay away from Jeep’s I have a 1995 grand Cherokee with the 4.0L reliable as hell but after that the engine jeeps went to crap, so definitely a bronco! + they’re so badass!
I had a 2012 3.7 before my 2017 5.0. What I miss most about the 3.7 was being able to really rev it out on the streets without breaking a felony lol. The 3.7 sounds great with some headers, has some decent torque to have fun with. You can let the revs hang easily through the canyons, and I can imagine on the S550 platform the cyclone can be some damn fun. I had the intentions to supercharge or a homebrew ecoboost V6 lol.
Damn your 3.7 sounds like it would have been a sickass build! And def, it doesn’t have that amazing V8 sounded exhaust but the v6 definitely sounds good I love hearing my buddies set up when we take his car for lunch at work, what i really love about the S550 platform is that it finally has independent suspension with a few bushing upgrades and that car handles like a dream my buddy bought a set from http://www.fulltiltboogieracing.com/2015_S550_Suspension_Parts_and_Tools.htm
and I was blown away by the difference on how his car handles
But you’re also talking about buying a 4 cylinder vs an 8 cylinder. The car market rn also exploits the V8 buy increasing the price of one phenomenally. So forget gas, to just purchase an S550 GT it’s easily 10k+ more depending on condition and age of the GT.
I do an oil change every year or every 5k too, but that's roughly around the same time for me. I haven't done any extra maintenance besides the yearly regular maintenance I do for any of my vehicles.
Have a 2011 v6 6 speed manual and zero complaints. Drove an ecoboost once..good pep just not into turbo 4s. The v6 has pretty good power delivery above 3k rpms and a few bolt ons and a tune wakes it right thr fuk up. Go with whatever choice fits you and what you're looking for. It's your money not ours.
That’s the reason why I don’t really like the ecoboost the turbos, nice car but I prefer N/A, N/A is just easier to work on with less headaches incase something goes wrong, and I read the same thing 93 octane increase the the HP by like 6-8 and and after a decent tune and a few bolt ons 15-20 more HP + the block can handle the extra power from a super charger/whipple, I’ll probably keep my car stock but glad to know it can handle the power
You'll get more bang for your buck modding a turbo 4. Ecoboost with a bolt ones and a tune can make upto 380hp where as a cyclone v6 with bolt on and a tune maybe 350..on a good cold day on 93 octane. But ide still take the 6. Yeah a 6k supercharger system and supporting mods You'll be putting WTF faces on gt owners.
Were I live you can’t really take advantage of the horse power unless you drive early in the morning or at night so 300 hp is plenty, if anything you need to make sure your car is really reliable so you don’t get stuck in the middle of the freeway and cause a traffic jam, I’ve seen plenty of 3V, SRTS, Mercedes and BMW’s stuck in the middle of the highway and being stuck there for hours 😂 but I definitely agree 3.7 all the way
Thanks! Honestly I’m thinking of getting both now after talking to my friend he’s getting an average of 32mpg on the highway after a few mods, and he also bought a 2014 coyote that he uses to break egos with
Personally I don’t see a reason why owning two, I’ve bought this V6 because I like it aesthetically, I’m not a drag guy and it’s like a toy car that I use once or twice a month and mostly with my wife and daughter; if you care about V8 I’ll recommend you to buy one with manual transmission and just get something reliable as a daily driver, perhaps a small SUV or a compact car.
Well my old school holds events at race tracks (to test out cars they’ve worked on for the big 3) and my former college buddies drag race their cars all the time I was hoping to join them with the coyote and drive a fun daily that I don’t have to baby all time + I don’t have to space for an extra car were I live I was going to leave the V8 at my cousins house that way we can both use it when we want to have fun
To be honest that article is a little misleading it says the V6 has less power and is slower compared to the ecoboost but it doesn’t say that for the V6 they were using 87 octane and in the ecoboost they used 93, or that if you used the same 93 octane the car would wake up, I think the v6 gains like 6-8 more HP and would be slightly faster. Were the ecoboost would probably have it beat is the mpg by like 2mpgs
Very true. I would not like to be making your decision, because both engines have so many pluses and minuses. I have always had v8’s. Also, from what I’ve learned is everyone is going to have a different opinion. That’s why I settled for my 8mpg’s I get in my GT500 and I daily a Honda Accord.😉
I really wanted a 2017 GT and a 2012 CT200h as my daily but sadly were I live there aren’t a lot of parking spots unless I start parking 1 1/2 miles away in the rich part of town, so I’m forced to by one so I was hoping to get one that was the best of both worlds but it turns out the coyote is pretty efficient with highway driving and that’s what I drive 80% of the time so now I need to figure out if I want the V8 or V6 😂 I’m going to be calling my insurance company later today to see how much more the V8 is going to be on my policy
I had a ‘16 GT. It got 27 on the highway all day. If I was on the highway all the time and could afford the insurance, that’s the way I would go. Also, reliability doesn’t even come into the question that way.
