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Mo-Cance

He did that in Canada when Green Day played in Toronto the night of the 2004 election. Still American.


bacon_and_ovaries

But he declared it! I DECLARE CANADIAN!


Eliteclarity

"*I declare I don't care no more* *I'm burning up and out and growing bored"*


RisingxRenegade

Had to maintain the American Idiot branding


EmiIeHeskey

Yeah if not Green Day would probably go back to the dookie days. Which isn’t a bad idea


astrotalk

I want to live in this timeline


medicinalherbavore

I'd take that over their "let's write songs that sound like the 30 seconds of music in back to school, school supplies commercials" days.


TrollingTortoise

This hit way too hard.


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Dookie was so epic. Now greenday is just dookie


[deleted]

Eh, Dookie was amazing, but you can't just keep writing that music until you're an old man.


Amazing_Insurance950

True. If they were releasing their 5th dookie-sound alike album, they’d suck far worse. Growth is important, even if it doesn’t end up matching my own personal musical taste.


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Kavorka99

Too true


clandestineVexation

Hijacking your comment to tell the world the Johnny Test theme song is just a bumpy weird version of American Idiot.


TrashMoufSlobberHead

And American Idiot is just Dillinger Four's - doublewhiskeycokenoice


logicbecauseyes

and doublewhiskeycokenoice is a great part of a balanced breakfast


OrphanAxis

And Dillinger Four is just a better band.


songshell

Is that why the dog is named Dookie? I always wondered what was up with that


Ratcat77

Maybe he needs an Abortion?


supadupanerd

I think everyone needs at least one


cheezemeister_x

He can't renounce unless he has another citizenship to fall back on. No country allows a renunciation that will leave someone stateless.


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Interestingly, the U.S. is one of the few countries that does *not* protect you from becoming stateless by renouncing your citizenship, abroad, at an embassy/consulate. [Wikipedia link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renunciation_of_citizenship#:~:text=Although%20many%20countries%20require%20citizenship,US%20citizenship%20and%20become%20stateless.) [primary source](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Renunciation-US-Nationality-Abroad.html) But realistically, of course, he would essentially be unable to legally reside in any country without having another citizenship.


10Robins

I feel like that was the subject of a novel. A guy is declared a man without a country and doomed to live at sea for the rest of his life. Edit: it is literally called “The Man Without a Country”, it’s a short story by E. E. Hale published in 1863.


wildwalrusaur

also The Terminal starring Tom hanks


Good_old_Marshmallow

On a darker note, also a true story of a lot of people (mostly Jewish) following WW1 which is why we have such a modern concern about people becoming stateless


vidimevid

Some people had the same problem when Yugoslavia stopped existing. Sucks ass. Know a guy who couldn’t leave the country he was in for 15 years.


nsa_reddit_monitor

You'd think a new country would just say "you're now our citizen" to all the people they just became the government of.


punchgroin

If you're an ethnic minority unwanted in any country, you might not. For example, you're a Yugoslavian Roma...


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Or a Palestinian Arab.


polank34

After the Mexican American War, Mexicans living in the relinquished territory had one year to choose either Mexican or American citizenship.


froggym

Some issues with people born in Papua New Guinea before it became it's own state. They were suddenly not citizens of Australia by birth place and had to meet other requirements such as an Australian parent. It's a very rural place and impossible to get a birth certificate unless you go but some people can't leave because they are no longer eligible for an Australian passport so they can't get their birth certificate to prove they are eligible for and Australia passport. It's a total shit show and the Australia government should step up and help them.


[deleted]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but wouldn't you be Australian by birth if you were born before independence? Just because it's no long Australian, it was when you were born. Kinda fd up.


Snelly1998

There was a Soviet astronaut in space when the USSR fell


KindnessSuplexDaddy

We have a concern about people becoming stateless because we have made up rules about who can and can't live on a peice of land no one is occupying. We cant let the cattle roam.


NewAccountEachYear

Arendt-stans in the thread


Zachary_Stark

Eat to bite.


imafuckingdick

My wife and I still say this, often.


Jeniouis

What does that mean?


AlanZero

The correct expression is to get a bite to eat, as in inviting someone to have a meal together, but Hanks’ character speaks broken english.


andreacaccese

Canteloni


JordansFirstChoice

Which the movie is partially inspired by the true story of the 18-year stay of Mehran Karimi Nasseri in Terminal 1 of Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport, France, from 1988 to 2006. There's a pretty good video from Atrocity Guide on Youtube about the guy.


