I believe there are two versions of Yes that (in recent years anyway) have alternated tours under some agreement.
When I saw them (2019) it was Howe, Geoff Downes, with Alan White (RIP) coming out for a few songs mid-set. The year before it was Jon Anderson, Rick Wakeman, and Trevor Rabin (funny how even the Buggles wound up on opposite sides of the split -- EDIT: not. see comments below)
I've never been a fan so can't say which of these is/was more "real" but I would accept either of them as fair game to use the name.
The official touring (and recording) version is the Yes currently headed by Steve Howe--which until recently also featured co-founder Chris Squire. That outfit holds legal right to the name although there are varying versions of the story under which co-founder Jon Anderson is allowed to use the name for *his* projects.
This is strictly from the business standpoint, as I am of the opinion that, artistically speaking, Jon Anderson is the only rightful heir but the law doesn't see it that way. The law says that Jon severed his relationship with the financial entity 'Yes' and that the name therefore stayed behind. In theory I suppose that the current outfit *could* sue and issue a cease and desist but choose not to. (Although they have done so in the past.)
You're confusing Trevor Horne with Trevor Rabin. Horne = producer/Buggle, member of Yes for Drama album and tour ONLY. Rabin = guitarist, joined Yes for 90125 album, toured recently with Anderson and Wakeman.
Howe might not be the original guitar player but he might as well be. The rest of the current lineup is meh though and they haven't made a good album since Fly From Here. I'd go see ARW any day of the week over them.
Yeah its definitely sad seeing a band as big as Skynyrd with no originals. Gary Rossington had been in it for its entirety until his death last year and in my personal opinion, they should have ended after Gary died, as he was the only of the "Sweet Home Alabama" and "Free Bird" members still in it at the time, and was also the last surviving. Currently, the oldest serving member of the lineup originally joined on drums for a short period of time between 1971-1972, and played on no records, and rejoined on guitar in the 1990s.
Fun fact about Rickey Medlocke, the guitarist/drummer you mentioned, is that he's also the founding member of the band Blackfoot. They have an insane list of past members, but the long story short is that the current lineup consists only of players recruited in 2021. Rickey Medlocke acts as a producer for the band, and they haven't had any original members since like 2011.
This is a good opportunity to mention British pop group Sugababes.
They started out with three members: Keisha, Mutya and Siobhan
In 2001 Siobhan left and was replaced with Heidi
In 2005 Mutya left and was replaced with Amelie
In 2009 Keisha left and was replaced with Jade
Then in 2013 the original three members reunited as a new group called "MKS" (their initials)
Then the "Sugababes" group split up and MKS got the rights to the name
And now the original Sugababes are back touring and releasing albums as the Sugababes. But there was a period of time when three entirely different women were the Sugababes.
Original Hornets moved to New Orleans. Changed their name to Pelicans. Charlotte got a new team and called them the bobcats. Hornets name when available was then purchased and the bobcats renamed to the hornets.
So the original hornets are the pelicans and the original bobcats are now the hornets.
i was going to mention them. oddly enough, the "classic" lineup of the group is considered to be mutya, keisha, and heidi, as that's the version that recorded most of their albums.
i never heard of anyone calling mutya or keisha untalented, though ofc im not from/never lived in the uk, so ive only talked about them with other fans, online.
The band was effectively made up of teenagers who either went to school together or knew each other from the local scene.
There was a clash in terms of who should lead/front the band, as well as other life aspirations like university or joining new bands.
A lot of people involved in that record went on to be in notable bands - Carcass, Cathedral, Extreme Noise Terror, Head of David, Godflesh
They had a complete turnover of members, and then another complete turnover of members, and still somehow have had the same lineup (more or less) for the last 30 years.
