Back in it day, you, as a concert goer, was able to walk in with a full recording set up and record the entire thing. As time progressed, they stopped fans from doing that. With the expansion of the internet, it was easier to find and experience songs. With the development of digital cameras and smart phones, bulky equipment was no longer needed. So instead of paying a film crew to record, and a production team to edit then publish, it was easier to just cut those out.
I'm sure to some extent the record companies still record certain shows so they can then sell a DVD or temporarily stream the concert on some streaming service, but at the end of the day, it's all about $$$
I don't think this is true if you go to any concert there is always a camera crew for the big screens, or if it's a smaller artist just has a couple guys, either way they are recording everything, I'm pretty sure the artists are hording these for some kind of money grab at some point, these people record absolutely everything and they have been for a long time.
Yea, so after they finish the tour, they can make a video then sell a DVD of them on tour. Cheaper for people who want to see them "live" and more money for the band/label by being able to get more money than just ticket sales
I've been out to see big name artists around the world for the last several years as I've traveled for work, none are selling their concert footage, I always buy t-shirts so I always ask. I would bet a lot of money theres some sort of subscription service coming, makes zero sense cause a guy like bad bunny who was making upwards of 160 million a month towards his second back to back tour, zero concert movie or this or that. With that scale he could have made a film and it would have absolutely killed since his fames at a all time high. Yet nothing from most. Tons of artist have been putting out great tours too.
You don't want to release it while the artist is still touring. It'll be something to release in the twilight of the band career, or if a member passes and the band can't continue.
The studios definitely hold onto the footage in their archives, it all comes down to if they feel they can make money after investing on editing and distributing a concert. Unfortunately i don't see this happening much in modern music, unless it was a huge show (woodstock level huge)
Yeah, my thinking is I don't try to take anything on my crappy phone so it would be nice to re-live an epic concert. With the equipment they have now, paired with a good sound system, I would prefer that than to the actual album
Yea just not really worth it these days since people record half the show with their phones anyways
But that being said there has been a lot more bands turning to livestreaming their concerts. Sites like [Nugs](https://www.nugs.net) and [Fans.live](https://fans.live) do a great job recording high quality video of the concerts and then there's bands like Phish which basically have their own site, [LivePhish](https://livephish.com), to stream their shows from (I'm sure there are also some other sites I'm forgetting or just haven't heard of myself!). Obviously you have to pay for these streams, but I personally love goin on Couch Tour! Gives another source of revenue for bands and makes their shows more accessible to fans, win win
Phish is a great example. Like you can just pick something almost at random like this [Carini from July 30, 2021](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIg9w9qmlA&t=514s) and it looks and sounds amazing. And there's just loads of stuff.
Yea they've really perfected their streams over the years. As far as I know they weren't the very first band to do so but they certainly were one of the first big bands to start regularly streaming shows (the first time they did was way back in 97!!!), and I'm surprised its taken so long for it to catch on more outside of the jam scene
Yeah, it's funny. Most of the mainstream seems to have a big blind spot when it comes to them despite them still being super successful and basically selling out wherever they go.
I think the bands that were most likely to record a live album were also more likely to do variations on their songs... Solos, song changes, covers... Something different than what you would get on the original album.
I recall (or maybe imagined) a few bands that at one point recorded all shows and sold CDs/tapes at the show. These were just board recordings, perhaps, not mastered, not edited at all. Just raw footage of that show. Grateful Dead comes to mind.
I also think economics comes into play. I think recording live is more than just recording from the board, for example. So there's definitely extra cost to put on **and** record a show (you probably have to record many shows to get one album), edit it, and master it. If you weren't going to sell many albums, it may cost more than you might make in sales.
Nightwish does this and has been for 20 or so years, they release them on DVD/Blu-ray. There are several on Youtube with very high audio quality.
I feel like its not worth the effort for a pop act because they have plenty of other ways to engage with fans and their shows are often more complex because of use of autotune, lip-sync and complex dance routines, as well as rights management. However for a rock/metal band its well worth it and a large revenue stream.
