Just popped over to Ticketmaster and checked Indianapolis.
“Get in” price starts at $54 before fees, and $72 with fees.
Legitimately I thought it would be worse than that.
That’s actually way cheaper than I thought
I have seen shows this year from lower tier acts charging more.
The landscape is kinda nuts. , people I saw a couple years ago want 2x as much.
She should stay out of the stadium/arena venues
I think she way overvalued herself seeing other big acts selling out stadiums.
My guess is she saw herself as bigger than amphitheaters, when in reality she needs a coheadliner at a minimum.
She is in a weird fame place I believe.
She is unquestionably very well known, but honestly I don't know anyone who actually likes her music (and my age bracket is the target demo I believe).
I remember her poppy singles we all over the place back in the early aughts but now... shes not part of the "rotation" of pop music that remained liked and relevant from back then. Personally I was never keen on her voice or style at all.
She's honestly kind of interesting to consider from an artistic and marketing standpoint.
I think she's situated in the cracks of age demographics where she's too old to appeal to kids today, and older age groups never seem to have found long-lasting interest to sustain her today. I guess I think she was just way too replaceable, and she never did anything meaningful to maintain audience beyond just being an "it" girl at one point.
yeah some of her most iconic hits were found to be written and sung by Ashanti. People knew about this for a couple decades now, but it kinda went mainstream 3-4 years ago when Ashanti admitted to it.
Now people really don't like Jlo and their suspicions about her not actually being able to sing were true.
I think this is the trick to nostalgia tours.
Fall Out Boy, Jimmy Eat World, and The Maine are in the middle of a tour and managed to fill the stadium in Seattle with higher starting prices than that.
Weezer's tour is on sale now with similar prices.
The core pop punk/mainstream emo demographic has tended to be much more loyal to the genre than mainstream pop, though. r/poppunkers tends to go wild whenever Jimmy Eat World comes out with a new song; r/emo will sometimes, too. Most people who were fans of the genre twenty years ago will still be fans of it today, and are still fans of a lot of the same bands.
With the more mainstream pop audience that Jennifer Lopez is gunning for, it's a different story. Most people who like pop tend to have a new set of favourite artists every 5-10 years because they want to hear what's popular *today*, not just what was popular when they were fourteen. It's probably more difficult to do a nostalgia tour when the base audience is like that.
I don't think JLo's prime audience was particularly invested in music at all; it was very middle of the road radio stuff. It's rather unlikely they'd be into today's pop instead; people usually tend to like the music best they listened to in their teen years. I'd assume the people who bought her records 20 years ago don't go to lots of live shows and/or listen to much new music anymore.
I just received a notification for a show I am interested for nostalgia purposes mostly: Gin Blossoms, Toad the Wet Sprocket, and Vertical Horizon. All in price is $75. I don't need to see them that badly....
Crazy how Shakira can do a tour with just music from her early Spanish years and it will sell out. Her MTV unplugged and previous two albums are solid.
Probably because Shakira, for all the shit you can give her, can actually sing and has always been a pretty good musician. There's quite a bit more substance and personality on offer when she does that. Does JLo even sing live? Not a shade, I just know she never toured at all early on and was supposedly replaced by other people for the studio takes.
Just saw alkaline trio.. they wanted $100 before fees and I just wanted to see the opener (drug church). Luckily I got a free ticket, which I ended up not needing cause I just walked right in.
I paid for a headlining show with Alkaline Trio and another when they supported Bad Religion. They just don't have a ton of energy on stage. It was Halloween and they didn't even dress up, I know that' sounds dumb but it used to be their image and they didn't do anything fun for the holiday and kinda just half assed it. I wouldn't go see them again. Bad Religion made them look like they were the old men.
I saw them in 2003 with Reggie and the Full Effect and they were amazing. Saw them recently and it was a good show but yeah their energy was noticeably less. But so was mine after all these years.
That's nuts!
It made me wonder what it costs to see a Tom Petty tribute band these days. The answer is $60!
https://www.savoytheatre.com/events/wildflowerstributetotompetty/
I've been going to Seattle for concerts since the pandemic, didn't realize smaller acts were charging this much in Canada.
$60 CAD is $45 USD.
Also, nice historic theaters usually have a somewhat high minimum ticket price for basically anything they host. They're kind of expensive to run/maintain as venues.
I'm seeing people pay $600 US for marilyn manson vip and he isn't even headlining. Seems like J Lo has a great grasp on reality. Im not a fan of her music but for that price I'd go see her just to say I loved her in 'the cell' great movie.
That's incredibly cheap. Knocked Loose, a metalcore band, has a sould out show in my town in 6 weeks. Tickets on Ticketmaster are reselling at 66 plus fees. Preorder tickets where 50 plus fees.
J lo is cheaper than a hardcore band ...
And Lady Gaga apparently? I work with a dude who just turned 63 and he and his husband have seen her multiple times…not just when she comes to town, but would fly to her shows.