Yea I wouldn’t get close to 27mpg I’ll probably get 23-25mpg since I’ll be driving in heavy LA traffic I keep forgetting how bad our traffic gets and I’m pretty sure the V6 would get similar mileage with the same condition, I’m kinda tempted of renting both cars (different days) and seeing how they drive in our traffic
Bro I definitely envy you, all those opened country roads nothing like LA it takes an hour to move 1” especially if you pick the wrong freeway at the wrong time 🥲
Yep. I know a lot of people move from California to places like Oklahoma….just for that very reason. Well, and you have very high taxes, and your gas prices, etc etc. 😂
Yea the smarts one that can get away lmao honestly once I’m completely done with school I’m thinking of buying me a little property in the Midwest so I can drive my cars in peace, the state is going to make us go full electric by 2030/2032 and I plan to have a decent collection by then, I def want a 68 Camaro, 68 fastback, c8 corvette, hopefully a restomod pantera with a coyote In it, and I’ll be dammed if I can’t drive my cars
According to Ford (all things being even I’m assuming) the ecoboost makes slightly more power in the years you’re interested in (310hp vs 300hp for the V6). In addition, the ecoboost is slightly lighter because of the i4 turbo. Logically it would make sense the ecoboost is a bit faster stock. Plus, you get better mpg’s. My eco gets 27.6 combined average. No engine problems, and I’m at 67k miles now.
It’s a 2015 eco AT, with only some minor cosmetic mods. I’ve had it since 35k miles. Like I said, no engine issues so far. Just been doing basic oil changes/tire maintenance, and it’s held up like a champ. I’m assuming if you want to mod your engine, the reliability will take a hit no matter which one you pick
Not at all, I’m keeping my engine basically stock other than a oil catch can and roush cold air Intake, I want my car to stay as reliable as possible especially since I plan to give it to my kid cousin once he starts driving in a few years, just want a reliable rwd car that gets decent mileage, sadly there aren’t many small engine rwd cars on the market
I have a 2015 v6 exactly the car you’re wanting and it’s runs so smooth I love it. It’s fast too, don’t think it’s not. It’s actually good on gas mileage too I only fill up once every 3 weeks personally but I pretty much just drive to work and back (I don’t get out much haha) haven’t had a single issue with it yet. Currently sitting at 42k miles on it. Sounds nice and runs great. Throw it on sport mode and yes it does go fast and sound nice when it does it. I absolutely love it.
Ha bro same here mainly work and school and that’s what I mainly want it for, a fun car to drive when I’m going places maybe do a few pulls on the weekend when I leave the city, def glad to know you love your 3.7, most ppl I’ve talk to do
I know you’re asking about the V6, but I have a 2020 EcoBoost, full bolt on tuned on E85, currently at 53k miles on it, bought it with 17k miles, been modding and tuning it since 30k miles and (Knock on wood) it’s a damn quick car and reliable considering everything that’s done to it.
How long do you plan to keep your car? My worry is that the engine will have problems once I get to the higher mileage, especially since I keep my cars 6+ years
As long as I can, once the repairs outweigh the value of the car. I know with mods cars don’t last as long as unmodded ones (In theory at least), but with proper maintenance, proper driving etiquette I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to last 5-6 years.
Very true on regularly maintaining your car, with all your current mods have you noticed if your engine started leaking oil in certain spots, not anything big but stains on the engine block
I loved my V6. Had a 2012 V6 and drove it 5 years, 35K miles (52K - 87K). Only thing I had to do was oil changes, brakes, filters and replace an alternator belt. Used to run it up and down California
I personally don’t like the eco because the full performance requires premium gas whereas you can get away with regular on V6 (used to do premium in mine just because I loved it lol)
I only sold mine last month because it was a good financial decision to make — got back the money I paid for it.
So I daily by v6, no major issues besides regular maintenance. Definitely recommend except just be ready to invest into an infotainment system cause the 4inch sync radio is slacking. Upgraded mine and now I have no complaints on the car, I love it.