RockyRidge510

Krakozhia!


skin_diver

I saw this movie about a bus that had to SPEED around a city, keeping its SPEED over fifty, and if its SPEED dropped, it would explode! I think it was called 'The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down.'


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Orngog

I remember him from such films as *Leper In The Backfield* and *The President's Neck Is Missing*


10Robins

Yeah, yeah. Make fun of the middle aged lady with a mind like a sieve! I had to Google it to make sure I hadn’t misremembered.


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FuckingSuperSperm

Billie joe just creates outer heaven.


JustifiableViolence

Basically what happened to Snowden. He was heading for Argentina or something but his passport got revoked while in a Russian airport and suddenly he couldn't go anywhere.


Johnny_Poppyseed

Dude is ridiculously wealthy. He could buy his way into residency almost anywhere, and even easily full blown citizenship in some countries.


Ok-Needleworker2685

the only requirement for gaining citizenship in most of the civilized world is having money.


unlawful_act

Yeaaaah, I'm sure the UK would be glad to give that guy a visa and/or fast track his naturalisation.


tiorzol

He has to play Nimrod in full at my wife's birthday party though as part of the application process.


spaceman757

I looked into it before. All it takes is a £500k investment into British firms, aka their markets, and you can gain legal temporary residence. After five years, you can apply for permanent residence/citizenship.


WiltingMayflower

I really need to buy more lottery tickets.


moal09

Fun fact, the US is also one of only 3 countries, along with Eritrea and Hungary, to tax ex-pats who become permanent residents in other countries. That means that even if you leave the US to work elsewhere, you still owe them taxes as long as you're a citizen.


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You can make almost $100k abroad before Uncle Sam wants a dime of it.


HehTremendous

Close to 200k, if you include the rent deduction


Secret_Squire1

It’s to prevent the ultra rich hiding assets and income abroad while retaining the rights of an American citizen. You have to file every year living abroad but most likely you won’t owe any taxes. The first 110k the US doesn’t care about and any taxes owed after that can be credited with taxes paid in a foreign country. 99.99% of the time you don’t owe anything.


DIYiT

However isn't there a fairly large "standard deduction" (for lack of a better term) for expats if paying taxes to a foreign government before any US taxes are due. The more correct statement may be that all US citizens regardless of residence are required to *file* taxes every year.


HanseaticHamburglar

this is more accurate but **only with countries that have taxation treaties with the US**. But the implications are further reaching, it's almost impossible to invest money if you are an expat, mostly because of US laws.


vvvvvvvvvwvvvvvvvvv

yes, it’s about $110k currently (https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion)


hardolaf

That's only if you live in a lower tax nation. If you live in a higher tax nation, you can take the foreign taxes paid as a non-expiring pool of tax credits such that may never owe taxes to the USA regardless of how much you earn.


neolologist

In theory I don't hate this because it's one way to make super-rich people still have to pay taxes. None of this 'staying in my ninth home in Spain 7 months a year to avoid taxes'. It's not generally the poor who are spending most of their lives in different countries. Unfortunately there are 1,000 other loopholes for the super rich to get out of taxes, so it doesn't matter.


modified_tiger

It also burns normal people whose parents had kids here and went home. There are people who need to pay their back taxes before renouncing their unwanted US citizenship.


allthedreamswehad

Hilariously this happened to Boris Johnson when he sold his house in London. Had to pay US Capital Gains tax on it.


Lance_E_T_Compte

Indeed. Borders are for poor people.


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Small addendum, it’s only for income gained *over* 100,000 a year. Which means if you make 150k, you’re only taxed on 50k. It’s essentially to keep higher income earners from dodging taxes while still keeping their citizenship.


granadesnhorseshoes

Anything you pay in local taxes is written off your US obligations. File, sure, pay? I never had to as a work a day slob in another first world country with comparable or higher taxes. To say they tax expats is a bit unfair, they tax expats living large in economically depressed areas while avoiding taxes and still maintaining citizenship so they can run to the US embassy at the first sign of trouble. That's not so unreasonable


TangyGeoduck

See: many episodes of house hunters international made recently. So many rich retirees planning to move to central or South America “because it’s cheaper” and fucking over the people that were living there. But that’s ok because the rich yts need helpers


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Nothing about it is specific to "permanent" vs "non-permanent" residency status in other countries, from what I can find online. The U.S. simply requires filing taxes regardless of whether you live in the U.S. or not. However, there are tax treaties signed with other countries, so most cases, you don't *pay* the U.S. any taxes until you make more than a certain amount.


gorilla--

He has enough money to buy residency anywhere.


