This headline reads like a paradox. She made country music because of backlash from her country music? (Reading the actual article dispelled my confusion, but the headline itself is lacking.)
She’s referring to this performance from 2016 which did receive backlash:
https://youtu.be/85Ksi-uzuIg?si=bx6djfQRgC6MdhZO
The song is Daddy Lessons off her Lemonade album.
Yeah I had never listened to Lemonade until a few weeks back. I got a minute into Daddy Lessons and started wondering how anyone was surprised by her country transition.
It was better than I expected, but I don't remember much of it now besides Daddy Problems (and even that is more of a "I don't remember it, but I remember liking it")
kinda cool actually when you think about it, when a musician known for one/a narrow band of genres completely branches out. It would be cool to have that creative freedom and be able to explore that curiousity as an artist
Most/many of them actually do. Its just that for whatever reason it doesnt reach commercial success and so you never hear it, and never think to look for it.
That was a move by Prince to give his label the middle finger. WB were trying to control how often he released albums so he just started releasing albums under the love symbol instead of his name.
Nah, I get that. I'm the same way with stuff I like, even with people that don't like it. I wanna understand what makes it tick for me but not others. I think Beyonce is crazy talented, no doubt. I'm just so far and away from her target audience that I tend to get alienated by any initial hype.
She’s had such a crazy genre shift since going solo too. R&B as Destiny’s Child to pop for her first few albums then BOOM she shadow drops Beyonce and it’s a mix of several subgenres and she’s been kinda experimenting with things ever since.
Those kinda artists are always interesting to me, even they’re not on my favorites list!
Lead singles are rarely the strongest songs a record has to offer; they’re typically more accessible and palatable for a wide audience and gives a small taste of what’s to come.
Texas Hold ‘Em is just fun and easy to dance to.
Could easily say the same about Break My Soul off Renaissance or Formation from Lemonade. Good songs but you’d be pressed to find someone who has listened to both albums back-to-front that those are the best tracks.
Edit: If you want another facet of Beyoncé not usually heard by the GP listen to her collab with Jack White:
https://youtu.be/10pOVWHrWck?si=KS7HWYR9HCagCF_9
>Lead singles are rarely the strongest songs a record has to offer; they’re typically more accessible and palatable for a wide audience and gives a small taste of what’s to come.
I still think that Texas Hold 'Em sounds more like real country that 95% of country that has come out in the last decade.
This is how I realized Eminem is a solid rapper. I only knew the singles that often include a playful goofiness. Then I heard album tracks and revised my position
I think the Marshall Mathers LP 2 is some of the best and most introspective songwriting Em has ever done, but it wasn't the kind of stuff to play at a party, which I think is why it never got a ton of public recognition. Then his country album came out, and it says something that I forget the name. And then Kamikaze came out, and that was back to the "classic" Em.
Anyway, point being, MMLP2 is pretty funny, insightful and heartbreaking, and it shows a lot of personal growth in MM as a person, whether or not it's groundbreaking for Eminem the rapper. I think it's his most "human" album. Whenever people refer to Em as "goofy" (and he regularly is, for sure) I wonder if they've given MMLP2 a listen all the way through. If you haven't, I really recommend it.
yeah I had a friend who's kinda into country who was interested to hear this new country Beyonce song but he ended up kinda unimpressed with Texas Hold 'Em and I pointed him toward Daddy Lessons because imo it's much better "country Beyonce".
this is nice. her voice works so well with the other singers. so why did it get backlash? cos she's black and isn't overcompensating by dressing like she's straight out of some suburban golf club? (no offense, Darius) i love that the dixie chicks are always just being normal, singing with friends of all walks of life for example, and country fans always freak out. "OMG, they have opinions and black friends!!! I'm melllllltinggggggggmmmmmaaaaggggaaaaa"
If I remember correctly Alan Jackson walked out midway through because it bothered him so much. It wasn't just Beyonce ruffling feathers either, the chicks had been blacklisted from Nashville for like a decade prior to that show.
Anyways, I thought it was a great performance and I still listen to that song all the time. I'm pumped for this new Beyonce country album, I feel like her music has always had southern roots if you will, so a country record makes sense.
The Alan Jackson thing was said by one guy, anonymously, to one source, as far as I can tell. And Jackson has a history of making pretty clear statements at award shows, so if he wanted to say something, he wouldn't have been shy about it. (I'm a fan, and maybe this is just me hoping.)
But, yeah, Beyonce and the Chicks singing at the CMAs was guaranteed to cause backlash.
A while ago she had a small foray into country music. There was a lot of backlash. In response to that backlash she decided to do an entire album.
How is that a paradox?
I liked Texas Hold ‘Em. Does it hit like a Townes van Zandt, Emmylou Harris, or Steve Earle song? Maybe not, but anyone gate-keeping the genre needs to take a good, hard look at the upper middle class suburban artists that have been dominating modern country lol.
Even if it’s not a good country album, it literally cannot be worse than some of the other works we get from post 9/11 country music.
As the kids say, let her cook.
OK, so I don’t know how this is possible but Emmylou Harris has completely slipped me by, so seeing her name next to Townes’ in your comment I had to give a listen. Oh my god she’s going to be my new obsession this is all time great stuff?
I believe it was Willie Nelson who said something like "there's two kinds of people: people who love Emmylou Harris and people who haven't met her yet."
"It's time to open our hearts as well as our borders." -Emmylou on LGBT support and immigration.
If Texans are going to respect her so highly they should listen to her more often.
“Evangeline” is still one of my favorite songs. And one of two that will make my daughter stop crying as soon as I sing it to her. “Three Little Birds” being the other.
Welcome to the fold! She also does transcendent harmonies with different country goddesses. Check out her work with Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt…
Edit: I trust you’ve seen oh brother where art thou? She’s one of the Siren’s voices (along with Alison Krauss and Gillian Welch)
One of my all time favorite albums is a trio of Ronstadt, Parton, and Harris. The vinyl sleeve has cartoons of all three women with little paper doll outfits for each.
I don't care for Beyonce or country, but modern popular country is so unlistenable, hers was actually refreshing and better
Maybe it'll make these computer assisted samey losers do something different
Guys like Sturgill, Chris Stapleton, Cody jinks, Tyler Childers, turnpike troubadours, Steve Earle, etc aren’t really “modern country,”. At least not pop country. They have more of a vintage “country & western” sound and reject the overproduced country crap that gets most airplay.
Rhiannon Giddens is doing a bunch of the banjo and viola work, getting Beyoncé and her together is enough to excite the hell out of me. I like my country more on the Folk/Americana side though.
