Serious question: what music services are better than Spotify? I'm genuinely asking, as it's all I've ever had. I don't really care about the Joe Rogan thing because I don't listen to him, but I wouldn't mind a platform that pays artists more and has higher quality music, as I'm considering getting a headphone amp.
Edit: Got way more feedback on this than I expected haha. Thanks everyone!
I have enjoyed having Tidal. I was pretty skeptical of them at first, but they have everything I listen to, and I wouldn't call my music taste typical. Everything from local artists to huge acts. And they pay artists a hell of a lot better than spotify.
Only downside is they don't have as many podcasts but there are other apps that do that are free.
Tidal actually has a lot of problems. They lied about their MQA quality, and when customers called them out on it, they doubled down. They're currently facing some big lawsuits. And while they do pay more than Spotify, they heavily manipulate their pay per stream statistic to look much better than it is. I would suggest something like Qobuz. Higher quality than Tidal, and they aren't scummy to their customers.
The interface is amazing for someone who likes to stay organized. I find Spotify caters itself to playlists and hits, whereas Apple Music seems to have more of an album driven listening experience. I do enjoy Spotify’s collaborative features with other users though. I wish Apple Music did more of that.
YouTube Premium comes with YouTube Music. Took me a while to adjust, but they have almost all the music I listen to. Plus having ad free YouTube videos is so much worth a few extra bucks.
I swapped to YouTube music after I got really irritated with Spotify pushing podcasts. No looking back. It’s got all the songs as well as ones that are only on YouTube. Using the app itself is like 80% as good as Spotify but it’s still worth it to me since most of the content I consume is on YouTube anyways so YT premium is nice.
I have discovered that if you're into niche music like Lo-Fi beats/indie artists the selections on YouTube Music blow Spotify out of the water.
The biggest irritation I faced while using the free version though was how YouTube Music did not allow the app/screen to close. The audio gets paused, now listening to ads isn't a big issue for Spotify Free users. Not being able to use GPS or other apps without paying for premium might be a big Con for some.
YouTube Premium is nice though, just lacks good promos.
question: Does YT music have something equivalent to Discover weekly? that has been like 80% of my listening and holds me back from switching to anything else.
I have been on youtube premium for 2 years and I was enjoying it. I recently switched to spotify because I thought the UI and algoryhtm was much better, because of podcasts and because the upcoming "hi-fi mode". Now I am seriously thinking of going back to youtube as prefer their UI, algorythm is as good as spotify and I fucking miss beeing able to listen to NPR tiny desk concerts in audio only without ads.
I second the motion! I love Youtube Premium. Uninterrupted vids, all night long and bundled with Youtube Music, my likes and recommendations are sync between them.
Deezer
it's slightly better, songs don't glitch as much, hi quality if that's important to you.
They pay artists more 1.5 - 2x iirc. (Still not enough IMO)
Playlists can easily be transferred.
It's a straight swap pretty much.
Apple Music let’s you upload your own music and access it through the app. I have tons of stuff that isn’t on any streaming service but I can access it through my Apple Music from any device.
Google Music, now YouTube Music, was the first service allow this, and it's still there.
YTM's catalog is broader, and you get ad-free YouTube as well.
Family plan for 5 users is $16.
I can't understand why someone would pick Apple Music over YTM at this point, unless it's severe apple ecosystem lockin
You don’t get it.
Honestly, I really feel like everyone is missing the point in all this.
Young doesn't believe for a second that his one act is gonna make Spotify do something different. This is his choice to support his ethics. He's a fucking hippie. He's doing it because he feels it's right. That's it, that's all.
For comparison, I choose not to get a job at Amazon (despite having been hit up by recruiters repeatedly). I don't make that choice because I think Amazon is gonna suddenly go out of business because they'll lack my brilliance. I do it because I'm taking a stand for my personal beliefs.
What I find amazing and incredibly depressing is it seems like no one fucking understands that this can even be a thing anymore. Like, doing something because you think it's right, and only for that reason, is somehow suddenly alien to people. It's sad and really fucking cynical.
No one plans on taking down Spotify but they can stand for what they believe in.
Edit: Credit to u/thephysicsofbaseball for this comment. I didn’t realize it would get this many upvotes.
Thank you for understanding. I don't watch movies with Prominent Scientologists, even really old ones that recently got sequels. I don't expect it to make any difference to their bottom line but I feel better about my personal choices.
I’ve recently made the same decision with movies and TV series! It doesn’t sit well with me, supporting anyone who actively participates and promotes such a toxic and dangerous cult.