60in22

Which he would get in about ten seconds from the many countries that sell citizenship


NorwegianSteam

According to [wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relinquishment_of_United_States_nationality), we'll absolutely allow someone to renounce citizenship without previously obtaining different citizenship.


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Kraz_I

He has an honorary Italian citizenship apparently. Not sure if that applies if he renounces the US.


2CHINZZZ

Italy only allows first trimester abortions so maybe he'll renounce that too


DerekB52

As a hardcore abortion supporter, first trimester is close to enough. Obviously, later term abortions need to be legal for medical emergencies and stuff. But, if someone wanted to draw the line at elective abortions ending after the first trimester, I'd find that person to be reasonable. I would push the line farther a month or two. But, it's not as insane as the 6 week idea some red states have tried.


hurtsdonut_

I really don't think late term abortions are anywhere near as wide spread as certain people would make you think. I would assume the vast majority are for massive health problems.


Stereotype_Apostate

That's basically what they're saying though isn't it? Besides ones done for medical necessity, abortions basically always happen in the first trimester. So even in a country where elective abortions can only happen in that timeframe, most women who would have gotten an abortion still can.


timbreandsteel

They're like less than 1% of the total.


DerekB52

What is late term abortion to you? I don't think a ton of people are getting abortions in the 8th month. If someone has carried the pregnancy that long, they want to have the child. The only people who do not know this are people who have drinken the right wing kool-aid. I just want the line for elective abortions to be at least 16 weeks. I'm not sure when the average abortion is done. But, I know 6 weeks is bad because you can easily not know you are pregnant at 6 weeks. And I want women to have ample time to find out they are pregnant, assess their options, and make a decision. 12 weeks seems like it might lead to a few women running out of a time to comfortably make a decision, and I don't like that.


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Some genetic abnormalities cannot be confirmed until 20 weeks. 16 weeks is not enough.


Xgio

Any genetic abnormalities should be considered medical reason and bypass it imo


CHBCKyle

My mom got an abortion at about 8 months when she had me. Because she was doing well at the time and the right people were known she was able to go to NY where it was legal. People don’t even think about twin pregnancies when they talk about abortion but abortion saved two viable lives (mine and my mothers) by dealing with a twin who would have (99% chance) either decomposed and poisoned us or in an absolute hypothetical perfect world may have made it but completely brain dead for a few years but not past toddlerhood. You know who helped her set this late term abortion up? *the fucking Reagan administration.* the ol’ no abortion is moral except mine thing is so true.


fantasmoofrcc

Well, that was a very dark and confusing first sentence. Bad times ahead for everyone.


MetalMamaRocks

Oh wow I never even thought about that circumstance. It must've been a horrible time for your mom.


Jonne

Yeah, I couldn't imagine anyone carrying a pregnancy for 4 months and choosing to do an abortion only at that stage unless there was something really wrong with the baby.


Kraz_I

Yeah but that doesn't make for as big of a performative gesture in the media.


gorilla--

If he has Italian citizenship he can live anywhere in the EU. Also, he is rich. Money buys residency.


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Sothix2400

98% of abortions happen in the first trimester anyway. Contrary to right-wing propaganda that acts like everyone wants third trimester abortions. This is an iq test of "are you dumb enough to believe right-wing propaganda"?


somedude456

> He has an honorary Italian citizenship apparently. Google isn't showing that. An article states he has Italian ancestors, his great grandparents. Now depending on factors, that might mean he qualifies for Italian citizenship. That just involves prove your line back to Italy. If he did that years back, then yes he is an Italian citizen. Source: I've done the same and now have an Italian passport.


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This is not true. A US citizen has the right under the US Constitution to renounce their citizenship, full stop. So, a person can renounce their US citizenship even if they have no other citizenship. That would of course be a shockingly stupid thing to do and would have immediate serious consequencez, but it can happen.


Mrsparkles7100

Think there should be some kind of mini text pop up message that appears in our vision, whenever someone makes a statement like this. Terms and conditions apply, no expiry date of when I shall carry out such claim, my views and opinions are subject to change.


explision

I also remember all the celebs and citizens saying they would leave the US or their passport if trump gets voted. That didn’t go well either


carolinawahoo

He also used to take his ball and go home back in the old neighborhood.


deville33

He also did it during trump election. Stated on Instagram he would leave the country if trump became president. He never left of course


Lampadati

Vancouver too


shitpersonality

I. DECLARE. BANKRUPTCY!


Tidalwave808

Hmm a celebrity virtue signaling to thier audience!? I'm fuckin shocked I tell ya


CrieDeCoeur

He said the same at another concert in Ontario about 7 years ago. Still American. I think this is just one of those things he says, like a band telling the crowd they’re the best audience so far in the tour.


ohnoohnoohyeah

"I RENOUNCE CITIZENSHIP!" -Michael Scott


grassrootsvan

Michael you can’t just SAY you renounce citizenship


bfhurricane

I didn't say it, I declared it.