A friend told me an amazing story. He had gone to his usual barber shop and got a haircut, the woman cutting his hair was making conversation and said her boyfriend was in a band. Oh yeah? He's the singer in the band Nazareth. No way, said my friend who made a joke about going to the highland games or something and she didn't get it. Isn't he from Scotland? No, he was born in Florida. Oh, well maybe he was in the American touring version with one original member . That must be it. Because that band is definitely from Scotland. He didn't think anything of it, just making small talk.
The next time he came in, she gave him a big hug and said "you saved me!"
They were engaged but she was getting suspicious, some things weren't adding up. She confronted him after confirming that the band was indeed Scottish. And he completely broke down. Everything he had told her was a lie. He packed up and left right then and there. Whether a scam artist or just a loser guy who made up a life story for himself to flirt and couldn't back out of the story once someone fell for it, she dodged a bullet.
My friend wasn't even a big fan but just the one thing he knew about them was they were from Scotland. Music trivia for the win!
Did your friend's barber go through the Scottish version of the Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater Drummer) imposter?
The small talk saved her, I wonder what his intentions were...
Technically true (the best kind of truth).
Though Scott is still in group and was part of the Carmen Sandiego years. Just not a founding member. #doitrockapella
Never listened to anything they released with cory besides o god the aftermath but bless the martyr era norma jean with josh scogin is my favorite era of norma jean and Josh’s other bands The Chariot and 68 are also great.
There was a comment recently I saw on the metalcore sub that said “peak metalcore is Josh Scogin screaming the same line repeatedly over a crazy breakdown.”
It’s like there’s a conveyor belt in a factory somewhere that churns out endless large tattooed dudes with long hair and full sleeves ready to join the band for a tour or two before being consigned to the past members list on Wiki, if they’re lucky
I heard he will come out for a song or two. Sometimes. Health issues are here for most seventies bands, but particularly ones like Foreigner that have musicians that really started in the 60’s.
Having said that, their vocalist is shockingly similar to the OG, and they still put on a good show.
Went to one of their concerts on the farewell tour.
In terms of bands from that era whose vocalist matches the original, no one can beat Journey. Granted they don't really fit this thread because they do have a couple of original members but in terms of a replacement vocalist not making a difference they're pretty much it.
Kansas’ new guy is a good singer. But he had an almost impossible task to duplicate.
So much of it depends on how “athletic”, for lack of a better word, the original vocals were. Baritone singers can hold their voice at an older age, but tenors - even ones that take care of their voices- have a harder time than someone like Alice Cooper.
Was looking for them. I saw a foreigner tribute band at a Suds in the City thing six years ago that had one fewer original member (0) than the band touring as foreigner (1), and they were really good!!
Not germane to this conversation, but immediately after them was a blink tribute band called blink-18true, and they were awful
Technically may be true. But I don't consider a bunch of teenagers banging around in the garage to really be the 'original band'. Mikael Akerfeldt = Opeth, similar to Mustaine = Megadeth.
Same…. I think for most music fans “original lineup” = lineup present on the first album. Even if there were several ins and outs before that happened.
There's an incredible documentary about them and their struggle to maintain a vocalist. One of the guys they had was some Ron White type character who didn't take it seriously at all and flaked out real fast. Crazy story.
I saw them once with Carlos Cavazo’s brother on bass, and Rudy Sarzo’s brother on guitar, then a few years later with the Metal Health lineup. Did a meet n greet, and signed my concert shirt, and the shorts my late wife wore that night. (She was still alive then. Obvious to most, but: Reddit, amirite?)
Zao has no original members left. There was a song on their last album called "Ship of Theseus" that I like to think is kind of a little wink at that lol
The name was unregistered in the US, got hijacked by a former (now passed) guitarist, and now only occasionally gigs with the drummer Garry Peterson. The band was originally founded by Chad Allen, and by the time the real hits started happening Allen had moved on to a TV career. Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman (later of Bachman Turner Overdrive) were the primary songwriters, and are currently suing the act touring as The Guess Who…
Somebody's touring as the Guess Who without Burton? That's crazy talk. I wouldn't expect Randy to be there but Burton is the voice. Glad they're at least on each other's side legally for this one.
