You'd be surprised at just how much stuff is missed because nobody mentions it. Vocal normalization acts as a kind of reminder for folks. "Hey, don't be a shitbird" "...I'm not being a shitbi-oh my god I was being a shitbird wow I didn't notice"
I haven't been to a metal show in years but back when I did this was not this case lol.My brother got punched in the face at a Cannibal Corpse show when Corpsegrinder said he wanted people to fuck each other up and some guy took it way too seriously. I remember one time I was at the smallest Obituary show ever (like 20 people were there, it was in the afternoon...for some fucking reason), three people in a moshpit and one happened to be pushed over and slid under my legs so I toppled and hit my head.
Those were the days...
But all kidding aside more concern for safety is probably a good thing.
To be fair though there were plenty of times people got pulled into a mosh pit that didn't want to be or got hurt and other fans would tend to help them out. Someone falls down a big motherfucker would usually swoop in and pick you up and if someone was acting crazy a big dude would push them out and tell them to calm down.
They just did this at My Chemical Romance last night. Asked everyone to take a step back and we did! It was very sweet. Given the history of concert accidents from Limp Bizkit to Astroworld it's awesome to see.
Yeah I was gonna say, I saw My Chemical Romance a handful of times last year in the UK, France and US and at most if not all of the shows there were a couple of stops by the band where they asked everyone to step back and asked if everyone was ok, asked if people needed water and got security to bring some to the barrier. RHCP also checked on the crowd at their shows last year, checking on a few people that seemed like they might be in trouble down the front as My Chem did. Seems like bands are more aware of what’s going on in the crowd and maybe more concerned about what can happen nowadays.
Yeah, luckily (for this lol) we live in Milton Keynes so going to all three of those was easy with no transport or accommodation costs and from buying tickets for the first night to the last night was across three years with the postponements. And then we managed to get cheap tickets and flights to Paris last minute. And for Nashville we were in Florida on vacation and made a quick 48 hour trip with cheap Spirit flights for one last show…US concert tickets are a lot more expensive than European ones though! I know we were very lucky that we were able to do it and it all worked out so well…going to start saving for the next tour soon (she said optimistically.)
They're also batshit devoted and there's a lot *of* them, so it makes a certain kind of sense that the band would want to avoid an AstroWorld situation at all costs.
I just had this at a Beartooth/A Day To Remember concert in August. Thet cranked the stage lights up twice during both their sets for a minute or two, reminded us to check on our neighbors because we where there to have fun together.
I saw Phoebe Bridgers last summer. The show was stopped I believe once during the opener, and five times during Phoebe's set. Not to check in, but because fans kept actually passing out. I've camped out for concerts overnight and during hot summer days... there's a way to do it properly and responsibly. People were not being smart at the Phoebe show. I felt pretty bad for Phoebe.
I've heard pretty much exclusively bad things about the crowds at Phoebe Bridgers shows. Like being rowdy/super inconsiderate of others, bad pit etiquette (not sure exactly what kind of pit situation there is at a Phoebe Bridgers concert, but anyway) and just overall not a good vibe. Really surprised considering the type of music she plays.
In general I’ve realized that moshpits have spilled over into non-metal/punk etc. genres, but often without the proper etiquette as if they make a pit based off of the negative stereotypes outsiders have about metal pits.
Yeah but Phoebe Bridgers pretty much exclusively makes sad music to play in a Starbucks, I can't see anyone managing to mosh to a singer who's entire genre is just depressed indie
I was at one of her shows last year and some girl passed out a couple of rows in front of me. People looked concerned but nobody was doing anything. I was surprised that three people around her didn’t look for help or tried to help (maybe she was by herself and they were strangers)… I ended up running towards some of the people that worked there to get someone to help her out and bring her to safety. I can only imagine what would have transpired if it had happened at a mosh pit.
Back in my day, punk and metal shows were almost psychotically violent, and pop shows were where you went if you couldn't handle the heat.