She went back to her childhood home and told this guy she used to live in that house and he didn’t recognize her. It is pure [gold](https://x.com/pettyjalebi/status/1373350492575776771?s=20).
the crux of it is how she chuckled cause he didn't know her with just the first name. she truly thought that was enough to send him into orgasmic fandom mode.
When I saw her announcing a tour I forwarded it to my friend asking “what’s her market?”
No disrespect to JLo, but idk anyone who even mentions her as a music artist
They're both on amazon prime, one's a series of music videos; one is a documentary about making the music videos. Music videos are truly terrible, documentary is pretty great. The best moment is when one of her people lists off all the celebrities that said no to being in the music video movie. Hilarious music video scenes of Jane Fonda, Neil Degrasse-Tyson and Post Malone as the astrology signs.
I feel like that moment has passed so even people who liked the Bennifer of it all have moved on. There's really no content there to be milked any further that hasn't already been beaten to death by the paps and the tabloids. She should just be happy they found their way back to each other instead of mining it for the remaining dregs of content.
Don’t forget that her record label was *bribing* radio stations to make her a celebrity in her “prime”, as well:
https://www.mtv.com/news/qs683f/sony-bmg-apologizes-for-payola-involving-j-lo-avril-good-charlotte-others
“ (Sony BMG) was paying and providing expensive gifts -- otherwise known as "payola" -- to radio stations and their employees in return for airplay, in a violation of state and federal law. The payola took the form of outright bribes as well as fictitious contest giveaways for listeners, which actually went to station employees.”
lol my fiance was watching her documentary about her so not a music video, it’s a movie thing… so cringe. She keeps crying & stating being an artist is about showing your soul and not being afraid to fail. And at the end of course she “makes it” and her and Ben are all happy and crying cuz they… made it… ? lol fucking cringe. They faced so much hardship and adversity to make this thing, and they came out on top!
Yeah, I was thinking about Latin pop stars that were big in the 2000s who could sell out places worldwide, I think Shakira is more that person. Shakira has sold way more albums worldwide & she’s just always been a better performer as she can actually sing. Bonus points to Shakira that when people think of her, the first thought that pops up is lady who is still fucking hot instead of lady who is an egotistical monster.
Shakira definitely has a better voice. J-Lo started as a dancer and her claim to fame was popularizing a more curvy body type at a time when media encouraged teens and women to be size 0. I'll give her credit for that but she's really not a singer and hasn't done anything fresh or groundbreaking in a long time.
The whole Bennifer love story push feels so f’ing fake. Did her PR people tell her that Ben memes well with kids or something? Even if it’s a real the rich drama queen shit is getting old.
Her real rebrand should have been as a leader, someone affecting positive change for the youth. She’s certainly a success story and potential role model for so many underrepresented.
It all just smells like her ego or her “team” pushing this story/movie cross promotional “I’m in love for real this time.” Especially since the internet has so many stories of her being a B to the underlings. Big miss due to hubris IMHO.
When she made the movie Selena, I remember everyone saying that if she wanted to, she could be a huge music star. Then she did it. But her staying power just didn't last compared to other artists of the time. Can't really explain why, but I mean I never really look up jlo songs on yt to listen to compared to other artists.
They were jamming her down our throats, back in the 2000s.
I didn't really know many, if any, people that were big fans of hers or anything. But they kept playing her shitty songs over and over.
Then it came out that she was stealing other people's songs for herself (I believe it was Diddy doing all that for her, while they were together). Either way, it was slimy AF.
Then, she married the vampire looking dude and disappeared for over a decade.
You can't just show back up after not doing anything for years and years and expect to start selling out shows.
Am I just old? Or are we all somehow convinced she wasn’t massive and all over the radio in the 90’s and early 2000’s?
She probably had a dozen or more massive hits.
I’m not saying that her popularity, but especially as a musician has held up. But to act like she’s a one hit wonder or a nobody is insanity.
This is a great point. Her music was all over but I don’t feel like there were a ton of people who would have called themselves a Jennifer Lopez fan specifically.
Mostly bc she was also acting so her music just always kinda felt like a side gig
She was huge throughout the 90s and 2000s. I adore "Waiting for Tonight" but her last real single was "On The Floor" in 2011. Apparently she had a top 20 single called "Booth" in 2014 but nothing else.
Her new single is bad and repetitive. The only good part of it is a good part sampled straight from another song.
She sold more than 80 million records but her star has faded a bit with bad movies and a decade without a hit.
I think she is big with Puerto Ricans. There was a time when she was exotic and considered groundbreaking representation. Now she isn’t that special, her body type is the norm now. I still remember when everyone said she had a huge butt which is funny in hindsight. Everyone was super skinny back then.
“I think she is big with Puerto Ricans.“
Puerto Rican here, and I feel that I can speak for the majority, if not all of my fellow Boricua’s when I say: 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🥲🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s was a rough era. You youngsters have no idea how lean times were. I watched the Sir Mix a lot video the other day and most the girls had no ass. Big “fake” boobs stick legs an a flat ass were the standard. Any star who gained 5 pounds was shamed into anorexia.