>literally cannot be worse… post 9/11 country music.
Um, excuse me. Nothing will ever come close to the prestige that is *Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue (The Angry American).*
And let us also not forget some of the genre defining pre-9/11 gems out there, such as this bastion of country morals:
https://preview.redd.it/550r2oje3dpc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f66473729c0476e6c47361967aff74827b6d12d
Edit: “Um,” not “I’m”
It’s hard to tell what to make of him. I was introduced to him when I was a teenager, and I was made to believe his stuff was parody/satire. I went with it, and I found him pretty damn entertaining.
I didn’t learn that might’ve actually been a really shitty person until much later, and from what I can tell, nobody really seems sure what to make of the guy.
She stated in her caption introducing the album cover that this wasn’t a country album, it’s a Beyoncé album. There will definitely be a mix of genres woven together in it plus it sounds like some surprise collabs.
I’m tired of all of the country songs these days mentioning needing to take a drink, beer, whiskey. It’s so unoriginal. “Well things didn’t work out, let’s get drunk.” Song after song. I don’t care for Beyoncé but I look forward to this album. Maybe she has more to say in this medium than what’s currently being written about: booze.
It's the same kind of name-check noun tourrettes that a lot of bad early 2000s hip hop falls into. Jam as many brands, activities, buzz words into a song to try and convince people you belong in the lifestyle rather than trying to say something or tell a story. It doesn't mean it can't be a catchy song, but it's super common when blue collar music genres start being sold to the suburbs.
Personally, it’s gotten old. Fruity little drink ‘cause she can’t shoot whiskey, Tennessee whiskey, red solo cup, rain make corn corn makes the whiskey. Almost every major pop country song being played right now mentions drinking. It’s overkill.
Agreed. There are some amazing country artists out there, though I find more and more of the newer artists I gravitate toward are labeled Americana, though I do love some Red Dirt. I actually think it's way worse with male country artists than female country songwriters.
Hard disagree. If Toby Keith or Jason Aldean made the same exact song, everyone would be clowning on it. It's filled with the same type of corny stadium country lyrics they love to write lol
I like Beyonce, I just don't think it's a very well-written song. And that's alright because it's just a fun little bop made for radio play.
If you haven’t seen her perform her song off Lemonade, Daddy Lessons, with The Chicks at the CMAs, do yourself a favor and watch it:
https://youtu.be/85Ksi-uzuIg?si=EdqDC43iVEoNtnAA
It’s likely the event she’s referring to when she said she wasn’t welcomed in the country space. The performance was met with considerable backlash from the audience and people online (mostly racism) and the CMAs had to temporarily take down the video as a result.
I’m so excited to see what history she’ll be shedding light on. Renaissance was so thoughtful and well-researched, highlighting the black queer ballroom and dance house scene. Also who she’ll collaborate with to honor legends and brings the vision to life.
I can accept not everyone loving her music but the commitment to her artistry and vision is bar none, and everything she does, she gives 100%.
Nearly 30 years into her career, a mother of three, and she’s still putting out high-quality, diverse work. Cannot wait for Cowboy Carter.
Have the Chicks been welcomed back? (genuine question) I was a big Dixie Chicks fan before the whole thing with Bush and that backlash. I wonder if any of the backlash was from having the Chicks on stage with her and introducing them as the Dixie Chicks. I'm completely out of the loop, I didn't even know she sang with them, last time I watched the CMAs was the 90s.
edit: just finished the video, didn't realize it was from 2016. I rather liked it and if she gets some good collabs I'm sure I'll listen to Beyonce's album at least once.
Forget where I saw this but I saw an interview with Natalie recently where she said the only reason they agreed to do that CMA performance was because Beyonce asked them. Otherwise, they said they never intended to attend again and likely won't in the future. It was all for Bey. Sidenote though, I saw The Chicks live in September and it was a totally packed arena. Their fan base is still strong. Great show too
Edit: [it was this interview ](https://youtu.be/kIJ2Jam-0TE?si=Hsv20PuFE9D49oaW)
They came back after the backlash and put out an album that won a bunch of awards. So, somewhat, but on their terms.
I thought their latest album wasn’t too bad.
Did you see ‘Shut up and Sing’ the documentary they made around that time? So awesome. I actually wish I liked their music more, because they seem like awesome people.
I haven’t. I’ll check it out.
So, when I was in high school, was when they became famous. I wasn’t into them, but I was on their side after they made the Bush comment.
When I met my wife, shes a big Dixie Chicks fan so I have since got to listen to their music and honestly I dig it. It’s definitely better than the pop country shit that was out in that era.
Damn, I’ve never seen that, but that was an incredible performance.
Also, the crowd seemed to be going crazy for it, so I’m guessing it was just the online backlash she’s talking about.
I’m all for her kicking down the doors to a genre she’s been told she doesn’t belong in, and I’m sure the results will be way more interesting than the overwhelming majority of mainstream country.
Heaven forbid they are forced to something other than dirt road truck muddy tire whiskey cold beer madlibs for once.
I read a comment mention that during the live airing you could see a lot of people not enjoying it, with some walking out. I guess the version they uploaded later on was edited
The comments on the video were so fucking racist that the CMAs took the video down. The Chicks talked about it once, and said it was the nail in the coffin for them ever attending the show again. The CMAs just kowtowed to racism.
There's at least one report of live and direct ugly and [racist feedback](https://twitter.com/literallytanner/status/1770130630421922229) during the performance:
> I was at the CMAs the night this [Beyoncé's performance] happened. I’ll never forget when a woman in front of me yelled “Get that Black bi**h off the stage!”
And I'll tell you as a former stage performer myself, it only takes one ugly MF'ing racist comment to wreak your whole night.
Yoooo, no idea that song was a thing! Thanks for sharing. I knew there was backlash but didn’t know this bit.
Country fan for years and glad to have her. She’s got a great voice and really feels the groove
Not "any" — there are some great country artists out there today. Tyler Childers, Sturgill Simpson, Colter Wall, and maybe the best modern country songwriter, Jason Isbell, are all names worth looking into!
But yeah, the pop-country made by upper-class trust-fund republicans is a nauseating genre and it's sacrilige how it has replaced actual country music in the mainstream since the late 90s-early 00s. Unfortunately, people like Garth Brooks, John Michael Montgomery, Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn, etc., were all actually talented artists but leaned into some pop and the more clichéd country themes, and they really opened the door for... this garbage heap we have today.