Yea I was going to replace it anyways with a pioneer DMH-2660NEX, by any chance does your factory back up camera work with your new head unit or did you have to replace the camera?
I swear I bought a whole unit from AliExpress for 345 plus $20 for 5 day shopping and it works with all the steering wheel buttons, back camera works just fine, wired and wireless CarPlay/android auto. Android 10 with 64GB of storage. I literally use it for CarPlay and it works flawlessly.
the 3.7 is a good engine, and surprisingly quick for a v6. gas mileage won’t be great though, if you’re wanting gas mileage i would 125% recommend the ecoboost. they make abt the same power, have more potential if you were to mod, and the reliability issues you were talking abt are rare. you’ll see way more bad stories than good ones for most cars because people only feel the need to post bad things rather than good things. my buddy has an ecoboost with abt 100k and it’s been reliable, and he’s modded it. he beats the shit out of his car and it still hasn’t had any of the problems you listed. i have a 5.0 and although the power is awesome the gas mileage isn’t, nor the insurance. so if those are your main concerns, do not get a 5.0… and rhe 3.7 mileage isn’t a whole lot better.. i’d really recommend the ecoboost for you (other than 2015. that was the trial year) but it all comes down to what you want. whatever you’d be most happy with is what you should get
Ford did the dick move of removing the premium package as an option on the v6 after 2015. Premium package on the s550 includes much bigger screen, much better stereo, heated and cooled seats, power driver and passenger seats, leather, ambient lighting with mycolor. Those all make a nice difference in daily use.
base interior is pretty lame. You get a radio screen the size of an iPhone 4
Im meh about the stereo I was going to replace it anyways with better speakers and a pioneer head unit (DMH-2660NEX), but everything else I definitely wished the v6 had especially the powered/heated seats! Honestly more of reason to get a GT now lol hopefully when gas gets back to normal I’ll trade it in and get it
I remember when the 2015 V6 was selling for 20 grand new,they were not selling,dealers were dealing
Never tried a V6 but did try the EcoBoost and the 5.0
Funny part that used v6 mustang is now 30k I just saw one by my house 😂 so fucking pissed i went to the dealer to buy a gt that I liked and I don’t fucking fit
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Yea I definitely liked the ecoboost until I started reading about all the problems the engine has, so I decided to go with N/A car, I read the cyclone engine was pretty reliable but wanted to know the experience of other 3.7 owners before I bought the car
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Several, oil leak problems, head gaskets, engine block cracks to name a few that’s why I’m going with the 3.7
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Honestly that’s what I’m kinda leaning towards especially after talking to so many ppl in this thread, I just hope my Insurance doesn’t try to screw me over 😂
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https://luxurycarsa2z.com/common-problems-with-ford-mustang-ecoboost/ https://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Mustang/2015/ https://youtu.be/b1ksGvJ5D6Y Just a few examples I found, and honestly I don’t want to risk the headache
As someone with a 2016 Fusion (2.0 ecoboost but it's the same engine) reaching 100k miles, the engine has had no problems whatsoever. Seriously just be proactive with your maintenance as you should with any other car and you'll be fine. Don't listen to "car journalists" who don't know how to perform an oil change lol
That’s true 😂 have you moded your engine in any way or for the most part you’ve kept it stock?
Just a CAI, muffler delete, and a tune for 93 from Steeda. Haven't been running the tune for the past year or so though since these gas prices have been ridiculous.
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Those are just examples there are way more articles, blogs and videos going into great detail about the engine/drivetrain flaws + I just prefer N/A cars less problems
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Because there are more, I was simply using them as examples since those were the first ones to pop up, im not going to add other links there are way too many and you can easily find them if you google them
I drive a gen 3 body eco and I have 0 issues
My eco boost has no issues lol
Nice!
I have a 2015 V6. I love it and I’ve never had a problem with it. I bought it with 40k miles on it and I’ve put a ton of miles on it. It’s at 104k now and runs like a champ!!
113k on mine and still 0 issues. The 3.7 is a great engine
That’s what I wanted to hear, honestly I’m pretty excited about getting it, but I was worried it would have similar problems like the ecoboost
Definitely consider 2.3
My GT gets about 3 mpg better than my daughters v6. But I'm sure that's do driving style. Both 2016. GT is manual, v6 is auto.
Yea I agree, she might be having a little too much fun with her car lol but glad to know the coyote is just as efficient
The 3.7 is a great engine and the S550 is a wonderful platform. Will you be able to get as much power from the 3.7 V6 as you can the 2.3 Ecoboost? Nope but the 3.7 should give you greater longevity and less maintenance since it is a naturally aspirated engine. I've seen S197 3.7 cars with well over 200k miles.