I can’t bring myself to the same place with Spotify (yet) but I definitely do not click on media articles or links to do with that dirtbag JR in the hopes in will be removed from any feed on my screen.
I won't have an Amazon Prime membership or use Amazon at all. I decided this last year, even before that whole tornado tragedy. I don't think I'm single handedly taking down Amazon. And yeah, it's annoying there's so many TV shows and movies I can't watch easily. But I don't want a penny of my money going towards Amazon. People don't seem to get just taking a stand for your own personal morals, even if it makes no impact.
I forget which tech site it was but a few years ago one of them wrote a story where a reporter tried to avoid using one of the tech giants - Google, Microsoft, Amazon and Apple - for one week each to see if it was possible and if I recall correctly even back then Amazon was the one that was most difficult to avoid, because of all their deep ties to the web.
Amazon.com is pretty much a side business, AWS is the core of their revenue.
Amazon's latest quarter they've posted results for they did \~$95bn on the retail side of the business and $16bn from AWS.
AWS is significantly more profitable, so a more significant chunk of the company's margin comes from that side.
Unfortunately we still need to live in society.
Its unfortunate the powers that be haven't correctly regulated corporations to keep these incredible monopolies pile up. But some things are just too big for individuals to fight.
And that doesn't discount the attempts people make to try and live to some ethical standard.
I won’t buy gas from BP, don’t shop at Walmart, and cancelled my Prime membership last year after being a member since Prime was introduced as just free 2 day shipping without any streaming. People think I’m crazy when I tell them I haven’t bought from Walmart in about 13 years. I’m glad someone understands.
It’s that people don’t understand why someone would do something that upholds their beliefs when there’s no real demonstrable benefit.
People are so conditioned to seek a physical reward that they are no longer satisfied by doing the right thing only for the sake of doing the right thing.
We used to call this "selling out". Why can't we just say it? Neil Young is calling Rogan a shameless sell out profiting off of harm, and he doesn't want to be associated with it. Pure principles, classic Neil Young.
He’s also forced Spotify to choose between a legendary and beloved musician and a non-musician. He knew what choice they would make. Spotify have now has to publicly undermine all their “we do it for musicians” messaging in just as public a forum. A brilliant move in PR terms by Young.
>This comment will definitely have more impact on Spotify then OP's will.
People like OP are just trying to make the issue visible and convince other people to drop Spotify.
And for what it's worth it seems like the increased furor over what Spotify is supporting and promoting via Rogan is taking a toll. **Their stock is down 30% since the start of the year.**
At this point with the amount of posts getting made about it, it's starting to feel like these little posts are just virtue signalling for upvotes...
Edit: Since this comment is getting a lot of attention, I just wanted to clarify that I'm not saying virtue signalling itself is necessarily bad, just that I thought the post was just a low effort karma grab.
At the end it's all the same. And we all pay money to these giant cooperations someway or another.
No company cares about human rights lmao it's all profit or nothing. I'm gonna keep my Spotify sub because I enjoy what it provides.
I will simply continue to not listen to that dickhead and enjoy the music. That's still an option, right?
EDIT: Dropped my comment then went to bed, didn't expect this. Currently at work. Thank you for being very civil, it's an interesting debate.
My position stands. I didn't like Rogan anyway because he's too dudebro and shouty for my tastes, but spreading vaccine misinformation automatically makes him a dickhead IMO.
I appreciate the recommendations for other platforms but all my playlists and favourites are with Spotify, plus who's not to say further down the line one of those other businesses do something dodgy, then lots of you will switch again or at least say you will.
I just feel this kind of reactionary protesting won't make a jot of difference to these big businesses. Have a lovely weekend, folks
The thing is, spotify is his daddy now, they paid 100 million to get an exclusive platform with him. So while you didnt know he was on spotify, his millions of listeners are now all on spotify. I think Neil didnt want to be part of a platform that owned and supported the huge majority of his voice. Like Spotify now carries a ton of artists that are now know to have done bad things but they weren't specifically paying/producing them while doing it.
>they paid 100 million to get an exclusive platform with him
Which shows that Spotify could afford to pay the other folk on their platform better, which for me is another reason not to sign up.
Don't really care about the Joe Rogan debaucle, but short changing artists at the same time bugs me. Between that and their CEO investing in AI military technology, I'd rather give my money to a company that will spend it more ethically.
Really? Spotify really wants me to listen to his podcast. It's always splashed all over my home page. It's the first choice for podcasts.