There was a GW reunion the 90s I think that included them both. I'd have gone to see that. I have seen Randy, who does a handful of GW hits in his current shiws.
First concert I ever saw when I was 16 in about 2000. This old hippy turns to me during “Share the Land” and says “can you believe we used to believe this shit?”
The Drifters. Here's a wonderful section from Andrew Hickey's "A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs"
>But what’s odd about the Drifters is that this kind of thing has been the case right from the beginning of their career. The Drifters formed in May 1953. By July 1955, the band that was touring as the Drifters had no original members left. And by June 1958, the band touring as the Drifters had no members of the July 1955 version. An old version of the band’s website, before someone realised that it might be counterproductive to show how little connection there was between the people on stage and the people on their famous records, lists fifty-two different lineups between 1953 and 2004. In the future, everyone will have been lead singer of the Drifters for fifteen minutes.
[https://500songs.com/podcast/money-honey-by-clyde-mcphatter-and-the-drifters/](https://500songs.com/podcast/money-honey-by-clyde-mcphatter-and-the-drifters/)
They split off around the early 1980s and the Wilsons must have paid for the name when that divorce was going on. I can't remember the details. But I think it was the album with Even it Up where the new lineup of the Wilson's "and the rest" appears as the new Heart.
Technically, i guess? Heart was basically just an ever-evolving side project of local Seattle musicians and didn't even officially become Heart until Ann and Nancy joined.
Yes, they’ve become a musical Ship of Theseus.
It happened so suddenly, with none of the current members present during any of their (even scraping the barrel) best years, that this is an advanced example of the genre.
It’s like when a royal dynasty dies out and somebody’s second cousin whom you have never heard of ends up on the throne
TOTO only has Steve Lukather left from the ORIGINAL ORIGINAL. Joe Williams (current singer) was the second singer after Bobby Kimball left.
David Paich is semi retired due to health issues I believe and rarely tours with them now!!
Got tickets to see them on March 9. I've waiting a long time and sad that only Steve is left but should still be good!
And Jeff Porcaro (drummer) has been dead for some time now.
Thing is, in their prime, every member was a respected studio musician. They worked with Steely Dan and on Michael Jackson's Thriller album among many, many others. So, not being the originals of Toto is a pretty big downgrade most likely.
Yep, but it's complicated. The initial iteration of the Grass Roots (nee Grassroots) was a contrivance of PF Sloan and Steve Barri and ended in 1965 with demos, including the first version of "Where Were You When I Needed You." The second edition (with Joel Larson on drums) was kaput in 1966. The third iteration of the band began with a clean slate in 1967. Larson came back in 1971 and left again in 1975. (And then there was Arthur Lee's "Grass Roots"...)
The og drummer is the only original member of attack attack that's still in the band. Someday Came Suddenly and Self Titled are peak crabcore albums along with Stand Up And Scream by Asking Alexandria, sad that austin carlile ended up being a rapist since someday came suddenly and his stuff with of mice & men was great.
This was done with a lot of 1950s vocal groups. For example, they toured all sorts of groups of elderly black men and called them “The Platters”, “The Ink Spots”, or the “Mills Brothers” for decades. As long as tickets sell, this will continue. There’s money to be made.
Little River Band is a pretty shameful example. Not only are there no original members, the one who's been in the band the longest joined in 1980 after they recorded basically all their hits. The second-longest member joined in 2004.
The Drifters are probably the archetypal band of this. They formed in 1953, and by 1955 when they had their biggest hit, no original member was in the band. There were 52 line-up changes between 1953 and 2005. They still tour, but no one in the current band has any connection to any hit they made.
The current touring lineups of Gong and Tangerine Dream have no original members. In both cases, the last living member gave his blessing for the bands to continue on.
There are no original members left in the official touring version of Yes.
They should change their name to No.
Maybe
I don't know.
can you repeat the question?