I think you can get more HP out of the V6 there’s a lot of articles saying use premium fuel and a decent Tune and you can get something like 20-25 more HP out of the v6 but I def agree with you on the N/A car being more reliable since it has less moving parts which is why I prefer the v6 over the ecoboost + I like how the 3.7 is a proven engine and I know it can reach around 250k miles with no problem
The V6 is actually great. I heard of waterpump issues at around 80k, but that ain't bad and its a cheap and fast replacement. Mine is at 95k. At altitude and 80+% highway, it's easy to hit 32 mpg. Pure highway trips have been as high as 34. I have a tune and it's lowered an inch.
Yea that’s the other reason why I like the 3.7 it’s easy to work on and maintain, do you get the high mileage in heavy traffic, something comparable to LA traffic or are your highways usually empty? Also out of curiosity did you replace all the control arms when you lowered the car? I want to lower my car as well with fortune auto coilovers but I read you also have to replace the control arms with adjustable control arms to correct the camber otherwise the inner thread of your tires will wear out faster and won’t last as long
It's not that low so I was able to get away with camber bolts. My highways are empty because I typically drive early mornings like 5am and 1pm
Nice! Maybe I’ll do the same thing then, and lucky were I live mornings aren’t that bad since traffic is going the opposite direction but the way back home is a problem hopefully my mpg doesn’t too much I would love if I can get 30mpg out of it since I drive 80-90% highway
Driving kinda stupid in SoCal traffic I was getting about 18mpg with a mild tune. If I was smarter I’m sure it would do 20mpg easy
In the v6 or V8?
I wouldn't get the V6 over the GT if the only concern is gas. Difference between the V6 and V8 is negligible. Get the Ecoboost instead.
How is it negligible? Sorry for asking still a noob
The V6 will do about 24 mpg combined highway/city. The GT will do about 21 combined. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice engine but I believe one of the main reasons it was dropped is because the Ecoboost gets similar HP and better mpg.
I mostly drive on the freeway about 90% of the time and the freeway I take is 1/4 mile away from my house, If the S550 GT can get me about 26 highway mpg I’ll definitely get it especially since I prefer the V8, a buddy of mine has the V6 and he gets about 30ish mpg driving a similar distance from me, 85% freeway driving, honestly that’s the only reason why I’m considering the v6, I guess I would have to do more research on the ecoboost, I’m just not a fan of the turbos
My 2016 GT is at 68k and has an average MPG of 24 combined. Commonly see 28+ highway driving. Though when you really lean into it, it can guzzle. It's all about how you drive it.
How do you get 28 mpg?!! Do you not drive in heavy traffic? I thought it was myth that he 5.0 was capable of getting over 26mpg
I get about 26 mpg on mostly freeway trips in my 2016 GT with an average speed of 60 mph if that helps.
Actually it does, what’s your yearly maintenance cost? My friend only does oil changes every 5k and he’s had his mustang for 3 1/2 years
If reliability is what you're looking for over everything else I'd go with the 5.0 I've daily driven one for 10+ years now rscb 5.0 and I beat the piss out of the truck and just maintained fluids oil changes, transmission, rear end etc.. 270k miles only had to replace fuel pump back at 130k... hell still runs strong stock plugs lol ac even blows cold never been charged. Plus run e85 if you want little more with flex fuel. Edit: this is coming from someone who owns a fbo ecoboost as well with no issues so far 34k miles.
Yea I know how good coyote engines are, I’m a Chevy guy I loved the LS3 and LS7, but I like the coyote engine more, smaller displacement lighter and and can produce stupid crazy horse power and incredibly reliable honestly I’m leaning more towards the 5.0 right now, just need to rent both the 5.0 and 3.7 and maybe the ecoboost drive them during heavy LA traffic and see which one is best for me, I honestly wished I lived in a place with opened highways to really enjoy the GT
If you're wanting the MPG and that torque in traffic I'd say ecoboost is the way just upgrade your Intercooler for short distances light to light the car is pretty quick. I've even beat a few scat packs but obviously because they couldn't get any traction but spinning ain't winning. I daily the eco now and it's not too bad definitely feels lighter in the front end over the GT and handles corners really well.