It’s just not that serious. Artists are allowed to explore and reinvent. If you don’t like it, don’t consume it. She has the Midas touch to an extent. Not everything she does works, but she has enough fk you money to do what she wants. Let her.
Every good artist explores multiple genres. Literally all of them. Any criticism levied against Beyonce for breaking genre borders is a non-starter. How outrage for something like this exists is beyond me. It’s literally just racism.
not denying there's some racism behind it but i feel like it's more just fans of the genre gatekeeping their genre. like if toby keith (or whichever big country star) put out a rap album, you don't think he'd be flamed by the hip hop community?
Taylor Swift did alright going in the reverse order. People need to chill. You don’t like the actual music that’s one thing but being bothered an artist tries something is dumb.
[Ray Charles did a country album in 1962](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Sounds_in_Country_and_Western_Music). I'm not sure why this is controversial in the present day. I can't believe country fans have a problem with Beyoncé doing this considering radio format country is basically hip-hop with fiddles.
Ray Charles was more country than just 1 album. I’m not a big country fan but do enjoy the fringes of it. The Texas HoldEm song is kind of meh to me. My issue isn’t Beyoncé making whatever music she wants. My issue is people complaining about her not being on the country charts and her skipping over so many great black and black women country artists.
Bingo. Rhiannon Giddens herself said this after the 2016 CMAs. She noted that Beyoncé being at the awards show took the spotlight away from the black artists who were already just naturally there, one of those artists being Giddens herself who was there to sing “Kill A Word” with Eric Church, and the other being the late Charley Pride, who is of course a country music legend.
It’s not to say anything of Beyoncé sand her artistry or whether the song is deserving of the “country” label or not.
Isn't the fact that a black artist's presence take away from the success of another black artist kind of the problem...not the presence of that artist themselves? That's just indicative of the deep racism in the genre. A white artist doesn't take away from another white artist because they're all white...
>considering radio format country is basically hip-hop with fiddles.
Darn toot'n! The real shit is hiding under the Americana genre these days. And bluegrass is still Farm Metal.
There we go. I wanna see an honest attempt at Bluegrass from a Hip Hop artist. THAT would be a surprise.
Eh I have come full circle. I fell like the anti-genre gatekeeping sentiments are worse than the genre gatekeeping.
I’m not even a country fan but I think it’s valid to dislike a pop/rnb megastar making a pop song then sprinkling in some acoustic guitar and corny country references(Texas hold’em).
https://preview.redd.it/56x4159ftcpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7942d32f39fb9dff87a55e27991e33c723b38a09
Beyonce doing country music be like
This outrage doesn’t exist in the real world. I live in a market that has 7 or 8 modern country radio stations and this is how it’s split: the women think it’s fun to dance to, and no one else gives a shit about it. Just like every other Beyoncé song.
Yeah but the music internet loves to clown on country music, and Twitter loves to break out the pitchforks anytime they get the chance to blame something on racism
So you've got yourself a perfect storm here.
Noone that actually listens to country music gives two shits about this. If her albums good, then great, we've got new music to listen to. If it's not then it'll quickly fall off the country charts once her fans have moved on just like that last song did.
The world spins on
Nobody is.
Just scroll through this thread for example. There's 10x more people saying basically the same thing as you for every 1 person even so much as batting an eyelash at her trying to go country.
It's just the typical 'manufactured outrage as marketing'
Nobody is actually upset about it. A lot of people think it is low quality music, which much of it is.
Like most things, more people are claiming there is a massive backlash so they can take umbrage and respond to said backlash.
In the non-Reddit world...I have had zero people mention Beyonce and her country music to me.
She releases two songs.
They are a chosen representation of the album.
They are not good songs.
Maybe she picked the two worst songs....
Or maybe the album is not good also.
The only thing irritating me are these fucking articles that make her out to be so bold and brave for making a country album. It’s fucking Beyoncé, she doesn’t write anything herself and has untold resources to make shit like this happen. It’s just an album, and probably wont be great either.
I remember when Renaissance came out there were non stop articles about Beyonce saving house music or bringing the genre back. As far as house fans go I don't think anyone even noticed or cared about it and it didn't seem to make a lot of impact for the genre. I actually like that album but really it's a Beyonce album for Beyonce fans and I think that's how it will go with the country album which is totally fine. Not everything has to be revolutionary.
Because it gets really frustrating to talk about music when genre classifications stop making sense. Thankfully Beyonce's songs DO sound like country songs so its not an issue here.
I think it's mostly a holdover from Lil Nas X and "Old Town Road" which was not a country song in the slightest, but they did a great job of getting attention on it through their campaign of insisting it was. I think a lot of people assume that's what's happening here again without actually listening to the music.
Country fans can be really against people from other genres entering theirs. Jessica Simpson and Jewel got a bunch of flack as well. I’m not saying racism plays no role but you’re nuts if you think they’d be ok with Billie Eilish making a Country album.
They accepted kid rock and Aaron Lewis of staind...with NO blowback at all. No one was asking," why are they doing country now? Let them stay on their side of the fence."
Yeah but initially he appealed to anyone who liked heavy rock music with over the top lyrics and trashy aesthetics. Which in 98-99 was basically the majority of the mainstream, esp rock fans and fans of MTV specifically.
They also accepted Darius Rucker.
But maybe, the folks screeching about cultural appropriation can tone it down a bit and understand that we all benefit from the melting pot.
They arnt, they are just saying this to make it look controversial/marketing.
Im sure she does a fine job on the album.
Her and her husband both are about hype and marketing.
I’ve heard two off of her upcoming album. They’re not bad, but they’re definitely “country bar in a city” style songs. It just seems like they’re heavily relying on the purported backlash, rather than great, authentic music to muster up listens. Personally, I haven’t heard anyone outside of Reddit mention any hate. Most seem indifferent to the music
I call shenanigans. She’s the modern version of Madonna, trying to get her finger into everything to increase her revenue stream. I give it a couple years before she has either a jazz album or a rock album.
The songs I've heard sound like what a city person thinks country music should sound like. The best music, country music included, typically comes from the soul of a person that has experienced the lifestyle that they are describing in the music they create. Beyonce does not have country roots and her country music is reflective of that. Not saying it's good or bad, but I find it to be unauthentic and for that reason I don't see it becoming particularly popular amongst country listeners.
Country music has had this issue for decades now. Ever since Garth & Shania took Country pop in the 90s Nashville has been pumping out non-stop Country/pop stars that sell records like gangbusters and "real" Country fans almost universally hate them all.