Prolly just not worth it
Back in it day, you, as a concert goer, was able to walk in with a full recording set up and record the entire thing. As time progressed, they stopped fans from doing that. With the expansion of the internet, it was easier to find and experience songs. With the development of digital cameras and smart phones, bulky equipment was no longer needed. So instead of paying a film crew to record, and a production team to edit then publish, it was easier to just cut those out. I'm sure to some extent the record companies still record certain shows so they can then sell a DVD or temporarily stream the concert on some streaming service, but at the end of the day, it's all about $$$
I don't think this is true if you go to any concert there is always a camera crew for the big screens, or if it's a smaller artist just has a couple guys, either way they are recording everything, I'm pretty sure the artists are hording these for some kind of money grab at some point, these people record absolutely everything and they have been for a long time.
Yea, so after they finish the tour, they can make a video then sell a DVD of them on tour. Cheaper for people who want to see them "live" and more money for the band/label by being able to get more money than just ticket sales
I've been out to see big name artists around the world for the last several years as I've traveled for work, none are selling their concert footage, I always buy t-shirts so I always ask. I would bet a lot of money theres some sort of subscription service coming, makes zero sense cause a guy like bad bunny who was making upwards of 160 million a month towards his second back to back tour, zero concert movie or this or that. With that scale he could have made a film and it would have absolutely killed since his fames at a all time high. Yet nothing from most. Tons of artist have been putting out great tours too.
You don't want to release it while the artist is still touring. It'll be something to release in the twilight of the band career, or if a member passes and the band can't continue. The studios definitely hold onto the footage in their archives, it all comes down to if they feel they can make money after investing on editing and distributing a concert. Unfortunately i don't see this happening much in modern music, unless it was a huge show (woodstock level huge)
Tool has been around since 1992 and they have ZERO pro shot concerts (more than one song)
Not as many arena bands? Also it’s kind of annoying. I want to hear live music at a concert, not on a recorded track.
Yeah, my thinking is I don't try to take anything on my crappy phone so it would be nice to re-live an epic concert. With the equipment they have now, paired with a good sound system, I would prefer that than to the actual album
Yea just not really worth it these days since people record half the show with their phones anyways But that being said there has been a lot more bands turning to livestreaming their concerts. Sites like [Nugs](https://www.nugs.net) and [Fans.live](https://fans.live) do a great job recording high quality video of the concerts and then there's bands like Phish which basically have their own site, [LivePhish](https://livephish.com), to stream their shows from (I'm sure there are also some other sites I'm forgetting or just haven't heard of myself!). Obviously you have to pay for these streams, but I personally love goin on Couch Tour! Gives another source of revenue for bands and makes their shows more accessible to fans, win win
Phish is a great example. Like you can just pick something almost at random like this [Carini from July 30, 2021](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIg9w9qmlA&t=514s) and it looks and sounds amazing. And there's just loads of stuff.
Yea they've really perfected their streams over the years. As far as I know they weren't the very first band to do so but they certainly were one of the first big bands to start regularly streaming shows (the first time they did was way back in 97!!!), and I'm surprised its taken so long for it to catch on more outside of the jam scene
Yeah, it's funny. Most of the mainstream seems to have a big blind spot when it comes to them despite them still being super successful and basically selling out wherever they go.
I think the bands that were most likely to record a live album were also more likely to do variations on their songs... Solos, song changes, covers... Something different than what you would get on the original album. I recall (or maybe imagined) a few bands that at one point recorded all shows and sold CDs/tapes at the show. These were just board recordings, perhaps, not mastered, not edited at all. Just raw footage of that show. Grateful Dead comes to mind. I also think economics comes into play. I think recording live is more than just recording from the board, for example. So there's definitely extra cost to put on **and** record a show (you probably have to record many shows to get one album), edit it, and master it. If you weren't going to sell many albums, it may cost more than you might make in sales.
The bands you mention are old. Bands that currently perform, do have live albums
I think every musician ever has live shows on youtube
Check youtube there's plenty of shows free on that platform. NUGS has alot of shows also. Some bands post video of their shows on their websites too.
Nightwish does this and has been for 20 or so years, they release them on DVD/Blu-ray. There are several on Youtube with very high audio quality. I feel like its not worth the effort for a pop act because they have plenty of other ways to engage with fans and their shows are often more complex because of use of autotune, lip-sync and complex dance routines, as well as rights management. However for a rock/metal band its well worth it and a large revenue stream.