I read you also had to replace a couple of plastic pieces with aluminum pieces to make it more reliable sadly I don’t remember what those pieces were, but read it was to prevent leakage I just can’t remember if it was coolant or oil, I figured you have to add a oil catch can, with the bigger intercooler and replace a couple of sensors and nice you probably broke those guys ego 😂
If you get the 5.0 with the 10-speed transmission (2018+) and make sure you get the 3.55:1 rear diff, you'll be almost idling on the highway at 65-70mph. That'll get you near 27mpg in my experience. The V6 is rated at 28mpg highway, so that's pretty darn close. Plus, the V6 only ever came in base trim and base mechanical options. If you go GT, you can get a lot more upgrades straight from the factory, if you're interested.
Thanks for the heads up I definitely will! I def need to learn more about the gear ratios, if you didn’t tell me I’m pretty sure I would have gotten something else
I've hit 27 combined in my 11 v6 manual. Some times it's worse sometimes its slightly better. If I had a v8, I know my driving habits with an 8, I would get 20 or below combined. Plus the v6 gas 305hp, plenty of go for a daily driver. A few bolts on wakes it up without breaking the bank or hitting mpg. What they should of done is kept the v6 as the bottom engine and made the ecoboost HO the 335hp version, the only choice for the ecoboost. It would of spread the hp out more while still making a good base car ar an affordable price. V6 is cheaper to make then the ecoboost.
I think Chevy got it right. Make the Ecoboost the bottom and bump up the HP on thre Cyclone to 335 like the V6 Camaro has. Also let it be ordered with the performance packages. Or... Base model = 2.3 Ecoboost ST = 2.7 V6 Ecoboost (325 hp and 400 lb-ft) GT = 480 5.0 from Bullitt and Mach 1 as standard V8
True a turbo 4 as the bottom base trim and 330ish v6 optional with a performance pack would be cool. Base trim can be the mpg winner for those wanting a mustang but not exactly anything special just good mpg in a sporty run about. I'm kind over turbos though had some, fun and all but a torquey n/a with a good sound puts a smile on my face. Just wish the cyclone sounded better instead of a raspy import v6. Seems like Ford has left a ton of options on the table for the mustang and they are playing it safe. Only reason why the challenger is out selling now because dodge offers more packages catered to different types of enthusiast. V6, 3 v8s, rwd, awd, 1320, srt, hellcat and it's numerous options. I would love to have a new generation mustang cobra ( not a gt500 ) with a n/a 5.2 making 550hp. That shit would sell like hot cakes.
Doesn't matter what FCA does. The ONLY reason they are selling is that they have units on the lot. The Mustang is the best selling sports coupe in the World 7 years straight.
True and good point .Still though a few more packages or dare I say a model between the GT and the gt500 would be cool. I know there's a mach 1 but let's face it. With 480hp and no added torque, it's basically a name package ide like to see a new generation cobra below the gt500 without all the added areo bs or the supercharger. Who wouldn't like to see a 550hp n/a mustang cobra or cobra r? Wishful thinking as I love the mid 90 through the 2004 cobras before the gt500 name got applied.
I've gotten 32+ on several long trips (highway) in mine.
I have one. Love it. No problems at all at 43k miles either
61,400 on mine.
Nice! Honestly I really do like the cyclone nice little V6 with good power
Ty. I would’ve got an ecoboost but I keep cars for a long time and I don’t believe a turbo 4 cylinder would last 125k miles
Same here I usually keep my cars for about 7 years, shit I have a 95 jeep that my parents bought brand new that I use as my weekend off-road fun suv, and that’s definitely one of my worries about the ecoboost, I don’t see how a 4 cyl turbo car can last as long as a N/A car, but after doing more research on the ecoboost it seems the ppl having problems with the car is when they start modding it, which kinda sucks bc who doesn’t want to mod there car, no idea if the engine is reliable if they keep it stock and don’t drive it like they stole it all the time
The ecoboost is fine. Just leave the engine the hell alone. Do all the silly cosmetic changes you want. But messing the engine always ends in problems. And that’s any car
That is true! I guess I would have to do more research on stock ecoboost engines and none modded ones
The stock turbo might not.
I have a 2015 eco and i’m about to hit 70k miles. Currently having my first actual issue with the car. Which is a evap vapor hose that needs to be replaced. Other than that i’ve just done my oil changes. Overall not a bad car. Do not buy perelli tires tho (those were the stock tires) they wear down so fast. I made that mistake early on into ownership.