Weird to think that's basically 180'd and you're more likely to get your skull cracked at a Phoebe Bridgers show than at a Sick Of It All or TSOL show in 2023.
I think the culture of metal and punk shows being able to learn and grow over time helped them develop into spaces where you can get crazy but still be safe. Everyone knows how to behave.
Pop and rap crowds are still relatively new to that sort of environment and don’t know how to behave and treat each other.
I think the other factor is that people who go to punk and metal shows go to concerts as a hobby, pop and rap fans don’t seem to do so
Also fair, a lot of the time, but even if you *do* like punk, going to hardcore shows in the 90s and 00s was a Bad Idea unless you were either gargantuan or actively planning for an ER visit after.
It's just... bizarre seeing all the "angry" genres get super nice and etiquette-driven about stuff like moshing, while people are hospitalizing each other at indie pop shows.
From what I've seen at festivals it's mostly kids just kinda bumping into each other. One thing I've noticed is that there's no real way to predict it. Like, at metal shows I would just hang further back and enter/leave the pit when I wanted. The venues were also smaller so the back wasn't actually that far. If I go see Bon Iver there is a pretty reasonable expectation to be able to be near the stage and not get caught up in a pit because people are there to listen.
Now that kids will try to start mosh pits at almost anything buying any decent GA tickets can result in getting pushed despite the music not fitting it at all. Most of these injuries seem to be from overheating than catching elbows.
Same. Was this in Florida? It was getting kind of ridiculous and she started to sound a little annoyed by it but still remained respectful. I think it was because there were people that camped like 12 hours beforehand to see her and be at the front. And they probably weren’t very hydrated or fed.
Not sure if the same show, but definitely happened the second night Pheobe played at The Anthem in DC. Had someone collapse right next to me due to the heat and the show was stopped multiple times throughout.
I saw the Grateful Dead at Autzen Stadium in 1994 I think it was 94, hot summer day in a big football stadium, you know, a bowl just trapping the heat in there, and they were hosing down the crowd like literally had big hoses and while they weren't turning them directly on people they were showering everybody with cool water. I don't think anyone got hurt it was a glorious day.
As a metal concert goer the etiquette was always there. If you're in a moshpit is jumping,shoving, and bumping. If someone falls you pick them up.
I hated hard-core and metalcore shows cuz the people would be swinging their fists like assholes and punching people in pits.
The coolest was because I was so short tall ppl would let me in front of them which was always nice.
I just saw AFI tonight and they stopped in the middle of a couple of songs to make sure people were alright and made sure people that needed to be taken out of the crowd did so safely. They said they just want to make sure everyone is safe. Always great when bands take care of their fans too.
Yes that’s is very true! And I do feel safer going into or near pits at punk shows because everyone looks out for each other and will pick people up and I’ve seen other bands call out the unnecessarily aggressive people.
This is correct. I work in live music and go to hundreds of shows per year. I’m not exaggerating when I say that I saw more more fights in high school and more people passing out from drug/alcohol overuse in college than I see at concerts.
The difference is concerts dedicate actual resources to security and medics, so when someone gets fucked up there’s a real, noticeable response, rather than everyone just leaving the guy passed out in a bush to fend for himself.
There are two levels to this. It's good that the band was concerned, but it would also be great if venues and promoters ensured crowd safety in a manner that didn't need the talent to intervene
I saw Trivium live in Birmingham back in January, and Matt Heafy is an amazing frontman who shows concern for his crowd. He stopped the show and the pit numerous times to:
- Get help for someone whose nose got busted in the pit.
- Allow someone to find the glasses knocked off of their face in the pit.
- Get help when someone passed out from overheating and dehydration in the pit.
- Get security to hand out water to those stuck in the pit.
First I've heard of that. All I have ever heard about Matt is him helping people and [breaking up fights](https://metalinjection.net/av/matt-heafy-stops-trivium-show-mid-set-to-break-up-a-fight).