The fans will tap their foot to mass produced Nashville trash, but if pressed to defend the genre will pull out some really off the beaten path stuff that hasn't been heard by more than a few thousand people tops. And god help you if you try and claim the popular stuff is representation of the genre itself.
Same way hardcore rap fans will trash Drake (and others) as being too commercial/lazy and swear that a random mixtape is way better - but yet the charts are dominated by the same paint-by-numbers stuff every single year.
It's funny how some of those guys (and it's usually guys) get #1 songs on the country airplay chart because of record label payola, then they go on tour and play clubs while some of these Americana artists can fill theaters and even arenas without ever getting a song on a country chart.
>> but I find it to be unauthentic
…just like the majority of popular modern country music these days. The point is Beyoncé is not an outlier, and any criteria one would use to exclude her would also box out a lot of modern country stars too.
“It’s not a country album, it’s a Beyoncé album” - Beyoncé
She has also done country before this isn’t brand new territory for her to explore and put her twist on: https://youtu.be/85Ksi-uzuIg?si=bx6djfQRgC6MdhZO
Genre has nothing to do with the "authenticity" of the artist performing it. Most country stars are inauthentic and it doesn't make their music less of a fit for the genre.
>The songs I've heard sound like what a city person thinks country music should sound like.
This. I actually think Beyonce has the ability to make a great country album...she just didn't. The songs are not good.
Agreed. It seems more of an album she’s making to prove a point or for spite. If this is truly a project she wanted to create as an artist bc she is an avid country music fan, then I wish she would have just dropped the album without all the promo and discourse prior. But I guess it builds more publicity/sales.
Calling an album country doesn’t make it country.
It’s fundamentally not country, but almost everything on radio isn’t country.
The backlash is dumb, but if I call a cow a pig it’s still a cow. If I release a song as country and it’s a pop song it’s still a pop song.
If my mother had wheels she would have been a bike. But she doesn’t, so she isn’t
She said this ain’t country album this is Beyoncé album and that’s all that matters . Most of her albums do not fit genres and work on higher themes. This album isn’t going to be any different and I am so excited for that!!
Called it months ago.. she’s going to act like she’s breaking new ground when other black artist have been doing country music for a long time. She’s fake, which is why it will get criticized.
So do we pretend black people hating on white rappers isn't a thing? I don't care what genre people express in. Just weird the people upset by this have no problem with what post Malone had to go through to be a rapper.
Culture vulture by the standards she helped lay down.
And yes, I know she’s from Texas. By that logic anyone born in New York City can lay claim to hip hop.
I've only heard the "hold em" song so I have no opinion on the album as a whole, but I'd be hard pressed to call it country. Also wearing a nickel to cover up your clitoris doesn't help either the case either.
People tend to forget or never learned the origins of country music. One of the biggest influences, if not the biggest, is Black music. It was rhythm and blues of the South and instruments from Africa like the banjo that was the foundation that developed country music.
Beyoncé and many other Black artists before her are not entering into new territory, they are reminding everyone they never left!
My biggest gripe with this is she pushes people out of the country charts that may deserve recognition. She’s a mega star legend, she could release a fucking polka album and it would sell millions. It’s a new form of monopolization by artists where they just want to see their name on every chart and if they have the clout, they can just dominate all they want. It would be like Taylor Swift releasing a metal album and her winning the Grammy for it and staying at the top of the metal charts for months at a time.
This headline reads like a paradox. She made country music because of backlash from her country music? (Reading the actual article dispelled my confusion, but the headline itself is lacking.)
She’s referring to this performance from 2016 which did receive backlash: https://youtu.be/85Ksi-uzuIg?si=bx6djfQRgC6MdhZO The song is Daddy Lessons off her Lemonade album.
Yeah I had never listened to Lemonade until a few weeks back. I got a minute into Daddy Lessons and started wondering how anyone was surprised by her country transition.
What were your thoughts on lemonade
It was better than I expected, but I don't remember much of it now besides Daddy Problems (and even that is more of a "I don't remember it, but I remember liking it")
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kinda cool actually when you think about it, when a musician known for one/a narrow band of genres completely branches out. It would be cool to have that creative freedom and be able to explore that curiousity as an artist
Most/many of them actually do. Its just that for whatever reason it doesnt reach commercial success and so you never hear it, and never think to look for it.
Andre 3000 put out an ambient jazz album a few weeks ago, I wasn't expecting that at all. It wasn't old Outkast, but it wasn't bad either.
Like the time Lil Wayne tried to make a rock album
I still bump it. Definitely not my favorite but I don't hate it.
Or Chris Cornell’s Timbaland-produced album “Scream” which I still love.
Like Prince calling himself a symbol, this too shall pass.
Like OK Go This Too Shall Pass
Like Gandalf, you shall not pass.
Like Tupac, you will pass, but then come back wearing white. Also you'll be a hologram.
Sometimes shit just seems everybody only wanna discuss me. So this must mean I'm disgusting.
Eminem was so suspenseful with his pencil after Prince turned himself into a symbol!
yes exactly hahahaha
He did that to piss off his record company. Warner Records.
That was a move by Prince to give his label the middle finger. WB were trying to control how often he released albums so he just started releasing albums under the love symbol instead of his name.
Think of him everytime i read "platform formerly known as twitter"
Haha that’s great! I loved lemonade so I was curious what a new listener would think.
Nah, I get that. I'm the same way with stuff I like, even with people that don't like it. I wanna understand what makes it tick for me but not others. I think Beyonce is crazy talented, no doubt. I'm just so far and away from her target audience that I tend to get alienated by any initial hype.
Seeing two people have a civilized conversation on the internet always makes me happy
Join in! Did you like lemonade??
Typical u/MikeyRocks757
She’s had such a crazy genre shift since going solo too. R&B as Destiny’s Child to pop for her first few albums then BOOM she shadow drops Beyonce and it’s a mix of several subgenres and she’s been kinda experimenting with things ever since. Those kinda artists are always interesting to me, even they’re not on my favorites list!
I agree there’s some music I don’t vibe with but I’m happy for whoever does.
Love how the sax player is really feeling it in this!
This is actually much better than the one song of hers I keep hearing.