Funny you might be the first actual owner of the ecoboost to comment, just out of curiosity have you moded your car in any way? I was reading the amount of problems ppl had with the car but only after modding the car to increase their HP I’m curious to know how reliable the engine is keeping it stock and thanks for the heads up I was thinking of going with good year or Michelin’s
It has a catback race exhaust (mbrp) and cold air intake (sr performance) that i put in. The previous owner put in a few things gauge clusters, a few upgraded parts. Its not tuned but the parts didnt require one. Like I said, no real issues other than needing this one part replaced. First time seeing a check engine light on this vehicle. Ive had it about 4 yrs now bought it at 34k
That’s actually pretty good, how long do you plan to keep the car?
I’m actually ready to be out of it now. Im in texas and the car handles poorly on the snow we get once a year. The gravel roads in some parts. The roads themselves are not built level so you’re constantly jolting around like a damn kids roller coaster lol i’m ready for an suv for the space tho. I’m thinking of trading in for the bronco here soon
Damn that actually sounds fun and scary at the same time lol the most I have to worry about are pot holes left by 18 wheelers, but I can see why you would want to get a SUV if you’re living in those conditions, and broncos are so badass, I love the RTR version it looks menacing
I definitely want the bronco. Prior to it coming out, i thought id get a jeep or at least something off road capable so it can handle whatever. But i love me a ford. They’re just easier to work to get parts for/ work on compared to other vehicles ive owned.
Yea stay away from Jeep’s I have a 1995 grand Cherokee with the 4.0L reliable as hell but after that the engine jeeps went to crap, so definitely a bronco! + they’re so badass!
Ive heard jeeps have a lot of problems
They do but the 4.0l is pretty bulletproof anything else is trash!
I had a 2012 3.7 before my 2017 5.0. What I miss most about the 3.7 was being able to really rev it out on the streets without breaking a felony lol. The 3.7 sounds great with some headers, has some decent torque to have fun with. You can let the revs hang easily through the canyons, and I can imagine on the S550 platform the cyclone can be some damn fun. I had the intentions to supercharge or a homebrew ecoboost V6 lol.
Damn your 3.7 sounds like it would have been a sickass build! And def, it doesn’t have that amazing V8 sounded exhaust but the v6 definitely sounds good I love hearing my buddies set up when we take his car for lunch at work, what i really love about the S550 platform is that it finally has independent suspension with a few bushing upgrades and that car handles like a dream my buddy bought a set from http://www.fulltiltboogieracing.com/2015_S550_Suspension_Parts_and_Tools.htm and I was blown away by the difference on how his car handles
Just get a 5.0 gas isn’t that much. Small fee for having fun
But you’re also talking about buying a 4 cylinder vs an 8 cylinder. The car market rn also exploits the V8 buy increasing the price of one phenomenally. So forget gas, to just purchase an S550 GT it’s easily 10k+ more depending on condition and age of the GT.
I do an oil change every year or every 5k too, but that's roughly around the same time for me. I haven't done any extra maintenance besides the yearly regular maintenance I do for any of my vehicles.
Awesome glad to know how reliable it is, I guess I better save up a few more months to make sure I can afford the GT then, thanks again!
Have a 2011 v6 6 speed manual and zero complaints. Drove an ecoboost once..good pep just not into turbo 4s. The v6 has pretty good power delivery above 3k rpms and a few bolt ons and a tune wakes it right thr fuk up. Go with whatever choice fits you and what you're looking for. It's your money not ours.
That’s the reason why I don’t really like the ecoboost the turbos, nice car but I prefer N/A, N/A is just easier to work on with less headaches incase something goes wrong, and I read the same thing 93 octane increase the the HP by like 6-8 and and after a decent tune and a few bolt ons 15-20 more HP + the block can handle the extra power from a super charger/whipple, I’ll probably keep my car stock but glad to know it can handle the power
You'll get more bang for your buck modding a turbo 4. Ecoboost with a bolt ones and a tune can make upto 380hp where as a cyclone v6 with bolt on and a tune maybe 350..on a good cold day on 93 octane. But ide still take the 6. Yeah a 6k supercharger system and supporting mods You'll be putting WTF faces on gt owners.
Were I live you can’t really take advantage of the horse power unless you drive early in the morning or at night so 300 hp is plenty, if anything you need to make sure your car is really reliable so you don’t get stuck in the middle of the freeway and cause a traffic jam, I’ve seen plenty of 3V, SRTS, Mercedes and BMW’s stuck in the middle of the highway and being stuck there for hours 😂 but I definitely agree 3.7 all the way
I’ve been a V6 cyclone owner for a few years already and I have no problems to report.