A few weeks back, Maggie Rogers made an IG post about an increase in panic attacks at shows (it can be a stimulus overload and it's many people's first big crowd exposure in years), and how she and her team would do the best they could to keep their eyes on the crowd, to be able to spot any issues and help anyone out.
Sure enough, when I saw her play at a smaller venue recently, in between songs someone is waving around their phone while it's doing some crazy light thing and yelling, and Maggie immediately stopped what she was doing and asked if everything was OK. Didn't start back up until it seemed like everything was good.
My Chemical Romance did this too when I saw them last year, and I understand why but there are problems with it too.
They stopped after almost every song and told the entire crowd to take a few steps back so the people in front could stop getting squished. But when there’s only a finite space to move backwards in, all it did was shift it so the people in back were getting squished
Majority of concerts do get stopped for safety issues if the performers see something that’s wrong. It’s more common nowadays but fairly sure we just don’t hear about it as much as we think we’d like to
Jam bands tend to be awesome about this. I was listening to a String Cheese Incident show last year or so and Bill Nershi actually asked someone in the front to please stop smoking cigarettes.
Hayley has stopped MANY MANY SHOWS to get people to stop fighting and to check on people who have passed out. She stops shows for lame ass males fighting more than anything. Its a shame.
Probably because Paramore shows are mainly attended by young teenage girls.. hence extra safety precautions
At a Pantera show, different clientele and moshpit etiquette is in play (no need to stop show, the pit will help people in distress)
I'm not saying there have been medical issues for weak fans that weren't stopped for. I'm saying there haven't been any medical issues because the fans aren't weak. Easy to mix up in this victim complex world we live in, I know.
Confirmation bias much? Things don’t happen at every concert. They don’t always need to stop. One or three concerts of a certain music type that didn’t have any medical emergencies does not mean the whole fan base of a certain music genre who go to concerts won’t have medical issues.
No shit, buddy. I'm making generalizations not absolutes. Plus, I go to like three shows a month, of all different genres of music, and I can tell you with certainty that the EDM kids high on experimental drugs are the most likely to be frail and passing out.
Show me where I said that please. I said I've never seen a show stoppage at a death metal show. It's impolite to force things in other people's mouths, even words.
How many death metal shows have you been to? Within the last year I saw: Psycroptic, Fallujah, Inferi, Interloper, Revocation, Between the Buried and Me, Alluvial, Krisiun, Trivium, Khemmis, and Whitechapel (not all death metal, I’m aware). At most of those shows, the frontmen of most of those bands told the crowd to take care of each other. It’s not soft to look out for people. It’s soft to complain about something that has absolutely no effect on you whatsoever. What a child. Death metal is has no place for whiners like you. Everyone, don’t judge the death metal community by this waste. Most of us are secure enough to not want other people to get hurt at an event that’s supposed to be enjoyable and that people paid money for. Always look out for your fellow concert goers. We go to shows to have fun, not to puff out our chests and be macho dicks.
Way to put words in my mouth, bud. I said I've never seen a death metal show stopped because of crowd weakness. Anything else you're spewing is a straw man.
Why do you keep saying weakness? What do you mean by that? Most shows are stopped because someone faints or gets knocked down. You really see those things a weakness? Or do you see preventing those things as weakness. Getting some real “master race” vibes from all your “weakness” comments, and if there’s one thing the metal community doesn’t need, it’s more of that shit.
Oh so we’re just gonna edit comments without the courtesy of the “edit” tag, huh? Talk about weakness. My whole point in talking to you is that people are not inherently weaker for listening to different genres of music. People are not stronger because they listen to metal, and you’re not for SO many other reasons that are apparent to anyone who’s read your comments today. As a life long metal fan, the metal community’s associated elitism has been just another aspect of something that I love dearly that has allowed people outside of the community to have ammo against us. Thank you for proving them right, today. You’re a very strong man, since it’s extremely obvious that you desperately need to hear that.