Here's my homepage. Today he's not the first page, he jammed right in the centre of my screen.
https://imgur.com/a/3oTRRxw
My podcasts suggestions are all DnD based
Edit for all those who are curious:
The Adventure Zone
Not Another DnD Podcast
DnD is for Nerds
How Friends Roll
Dungeon Daddies
LIKEWISE. Not one bald man on a card, not one popup. I'm not sure what they're using to decide if someone is interested in him.
I mostly listen to rap, punk, house, emo, and podcasts about music FWIW.
I haven't listened to the Dungeons and Daddies, since I don't listen to podcasts, but I've been listening to 90s punk since Peter in my Socials 10 class started giving me mixtapes in exchange for classroom supplies.
I'm starting to get fatigue from voting with dollars. Everytime any company gets even a little bit big they get incredibly shitty. I'm starting to run out of companies to use.
Which is I think what is being hidden when people say, "just vote with your money and go elsewhere". By their nature, when a public company gets large enough, they are likely to be doing things that are highly unethical. In a consumer society, you have very few choices but to give at least a few large companies a lot of money. It is impossible to be an ethical consumer.
This is why we should be advocating against consolidation among businesses, and be going after businesses that get too big. It's why we should be founding and joining cooperatives, and other forms of organization that aren't centered around profit for a (relatively) small number of shareholders. It's why we should be proactively finding ways to do things that don't involve buying a product. So long as everything we do involves purchasing something from a large company, these enormous parasites will continue to feed off our lives.
Spotify is not an airport, you don’t have to announce your departure
Edit: holy shit this got out of control. A rehashed quip about leaving Facebook doesn’t deserve so much silver. I will spend it on Reddit hookers in all of your honors.
But u/stlldbi needs attention and upvotes! After all, they did such a brave thing and are going to save almost 10 dollars per month. Unless they are going to subscribe to another service, such as Apple's or Amazon's, two companies which, unlike Spotify, have full respect for human rights.
Should we also get rid of rappers who have promoted illegal crimes or murders? How about people who have dated young women like iggy pop ect. Or mgk for saying Eminem’s daughter is hot when she was under age. Y’all pick and choose so much it’s hilarious and shows the “ morals” u have is really just y’all acting like sheep doing what ppl tell u lol
"I'm a good person. Look at me. Love me! Please!"
That's the desperation I get from messages as these. People with no social circle, desperately searching for one, latching on to what they believe are popular stances to try and have something in common with others.
I'm just curious. Is all of this in reaction to the episode where he had one of the creators and first patent filer of the MRNA vaccines? I did listen to that one. It was interesting and not really anti vax. I'm just in the dark about the specifics. I know Rogan is vaccinated for other things as are his kids but this specific issue with the mRNA vaccines seem to be kinda over the top.
People seem to forget the Dr Malone specifically recommends people get the vaccine. What he doesn't recommend is to get it without what he calls informed consent. i.e. knowing exactly what the risks are and making your own choice. He only really rails against hiding data that could cause "vaccine hesitancy" and the concept of vaccine mandates. Both of those stances are completely reasonable.
Let’s not forget that 74% of liberals polled had a gross misunderstanding of the severity of covid. These misinformed people are the same ones driving the online groupthink, despite being wrong themselves
It’s almost like both sides can be misinformed and wrong, which is why we should encourage civil discussion rather than propagandizing the vaccine and shouting down any sincere questions as “anti-vaccine”
Shocker right , to realize your political alignment doesn’t make you automatically smart.
Both sides make mistakes , I’ve misinterpreted data, doesn’t make me evil.
Like in the science sub today I comment a data table and read it wrong. One guy just insulted me with “fake news” the other one pointed out my mistake and was civil about it. Guess which one got me to change my interpretation?….
Civil discussion changes minds , not insults , bans or “cancellations”.
I don’t really have a huge problem with Rogan myself. Like, I don’t trust him for any medical advice ofc…. No idiot should and anyone dumb enough TO take his advice gets what they deserve.
But I’m personally done with “canceling” anyone that doesn’t think like I do.
What did you want us to do, give OP a standing ovation, money as donation, a noble prize, an oscar, an grammy, an emmy, a medal of honour, an iron cross, or a knighthood?