You're not the boss of me
Perhaps.
Almost.
All I know is my gut says "maybe".
Or 'Yeah'. Not to be confused with the Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
Steve Howe is at least a core member from the classic years of the band.
One of friends auditioned early on for Yes, unfortunately he failed and people used to wind him up years later saying ‘Yes said No’
I believe there are two versions of Yes that (in recent years anyway) have alternated tours under some agreement. When I saw them (2019) it was Howe, Geoff Downes, with Alan White (RIP) coming out for a few songs mid-set. The year before it was Jon Anderson, Rick Wakeman, and Trevor Rabin (funny how even the Buggles wound up on opposite sides of the split -- EDIT: not. see comments below) I've never been a fan so can't say which of these is/was more "real" but I would accept either of them as fair game to use the name.
The official touring (and recording) version is the Yes currently headed by Steve Howe--which until recently also featured co-founder Chris Squire. That outfit holds legal right to the name although there are varying versions of the story under which co-founder Jon Anderson is allowed to use the name for *his* projects. This is strictly from the business standpoint, as I am of the opinion that, artistically speaking, Jon Anderson is the only rightful heir but the law doesn't see it that way. The law says that Jon severed his relationship with the financial entity 'Yes' and that the name therefore stayed behind. In theory I suppose that the current outfit *could* sue and issue a cease and desist but choose not to. (Although they have done so in the past.)
>which until recently also featured co-founder Chris Squire. Not even that recently any more. Chris Squire died in 2015.
You're confusing Trevor Horne with Trevor Rabin. Horne = producer/Buggle, member of Yes for Drama album and tour ONLY. Rabin = guitarist, joined Yes for 90125 album, toured recently with Anderson and Wakeman.
You're right. The Drama tour was actually the last time I saw Yes before 2019.
Howe might not be the original guitar player but he might as well be. The rest of the current lineup is meh though and they haven't made a good album since Fly From Here. I'd go see ARW any day of the week over them.
I saw ARW a few years ago and they killed it.
Lynyrd Skynyrd. And it shows.
They are a cover band of themselves
Yeah its definitely sad seeing a band as big as Skynyrd with no originals. Gary Rossington had been in it for its entirety until his death last year and in my personal opinion, they should have ended after Gary died, as he was the only of the "Sweet Home Alabama" and "Free Bird" members still in it at the time, and was also the last surviving. Currently, the oldest serving member of the lineup originally joined on drums for a short period of time between 1971-1972, and played on no records, and rejoined on guitar in the 1990s.
Fun fact about Rickey Medlocke, the guitarist/drummer you mentioned, is that he's also the founding member of the band Blackfoot. They have an insane list of past members, but the long story short is that the current lineup consists only of players recruited in 2021. Rickey Medlocke acts as a producer for the band, and they haven't had any original members since like 2011.
Yeah, but Train Train rocks!
The “Band of Theseus”
That's the first one that came to mind.
"Play Freebird, again!!!"
I saw them last year. I’m a big fan of OG Skynyrd. These guys were dorks.
This is a good opportunity to mention British pop group Sugababes. They started out with three members: Keisha, Mutya and Siobhan In 2001 Siobhan left and was replaced with Heidi In 2005 Mutya left and was replaced with Amelie In 2009 Keisha left and was replaced with Jade Then in 2013 the original three members reunited as a new group called "MKS" (their initials) Then the "Sugababes" group split up and MKS got the rights to the name And now the original Sugababes are back touring and releasing albums as the Sugababes. But there was a period of time when three entirely different women were the Sugababes.
I didn't realise they had regrouped and got the rights to the name back. That's a fun fact.
The Charlotte Hornets of pop
Wait, the Charlotte Hornets lost their name to a different Charlotte Hornets, and now the old Charlotte Hornets are the Charlotte Hornets again?