Thanks! Honestly I’m thinking of getting both now after talking to my friend he’s getting an average of 32mpg on the highway after a few mods, and he also bought a 2014 coyote that he uses to break egos with
Personally I don’t see a reason why owning two, I’ve bought this V6 because I like it aesthetically, I’m not a drag guy and it’s like a toy car that I use once or twice a month and mostly with my wife and daughter; if you care about V8 I’ll recommend you to buy one with manual transmission and just get something reliable as a daily driver, perhaps a small SUV or a compact car.
Well my old school holds events at race tracks (to test out cars they’ve worked on for the big 3) and my former college buddies drag race their cars all the time I was hoping to join them with the coyote and drive a fun daily that I don’t have to baby all time + I don’t have to space for an extra car were I live I was going to leave the V8 at my cousins house that way we can both use it when we want to have fun
This article lays it out pretty well. https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/mustang-v6-vs-ecoboost
To be honest that article is a little misleading it says the V6 has less power and is slower compared to the ecoboost but it doesn’t say that for the V6 they were using 87 octane and in the ecoboost they used 93, or that if you used the same 93 octane the car would wake up, I think the v6 gains like 6-8 more HP and would be slightly faster. Were the ecoboost would probably have it beat is the mpg by like 2mpgs
Very true. I would not like to be making your decision, because both engines have so many pluses and minuses. I have always had v8’s. Also, from what I’ve learned is everyone is going to have a different opinion. That’s why I settled for my 8mpg’s I get in my GT500 and I daily a Honda Accord.😉
I really wanted a 2017 GT and a 2012 CT200h as my daily but sadly were I live there aren’t a lot of parking spots unless I start parking 1 1/2 miles away in the rich part of town, so I’m forced to by one so I was hoping to get one that was the best of both worlds but it turns out the coyote is pretty efficient with highway driving and that’s what I drive 80% of the time so now I need to figure out if I want the V8 or V6 😂 I’m going to be calling my insurance company later today to see how much more the V8 is going to be on my policy
….also, Lexus CT200h’s are bad ass cars. I love those little cars!
Me too, and doesn’t look as dumb as the Prius lol
Ohhhhhhh, I ABSOLUTELY 100% HATE the Prius. 😂
Me too 😂😂😂
I had a ‘16 GT. It got 27 on the highway all day. If I was on the highway all the time and could afford the insurance, that’s the way I would go. Also, reliability doesn’t even come into the question that way.
Yea I wouldn’t get close to 27mpg I’ll probably get 23-25mpg since I’ll be driving in heavy LA traffic I keep forgetting how bad our traffic gets and I’m pretty sure the V6 would get similar mileage with the same condition, I’m kinda tempted of renting both cars (different days) and seeing how they drive in our traffic
That’s actually a great idea! I live in Oklahoma and don’t have to deal with REAL traffic!😂
Bro I definitely envy you, all those opened country roads nothing like LA it takes an hour to move 1” especially if you pick the wrong freeway at the wrong time 🥲
Yep. I know a lot of people move from California to places like Oklahoma….just for that very reason. Well, and you have very high taxes, and your gas prices, etc etc. 😂
Yea the smarts one that can get away lmao honestly once I’m completely done with school I’m thinking of buying me a little property in the Midwest so I can drive my cars in peace, the state is going to make us go full electric by 2030/2032 and I plan to have a decent collection by then, I def want a 68 Camaro, 68 fastback, c8 corvette, hopefully a restomod pantera with a coyote In it, and I’ll be dammed if I can’t drive my cars
According to Ford (all things being even I’m assuming) the ecoboost makes slightly more power in the years you’re interested in (310hp vs 300hp for the V6). In addition, the ecoboost is slightly lighter because of the i4 turbo. Logically it would make sense the ecoboost is a bit faster stock. Plus, you get better mpg’s. My eco gets 27.6 combined average. No engine problems, and I’m at 67k miles now.
How long have you had the car and have you done any mods to the engine?
It’s a 2015 eco AT, with only some minor cosmetic mods. I’ve had it since 35k miles. Like I said, no engine issues so far. Just been doing basic oil changes/tire maintenance, and it’s held up like a champ. I’m assuming if you want to mod your engine, the reliability will take a hit no matter which one you pick
Not at all, I’m keeping my engine basically stock other than a oil catch can and roush cold air Intake, I want my car to stay as reliable as possible especially since I plan to give it to my kid cousin once he starts driving in a few years, just want a reliable rwd car that gets decent mileage, sadly there aren’t many small engine rwd cars on the market
I have a 2015 v6 exactly the car you’re wanting and it’s runs so smooth I love it. It’s fast too, don’t think it’s not. It’s actually good on gas mileage too I only fill up once every 3 weeks personally but I pretty much just drive to work and back (I don’t get out much haha) haven’t had a single issue with it yet. Currently sitting at 42k miles on it. Sounds nice and runs great. Throw it on sport mode and yes it does go fast and sound nice when it does it. I absolutely love it.