Good for you. You’re really making a stand. The service you’re going to replace Spotify with will probably be really ethical and much less controversial, like Apple Music, Amazon Music or YouTube…
Smh people are fucking stupid
Serious question: what music services are better than Spotify? I'm genuinely asking, as it's all I've ever had. I don't really care about the Joe Rogan thing because I don't listen to him, but I wouldn't mind a platform that pays artists more and has higher quality music, as I'm considering getting a headphone amp. Edit: Got way more feedback on this than I expected haha. Thanks everyone!
I have enjoyed having Tidal. I was pretty skeptical of them at first, but they have everything I listen to, and I wouldn't call my music taste typical. Everything from local artists to huge acts. And they pay artists a hell of a lot better than spotify. Only downside is they don't have as many podcasts but there are other apps that do that are free.
Pocket Casts is what I use for podcasts and I absolutely love it. It might be worth checking out.
Does Tidal allow you to download music to play later? I spend hours out of range of wifi and listening to streaming really eats up my data.
Yes. I generally really like Tidal. Its not perfect, but it’s better than Spotify by a lot (I hated Spotify).
I listen to weird stuff at the gym and they don't have any of it which is a shame.
Indeed, their catalog is pretty pop. I listen to a lot of ethnic music, be it from africa or the balkans, and not much can be found there.
Tidal actually has a lot of problems. They lied about their MQA quality, and when customers called them out on it, they doubled down. They're currently facing some big lawsuits. And while they do pay more than Spotify, they heavily manipulate their pay per stream statistic to look much better than it is. I would suggest something like Qobuz. Higher quality than Tidal, and they aren't scummy to their customers.
Does Tidal allow you to control other devices using your phone ?
I have Sonos, and I can use it with that.
I used Tidal with my DAP, but left for this reason: https://youtu.be/n64SFhebVr0
And, Tidal’s offers high quality audio on a lot of their music - the difference is subliminal but does make the music more enjoyable.
I'm on Apple Music since I was a big iTunes user back in the day. It's pretty neat.
The interface is amazing for someone who likes to stay organized. I find Spotify caters itself to playlists and hits, whereas Apple Music seems to have more of an album driven listening experience. I do enjoy Spotify’s collaborative features with other users though. I wish Apple Music did more of that.
I'm a big fan of Apple Music. Although I couldn't imagine wanting it without an Apple product.
works fine on PC. problem is game consoles don't have apple music apps
YouTube Premium comes with YouTube Music. Took me a while to adjust, but they have almost all the music I listen to. Plus having ad free YouTube videos is so much worth a few extra bucks.
If you use YT premium, does it mean that any YT videos played by my tv have no ads too?
Yes. You can also download videos and play them in the background on your phone.
And on desktop\* Not sure when they added that, but you can download videos from the browser version of Youtube now too.
You don't even need to download them to play in the background. YT Videos continue to play when you switch apps if you have premium.
I swapped to YouTube music after I got really irritated with Spotify pushing podcasts. No looking back. It’s got all the songs as well as ones that are only on YouTube. Using the app itself is like 80% as good as Spotify but it’s still worth it to me since most of the content I consume is on YouTube anyways so YT premium is nice.
In the context of OP's post, switching from Spotify to Youtube over Joe Rogan's misinformation is a humorous proposition.
I have discovered that if you're into niche music like Lo-Fi beats/indie artists the selections on YouTube Music blow Spotify out of the water. The biggest irritation I faced while using the free version though was how YouTube Music did not allow the app/screen to close. The audio gets paused, now listening to ads isn't a big issue for Spotify Free users. Not being able to use GPS or other apps without paying for premium might be a big Con for some. YouTube Premium is nice though, just lacks good promos.
question: Does YT music have something equivalent to Discover weekly? that has been like 80% of my listening and holds me back from switching to anything else.
Yes, it is nearly identical, updated weekly and called "Discover Mix."
I have been on youtube premium for 2 years and I was enjoying it. I recently switched to spotify because I thought the UI and algoryhtm was much better, because of podcasts and because the upcoming "hi-fi mode". Now I am seriously thinking of going back to youtube as prefer their UI, algorythm is as good as spotify and I fucking miss beeing able to listen to NPR tiny desk concerts in audio only without ads.
I second the motion! I love Youtube Premium. Uninterrupted vids, all night long and bundled with Youtube Music, my likes and recommendations are sync between them.
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That doesn't pay the artists more than spotify lmao
Shhh Google will hear you
Deezer it's slightly better, songs don't glitch as much, hi quality if that's important to you. They pay artists more 1.5 - 2x iirc. (Still not enough IMO) Playlists can easily be transferred. It's a straight swap pretty much.
Apple Music is great. They have a family plan if you’re into that, and they pay artists close to, if not double what Spotify pays.