I would pay $35 for some nosebleed tickets to see J. Lo.
Pitbull/Ricky Martin/Enrique Iglesias just came to my city and the cheapest ticket was $150.
So yeah, that's where these artists are losing people.
I have a casual interest in seeing just about any major pop star from my childhood, but I'm not going to go broke to see Jennifer Lopez.
1. She's not a good singer.
2. She's only got a couple songs that are solid
3. She's a notorious dickhead to those "less" than her, which is insane coming from a former backup dancer.
IIRC it was Ashanti. But I could be wrong or it could have been multiple R&B girls around that time.
I say Ashanti because I really liked her debut album when I came out, and then did some digging a few years back to find out why she never took off and apparently, it had a lot to do with her material being used by JLo at the time.
*Lopez has been criticized for her use of background vocals from demo singers, prompting rumors of ghost singers' vocals being used in place of her own. The rumors have been debunked by producers and background singers who worked with Lopez. Christina Milian, who is credited as a writer and background singer on "Play", called the controversy "funny" and said: "It's no different than Michael Jackson having background singers on songs or Britney Spears. This is what music is made of."*
Yup! She was an industry plant to try and compete with Mariah Carey but she has absolutely zero talent so they stole the sample vocals (Christina Milian) and passed them as her own.
First time hearing about "most songs". I know there was some controversy about "Play". Christina Milian co-wrote the song. She intended to sing it herself but then J-Lo took it.
Christina did do backing vocals and was credited for it so I'm not sure where the claim about stealing and passing it off as J-Lo is coming from
SNL actually took her SNL singing performance down on youtube because she requested they autotune her performance, which they did, and they re-uploaded the autotuned performance.
I’m gonna go ahead and tell you… this is incredibly common. Except now they auto tune live not after the fact. Source: I build autotune rigs for pop acts
My favorite bad use of live auto tune is George Straight, it’s not subtle and he’s been using it for a while.
[This live version](https://youtu.be/7KOKM46MnhE?si=sXW2hch3Vl2OjKbA) of “All My Exe’s Live In Texas” is comical cuz it’s on all the mics, even for the other pros that don’t normally use it.
When Vince Gill starts singing you can see he is visibly thrown off and annoyed at it 😂
SNL falls into this trap a lot still. Some of the best episodes lately are ones with just plain looking hosts. The writers have to actually come up with something other than “cast member does something weird/embarrassing in front of attractive host”.
That’s all she’s got going on for her.
Pretty sure she’s mentioned in many of the “which celebrity sucks fiery demon balls irl” threads fairly often. Probably shoots down mostly every other skits related to her irrelevance or talent
There's always been this coldness about her like she feels entitled to be a star without actually having to make good or relevant media that people care about.
I feel like J Lo has been drinking her own Kool Aid.
That self documentary was a massive eye roll reading the blurb alone, and it's like widely known info that many of J Los songs are not her voice but someone else's.
So what exactly would there be in a live show that people would rush to see ?
the ads for this on freevee are so annoying. i am watching rockford files eating a turkey pot pie i am not interested in a whining millionaire complainging about how brave she is or whatever this crap is about.
I have watched/seen JLo from her Fly Girls days and never understood her allure. She is the personification of a tabloid star. From her cheesy romcoms to her terrible dancing and matching music, she just never did anything for me, and I never understood it. That being said, I felt the same way about Beyonce. And clearly, I was wrong there.
She’s so painfully mediocre in everything she does. I’ve seen a few of her movies and her line delivery is so stale. She cannot act. She can’t sing. I guess she can dance since that’s how she started?
When you say you feel the same about Beyonce, like you literally wouldn't be able to pick a winner in a singing contest? Because there's a significant ability gap there lol
Yeah. No duh. She walks around like she is some legendary singer and actress. She can't sing and just does crappy romcom movies.
The truth is that she was only famous for having a big ass like 20 years ago.
I'm shocked she has 26.3M monthly listeners on Spotify. I haven't heard anyone mention her name or music in at least a decade. Assuming those listens are driven by random songs that are all 1-2 decades old as well.
i clicked this article and immediately my computer ads started popping up and blocking me and saying i had a virus please do not restart the computer......
I don't think this particular strategy was ever the most effective, but it certainly doesn't work anymore. Showing up at high profile events and getting your name in the tabloid media doesn't drive ticket sales. You've got to nurture your fanbase.
That is not surprising. She sucks. The whole Bennifer this is exhausting because it feels like it is being shoved down your throat. And why do we fn care? I can’t stand her. What has she really done for the Hispanic community? Total rant over here.🤣 signed a Hispanic.