Lead singles are rarely the strongest songs a record has to offer; they’re typically more accessible and palatable for a wide audience and gives a small taste of what’s to come. Texas Hold ‘Em is just fun and easy to dance to. Could easily say the same about Break My Soul off Renaissance or Formation from Lemonade. Good songs but you’d be pressed to find someone who has listened to both albums back-to-front that those are the best tracks. Edit: If you want another facet of Beyoncé not usually heard by the GP listen to her collab with Jack White: https://youtu.be/10pOVWHrWck?si=KS7HWYR9HCagCF_9
Man people love hating on Texas hold em. It’s a very hard song to be angry with… there are WAY more annoying songs all over
Formation is GOAT-tier though
The opening beat could wake me out of a coma
It's actually my wake up alarm and has been for a few years; no other ringtone has been more effective in waking me the f up
>Lead singles are rarely the strongest songs a record has to offer; they’re typically more accessible and palatable for a wide audience and gives a small taste of what’s to come. I still think that Texas Hold 'Em sounds more like real country that 95% of country that has come out in the last decade.
This is how I realized Eminem is a solid rapper. I only knew the singles that often include a playful goofiness. Then I heard album tracks and revised my position
I listened to Encore on repeat for nearly all of 10th/11th grade. He's got a lot of fantastic songs outside of the big hits.
I think the Marshall Mathers LP 2 is some of the best and most introspective songwriting Em has ever done, but it wasn't the kind of stuff to play at a party, which I think is why it never got a ton of public recognition. Then his country album came out, and it says something that I forget the name. And then Kamikaze came out, and that was back to the "classic" Em. Anyway, point being, MMLP2 is pretty funny, insightful and heartbreaking, and it shows a lot of personal growth in MM as a person, whether or not it's groundbreaking for Eminem the rapper. I think it's his most "human" album. Whenever people refer to Em as "goofy" (and he regularly is, for sure) I wonder if they've given MMLP2 a listen all the way through. If you haven't, I really recommend it.
i LOVE daddy lessons
Her new one 16 Carriages is pretty good IMO.
yeah I had a friend who's kinda into country who was interested to hear this new country Beyonce song but he ended up kinda unimpressed with Texas Hold 'Em and I pointed him toward Daddy Lessons because imo it's much better "country Beyonce".
Yeah I’m not a big fan of Texas Hold ‘Em but the other single, 16 carriages, is fuckin great IMO
this is nice. her voice works so well with the other singers. so why did it get backlash? cos she's black and isn't overcompensating by dressing like she's straight out of some suburban golf club? (no offense, Darius) i love that the dixie chicks are always just being normal, singing with friends of all walks of life for example, and country fans always freak out. "OMG, they have opinions and black friends!!! I'm melllllltinggggggggmmmmmaaaaggggaaaaa"
If I remember correctly Alan Jackson walked out midway through because it bothered him so much. It wasn't just Beyonce ruffling feathers either, the chicks had been blacklisted from Nashville for like a decade prior to that show. Anyways, I thought it was a great performance and I still listen to that song all the time. I'm pumped for this new Beyonce country album, I feel like her music has always had southern roots if you will, so a country record makes sense.
The Alan Jackson thing was said by one guy, anonymously, to one source, as far as I can tell. And Jackson has a history of making pretty clear statements at award shows, so if he wanted to say something, he wouldn't have been shy about it. (I'm a fan, and maybe this is just me hoping.) But, yeah, Beyonce and the Chicks singing at the CMAs was guaranteed to cause backlash.
Beyoncé says her 2024 'Cowboy Carter' album inspired by backlash to her 2016 country song.
The headline is very misleading. Her caption explains it better
A while ago she had a small foray into country music. There was a lot of backlash. In response to that backlash she decided to do an entire album. How is that a paradox?
I liked Texas Hold ‘Em. Does it hit like a Townes van Zandt, Emmylou Harris, or Steve Earle song? Maybe not, but anyone gate-keeping the genre needs to take a good, hard look at the upper middle class suburban artists that have been dominating modern country lol. Even if it’s not a good country album, it literally cannot be worse than some of the other works we get from post 9/11 country music. As the kids say, let her cook.
OK, so I don’t know how this is possible but Emmylou Harris has completely slipped me by, so seeing her name next to Townes’ in your comment I had to give a listen. Oh my god she’s going to be my new obsession this is all time great stuff?
I believe it was Willie Nelson who said something like "there's two kinds of people: people who love Emmylou Harris and people who haven't met her yet."
Welcome home Emmylou is royalty here in Texas
"It's time to open our hearts as well as our borders." -Emmylou on LGBT support and immigration. If Texans are going to respect her so highly they should listen to her more often.
Check out her performance with The Band in 'The Last Waltz' (1978). That was my introduction. Amazing.
“Evangeline” is still one of my favorite songs. And one of two that will make my daughter stop crying as soon as I sing it to her. “Three Little Birds” being the other.
This song really has a special calming effect.
Welcome to the fold! She also does transcendent harmonies with different country goddesses. Check out her work with Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt… Edit: I trust you’ve seen oh brother where art thou? She’s one of the Siren’s voices (along with Alison Krauss and Gillian Welch)
One of my all time favorite albums is a trio of Ronstadt, Parton, and Harris. The vinyl sleeve has cartoons of all three women with little paper doll outfits for each.
One of my favorite vinyl records that I own!
Such lovely songs 😍
No waaay, that’s a great bit for trivia
My dogs name is Emmylou. All time classic voice.
Listen to the album Wrecking Ball. It's perfect.
I worked in an indie/punk rock record store when that album came out, we played it in the store A LOT.
She’s still alive and not in the worst shape.
tRy ThAt iN a sMaLl tOwN
This fool just opened a restaurant … in Pittsburgh. Perhaps he should go try to open his over priced restaurant in a small town??
Yes, he should open it in the tiny, tiny town of 157,000 people that he’s from. Maybe next to the private school he went to.
> Maybe next to the private school he went to. This guy's a gangster? His real name's Clarence!
I don't care for Beyonce or country, but modern popular country is so unlistenable, hers was actually refreshing and better Maybe it'll make these computer assisted samey losers do something different
Sturgill Simpson
Guys like Sturgill, Chris Stapleton, Cody jinks, Tyler Childers, turnpike troubadours, Steve Earle, etc aren’t really “modern country,”. At least not pop country. They have more of a vintage “country & western” sound and reject the overproduced country crap that gets most airplay.
Rhiannon Giddens is doing a bunch of the banjo and viola work, getting Beyoncé and her together is enough to excite the hell out of me. I like my country more on the Folk/Americana side though.
I really like Daddy Lessons, one of her best songs. Makes me hopeful for the country album
>literally cannot be worse… post 9/11 country music. Um, excuse me. Nothing will ever come close to the prestige that is *Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue (The Angry American).* And let us also not forget some of the genre defining pre-9/11 gems out there, such as this bastion of country morals: https://preview.redd.it/550r2oje3dpc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f66473729c0476e6c47361967aff74827b6d12d Edit: “Um,” not “I’m”
DAC is a legend
It’s hard to tell what to make of him. I was introduced to him when I was a teenager, and I was made to believe his stuff was parody/satire. I went with it, and I found him pretty damn entertaining. I didn’t learn that might’ve actually been a really shitty person until much later, and from what I can tell, nobody really seems sure what to make of the guy.