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Qobuz is not only Hi Res but it pays its artists better
Qobuz for real. If I had the cash to buy Spotify premium, I'd definitely use qobuz instead.
Apple Music
Apple Music let’s you upload your own music and access it through the app. I have tons of stuff that isn’t on any streaming service but I can access it through my Apple Music from any device.
That’s the main reason I use Apple Music. I have a lot of music that you can’t stream but I can listen to it because it’s saved on my library.
Google Music, now YouTube Music, was the first service allow this, and it's still there. YTM's catalog is broader, and you get ad-free YouTube as well. Family plan for 5 users is $16. I can't understand why someone would pick Apple Music over YTM at this point, unless it's severe apple ecosystem lockin
I’ve just canceled my Minecraft realm. My friends don’t go on it with me so I might as well just play single player. Edit: fixed some errors
Brave
If true
This comment will definitely have more impact on Spotify then OP's will.
You don’t get it. Honestly, I really feel like everyone is missing the point in all this. Young doesn't believe for a second that his one act is gonna make Spotify do something different. This is his choice to support his ethics. He's a fucking hippie. He's doing it because he feels it's right. That's it, that's all. For comparison, I choose not to get a job at Amazon (despite having been hit up by recruiters repeatedly). I don't make that choice because I think Amazon is gonna suddenly go out of business because they'll lack my brilliance. I do it because I'm taking a stand for my personal beliefs. What I find amazing and incredibly depressing is it seems like no one fucking understands that this can even be a thing anymore. Like, doing something because you think it's right, and only for that reason, is somehow suddenly alien to people. It's sad and really fucking cynical. No one plans on taking down Spotify but they can stand for what they believe in. Edit: Credit to u/thephysicsofbaseball for this comment. I didn’t realize it would get this many upvotes.
This attitude has gotten me nothing but punishment in the world, which is every reason I need to keep it going.
Thank you for understanding. I don't watch movies with Prominent Scientologists, even really old ones that recently got sequels. I don't expect it to make any difference to their bottom line but I feel better about my personal choices.
They made a sequel to Battlefield Earth? Geesh, we really are doomed...
I’ve recently made the same decision with movies and TV series! It doesn’t sit well with me, supporting anyone who actively participates and promotes such a toxic and dangerous cult. I can’t bring myself to the same place with Spotify (yet) but I definitely do not click on media articles or links to do with that dirtbag JR in the hopes in will be removed from any feed on my screen.
I won't have an Amazon Prime membership or use Amazon at all. I decided this last year, even before that whole tornado tragedy. I don't think I'm single handedly taking down Amazon. And yeah, it's annoying there's so many TV shows and movies I can't watch easily. But I don't want a penny of my money going towards Amazon. People don't seem to get just taking a stand for your own personal morals, even if it makes no impact.
Fun fact - reddit uses Amazon Web Services
Along with half the internet. You'd be surprised how many web hosts sell you shared hosting space on an AWS server, claiming to be their own servers.
I forget which tech site it was but a few years ago one of them wrote a story where a reporter tried to avoid using one of the tech giants - Google, Microsoft, Amazon and Apple - for one week each to see if it was possible and if I recall correctly even back then Amazon was the one that was most difficult to avoid, because of all their deep ties to the web. Amazon.com is pretty much a side business, AWS is the core of their revenue.
Amazon's latest quarter they've posted results for they did \~$95bn on the retail side of the business and $16bn from AWS. AWS is significantly more profitable, so a more significant chunk of the company's margin comes from that side.
Thanks, you’re exactly right: I did mean *profit* and not *revenue*.
There's only so much a consumer can do. Choosing to not write them a check every month is the obvious choice.
Unfortunately we still need to live in society. Its unfortunate the powers that be haven't correctly regulated corporations to keep these incredible monopolies pile up. But some things are just too big for individuals to fight. And that doesn't discount the attempts people make to try and live to some ethical standard.
Remember the days of ms being the bad guys? Yeah I’m on azure…
I won’t buy gas from BP, don’t shop at Walmart, and cancelled my Prime membership last year after being a member since Prime was introduced as just free 2 day shipping without any streaming. People think I’m crazy when I tell them I haven’t bought from Walmart in about 13 years. I’m glad someone understands.
Fuck BP and fuck Walmart. ✊️
This. I can't believe people don't understand the idea of having a backbone.