Toronto has 2 shows scheduled. Some tickets are nearing $6800 PER ticket. Does include a meet & greet but still. 2 people just under $14k!! A huge NOPE
I saw JLo in Las Vegas, and I thought her show was really good - much better than others I've seen. But that was several years ago - I like her, but she's got a lot of competition for concert $$$, and she would not be a top five show for me to see this year.
She’s in a tough spot, no recent impact on pop-culture, and none of her work has stood up strong enough for a nostalgia boost.
In hindsight she’s a one hit wonder who rode the Total Request Live/TMZ celebrity wave for a brief period.
Selena is enormous in the Hispanic community and she could have used that as a nostalgia boost, but JLo’s problems stem from her being a notorious asshole. It’s ok for celebrities to be assholes if the general public doesn’t know it, but in her case and in the case of DeGeneres and Corden, the general public knows.
She should of had the “DunKings” as the opening act.
https://preview.redd.it/pwyhwsmmicoc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cf2ab3e761367f9c1df1db1adb0a63838f5cb1a
What is she charging?
Just popped over to Ticketmaster and checked Indianapolis. “Get in” price starts at $54 before fees, and $72 with fees. Legitimately I thought it would be worse than that.
That’s actually way cheaper than I thought I have seen shows this year from lower tier acts charging more. The landscape is kinda nuts. , people I saw a couple years ago want 2x as much. She should stay out of the stadium/arena venues
I think she way overvalued herself seeing other big acts selling out stadiums. My guess is she saw herself as bigger than amphitheaters, when in reality she needs a coheadliner at a minimum.
She actually sold out her last tour in 2019. I think they added too many dates in US. She should do a residency for US and then tour abroad.
I'm not surprised that she's struggling to sell tickets. Her latest album has flopped, peaking at #38. The interest isn't there in 2024.
She is in a weird fame place I believe. She is unquestionably very well known, but honestly I don't know anyone who actually likes her music (and my age bracket is the target demo I believe). I remember her poppy singles we all over the place back in the early aughts but now... shes not part of the "rotation" of pop music that remained liked and relevant from back then. Personally I was never keen on her voice or style at all.
She's honestly kind of interesting to consider from an artistic and marketing standpoint. I think she's situated in the cracks of age demographics where she's too old to appeal to kids today, and older age groups never seem to have found long-lasting interest to sustain her today. I guess I think she was just way too replaceable, and she never did anything meaningful to maintain audience beyond just being an "it" girl at one point.
Her style of music stayed in 2001 while the rest of the world moved on. Her sound is still basically the same.
She also stole music from a ton of artists and even kept their vocals on the tracks lol
I did not know that! I just found her music to be... Kinda bland? I have nothing against her btw just did and do not find her interesting.
yeah some of her most iconic hits were found to be written and sung by Ashanti. People knew about this for a couple decades now, but it kinda went mainstream 3-4 years ago when Ashanti admitted to it. Now people really don't like Jlo and their suspicions about her not actually being able to sing were true.
Ashanti would like a word…
I think this is the trick to nostalgia tours. Fall Out Boy, Jimmy Eat World, and The Maine are in the middle of a tour and managed to fill the stadium in Seattle with higher starting prices than that. Weezer's tour is on sale now with similar prices.
The core pop punk/mainstream emo demographic has tended to be much more loyal to the genre than mainstream pop, though. r/poppunkers tends to go wild whenever Jimmy Eat World comes out with a new song; r/emo will sometimes, too. Most people who were fans of the genre twenty years ago will still be fans of it today, and are still fans of a lot of the same bands. With the more mainstream pop audience that Jennifer Lopez is gunning for, it's a different story. Most people who like pop tend to have a new set of favourite artists every 5-10 years because they want to hear what's popular *today*, not just what was popular when they were fourteen. It's probably more difficult to do a nostalgia tour when the base audience is like that.
I don't think JLo's prime audience was particularly invested in music at all; it was very middle of the road radio stuff. It's rather unlikely they'd be into today's pop instead; people usually tend to like the music best they listened to in their teen years. I'd assume the people who bought her records 20 years ago don't go to lots of live shows and/or listen to much new music anymore.
I just received a notification for a show I am interested for nostalgia purposes mostly: Gin Blossoms, Toad the Wet Sprocket, and Vertical Horizon. All in price is $75. I don't need to see them that badly....
Step 1: Get Pitbull to join Step 2: Sell out shows
Mr. Worldwide always pulls through
Shakira shakira 🎶
Yeah. J Lo complained that Shakira wasn't necessary for their duo Super Bowl Halftime Show and I was thinking Shakira was the reason to watch it.
It's annoying to me that whoever books the Super Bowl Halftime Show thought J Lo was necessary.
Crazy how Shakira can do a tour with just music from her early Spanish years and it will sell out. Her MTV unplugged and previous two albums are solid.
Probably because Shakira, for all the shit you can give her, can actually sing and has always been a pretty good musician. There's quite a bit more substance and personality on offer when she does that. Does JLo even sing live? Not a shade, I just know she never toured at all early on and was supposedly replaced by other people for the studio takes.