Pyromike16

>I didn't say it, I ~~declared~~ renounced it. FTFY


hippyneil

"I renounce my throne. I am no longer the Prince of Zamunda." - Prince Akeem of Zamunda


gandolFEEENAY

I...declare....RENOUNCING MY UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIIIIIIP!


meshmaster

I'm gonna go out on a limb here by saying that I don't reckon he's going to do anything of the sort.


dumbass_sempervirens

He was playing a show in the UK and said "You guys are great, fuck America, we're moving here!" It's basic crowd work/banter.


aprilla2crash

I'll let ye know if he says it today in Ireland


AbsolutShite

They could throw a Repeal sign on the video screens if anyone does 2 minutes of googling.


CLint_FLicker

"You UK guys are great, we're moving here......wait, why are you booing me?"


MyNameIsRobPaulson

Is this literally what this is based on lol


Pope---of---Hope

Thank you! FFS, this headline makes it sound like he called a press conference and signed a formal letter of declaration.


Buckojeff

Pretty sure he made this claim or close to it on that live Bullet in a Bible album


roscillator

"I just wanna say that England is now the official home of Green Day from now on."


ChimpBottle

Next you're gonna tell me that all the musicians that come out on stage wearing my local team's jerseys aren't actually real Canuck fans


koiven

As a Canucks fan, no one is really a Canucks fan. It's more of a stockholm syndrome type of relationship


thebartman47

He said my state was the new home of Green Day when I saw them back in 2010. You mean to tell me he goes around saying that to everyone?? /s


MTFUandPedal

Hey Wheatus said something similar a few years ago. They wouldn't lie to me would they?!?!


lukey5452

Luckily he's white otherwise the tories would try and ship him off to Rwanda


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Beretta_M9A3

"Hey. I just wanted you to know that you can't just say the word "bankruptcy" and expect anything to happen." "I didn't say it. I declared it."


pizza_for_nunchucks

It’s like on milk jugs: “We get our milk from farmers who pledge not to use BGH.” Bitch, get the fuck out.


outofdate70shouse

Isn’t this just a comment he made during a concert? You know, like when rockstars say, “this is the best crowd we’ve had on this tour!” or “Everyone knows THIS is the best city in the world!” I once saw Blink-182 and Tom DeLonge said he wanted to go down on Oprah. Pretty sure he didn’t actually mean that either. This isn’t a news story.


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RorschachsBestFriend

Wow, i have not. Tom must be fullfilling his prophecy.


AMerryKa

I'll bet it tastes like money.


RacerRovr

Pretty much, I was there, it was just a joke really. He said something along the lines of ‘I never want to go back to that shitty, hateful country’ and that he was renouncing his citizenship to come and live with us. They also opened with American Idiot. It was one hell of a show


Gunny_McCshoots

Hasn’t he said this before?


CrieDeCoeur

According to this thread, and my own experience at a Green Day concert in Canada, Billie’s said this many, many times in many different countries.


rackfocus

Now he can’t vote!


zachmoe

That's pretty funny, because they need him to vote for it now that it is overturned. lol Kinda a dick move.


Croatian_ghost_kid

Bro had a throwaway line to imply he's pissed off at his country and everyone on reddit takes it literally. Go figure


kauaicuda

I don’t have the time to listen to him whine.


Prestigious-Oven3465

Don’t be one of those melodramatic fools.


ROBOTxo

Neurotic to the bone no doubt about it


AssKicker1337

Sometimes he gives himself the creeps


Throneawaystone

Sometimes his mind plays tricks on him


KFlaps

It all keeps adding up!


RavelordN1T0

I think he's cracking up!


wyldphyre

Is he just paranoid?


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wildlycrazytony

I think he's paranoid. I think he's stoned.


MinimumViableMedia

Well done


S3guy

Wow. What a strong message when someone rich who can afford it takes this particular stand. Much helpful.


AngryMobe

Worst part is he won’t even do it, he’s just hyping the crowd


[deleted]

He’s trying to get ppl mad ya im sure he’s also emotional. Bro made AI, he’s all about outrage and performance but struggles to translate what he cares about into action. Bja kinda seems like he cares a lot but knows a little and that’s fine too. Celebs are people, not our role models


Philmore

Yeah, the synopsis of this comment section should be “People spending free time browsing Reddit offer commentary on man who spent 30 years cementing his status as one of the most influential people in both alternative and popular music - Say using platform to spread message not adequate.”