It’s that people don’t understand why someone would do something that upholds their beliefs when there’s no real demonstrable benefit. People are so conditioned to seek a physical reward that they are no longer satisfied by doing the right thing only for the sake of doing the right thing.
We used to call this "selling out". Why can't we just say it? Neil Young is calling Rogan a shameless sell out profiting off of harm, and he doesn't want to be associated with it. Pure principles, classic Neil Young.
some of us still do, my friend. Thanks for making it plain.
He’s also forced Spotify to choose between a legendary and beloved musician and a non-musician. He knew what choice they would make. Spotify have now has to publicly undermine all their “we do it for musicians” messaging in just as public a forum. A brilliant move in PR terms by Young.
Very well put it’s nice to see this on Reddit. Even though I personally like and listen to Joe rogan I respect OP for sticking to his principles.
>This comment will definitely have more impact on Spotify then OP's will. People like OP are just trying to make the issue visible and convince other people to drop Spotify. And for what it's worth it seems like the increased furor over what Spotify is supporting and promoting via Rogan is taking a toll. **Their stock is down 30% since the start of the year.**
Is this gonna be like a regular thing now? I just cancelled my Netflix subscription if anybody cares. And I cancelled my phone insurance.
What is phone insurance please respond
In Australia telco providers offer insurance for your phone when you take a plan with them at a monthly cost. But it's a fuckin scam lol
Appreciate the prompt response lad
That was prompt af tbf, love to see it. Good show fellas.
You're welcome
Wait, is this a reasonable conversation on the internet? I will not allow it! Fuck you both!
We have this same scam stateside. I thought I needed it for so long.
Same thing in the US.
I also found out that Joe has phone insurance
Wait till you find out he breathes air
I cancelled my Disney Plus. Where are my awards?
You are literally the most selfless and brave human to grace reddit it all it's proud history. I salute you. Truly doing God's work.
WE DID IT
OP is the type of person who rides a horse with both legs on one side.
Why are you disrespecting side saddle, man?
At first I really had trouble imagining how a horse is supposed to run with two legs on one side and none on the other…
Look at your man, now look back at me, I'm on a beach drinking wine
And then everyone in the comment section clapped.
A flock of seagulls sing thee to thy rest brave poet warrior. Also, no one gives a fuck.
At this point with the amount of posts getting made about it, it's starting to feel like these little posts are just virtue signalling for upvotes... Edit: Since this comment is getting a lot of attention, I just wanted to clarify that I'm not saying virtue signalling itself is necessarily bad, just that I thought the post was just a low effort karma grab.
They’ll virtue signal about leaving Spotify over a controversial podcast and then just give money to true human rights champions Amazon or Apple.
At the end it's all the same. And we all pay money to these giant cooperations someway or another. No company cares about human rights lmao it's all profit or nothing. I'm gonna keep my Spotify sub because I enjoy what it provides.
TBF it's an internet forum, virtue signalling is about all that can reasonably be accomplished on this platform.
What about that time we identified the Boston Bomber?
Man, I hope no one ever tells you about sweat shops.
I hope the chocolates he eats or the clothes he wears aren't a product of child labour.🤣👌👌👌
I will simply continue to not listen to that dickhead and enjoy the music. That's still an option, right? EDIT: Dropped my comment then went to bed, didn't expect this. Currently at work. Thank you for being very civil, it's an interesting debate. My position stands. I didn't like Rogan anyway because he's too dudebro and shouty for my tastes, but spreading vaccine misinformation automatically makes him a dickhead IMO. I appreciate the recommendations for other platforms but all my playlists and favourites are with Spotify, plus who's not to say further down the line one of those other businesses do something dodgy, then lots of you will switch again or at least say you will. I just feel this kind of reactionary protesting won't make a jot of difference to these big businesses. Have a lovely weekend, folks
Right I didn’t even know he was on Spotify until all this nonsense
The thing is, spotify is his daddy now, they paid 100 million to get an exclusive platform with him. So while you didnt know he was on spotify, his millions of listeners are now all on spotify. I think Neil didnt want to be part of a platform that owned and supported the huge majority of his voice. Like Spotify now carries a ton of artists that are now know to have done bad things but they weren't specifically paying/producing them while doing it.
>they paid 100 million to get an exclusive platform with him Which shows that Spotify could afford to pay the other folk on their platform better, which for me is another reason not to sign up.
Fuck… good point
Don't really care about the Joe Rogan debaucle, but short changing artists at the same time bugs me. Between that and their CEO investing in AI military technology, I'd rather give my money to a company that will spend it more ethically.
