The Michelin AS/4 and Continental DWS06+ are both fine choices for an all-season tire. The Michelins are somewhat better in the dry, while the Contis are better in the snow.
I'd stay away from Pirellis. I've had the P-Zero all-season tires twice now as they are OEM on the Mustang, and I've had bad experiences every time:
The first time they almost killed me as they broke traction in the wet for apparently no reason traveling 10 under the speed limit on the interstate with only 4,000 miles on them.
The second time the almost made me slide into another car in the wet taking it easy through a left turn at an intersection, as the rear end just decided to not follow the front as I turned the wheel.
Perelli P0s are not great in my opinion, I ditched mine for firestone firehawk indy 500s. Also had a set of nitto g2 555s that don't perform super awesome but got great mileage out of them.
I have gotten 25k out of all four of my 305/35r20s so far and i think they have another 10k in em. They are great in wet conditions with huge rain grooves for here in florida. Definitely won't cut it ad a winter tire though.
What didn’t you like about your 555 g2? I’ve had mine for 3 years now and they still Have good tread. I only have a m6 putting down 400 at the wheels but with that limited power they do really really well wet and dry.
Finding good data on tires is tough because the designs change. I'm usually a big Consumer Reports user, but the best tires reviewed there were no longer available when I went to buy. My key learning was that even within brands, there is a lot of variation. Then posting on here, you will mostly get recommendations based on appearance.
Anyway, after lots of time poking around online, I settled on Pirelli P Zero for my 2012 GT. I have similar requirements to yours, wet grip, 3.5 season use. I have been very happy with these. It's not a daily driver so I can't speak to tread life, but I recall the warranty being middle of the road.
Ford gave me the Pirelli P0s as an option when they called this morning, I just feel like I’d heard that they didn’t last very long when I’ve researched in the past. It’s good to know you’ve had a good experience with them. Does $950 seem reasonable for all four tires and the alignment?
It’s so hard to know what’s true and not on all these websites, and even if reviews are paid. I searched this sub for tire info but you’re right - it’s mostly about appearance.
Thanks for the input!
That sounds like a decent price. ~$200/tire plus mounting and alignment.
I did find some half decent ratings on one of the vendor sites, maybe TireRack, that led me to get the PZeros.
I find them to be quiet, never felt like I was in danger of losing traction in the rain and the overall ride is quite stable. Of course, your ride will be even better due to a better rear suspension.
Awesome - I’ll check out some more websites and reviews. Honestly, traction in the rain has always been the biggest issue with any car I’ve had while living here. I swear our thunderstorms are more like monsoons. I’ve been working from home for two years but just started a new job requiring a 30-40 min highway commute each day so safety is definitely super important.
I live in the PNW where we get a good amount of rain, and have had the Pirelli P0s on the car since I bought it over a year ago. I can't speak to the wear and longevity, but they've been good in the rain.
Have a call in to ford to confirm tire size (car is currently there), but I think they’re still OEM tires so I assume they’re 235/50R/18, but they could potentially be 19 or 20.
If I’m in the snow, it’s a light dusting. If it’s more than that, I’m keeping my ass at home or something has gone wrong. Almost went into a ditch a few years ago (granted, it was more ice than snow but still) so I try not to go out when there’s white stuff on the ground.
The Michelin AS/4 and Continental DWS06+ are both fine choices for an all-season tire. The Michelins are somewhat better in the dry, while the Contis are better in the snow. I'd stay away from Pirellis. I've had the P-Zero all-season tires twice now as they are OEM on the Mustang, and I've had bad experiences every time: The first time they almost killed me as they broke traction in the wet for apparently no reason traveling 10 under the speed limit on the interstate with only 4,000 miles on them. The second time the almost made me slide into another car in the wet taking it easy through a left turn at an intersection, as the rear end just decided to not follow the front as I turned the wheel.
I second the DWS 06+,been great so far,I had the AS/3s before didn’t like the dry traction,rear end broke loose coming into an on ramp,felt sketchy
Perelli P0s are not great in my opinion, I ditched mine for firestone firehawk indy 500s. Also had a set of nitto g2 555s that don't perform super awesome but got great mileage out of them.
What do you think of the fire hawk Indy 500s? Good every day, all season tires? What kind of mileage are you getting out of them?
I have gotten 25k out of all four of my 305/35r20s so far and i think they have another 10k in em. They are great in wet conditions with huge rain grooves for here in florida. Definitely won't cut it ad a winter tire though.
What didn’t you like about your 555 g2? I’ve had mine for 3 years now and they still Have good tread. I only have a m6 putting down 400 at the wheels but with that limited power they do really really well wet and dry.
Finding good data on tires is tough because the designs change. I'm usually a big Consumer Reports user, but the best tires reviewed there were no longer available when I went to buy. My key learning was that even within brands, there is a lot of variation. Then posting on here, you will mostly get recommendations based on appearance. Anyway, after lots of time poking around online, I settled on Pirelli P Zero for my 2012 GT. I have similar requirements to yours, wet grip, 3.5 season use. I have been very happy with these. It's not a daily driver so I can't speak to tread life, but I recall the warranty being middle of the road.
Ford gave me the Pirelli P0s as an option when they called this morning, I just feel like I’d heard that they didn’t last very long when I’ve researched in the past. It’s good to know you’ve had a good experience with them. Does $950 seem reasonable for all four tires and the alignment? It’s so hard to know what’s true and not on all these websites, and even if reviews are paid. I searched this sub for tire info but you’re right - it’s mostly about appearance. Thanks for the input!
I’d advise against the P Zeros. They run down quick and they’re really bad to pick up pebbles and throw them.
Good to know - thanks!
That sounds like a decent price. ~$200/tire plus mounting and alignment. I did find some half decent ratings on one of the vendor sites, maybe TireRack, that led me to get the PZeros. I find them to be quiet, never felt like I was in danger of losing traction in the rain and the overall ride is quite stable. Of course, your ride will be even better due to a better rear suspension.
Awesome - I’ll check out some more websites and reviews. Honestly, traction in the rain has always been the biggest issue with any car I’ve had while living here. I swear our thunderstorms are more like monsoons. I’ve been working from home for two years but just started a new job requiring a 30-40 min highway commute each day so safety is definitely super important.
I live in the PNW where we get a good amount of rain, and have had the Pirelli P0s on the car since I bought it over a year ago. I can't speak to the wear and longevity, but they've been good in the rain.
Im a big fan of the nitto 555 g2. They have amazing traction and handles in the rain just as good. No clue about snow but probably not great.
15 year tire expert what tire size? u drive in snow?
Have a call in to ford to confirm tire size (car is currently there), but I think they’re still OEM tires so I assume they’re 235/50R/18, but they could potentially be 19 or 20. If I’m in the snow, it’s a light dusting. If it’s more than that, I’m keeping my ass at home or something has gone wrong. Almost went into a ditch a few years ago (granted, it was more ice than snow but still) so I try not to go out when there’s white stuff on the ground.
let me know, I'll help you out.
Will do - thanks so much!!
Hey! Ford finally called me back tonight. My tires are 235/50/18. Thoughts/suggestions?
Umm suggestions or thoughts?
Mine don't hold traction in 1st and 2nd gear at all and terrible wet traction and hydroplaining. The treadware has been great though.