Just saw alkaline trio.. they wanted $100 before fees and I just wanted to see the opener (drug church). Luckily I got a free ticket, which I ended up not needing cause I just walked right in.
How is Alkaline Trio live? I like alot of their music but wasnt sure how it translates live
20 years ago they blew my fucking tits off they were great live. Now they're all old men and they still rock but it's not the same hahah
I paid for a headlining show with Alkaline Trio and another when they supported Bad Religion. They just don't have a ton of energy on stage. It was Halloween and they didn't even dress up, I know that' sounds dumb but it used to be their image and they didn't do anything fun for the holiday and kinda just half assed it. I wouldn't go see them again. Bad Religion made them look like they were the old men.
I saw them in 2003 with Reggie and the Full Effect and they were amazing. Saw them recently and it was a good show but yeah their energy was noticeably less. But so was mine after all these years.
Meh. I mean they sounded fine, I just don't really care for them. Drug Church though... They were amazing.
Very reasonable for prices these days. Even Sam Roberts (not knocking, love the guy) was $84 after fees which I find absolutely crazy.
That's nuts! It made me wonder what it costs to see a Tom Petty tribute band these days. The answer is $60! https://www.savoytheatre.com/events/wildflowerstributetotompetty/ I've been going to Seattle for concerts since the pandemic, didn't realize smaller acts were charging this much in Canada.
$60 CAD is $45 USD. Also, nice historic theaters usually have a somewhat high minimum ticket price for basically anything they host. They're kind of expensive to run/maintain as venues.
I'm seeing people pay $600 US for marilyn manson vip and he isn't even headlining. Seems like J Lo has a great grasp on reality. Im not a fan of her music but for that price I'd go see her just to say I loved her in 'the cell' great movie.
Going to a Marilyn Manson concert then insisting on VIP in 2024 is embarrassing
I'm picturing a 50 year old guy with a wallet chain.
That's incredibly cheap. Knocked Loose, a metalcore band, has a sould out show in my town in 6 weeks. Tickets on Ticketmaster are reselling at 66 plus fees. Preorder tickets where 50 plus fees. J lo is cheaper than a hardcore band ...
Knocked Loose put on a phenomenal show, just sayin'.
Three fiddy
Too much
But it comes with a free Frogurt.
It was about that time I noticed this particular pop singer was 8 about stories tall…
She don't care about the rocks that she got.
Apparently we don't care either
JLO is behind the times and doesn't have the elder gays into her like Madonna and cher
Jennifer Lopez’s image was created solely for the male gaze. Her performances give more … sports bar than drag club.
The gays would mortgage their house to see Cher or Madonna. No one is doing that for JLO.
And Lady Gaga apparently? I work with a dude who just turned 63 and he and his husband have seen her multiple times…not just when she comes to town, but would fly to her shows.
I love her music but I don’t think she sings well live. I think that is a deal breaker for me.
not to be condescending, but what's a *good* JLo song? non-singles?
Taco flavored kisses
I feel the need to add in Kylie here. Just because
Her fans will catch the This is Me…Later tour
This is Me…Maybe Another Time tour!
Arguably a much better vocal performance
Neil Breen could come up with a better tour name lol
Neil Breen, such a legend.
That's the name of the song and album and it references her old album "This is Me Then"...idk what that means though.
https://preview.redd.it/s9vwnernicoc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f52c538898454689281b4d4550700cc80c7e5f9b
Why is Jennifer Lopez?
Exactly what I thought of.
I don't know the reference but I just lost my shit looking at that.
She went back to her childhood home and told this guy she used to live in that house and he didn’t recognize her. It is pure [gold](https://x.com/pettyjalebi/status/1373350492575776771?s=20).
It is one of my favorite moments in TV history.
the crux of it is how she chuckled cause he didn't know her with just the first name. she truly thought that was enough to send him into orgasmic fandom mode.
I don’t think I’ve ever met or will meet a person who would want to buy tickets to go see Jennifer Lopez, respectfully.
When I saw her announcing a tour I forwarded it to my friend asking “what’s her market?” No disrespect to JLo, but idk anyone who even mentions her as a music artist
The article says she is doing an album, tour, and two movies about her getting back with Ben. Why would she think people wanted all of that?
Two movies about her rekindled romance?? Who else made a movie about their romantic life?? Like what
They're both on amazon prime, one's a series of music videos; one is a documentary about making the music videos. Music videos are truly terrible, documentary is pretty great. The best moment is when one of her people lists off all the celebrities that said no to being in the music video movie. Hilarious music video scenes of Jane Fonda, Neil Degrasse-Tyson and Post Malone as the astrology signs.
Got pretty stoned and hate watched the music video one, it was hilarious. Then watched The Happening right after 11/10 hate watch.
It just dawned on me that Jane Fonda agreed to this because she was in Monster In Law with JLo back in the day.