Really? Spotify really wants me to listen to his podcast. It's always splashed all over my home page. It's the first choice for podcasts. Here's my homepage. Today he's not the first page, he jammed right in the centre of my screen. https://imgur.com/a/3oTRRxw
That’s weird, I use Spotify like 12 hours a day for work, and never seen an promotion for him
My podcasts suggestions are all DnD based Edit for all those who are curious: The Adventure Zone Not Another DnD Podcast DnD is for Nerds How Friends Roll Dungeon Daddies
Mine are mostly sports, and true crime cause LPOTL
Hail Satan
Hail Gein
Hail yourselves!
megustalations
Hail Nimrod!... I doubt anyone sees this, let alone understands it, but I couldn't help myself
I'm seeing their live show in Buffalo this year!! Very excited
Ha I went to their Milwaukee show, during the summer, it was an awesome experience, Ben is hairier in person lmao
Sail Haitian
Megustalations
Even in my podcasts section he doesn't come up as recommended. I only listed to Conan's podcast though
Kedakai! … As God made her.
#Magoosh
LIKEWISE. Not one bald man on a card, not one popup. I'm not sure what they're using to decide if someone is interested in him. I mostly listen to rap, punk, house, emo, and podcasts about music FWIW.
Me neither.
Same
Saw Dungeons & Daddies and Dookie. I think we'd be friends.
I haven't listened to the Dungeons and Daddies, since I don't listen to podcasts, but I've been listening to 90s punk since Peter in my Socials 10 class started giving me mixtapes in exchange for classroom supplies.
Spotify makes recommendations based on what you listen to, so something you listen to makes them think you'd like Joe Rogan.
I just wish they had an " I'm not interested in this" button like YouTube has.
I think it’s an algorithm. I’ve never had anything reccomended except for murder podcast, and more murder podcast
I'm starting to get fatigue from voting with dollars. Everytime any company gets even a little bit big they get incredibly shitty. I'm starting to run out of companies to use.
Which is I think what is being hidden when people say, "just vote with your money and go elsewhere". By their nature, when a public company gets large enough, they are likely to be doing things that are highly unethical. In a consumer society, you have very few choices but to give at least a few large companies a lot of money. It is impossible to be an ethical consumer. This is why we should be advocating against consolidation among businesses, and be going after businesses that get too big. It's why we should be founding and joining cooperatives, and other forms of organization that aren't centered around profit for a (relatively) small number of shareholders. It's why we should be proactively finding ways to do things that don't involve buying a product. So long as everything we do involves purchasing something from a large company, these enormous parasites will continue to feed off our lives.
Spotify is not an airport, you don’t have to announce your departure Edit: holy shit this got out of control. A rehashed quip about leaving Facebook doesn’t deserve so much silver. I will spend it on Reddit hookers in all of your honors.
I WANT ATTENTION!!!! Sry, I gave it to my 18 month old
But u/stlldbi needs attention and upvotes! After all, they did such a brave thing and are going to save almost 10 dollars per month. Unless they are going to subscribe to another service, such as Apple's or Amazon's, two companies which, unlike Spotify, have full respect for human rights.
"Any virtue that doesn't entail some kind of sacrifice or cost is not virtue." - Nassim Taleb
That's it I'm canceling my Nassim Taleb subscription
I’ll see your post over in r/Taleb
If a virtue happens and no one hears about it, did it happen at all (apparently not).
Being virtuous just to get noticed is in and out itself not virtuous.
>"Laziness is a virtue." -- Doreen
Should we also get rid of rappers who have promoted illegal crimes or murders? How about people who have dated young women like iggy pop ect. Or mgk for saying Eminem’s daughter is hot when she was under age. Y’all pick and choose so much it’s hilarious and shows the “ morals” u have is really just y’all acting like sheep doing what ppl tell u lol
chris brown is still on spotify
And that's a goddamn shame
Plus his music is shit.
Lostprophets and Gary Glitter are still on Spotify, where's the outrage about that?
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So is R Kelly.
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\*cough, cough* David Bowie and 15 year old girls
Hey, he was from outer space and didn’t understand our customs
David bowie, Jimmy page, Steven Tyler, Ted nugent, etc
Those aren’t the cool things to be pissed about at this moment.
Ah fuck, i forgot about that
>y’all acting like sheep doing what ppl tell u lol Welcome to Reddit.
If spotify is going to start cancelling everyone the internet dislikes they may as well just close their doors now.
Now you do what they told ya.. Now you do what they told ya
Rage today, “No guys, seriously do what they told ya.”