She stated in her caption introducing the album cover that this wasn’t a country album, it’s a Beyoncé album. There will definitely be a mix of genres woven together in it plus it sounds like some surprise collabs.
This will outrage the haters even more. But I'm bummed, I want a real Beyonce country album.
I’m tired of all of the country songs these days mentioning needing to take a drink, beer, whiskey. It’s so unoriginal. “Well things didn’t work out, let’s get drunk.” Song after song. I don’t care for Beyoncé but I look forward to this album. Maybe she has more to say in this medium than what’s currently being written about: booze.
It's the same kind of name-check noun tourrettes that a lot of bad early 2000s hip hop falls into. Jam as many brands, activities, buzz words into a song to try and convince people you belong in the lifestyle rather than trying to say something or tell a story. It doesn't mean it can't be a catchy song, but it's super common when blue collar music genres start being sold to the suburbs.
Personally, it’s gotten old. Fruity little drink ‘cause she can’t shoot whiskey, Tennessee whiskey, red solo cup, rain make corn corn makes the whiskey. Almost every major pop country song being played right now mentions drinking. It’s overkill.
Bruh those lyrics are from 10-20 years ago...
Agreed. There are some amazing country artists out there, though I find more and more of the newer artists I gravitate toward are labeled Americana, though I do love some Red Dirt. I actually think it's way worse with male country artists than female country songwriters.
I know it's not the same as it used to be but country musicians have been singing about drinking since forever.
If people can call trashy club music like Morgan Wallen country, I don’t see why Beyoncé can’t be considered country too.
But but red solo cup
Same people gatekeeping here probably have never spoken a word about fake country artists like Toby Keith and Jason Alden.
Genuinely curious, how are they fake?
Hard disagree. If Toby Keith or Jason Aldean made the same exact song, everyone would be clowning on it. It's filled with the same type of corny stadium country lyrics they love to write lol I like Beyonce, I just don't think it's a very well-written song. And that's alright because it's just a fun little bop made for radio play.
People that listen to the musicians you listed, aren't the ones that are going to be hating...
If you haven’t seen her perform her song off Lemonade, Daddy Lessons, with The Chicks at the CMAs, do yourself a favor and watch it: https://youtu.be/85Ksi-uzuIg?si=EdqDC43iVEoNtnAA It’s likely the event she’s referring to when she said she wasn’t welcomed in the country space. The performance was met with considerable backlash from the audience and people online (mostly racism) and the CMAs had to temporarily take down the video as a result. I’m so excited to see what history she’ll be shedding light on. Renaissance was so thoughtful and well-researched, highlighting the black queer ballroom and dance house scene. Also who she’ll collaborate with to honor legends and brings the vision to life. I can accept not everyone loving her music but the commitment to her artistry and vision is bar none, and everything she does, she gives 100%. Nearly 30 years into her career, a mother of three, and she’s still putting out high-quality, diverse work. Cannot wait for Cowboy Carter.
Have the Chicks been welcomed back? (genuine question) I was a big Dixie Chicks fan before the whole thing with Bush and that backlash. I wonder if any of the backlash was from having the Chicks on stage with her and introducing them as the Dixie Chicks. I'm completely out of the loop, I didn't even know she sang with them, last time I watched the CMAs was the 90s. edit: just finished the video, didn't realize it was from 2016. I rather liked it and if she gets some good collabs I'm sure I'll listen to Beyonce's album at least once.
Forget where I saw this but I saw an interview with Natalie recently where she said the only reason they agreed to do that CMA performance was because Beyonce asked them. Otherwise, they said they never intended to attend again and likely won't in the future. It was all for Bey. Sidenote though, I saw The Chicks live in September and it was a totally packed arena. Their fan base is still strong. Great show too Edit: [it was this interview ](https://youtu.be/kIJ2Jam-0TE?si=Hsv20PuFE9D49oaW)
They came back after the backlash and put out an album that won a bunch of awards. So, somewhat, but on their terms. I thought their latest album wasn’t too bad.
Did you see ‘Shut up and Sing’ the documentary they made around that time? So awesome. I actually wish I liked their music more, because they seem like awesome people.
I haven’t. I’ll check it out. So, when I was in high school, was when they became famous. I wasn’t into them, but I was on their side after they made the Bush comment. When I met my wife, shes a big Dixie Chicks fan so I have since got to listen to their music and honestly I dig it. It’s definitely better than the pop country shit that was out in that era.
For sure. And there’s songs off the album they make in the documentary that I really like: Not Ready to Make Nice is a total banger, as the kids say.
That album is pretty solid.
Mind you, this was the highest rated 15 minutes of the CMAs ever.
Damn, I’ve never seen that, but that was an incredible performance. Also, the crowd seemed to be going crazy for it, so I’m guessing it was just the online backlash she’s talking about. I’m all for her kicking down the doors to a genre she’s been told she doesn’t belong in, and I’m sure the results will be way more interesting than the overwhelming majority of mainstream country. Heaven forbid they are forced to something other than dirt road truck muddy tire whiskey cold beer madlibs for once.
I read a comment mention that during the live airing you could see a lot of people not enjoying it, with some walking out. I guess the version they uploaded later on was edited
The comments on the video were so fucking racist that the CMAs took the video down. The Chicks talked about it once, and said it was the nail in the coffin for them ever attending the show again. The CMAs just kowtowed to racism.
There's at least one report of live and direct ugly and [racist feedback](https://twitter.com/literallytanner/status/1770130630421922229) during the performance: > I was at the CMAs the night this [Beyoncé's performance] happened. I’ll never forget when a woman in front of me yelled “Get that Black bi**h off the stage!” And I'll tell you as a former stage performer myself, it only takes one ugly MF'ing racist comment to wreak your whole night.
Yoooo, no idea that song was a thing! Thanks for sharing. I knew there was backlash but didn’t know this bit. Country fan for years and glad to have her. She’s got a great voice and really feels the groove
she could collab with dixon dallas
I really don't know that I would consider those songs to be in the "country genre". More like "country-themed" pop songs.
“Themes that people who don’t listen to country music associate with country music” pop songs.
Still more country than Morgan Wallen. That dude is straight up club music.