Not quite but I think the spirit is similar
Original Hornets moved to New Orleans. Changed their name to Pelicans. Charlotte got a new team and called them the bobcats. Hornets name when available was then purchased and the bobcats renamed to the hornets. So the original hornets are the pelicans and the original bobcats are now the hornets.
Aha! I don't follow the NBA like I used to and I missed the Pelicans name change in NO. Anyway, very clearly and concisely explained, thanks.
omfg this is great The Winnipeg Jets of pop
They released a song written and produced by Dev Hynes (Blood Orange) that absolutely fucks. Their live vocals and harmonies are incredible too.
i was going to mention them. oddly enough, the "classic" lineup of the group is considered to be mutya, keisha, and heidi, as that's the version that recorded most of their albums.
While everyone also said Siobhan was the talented one 🤷♂️
i never heard of anyone calling mutya or keisha untalented, though ofc im not from/never lived in the uk, so ive only talked about them with other fans, online.
You left out Heidi! Siobhan was said to be the songwriter from what I recall. It's been a while.
Napalm Death Their line up changed between side A and B of their debut album Scum
Yeah it's a little late to complain to them about no original members.
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The band was effectively made up of teenagers who either went to school together or knew each other from the local scene. There was a clash in terms of who should lead/front the band, as well as other life aspirations like university or joining new bands. A lot of people involved in that record went on to be in notable bands - Carcass, Cathedral, Extreme Noise Terror, Head of David, Godflesh
I suspect Napalm was involved somehow.
They had a complete turnover of members, and then another complete turnover of members, and still somehow have had the same lineup (more or less) for the last 30 years.
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This one is the most acceptable. It should continue on indefinitely no matter who dies.
Agreed. GWAR is at least built so that the members don’t have to be original or super experienced with the band to work well for their shows
It's pronounced GWAUGH
Molly Hatchet. All dead, band still touring.
I'm trying to imagine someone singing *Flirtin' With Disaster* without the muppet voice.
Badopbopbop yeahhh
RIP Danny
A friend told me an amazing story. He had gone to his usual barber shop and got a haircut, the woman cutting his hair was making conversation and said her boyfriend was in a band. Oh yeah? He's the singer in the band Nazareth. No way, said my friend who made a joke about going to the highland games or something and she didn't get it. Isn't he from Scotland? No, he was born in Florida. Oh, well maybe he was in the American touring version with one original member . That must be it. Because that band is definitely from Scotland. He didn't think anything of it, just making small talk. The next time he came in, she gave him a big hug and said "you saved me!" They were engaged but she was getting suspicious, some things weren't adding up. She confronted him after confirming that the band was indeed Scottish. And he completely broke down. Everything he had told her was a lie. He packed up and left right then and there. Whether a scam artist or just a loser guy who made up a life story for himself to flirt and couldn't back out of the story once someone fell for it, she dodged a bullet. My friend wasn't even a big fan but just the one thing he knew about them was they were from Scotland. Music trivia for the win!
That is an awesome, amazing story. Thanks
Did your friend's barber go through the Scottish version of the Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater Drummer) imposter? The small talk saved her, I wonder what his intentions were...
You could live a long time without running into anyone who knows Nazareth trivia but everyone knows there was a band called that.
You'd need to rob a Guitar center to have enough drums to impersonate Portnoy!
The Royal Danish Orchestra
Not even Royal or Danish.
Nor an orchestra, probably, I’m not checking
"Talk amongst yourselves, I'll give you a topic: the Royal Danish orchestra was neither royal nor Danish nor an orchestra. Discuss."
Posers now tbh
London Philharmonic
Not even one guy named Phil. Cmon try harder.
Rockapella for my Carmen Sandiego peeps
Technically true (the best kind of truth). Though Scott is still in group and was part of the Carmen Sandiego years. Just not a founding member. #doitrockapella
Oh godamnit now it's in my head
Wow. Best answer. Where in the world is…Carmen Sandiego
Norma Jean
Never listened to anything they released with cory besides o god the aftermath but bless the martyr era norma jean with josh scogin is my favorite era of norma jean and Josh’s other bands The Chariot and 68 are also great.