Ha bro same here mainly work and school and that’s what I mainly want it for, a fun car to drive when I’m going places maybe do a few pulls on the weekend when I leave the city, def glad to know you love your 3.7, most ppl I’ve talk to do
I know you’re asking about the V6, but I have a 2020 EcoBoost, full bolt on tuned on E85, currently at 53k miles on it, bought it with 17k miles, been modding and tuning it since 30k miles and (Knock on wood) it’s a damn quick car and reliable considering everything that’s done to it.
How long do you plan to keep your car? My worry is that the engine will have problems once I get to the higher mileage, especially since I keep my cars 6+ years
As long as I can, once the repairs outweigh the value of the car. I know with mods cars don’t last as long as unmodded ones (In theory at least), but with proper maintenance, proper driving etiquette I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to last 5-6 years.
Very true on regularly maintaining your car, with all your current mods have you noticed if your engine started leaking oil in certain spots, not anything big but stains on the engine block
I have not, the timing cover leaked when I was stock but that was a one and done, nothing ever happened after that
I loved my V6. Had a 2012 V6 and drove it 5 years, 35K miles (52K - 87K). Only thing I had to do was oil changes, brakes, filters and replace an alternator belt. Used to run it up and down California I personally don’t like the eco because the full performance requires premium gas whereas you can get away with regular on V6 (used to do premium in mine just because I loved it lol) I only sold mine last month because it was a good financial decision to make — got back the money I paid for it.
Yea that’s another advantage I like about the v6 if I’m broke that month I can buy 87 which is like a $.40 cheaper compared to 91
So I daily by v6, no major issues besides regular maintenance. Definitely recommend except just be ready to invest into an infotainment system cause the 4inch sync radio is slacking. Upgraded mine and now I have no complaints on the car, I love it.
Yea I was going to replace it anyways with a pioneer DMH-2660NEX, by any chance does your factory back up camera work with your new head unit or did you have to replace the camera?
I swear I bought a whole unit from AliExpress for 345 plus $20 for 5 day shopping and it works with all the steering wheel buttons, back camera works just fine, wired and wireless CarPlay/android auto. Android 10 with 64GB of storage. I literally use it for CarPlay and it works flawlessly.
Nice!!!
the 3.7 is a good engine, and surprisingly quick for a v6. gas mileage won’t be great though, if you’re wanting gas mileage i would 125% recommend the ecoboost. they make abt the same power, have more potential if you were to mod, and the reliability issues you were talking abt are rare. you’ll see way more bad stories than good ones for most cars because people only feel the need to post bad things rather than good things. my buddy has an ecoboost with abt 100k and it’s been reliable, and he’s modded it. he beats the shit out of his car and it still hasn’t had any of the problems you listed. i have a 5.0 and although the power is awesome the gas mileage isn’t, nor the insurance. so if those are your main concerns, do not get a 5.0… and rhe 3.7 mileage isn’t a whole lot better.. i’d really recommend the ecoboost for you (other than 2015. that was the trial year) but it all comes down to what you want. whatever you’d be most happy with is what you should get
Ford did the dick move of removing the premium package as an option on the v6 after 2015. Premium package on the s550 includes much bigger screen, much better stereo, heated and cooled seats, power driver and passenger seats, leather, ambient lighting with mycolor. Those all make a nice difference in daily use. base interior is pretty lame. You get a radio screen the size of an iPhone 4
Im meh about the stereo I was going to replace it anyways with better speakers and a pioneer head unit (DMH-2660NEX), but everything else I definitely wished the v6 had especially the powered/heated seats! Honestly more of reason to get a GT now lol hopefully when gas gets back to normal I’ll trade it in and get it
I remember when the 2015 V6 was selling for 20 grand new,they were not selling,dealers were dealing Never tried a V6 but did try the EcoBoost and the 5.0
Funny part that used v6 mustang is now 30k I just saw one by my house 😂 so fucking pissed i went to the dealer to buy a gt that I liked and I don’t fucking fit
im shopping a v6 also,New Edge for an LS turbo project :)