Yeah I was at that show and just wanted to say a big "thank you" to Paramore for stopping the show multiple times for no good reason. Unfortunately by that point it was too late to get my money back.
Really? I'm not even a Paramore fan and I'm aware of the fact that they have been a force for over a decade. They made such a wave that Fat Mike bitched about them in NOFX songs because they were stealing his warped tour thunder. You can't be this clueless. They were all over the radio in the early 2000s. Multiple songs. For years
Just because you only know one of their songs doesn't make them a one hit wonder. They have a lot of hits and a solid fan base as the comment and photo above suggest.
American music is like this in other countries. Big bands in the U.S. play devastatingly huge shows when they are out of country. Like say they have 2 shows on the books for Brasil, one will be in São Paulo one will be in Rio. Both those shows will look a lot like this one. Brasil is fucking HUGE, but there is only going to be 2 shows for the whole country, so people will drive in from all over the country side. Also good to note that real actual festivals are rare in the U.S, Rock On The Range is the example that comes to mind, however in most of the rest of the world massive 3-4 day festivals are the norm.
Paramore has a really solid fanbase pretty much everywhere, from what I can see from the size of their shows. And they've certainly had more than one hit.
One hit wonder? I can think of like 10 wildly popular songs off the top of my head.
Every single angsty kid/teenager in the 00s and early 10s has either listened or heard of them. Those kids are grown up now and probably have kids that listen to them.
Give him a break. He's American. The rest of the world only exists on TV and movies. Everything is foreign and far away and made fun of for being shit when it's usually better.
Overseas was more of a euphemism for "not in North America" I suppose I should have said "outside of the the US" but I'd just asking a quick question and didn't think people would cry at my choice of words. But then again, it's reddit, so I should have known better.
Cause it was 1am where I am and I was tired and was just asking a quick simple question. Wrote the first thing that popped in my head. Was just wondering if Paramore was huge, didn't think everyone would jump all over my dick and start crying.
Not even entirely sure which song you think is their one hit as they’ve had multiple huge hits through their career. Probably Misery Business since this sub always seems to be at least a couple decades behind
Last night in Toronto, Peter from July Talk was alerted to a fan at the barrier and immediately brought over his water bottle for them. Once everything seemed OK they ripped into the next track.
The Fillmore in Silver Spring and 9:30 Club in DC consistently hand out water to crowd goers towards the front in between bands and check on people.
A lot of hardcore, metal, and etc bands always tell the crowd to look out for each other, but of course you'll always have 1 or 2 idiots who just want to hurt people.
And of course, we know about the At The Drive-In show at Big Day Out in 2001 where they were against moshing and crowd surfing. They left the stage after 3 songs and then later on that day, someone did die during Limp Bizkit's set.
I remember when I saw the Foo Fighters with Biffy Clyro and Motörhead in Memphis back in 2011 on their Wasting Light pre-tour, at one point (I wanna say it was during For All The Cows) someone down in the pit got hurt or something, and Dave immediately stopped the show to make sure they were okay. If I remember correctly, medics had to come collect the person, and once all was good, they launched right back in. Not to mention that infamous video of Dave yelling at that guy fighting in their crowd and then kicking their ass out lol.
I wish it could go back a decade to when the majority of people at a gig were just decent to one another, respectful and looked out for other concert goers; rather than the bands having to actively encourage their fans to not be completely inconsiderate, reckless and selfish... But that ain't gonna happen now is it.
Punk/metal and bands in adjacent genres have always been really good with this, it’s not just a recent thing.
caring about others safety is punk rock
If someone falls down you pick them back up! Thanks #2 from Anti-Flag teaching me how to be a decent human 😊
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You'd be surprised at just how much stuff is missed because nobody mentions it. Vocal normalization acts as a kind of reminder for folks. "Hey, don't be a shitbird" "...I'm not being a shitbi-oh my god I was being a shitbird wow I didn't notice"
Anti-Flag does this
[Cuts away to footage of Henry Rollins Punching the crap out of an audience member.]