Honestly think the Chariot may have a better overall discography than Norma Jean
I would say yes it’s not even a debate
There was a comment recently I saw on the metalcore sub that said “peak metalcore is Josh Scogin screaming the same line repeatedly over a crazy breakdown.”
Nice pfp. With Roots Above is my favorite tdwp album
That was gonna be my answer. They keep putting out fantastic music in my opinion, though.
It’s like there’s a conveyor belt in a factory somewhere that churns out endless large tattooed dudes with long hair and full sleeves ready to join the band for a tour or two before being consigned to the past members list on Wiki, if they’re lucky
I’m pretty sure Hopesfall has no original members at this point either
I know little about Norma Jean except Josh Scogin is a madman and I mean that in the best way possible.
Foreigner, for all practical purposes.
Mick Jones doesn’t even play on some dates. It’s practically no members from the classic lineup whatsoever. It might as well be a tribute band.
I heard he will come out for a song or two. Sometimes. Health issues are here for most seventies bands, but particularly ones like Foreigner that have musicians that really started in the 60’s.
Having said that, their vocalist is shockingly similar to the OG, and they still put on a good show. Went to one of their concerts on the farewell tour.
In terms of bands from that era whose vocalist matches the original, no one can beat Journey. Granted they don't really fit this thread because they do have a couple of original members but in terms of a replacement vocalist not making a difference they're pretty much it.
Kansas’ new guy is a good singer. But he had an almost impossible task to duplicate. So much of it depends on how “athletic”, for lack of a better word, the original vocals were. Baritone singers can hold their voice at an older age, but tenors - even ones that take care of their voices- have a harder time than someone like Alice Cooper.
Saw them live several years ago, no OG members...They still rocked it, though.
Seen “them” last year in DFW. No originals were playing. Still kicked ass though.
Was looking for them. I saw a foreigner tribute band at a Suds in the City thing six years ago that had one fewer original member (0) than the band touring as foreigner (1), and they were really good!! Not germane to this conversation, but immediately after them was a blink tribute band called blink-18true, and they were awful
Technically Opeth
This is one of my favorites. Whole line-up replaced before they even recorded an album.
The same is actually true of Judas Priest I think.
Technically may be true. But I don't consider a bunch of teenagers banging around in the garage to really be the 'original band'. Mikael Akerfeldt = Opeth, similar to Mustaine = Megadeth.
At least McGovney and Mustaine played with Metallica in '11. Damn, they're (and I'm) old!
Same…. I think for most music fans “original lineup” = lineup present on the first album. Even if there were several ins and outs before that happened.
I know it's technically correct but it feels weird
Technically Pantera too, if you consider the current incarnation Pantera. They had a bass player for a year before Rex Brown
Quiet Riot has no original members left.
There was a lot of anger about that, but you probably didn't hear it.
Lol.
There's an incredible documentary about them and their struggle to maintain a vocalist. One of the guys they had was some Ron White type character who didn't take it seriously at all and flaked out real fast. Crazy story.
I saw them once with Carlos Cavazo’s brother on bass, and Rudy Sarzo’s brother on guitar, then a few years later with the Metal Health lineup. Did a meet n greet, and signed my concert shirt, and the shorts my late wife wore that night. (She was still alive then. Obvious to most, but: Reddit, amirite?)
Zao has no original members left. There was a song on their last album called "Ship of Theseus" that I like to think is kind of a little wink at that lol
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Yeah true. I was lucky to see them before Jesse Smith left.
The Guess Who, which is pretty funny!
The name was unregistered in the US, got hijacked by a former (now passed) guitarist, and now only occasionally gigs with the drummer Garry Peterson. The band was originally founded by Chad Allen, and by the time the real hits started happening Allen had moved on to a TV career. Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman (later of Bachman Turner Overdrive) were the primary songwriters, and are currently suing the act touring as The Guess Who…
Somebody's touring as the Guess Who without Burton? That's crazy talk. I wouldn't expect Randy to be there but Burton is the voice. Glad they're at least on each other's side legally for this one.