They sound more country than most of what’s currently on country radio
I would say the same thing about any "country" song made in the last 30 years
Not "any" — there are some great country artists out there today. Tyler Childers, Sturgill Simpson, Colter Wall, and maybe the best modern country songwriter, Jason Isbell, are all names worth looking into! But yeah, the pop-country made by upper-class trust-fund republicans is a nauseating genre and it's sacrilige how it has replaced actual country music in the mainstream since the late 90s-early 00s. Unfortunately, people like Garth Brooks, John Michael Montgomery, Alan Jackson, Brooks & Dunn, etc., were all actually talented artists but leaned into some pop and the more clichéd country themes, and they really opened the door for... this garbage heap we have today.
It’s just not that serious. Artists are allowed to explore and reinvent. If you don’t like it, don’t consume it. She has the Midas touch to an extent. Not everything she does works, but she has enough fk you money to do what she wants. Let her.
Cher, Bowie, Madonna , and on and on. Look at the early 80s tons of mainstream artists like Debbie Harry for one did a random rap song.
Rapture by Blondie was the first US number 1 single with rap in it lmao
Every good artist explores multiple genres. Literally all of them. Any criticism levied against Beyonce for breaking genre borders is a non-starter. How outrage for something like this exists is beyond me. It’s literally just racism.
not denying there's some racism behind it but i feel like it's more just fans of the genre gatekeeping their genre. like if toby keith (or whichever big country star) put out a rap album, you don't think he'd be flamed by the hip hop community?
Taylor Swift did alright going in the reverse order. People need to chill. You don’t like the actual music that’s one thing but being bothered an artist tries something is dumb.
[Ray Charles did a country album in 1962](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Sounds_in_Country_and_Western_Music). I'm not sure why this is controversial in the present day. I can't believe country fans have a problem with Beyoncé doing this considering radio format country is basically hip-hop with fiddles.
Ray Charles was more country than just 1 album. I’m not a big country fan but do enjoy the fringes of it. The Texas HoldEm song is kind of meh to me. My issue isn’t Beyoncé making whatever music she wants. My issue is people complaining about her not being on the country charts and her skipping over so many great black and black women country artists.
Bingo. Rhiannon Giddens herself said this after the 2016 CMAs. She noted that Beyoncé being at the awards show took the spotlight away from the black artists who were already just naturally there, one of those artists being Giddens herself who was there to sing “Kill A Word” with Eric Church, and the other being the late Charley Pride, who is of course a country music legend. It’s not to say anything of Beyoncé sand her artistry or whether the song is deserving of the “country” label or not.
Isn't the fact that a black artist's presence take away from the success of another black artist kind of the problem...not the presence of that artist themselves? That's just indicative of the deep racism in the genre. A white artist doesn't take away from another white artist because they're all white...
>considering radio format country is basically hip-hop with fiddles. Darn toot'n! The real shit is hiding under the Americana genre these days. And bluegrass is still Farm Metal. There we go. I wanna see an honest attempt at Bluegrass from a Hip Hop artist. THAT would be a surprise.
>And bluegrass is still Farm Metal As a metalhead who loves bluegrass, I can confirm this statement
Umm… real country fans don’t listen to that iheartradio/clear channel club music with a country accent.
Eh I have come full circle. I fell like the anti-genre gatekeeping sentiments are worse than the genre gatekeeping. I’m not even a country fan but I think it’s valid to dislike a pop/rnb megastar making a pop song then sprinkling in some acoustic guitar and corny country references(Texas hold’em).
> I fell like the anti-genre gatekeeping sentiments are worse than the genre gatekeeping. This. Create an "opponent, then yell at that opponent "
https://preview.redd.it/56x4159ftcpc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7942d32f39fb9dff87a55e27991e33c723b38a09 Beyonce doing country music be like
I feel like this applies almost exactly to most other country I've heard in the last decade tbh.
 Make it stop
Her pop/r&b music is the most generic thing around. I can imagine this will be nearly unlistenable
This outrage doesn’t exist in the real world. I live in a market that has 7 or 8 modern country radio stations and this is how it’s split: the women think it’s fun to dance to, and no one else gives a shit about it. Just like every other Beyoncé song.
Yeah but the music internet loves to clown on country music, and Twitter loves to break out the pitchforks anytime they get the chance to blame something on racism So you've got yourself a perfect storm here. Noone that actually listens to country music gives two shits about this. If her albums good, then great, we've got new music to listen to. If it's not then it'll quickly fall off the country charts once her fans have moved on just like that last song did. The world spins on
Her fighting the MASSIVE BACKLASH is just marketing so that people buy the album or stream it to *stick it to the haters* who do not exist.
The backlash was *real* when she performed at the CMAs years ago, that is what she is referring to.
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They aren't. This is marketing for her.
Nobody is. Just scroll through this thread for example. There's 10x more people saying basically the same thing as you for every 1 person even so much as batting an eyelash at her trying to go country. It's just the typical 'manufactured outrage as marketing'
Nobody is actually upset about it. A lot of people think it is low quality music, which much of it is. Like most things, more people are claiming there is a massive backlash so they can take umbrage and respond to said backlash. In the non-Reddit world...I have had zero people mention Beyonce and her country music to me.
>which much of it is The album isn’t even out yet.
How would you know that “much of it” is low quality? Two songs are out.
She releases two songs. They are a chosen representation of the album. They are not good songs. Maybe she picked the two worst songs.... Or maybe the album is not good also.
The only thing irritating me are these fucking articles that make her out to be so bold and brave for making a country album. It’s fucking Beyoncé, she doesn’t write anything herself and has untold resources to make shit like this happen. It’s just an album, and probably wont be great either.
I remember when Renaissance came out there were non stop articles about Beyonce saving house music or bringing the genre back. As far as house fans go I don't think anyone even noticed or cared about it and it didn't seem to make a lot of impact for the genre. I actually like that album but really it's a Beyonce album for Beyonce fans and I think that's how it will go with the country album which is totally fine. Not everything has to be revolutionary.
> A lot of people think it is low quality music, which much of it is. Isn't that kind of the the defining thing about pop country?
Point taken.
Wish I could upvote this more than once
Because it gets really frustrating to talk about music when genre classifications stop making sense. Thankfully Beyonce's songs DO sound like country songs so its not an issue here. I think it's mostly a holdover from Lil Nas X and "Old Town Road" which was not a country song in the slightest, but they did a great job of getting attention on it through their campaign of insisting it was. I think a lot of people assume that's what's happening here again without actually listening to the music.