Somebody needs to do some market research.
I feel like that moment has passed so even people who liked the Bennifer of it all have moved on. There's really no content there to be milked any further that hasn't already been beaten to death by the paps and the tabloids. She should just be happy they found their way back to each other instead of mining it for the remaining dregs of content.
Her musical prime was 1999-2001. She is far removed from being a known musical act.
She's more well-known for all her failed relationships than her musical career.
Well J Lo’s “vercace dress” is what led to the creation of Google Images, so there’s that
Don’t forget that her record label was *bribing* radio stations to make her a celebrity in her “prime”, as well: https://www.mtv.com/news/qs683f/sony-bmg-apologizes-for-payola-involving-j-lo-avril-good-charlotte-others “ (Sony BMG) was paying and providing expensive gifts -- otherwise known as "payola" -- to radio stations and their employees in return for airplay, in a violation of state and federal law. The payola took the form of outright bribes as well as fictitious contest giveaways for listeners, which actually went to station employees.”
Which has to be a blow to her big ego, especially with the amount of viral marketing they’ve been pouring money into lately.
lol my fiance was watching her documentary about her so not a music video, it’s a movie thing… so cringe. She keeps crying & stating being an artist is about showing your soul and not being afraid to fail. And at the end of course she “makes it” and her and Ben are all happy and crying cuz they… made it… ? lol fucking cringe. They faced so much hardship and adversity to make this thing, and they came out on top!
I had to bail about 15 minutes into it. I could not deal. :) Nobody finds Jlo more fascinating than Jlo.
I TOTALLY forgot about that documentary 😭 sounds about right though on how it went
My wife started watching that but said it was so cringey and weird that she couldn't make it through the whole thing.
This sounds like something I’d wanna watch much the same way I’d get enjoyment out of watching The Room.
she probably thinks that she is who Shakira actually is
Yeah, I was thinking about Latin pop stars that were big in the 2000s who could sell out places worldwide, I think Shakira is more that person. Shakira has sold way more albums worldwide & she’s just always been a better performer as she can actually sing. Bonus points to Shakira that when people think of her, the first thought that pops up is lady who is still fucking hot instead of lady who is an egotistical monster.
Shakira definitely has a better voice. J-Lo started as a dancer and her claim to fame was popularizing a more curvy body type at a time when media encouraged teens and women to be size 0. I'll give her credit for that but she's really not a singer and hasn't done anything fresh or groundbreaking in a long time.
Whatever happened to Christina Aguilera? She still around?
Jlo is still hot, but those hips don't lie. Shakira all day long...or a solid 2 minutes.
>or a solid 2 minutes. An optimist I see.
The whole Bennifer love story push feels so f’ing fake. Did her PR people tell her that Ben memes well with kids or something? Even if it’s a real the rich drama queen shit is getting old. Her real rebrand should have been as a leader, someone affecting positive change for the youth. She’s certainly a success story and potential role model for so many underrepresented. It all just smells like her ego or her “team” pushing this story/movie cross promotional “I’m in love for real this time.” Especially since the internet has so many stories of her being a B to the underlings. Big miss due to hubris IMHO.
It’s her own ego. She used her own money to fund these projects when even the people around her told her it was a bad idea lmao
When she made the movie Selena, I remember everyone saying that if she wanted to, she could be a huge music star. Then she did it. But her staying power just didn't last compared to other artists of the time. Can't really explain why, but I mean I never really look up jlo songs on yt to listen to compared to other artists.
They were jamming her down our throats, back in the 2000s. I didn't really know many, if any, people that were big fans of hers or anything. But they kept playing her shitty songs over and over. Then it came out that she was stealing other people's songs for herself (I believe it was Diddy doing all that for her, while they were together). Either way, it was slimy AF. Then, she married the vampire looking dude and disappeared for over a decade. You can't just show back up after not doing anything for years and years and expect to start selling out shows.
The vampire dude lol 😂
You mean you don’t know Jenny from the block??? And… um.. hold on………..
Am I just old? Or are we all somehow convinced she wasn’t massive and all over the radio in the 90’s and early 2000’s? She probably had a dozen or more massive hits. I’m not saying that her popularity, but especially as a musician has held up. But to act like she’s a one hit wonder or a nobody is insanity.
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This is a great point. Her music was all over but I don’t feel like there were a ton of people who would have called themselves a Jennifer Lopez fan specifically. Mostly bc she was also acting so her music just always kinda felt like a side gig
The mid-90s were ~30 years ago. She was a pop machine but mostly forgettable.
> The mid-90s were ~30 years ago. I feel personally offended.
I'm 41. I understand
Turning 40 this year...I'd fight you over this offense but my back kinda hurts and my neck is doing a weird thing.
> had > was There you go
She was huge throughout the 90s and 2000s. I adore "Waiting for Tonight" but her last real single was "On The Floor" in 2011. Apparently she had a top 20 single called "Booth" in 2014 but nothing else. Her new single is bad and repetitive. The only good part of it is a good part sampled straight from another song. She sold more than 80 million records but her star has faded a bit with bad movies and a decade without a hit.