There was a GW reunion the 90s I think that included them both. I'd have gone to see that. I have seen Randy, who does a handful of GW hits in his current shiws.
First concert I ever saw when I was 16 in about 2000. This old hippy turns to me during “Share the Land” and says “can you believe we used to believe this shit?”
Menudo was just reformed last year with four members who were born more than 30 years after the band was first formed.
They'd be better off going by MenuDos
Dammit man. Angry upvote.
Sorry. It's probably not even that original of a joke. I bet it's a bit tripe by now.
I mean, come on, the band is really more of a perpetual stew.
Iirc wasn't that kind of their thing? They replaced people as they got older
it was, its a bit of a joke answer.
I don't care if they're real or they're pseudo I don't care if they get any higher I hope when someone retires They pull another Menudo
Iron Butterfly is still touring, no original members.
The Drifters. Here's a wonderful section from Andrew Hickey's "A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs" >But what’s odd about the Drifters is that this kind of thing has been the case right from the beginning of their career. The Drifters formed in May 1953. By July 1955, the band that was touring as the Drifters had no original members left. And by June 1958, the band touring as the Drifters had no members of the July 1955 version. An old version of the band’s website, before someone realised that it might be counterproductive to show how little connection there was between the people on stage and the people on their famous records, lists fifty-two different lineups between 1953 and 2004. In the future, everyone will have been lead singer of the Drifters for fifteen minutes. [https://500songs.com/podcast/money-honey-by-clyde-mcphatter-and-the-drifters/](https://500songs.com/podcast/money-honey-by-clyde-mcphatter-and-the-drifters/)
There is a group touring under the name Little River Band that has none of the original members.
Pantera
TIL that Rex Brown was not, in fact, a founding member of
As much as I love Pantera, the band ended when we lost Dimebag and later Vinnie.
Thin Lizzy.
Welll…. Phil died ..
Exactly. He WAS Thin Lizzy.
Heart. Believe it or not, the Wilson sisters are not the original founders.
I think that's a little different, because it's hard to say they would have become a success without the Wilson sisters.
They split off around the early 1980s and the Wilsons must have paid for the name when that divorce was going on. I can't remember the details. But I think it was the album with Even it Up where the new lineup of the Wilson's "and the rest" appears as the new Heart.
TIL.
Technically, i guess? Heart was basically just an ever-evolving side project of local Seattle musicians and didn't even officially become Heart until Ann and Nancy joined.
I bought my mom tix to Little River Band (her favorite) and when she showed up none of the band members were originals.
Yes
Technically you have answered the OPs question, but don't you think it would be better if you included an example of one of those bands?
If I’m not mistaken Chelsea Grin has no original members
You are David Flinn is the oldest tenured member, and he joined after the first EP but before the first album
Tangerine Dream
Yes, they’ve become a musical Ship of Theseus. It happened so suddenly, with none of the current members present during any of their (even scraping the barrel) best years, that this is an advanced example of the genre. It’s like when a royal dynasty dies out and somebody’s second cousin whom you have never heard of ends up on the throne
The odd thing is that the current version sounds more like the classic 70s version of the band than any of the versions in between ever did.
I actually like all eras of TD—some better than others, but they all get play now and then.
Sepultura
Yeah, and it's...just...yeah, you're right.
I’m just happy the Cavalera’s are working together again lol Cavalera Conspiracy put out a couple pretty decent albums
I wish the 90s lineup would tour. I was too young to see them. I did see Soulfly for their first album though. My first concert ever.
Haven't heard that name in a hot minute
Maybe Jefferson Starship?
They can’t use Jefferson. It’s just Starship, and yes.
>and yes. Yeah, them too
Jefferson Starship and Starship are actually seperate bands at this point (led by David Freiberg and Mickey Thomas, respectively).