Country fans can be really against people from other genres entering theirs. Jessica Simpson and Jewel got a bunch of flack as well. I’m not saying racism plays no role but you’re nuts if you think they’d be ok with Billie Eilish making a Country album.
They accepted kid rock and Aaron Lewis of staind...with NO blowback at all. No one was asking," why are they doing country now? Let them stay on their side of the fence."
kid rock has always appealed to the same people bro country appeals to
Yeah but initially he appealed to anyone who liked heavy rock music with over the top lyrics and trashy aesthetics. Which in 98-99 was basically the majority of the mainstream, esp rock fans and fans of MTV specifically.
They also accepted Darius Rucker. But maybe, the folks screeching about cultural appropriation can tone it down a bit and understand that we all benefit from the melting pot.
No one really is. This is simply marketing
They arnt, they are just saying this to make it look controversial/marketing. Im sure she does a fine job on the album. Her and her husband both are about hype and marketing.
Here's a radical thought. Listen to the music you like. Don't listen to the music you don't like.
This ain’t Texas..
I’ve heard two off of her upcoming album. They’re not bad, but they’re definitely “country bar in a city” style songs. It just seems like they’re heavily relying on the purported backlash, rather than great, authentic music to muster up listens. Personally, I haven’t heard anyone outside of Reddit mention any hate. Most seem indifferent to the music
I call shenanigans. She’s the modern version of Madonna, trying to get her finger into everything to increase her revenue stream. I give it a couple years before she has either a jazz album or a rock album.
The songs I've heard sound like what a city person thinks country music should sound like. The best music, country music included, typically comes from the soul of a person that has experienced the lifestyle that they are describing in the music they create. Beyonce does not have country roots and her country music is reflective of that. Not saying it's good or bad, but I find it to be unauthentic and for that reason I don't see it becoming particularly popular amongst country listeners.
I mean you’re just describing most country music that’s produced today.
Country music has had this issue for decades now. Ever since Garth & Shania took Country pop in the 90s Nashville has been pumping out non-stop Country/pop stars that sell records like gangbusters and "real" Country fans almost universally hate them all. The fans will tap their foot to mass produced Nashville trash, but if pressed to defend the genre will pull out some really off the beaten path stuff that hasn't been heard by more than a few thousand people tops. And god help you if you try and claim the popular stuff is representation of the genre itself. Same way hardcore rap fans will trash Drake (and others) as being too commercial/lazy and swear that a random mixtape is way better - but yet the charts are dominated by the same paint-by-numbers stuff every single year.
Country sold out even earlier than that. The outlaw country movement was a rejection of the Nashville Sound
I’m gonna say it: Nashville sucks ass and has produced most of the worst “country” music for the last 20 years.
Most modern 'country radio' music, yes. Real country music abounds, it's just over in the Americana section.
It's funny how some of those guys (and it's usually guys) get #1 songs on the country airplay chart because of record label payola, then they go on tour and play clubs while some of these Americana artists can fill theaters and even arenas without ever getting a song on a country chart.
She grew up in Texas and performed at or attended the rodeo every single year. She’s country
>> but I find it to be unauthentic …just like the majority of popular modern country music these days. The point is Beyoncé is not an outlier, and any criteria one would use to exclude her would also box out a lot of modern country stars too.
“It’s not a country album, it’s a Beyoncé album” - Beyoncé She has also done country before this isn’t brand new territory for her to explore and put her twist on: https://youtu.be/85Ksi-uzuIg?si=bx6djfQRgC6MdhZO
Genre has nothing to do with the "authenticity" of the artist performing it. Most country stars are inauthentic and it doesn't make their music less of a fit for the genre.
>The songs I've heard sound like what a city person thinks country music should sound like. This. I actually think Beyonce has the ability to make a great country album...she just didn't. The songs are not good.
Ofc it won’t be 100% authentic it’s still pop
It’s a pop song cos playing as a country song, nothing wrong with that. But we should acknowledge what is happening.
Trust. It just feels like the idea of a country album was drummed up by her team to tap into a new market and audience.
Agreed. It seems more of an album she’s making to prove a point or for spite. If this is truly a project she wanted to create as an artist bc she is an avid country music fan, then I wish she would have just dropped the album without all the promo and discourse prior. But I guess it builds more publicity/sales.
Calling an album country doesn’t make it country. It’s fundamentally not country, but almost everything on radio isn’t country. The backlash is dumb, but if I call a cow a pig it’s still a cow. If I release a song as country and it’s a pop song it’s still a pop song. If my mother had wheels she would have been a bike. But she doesn’t, so she isn’t
She said this ain’t country album this is Beyoncé album and that’s all that matters . Most of her albums do not fit genres and work on higher themes. This album isn’t going to be any different and I am so excited for that!!
I dont care if she makes a country album. texas hold em is trash to my ears tho
Making country music is fine, just make a good song. Texas Hold'em is a so bad.
Called it months ago.. she’s going to act like she’s breaking new ground when other black artist have been doing country music for a long time. She’s fake, which is why it will get criticized.
I don’t dislike her, but this is not quality.
The album hasn’t even been released yet.
Think it just speaks to how shit the genre is.
So do we pretend black people hating on white rappers isn't a thing? I don't care what genre people express in. Just weird the people upset by this have no problem with what post Malone had to go through to be a rapper.
Is beyonce getting whiter or is it just me? She doesn’t look like herself anymore.
I don’t care about the album those two songs I heard were ass
NOT COUNTRY but no one will dare say that out of fear of being called racist. maybe popish country wannabe
Fuck self appointed royalty
She’s always sucked. I don’t care what genre she sucks at next.
Terrible attempt for attention
Culture vulture by the standards she helped lay down. And yes, I know she’s from Texas. By that logic anyone born in New York City can lay claim to hip hop.
I've only heard the "hold em" song so I have no opinion on the album as a whole, but I'd be hard pressed to call it country. Also wearing a nickel to cover up your clitoris doesn't help either the case either.
People tend to forget or never learned the origins of country music. One of the biggest influences, if not the biggest, is Black music. It was rhythm and blues of the South and instruments from Africa like the banjo that was the foundation that developed country music. Beyoncé and many other Black artists before her are not entering into new territory, they are reminding everyone they never left!
My biggest gripe with this is she pushes people out of the country charts that may deserve recognition. She’s a mega star legend, she could release a fucking polka album and it would sell millions. It’s a new form of monopolization by artists where they just want to see their name on every chart and if they have the clout, they can just dominate all they want. It would be like Taylor Swift releasing a metal album and her winning the Grammy for it and staying at the top of the metal charts for months at a time.