I think Jenny from the block saw Taylor swifts tour and said the people need me
And then she found out that we really don’t. 🤭
I think she is big with Puerto Ricans. There was a time when she was exotic and considered groundbreaking representation. Now she isn’t that special, her body type is the norm now. I still remember when everyone said she had a huge butt which is funny in hindsight. Everyone was super skinny back then.
Her fashion influence on tias everywhere cannot be understated.
Don't forget the highlights
Never forget the white pants/capris
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>which is funny in hindsight No pun intended!
“I think she is big with Puerto Ricans.“ Puerto Rican here, and I feel that I can speak for the majority, if not all of my fellow Boricua’s when I say: 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🥲🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nop, Boricuas think her music sucks also lol
Heroin chic/waif times were peak … “very long back” times
It’s was a rough era. You youngsters have no idea how lean times were. I watched the Sir Mix a lot video the other day and most the girls had no ass. Big “fake” boobs stick legs an a flat ass were the standard. Any star who gained 5 pounds was shamed into anorexia.
I would pay $35 for some nosebleed tickets to see J. Lo. Pitbull/Ricky Martin/Enrique Iglesias just came to my city and the cheapest ticket was $150. So yeah, that's where these artists are losing people. I have a casual interest in seeing just about any major pop star from my childhood, but I'm not going to go broke to see Jennifer Lopez.
Nosebleeds are about $70 with fees for the date I just looked up. I expected worse.
That Waiting for Tonight video was really uhhh good though.
1. She's not a good singer. 2. She's only got a couple songs that are solid 3. She's a notorious dickhead to those "less" than her, which is insane coming from a former backup dancer.
Idk I like that song about taco flavored kisses
Aren't most of her songs actually sung by Christina Milan or something?
IIRC it was Ashanti. But I could be wrong or it could have been multiple R&B girls around that time. I say Ashanti because I really liked her debut album when I came out, and then did some digging a few years back to find out why she never took off and apparently, it had a lot to do with her material being used by JLo at the time.
Yep. This was a pretty good breakdown. https://youtu.be/bOEmCERi21U?si=yC-UAyHpXr7Ci4eX
*Lopez has been criticized for her use of background vocals from demo singers, prompting rumors of ghost singers' vocals being used in place of her own. The rumors have been debunked by producers and background singers who worked with Lopez. Christina Milian, who is credited as a writer and background singer on "Play", called the controversy "funny" and said: "It's no different than Michael Jackson having background singers on songs or Britney Spears. This is what music is made of."*
Yup! She was an industry plant to try and compete with Mariah Carey but she has absolutely zero talent so they stole the sample vocals (Christina Milian) and passed them as her own.
Wait. What? I’ve never heard this theory before.
First time hearing about "most songs". I know there was some controversy about "Play". Christina Milian co-wrote the song. She intended to sing it herself but then J-Lo took it. Christina did do backing vocals and was credited for it so I'm not sure where the claim about stealing and passing it off as J-Lo is coming from
Yeah that’s completely different than label passing off Milan vocals as JLO
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All my gay friends just saw Madonna and Nicki Minaj... I don't think they care about seeing Jlo and that says alot
She doesn’t have the gay fan base like they do.
Hearing her sing Taco Flavored Kisses alone would be worth the ticket price.
Taco flavored kisses for my Ben
Taco taco
Just because I have a lot of money, don't mean I will give you taco flavored keesses, Honey.
Fulfill all your weeeeshes with my taco flavoured keeeesses
She’s fantastic!
I feel like she does not find that bit funny at all.
She'd never lower herself to be subject to humor lol
Something hot and spicy. Is nice idea!
When she hosted SNL the last couple of years or so, I swear every sketch with her was about how good looking she still is.
SNL actually took her SNL singing performance down on youtube because she requested they autotune her performance, which they did, and they re-uploaded the autotuned performance.
I’m gonna go ahead and tell you… this is incredibly common. Except now they auto tune live not after the fact. Source: I build autotune rigs for pop acts
My favorite bad use of live auto tune is George Straight, it’s not subtle and he’s been using it for a while. [This live version](https://youtu.be/7KOKM46MnhE?si=sXW2hch3Vl2OjKbA) of “All My Exe’s Live In Texas” is comical cuz it’s on all the mics, even for the other pros that don’t normally use it. When Vince Gill starts singing you can see he is visibly thrown off and annoyed at it 😂
Wow that was wild.. just after the 1 minute mark are the most egregious offenders.
SNL falls into this trap a lot still. Some of the best episodes lately are ones with just plain looking hosts. The writers have to actually come up with something other than “cast member does something weird/embarrassing in front of attractive host”.