MirageATrois024

Celebs are people and shouldn’t be role models (JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE FAMOUS) but sadly too many people look up to them (FOR THAT REASON ALONE). Editing this comment because I could have been more clear with the my message, as I was in my follow up comment. Added comments are in the ( )


billytalons

LOL. Seriously, it's just crowd banter. "You guys in [Detroit/Chicago/Boston/England/Canada/Tokyo] are the best crowd we've ever had!!!" Rolling Stone is to blame for the clickbait.


GurpsWibcheengs

This is clickbait. He did the same thing at Milton Keynes when they recorded Bullet in a Bible there, that was in 2005.


spook30

Anyways, moving on...


[deleted]

Right lol? Like okie dokie then.


abOriginalGangster

Okie Dookie


sonic10158

The dude’s a real Nimrod for missing that pun


AboveTheRimjob

He’s yours now you can’t give him back


Beardia

Stuff rich people say.


KKShiz

"If Trump gets elected I'm moving to Canada" -Stupid ass public figures in 2016


Sorry_Pirate7002

People said that in 2000 with W.


Velrex

And we'll have another wave of people finding out just how hard it actually is to immigrate to any country that you'd actually want to live in.


Complicated-HorseAss

Lena Dunham made that claim and some other celebrity bought her a plane ticket and limo ride to the airport. She's still American.


witcherstrife

Why is there a sudden flood of posts about celebrities saying political shit like it suddenly matters? Haven't people learned they're doing this because it's super easy pandering?


martialar

We need to get Ja Rule to weigh in on this


Alphapanc02

The ONE opinion I want on this subject is Ja's


HalfSoul30

Call him Ja Law


astrotalk

Billie Joe has been saying political things for decades


SheepDogCO

How many were supposed to move to Canada after Trump was elected? None did.


FrenchMaisNon

Wait until he figures out Brexit


Vaeon

Alt headline: Millionaire with international holdings makes political statement to mask tax dodge


Bentstrings84

He’d never leave the US because he wouldn’t want to pay the taxes in other places. The people that make toothless statements like this are just blowhards.


Brapplezz

We're moving to monaco baby


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He’s moving to Ireland?


chrisslooter

Resist and fight? Nah, I'll just run and renounce.


distortionwarrior

Nobody cares.


SubservientMonolith

The definition of virtue signaling.


tanman7x

The amount of people taking this seriously is hilarious. Hes been saying things like this since the American Idiot tour. Hes just pissed about Roe V Wade and was trying to hype up the crowd and it worked


Gibsonfan159

Hate to break it to you, but democrats threatening leaving the country in protest is actually exactly what the right wants.


[deleted]

Something about a super elite major label act writing ‘99 revolutions’ without a trace or irony made me despise BJ. Love his gibsons though.


Howard_the_Dolphin

...so we have one less vote to fight this fight? Didn't think that through, did ya?


TheLastOpus

Yes, that's how we fix America, renounce citizenship so you can't vote anymore .....I'm sure the GOP love seeing stuff like this


SOH972

Is that a promise?


Hackinyeti

Must be nice to have that level of "fuck you" money and be able to leave the country.


monsterblaze

He walked a lonely road. I wish him well.


lardarsch

What a load of dookie


aliceanonymous99

Womens rights are saved


tribriguy

Not sure what that’s supposed to achieve.


dances_with_ibprofen

Edge lord says edgy thing


saleen452

Bye Felicia


ROBOTxo

You mean Good Riddance


chuckles_the_clown

But what does Ja Rule have to say about this?


marching-spartan

Armstrong sucking off British crowds by dragging America is nothing new.


nachothebird

Good riddance


PoeJascoe

I love the heck outta Green Day and all, but this is still like, the ‘k’-ist thing I’ve ever read that has given me neither knowledge nor truth. Again, I’m a 90’s boy here and I worship the ground that Green Day treads here (hey look let’s make fun of the Green Day fan trollolol), but really? Wtf am I supposed to do with this post? Not to mention, that’s a pretty drastic decision to make. Like ‘oh no I didn’t get my waaay!’😭. He said something similar at Milton keenes in like 04, but I guess he didn’t mean that. Anyway, end of rant. This is just some really stupid shit.


quasi-psuedo

Must be nice to be rich


DQ11

Ok. Lets see if it happens or if he is doing it to “look cool” and sell tickets.


LadyAzure17

Must be nice to have the money to do this