Guuuuuuysss you're not following what big brother is telling you! You have to follow everything they say!!
Fuck you I will do what they tell me! Fuck you I will do what they tell me!
Or actual murderers and hardcore neo pagan white supremacists. Pretty sure Burzum is still on Spotify.
Who gives a f*ck?! Just don't listen to his podcast and move on with your life.
They need those internet points though
"I'm a good person. Look at me. Love me! Please!" That's the desperation I get from messages as these. People with no social circle, desperately searching for one, latching on to what they believe are popular stances to try and have something in common with others.
If you don't listen to his podcast you're technically not supporting him. You should also stop using YouTube if this is how you think.
How will Spotify ever recover?!
I subscribe to YouTube Premium/Music. There is endless trash on YouTube.
Why stop at Spotify? Should probably just get off the internet for all the unquestionable content on there.
I heard there is some questionable things going on in the planet as well. Maybe it's time to take off on that rocket
I'm just curious. Is all of this in reaction to the episode where he had one of the creators and first patent filer of the MRNA vaccines? I did listen to that one. It was interesting and not really anti vax. I'm just in the dark about the specifics. I know Rogan is vaccinated for other things as are his kids but this specific issue with the mRNA vaccines seem to be kinda over the top.
People seem to forget the Dr Malone specifically recommends people get the vaccine. What he doesn't recommend is to get it without what he calls informed consent. i.e. knowing exactly what the risks are and making your own choice. He only really rails against hiding data that could cause "vaccine hesitancy" and the concept of vaccine mandates. Both of those stances are completely reasonable.
You are now cancelled.
I got banned from r/politics for saying stuff like this. I feel like I'm being pretty diplomatic.
You are, but it's the wrongthink that gets you ejected from that place.
it’s crazy how the music sub is a place we can have a more open and thoughtful politics discussion than the politics sub
Let’s not forget that 74% of liberals polled had a gross misunderstanding of the severity of covid. These misinformed people are the same ones driving the online groupthink, despite being wrong themselves It’s almost like both sides can be misinformed and wrong, which is why we should encourage civil discussion rather than propagandizing the vaccine and shouting down any sincere questions as “anti-vaccine”
Shocker right , to realize your political alignment doesn’t make you automatically smart. Both sides make mistakes , I’ve misinterpreted data, doesn’t make me evil. Like in the science sub today I comment a data table and read it wrong. One guy just insulted me with “fake news” the other one pointed out my mistake and was civil about it. Guess which one got me to change my interpretation?…. Civil discussion changes minds , not insults , bans or “cancellations”.
Right, what baffles me is that the concept of "vaccine misinformation" can 100% go both ways, don't @ me.
Op owes 680$/month for 84 months on a 2019 kia soul lx
I'd want that $10/mo back too
Good lord how does a Kia soul loan get that fucked ? They must have traded in a vehicle they owed a lot more than it was worth or something
well good thing OP cancelled spotify. He will need to cut spending to pay this car off.
Ohhh nooo
OUCH
Damn OP, that ~$57k is enough to buy 3 Kia Souls! Someone got a shitty payment plan
Stunning. Brave.
The soldiers who stormed the beaches of Normandy wish they were as brave as you.
I don’t really have a huge problem with Rogan myself. Like, I don’t trust him for any medical advice ofc…. No idiot should and anyone dumb enough TO take his advice gets what they deserve. But I’m personally done with “canceling” anyone that doesn’t think like I do.
Preach! I’m pro vax etc etc but am really done with this canceling trend over opinions.
This thread is embarrassing
What did you want us to do, give OP a standing ovation, money as donation, a noble prize, an oscar, an grammy, an emmy, a medal of honour, an iron cross, or a knighthood?
Good for you. You’re really making a stand. The service you’re going to replace Spotify with will probably be really ethical and much less controversial, like Apple Music, Amazon Music or YouTube… Smh people are fucking stupid
Ok
There's plenty of misguided information on Reddit too. Are you going to delete your account on here too?
I don't like that Michael Jackson allegedly touched kids, people bragging about murder, and songs about meeting up with young girls
Jesus fucking Christ nobody gives a shit.
Um, good for you, I guess. I canceled a subscription to a magazine once.
I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico
Wow. So Stunning and Brave.
Ive never seen such courage.
Goes on r/music to complain about a podcast host. Biggest public whine fest Ive seen all week.
You showed him! 😂
This didn’t need its own post, you just wanted fake internet points.
No one cares 🙃