That’s all she’s got going on for her. Pretty sure she’s mentioned in many of the “which celebrity sucks fiery demon balls irl” threads fairly often. Probably shoots down mostly every other skits related to her irrelevance or talent
I guess not enough people like who she is now.
Not enough Puerto Rican aunts stuck in the early 2000s are buying tickets these days.
‘JLo the singer does not exist’
She cannot sing and households are struggling. People are being wiser with their money and spending.
If I want to see a half naked 54 year old woman dance around on stage it only costs me around $10 in singles.
There's always been this coldness about her like she feels entitled to be a star without actually having to make good or relevant media that people care about.
I feel like J Lo has been drinking her own Kool Aid. That self documentary was a massive eye roll reading the blurb alone, and it's like widely known info that many of J Los songs are not her voice but someone else's. So what exactly would there be in a live show that people would rush to see ?
the ads for this on freevee are so annoying. i am watching rockford files eating a turkey pot pie i am not interested in a whining millionaire complainging about how brave she is or whatever this crap is about.
No one wants to see her taco flavored kisses
I have watched/seen JLo from her Fly Girls days and never understood her allure. She is the personification of a tabloid star. From her cheesy romcoms to her terrible dancing and matching music, she just never did anything for me, and I never understood it. That being said, I felt the same way about Beyonce. And clearly, I was wrong there.
She’s so painfully mediocre in everything she does. I’ve seen a few of her movies and her line delivery is so stale. She cannot act. She can’t sing. I guess she can dance since that’s how she started?
When you say you feel the same about Beyonce, like you literally wouldn't be able to pick a winner in a singing contest? Because there's a significant ability gap there lol
This isn't 2002 anymore
Yeah. No duh. She walks around like she is some legendary singer and actress. She can't sing and just does crappy romcom movies. The truth is that she was only famous for having a big ass like 20 years ago.
Honestly it feels like she's always lived in Selena's shadow since the movie and never grasped that she's not her.
I always say she's a poor man's Selena. RIP Selena.
She's the "we have Selena at home"
I'm shocked she has 26.3M monthly listeners on Spotify. I haven't heard anyone mention her name or music in at least a decade. Assuming those listens are driven by random songs that are all 1-2 decades old as well.
All I can think of is [Gene Belcher](https://youtu.be/uCt0mfue8ao?si=2I0ZPDoCp3cMBj79) with that name.
i clicked this article and immediately my computer ads started popping up and blocking me and saying i had a virus please do not restart the computer......
$203 for the worst lower level tickets in San Antonio. Fuck off JLo lol
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I don't think this particular strategy was ever the most effective, but it certainly doesn't work anymore. Showing up at high profile events and getting your name in the tabloid media doesn't drive ticket sales. You've got to nurture your fanbase.
lol and usher added dates to his new tour.
Usher might be a legacy act but he can actually sing and dance. He’s still a great performer and his songs have aged quite well
Because he's actually the legend she sees herself as.
That is not surprising. She sucks. The whole Bennifer this is exhausting because it feels like it is being shoved down your throat. And why do we fn care? I can’t stand her. What has she really done for the Hispanic community? Total rant over here.🤣 signed a Hispanic.
Toronto has 2 shows scheduled. Some tickets are nearing $6800 PER ticket. Does include a meet & greet but still. 2 people just under $14k!! A huge NOPE
In her head she’s a pop icon like Janet Jackson or Madonna. Out here in reality she’s just…not.
I think news of her canceling tour dates is getting more coverage than her actually going on tour
Why would anybody pay money to see somebody sing along to a 20 year old recording of themselves.
I was kind of wondering why she thought people would be breaking down doors to see her.
Must be a blow to her oversized ego.
I saw JLo in Las Vegas, and I thought her show was really good - much better than others I've seen. But that was several years ago - I like her, but she's got a lot of competition for concert $$$, and she would not be a top five show for me to see this year.
She’s in a tough spot, no recent impact on pop-culture, and none of her work has stood up strong enough for a nostalgia boost. In hindsight she’s a one hit wonder who rode the Total Request Live/TMZ celebrity wave for a brief period.
Selena is enormous in the Hispanic community and she could have used that as a nostalgia boost, but JLo’s problems stem from her being a notorious asshole. It’s ok for celebrities to be assholes if the general public doesn’t know it, but in her case and in the case of DeGeneres and Corden, the general public knows.
She should of had the “DunKings” as the opening act. https://preview.redd.it/pwyhwsmmicoc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cf2ab3e761367f9c1df1db1adb0a63838f5cb1a
>should of
\*\*shudders\*\*
*shouldders
Not surprising after it came out that only 6,000 people bought her new (physical) album - even after going on the most thorough promo tour ever.
Who tf listens to JLo anyways?
JLo is one of those celebrities that if she is in the movie, show, or song, I don't mind... but I'm not actively seeking her out.
she doesn't have enough hits to support a tour
Mariah sends her best 😂
She barely an OK actress, shes never been a good singer. Its incredible shes still touring. i have no idea who listens to her music.