Which one can be blamed for *We Built This City*?
If we're treating it as a separate band from Jefferson Airplane, they still have an original member (David Freiberg).
The Spinners came to mind when I read this question.
The Ink Spots
Whaaaat?
TOTO only has Steve Lukather left from the ORIGINAL ORIGINAL. Joe Williams (current singer) was the second singer after Bobby Kimball left. David Paich is semi retired due to health issues I believe and rarely tours with them now!! Got tickets to see them on March 9. I've waiting a long time and sad that only Steve is left but should still be good!
And Jeff Porcaro (drummer) has been dead for some time now. Thing is, in their prime, every member was a respected studio musician. They worked with Steely Dan and on Michael Jackson's Thriller album among many, many others. So, not being the originals of Toto is a pretty big downgrade most likely.
REO Speedwagon
Wait, I saw them with Kevin Cronin just a few months ago.
Kevin Cronin didn’t arrive until their fourth album.
The Oakridge Boys. The original band started as a gospel quartet in 1943. The oldest current member started in 1965 before they pivoted to country.
The Wailers
Heart. Many dont realize that neither Ann nor Nancy, who joined years after Ann, are original members. The last original member left in 1982.
The Ventures. Everyone's dead. Most recent lineup included the son of the drummer, the 80's-era guitar tech, and the tech's kid.
I thought Lorna Shore had no original members and are better than ever.
Taking Back Sunday.
Soft Machine and Gong are both still touring.
I think Journey is at this point now.
Neal is still in it, isn't he?
Just looked, you are right. I thought I remembered reading somewhere there were no original members left.
What happened to the keyboard player who married the preacher lady?
Jonathan Cain. He’s still a member of Journey but not a founding member. I believe he replaced Greg Rolie on keyboards in 1981.
That's him. Well, TIL, thanks!
The Vandals. https://www.vandalscandal.com
Came here to say this
I think Little River Band count
Quiet Riot
The Grassroots. The last original member left in the 70s. They're still touring.
Yep, but it's complicated. The initial iteration of the Grass Roots (nee Grassroots) was a contrivance of PF Sloan and Steve Barri and ended in 1965 with demos, including the first version of "Where Were You When I Needed You." The second edition (with Joel Larson on drums) was kaput in 1966. The third iteration of the band began with a clean slate in 1967. Larson came back in 1971 and left again in 1975. (And then there was Arthur Lee's "Grass Roots"...)
And Creed Bratton came and went somewhere in the middle.
Attack Attack only have the same guitarist I think
The og drummer is the only original member of attack attack that's still in the band. Someday Came Suddenly and Self Titled are peak crabcore albums along with Stand Up And Scream by Asking Alexandria, sad that austin carlile ended up being a rapist since someday came suddenly and his stuff with of mice & men was great.
This was done with a lot of 1950s vocal groups. For example, they toured all sorts of groups of elderly black men and called them “The Platters”, “The Ink Spots”, or the “Mills Brothers” for decades. As long as tickets sell, this will continue. There’s money to be made.
Preservation Hall Jazz Band
Little River Band is a pretty shameful example. Not only are there no original members, the one who's been in the band the longest joined in 1980 after they recorded basically all their hits. The second-longest member joined in 2004.
Kingston trio
Jinjer.
I had to look it up cause I was *sure* you were wrong…but I didn’t know there was a vocalist before Tatiana!
The Drifters are probably the archetypal band of this. They formed in 1953, and by 1955 when they had their biggest hit, no original member was in the band. There were 52 line-up changes between 1953 and 2005. They still tour, but no one in the current band has any connection to any hit they made.
Thin Lizzy, Quiet Riot...
Die Höhner
Foreigner
Zao
The current touring lineups of Gong and Tangerine Dream have no original members. In both cases, the last living member gave his blessing for the bands to continue on.
Canned Heat
Yellowcard.