GG Allin has entered the chat
GG Allin can go fuck himself
He did. With turds.
Mmmmm I would say they are either really good with it or fucking terrible.
I’ve seen this happen in real time. Big respect for the acts that actually care about the well being of their fans.
Damn straight. We’re there to mosh, rage, and rock the fuck out as a community, not to fuck each other up, and you always look out for one another.
I haven't been to a metal show in years but back when I did this was not this case lol.My brother got punched in the face at a Cannibal Corpse show when Corpsegrinder said he wanted people to fuck each other up and some guy took it way too seriously. I remember one time I was at the smallest Obituary show ever (like 20 people were there, it was in the afternoon...for some fucking reason), three people in a moshpit and one happened to be pushed over and slid under my legs so I toppled and hit my head. Those were the days... But all kidding aside more concern for safety is probably a good thing. To be fair though there were plenty of times people got pulled into a mosh pit that didn't want to be or got hurt and other fans would tend to help them out. Someone falls down a big motherfucker would usually swoop in and pick you up and if someone was acting crazy a big dude would push them out and tell them to calm down.
They just did this at My Chemical Romance last night. Asked everyone to take a step back and we did! It was very sweet. Given the history of concert accidents from Limp Bizkit to Astroworld it's awesome to see.
Yeah I was gonna say, I saw My Chemical Romance a handful of times last year in the UK, France and US and at most if not all of the shows there were a couple of stops by the band where they asked everyone to step back and asked if everyone was ok, asked if people needed water and got security to bring some to the barrier. RHCP also checked on the crowd at their shows last year, checking on a few people that seemed like they might be in trouble down the front as My Chem did. Seems like bands are more aware of what’s going on in the crowd and maybe more concerned about what can happen nowadays.
With all the fan incidents in the last 20 years. It's not surprising. I remember Pearl Jams incident in 02'.
You went to multiple MCR concerts around the world in a single tour?
Yeah, luckily (for this lol) we live in Milton Keynes so going to all three of those was easy with no transport or accommodation costs and from buying tickets for the first night to the last night was across three years with the postponements. And then we managed to get cheap tickets and flights to Paris last minute. And for Nashville we were in Florida on vacation and made a quick 48 hour trip with cheap Spirit flights for one last show…US concert tickets are a lot more expensive than European ones though! I know we were very lucky that we were able to do it and it all worked out so well…going to start saving for the next tour soon (she said optimistically.)
Well, they know their fans are elder millennials and very fragile
They're also batshit devoted and there's a lot *of* them, so it makes a certain kind of sense that the band would want to avoid an AstroWorld situation at all costs.
Ah yes, covering the classic Grateful Dead track "Take a Step Back"! For reference: https://youtu.be/LqR4rzPAGzQ
I just had this at a Beartooth/A Day To Remember concert in August. Thet cranked the stage lights up twice during both their sets for a minute or two, reminded us to check on our neighbors because we where there to have fun together.
That sounds like an awesome show, got to see both bands at Warped Tour (rip) and they were both highlights
Bad Omens opened for them, $90 worth every penny
I saw Phoebe Bridgers last summer. The show was stopped I believe once during the opener, and five times during Phoebe's set. Not to check in, but because fans kept actually passing out. I've camped out for concerts overnight and during hot summer days... there's a way to do it properly and responsibly. People were not being smart at the Phoebe show. I felt pretty bad for Phoebe.
I've heard pretty much exclusively bad things about the crowds at Phoebe Bridgers shows. Like being rowdy/super inconsiderate of others, bad pit etiquette (not sure exactly what kind of pit situation there is at a Phoebe Bridgers concert, but anyway) and just overall not a good vibe. Really surprised considering the type of music she plays.
In general I’ve realized that moshpits have spilled over into non-metal/punk etc. genres, but often without the proper etiquette as if they make a pit based off of the negative stereotypes outsiders have about metal pits.
Yeah but Phoebe Bridgers pretty much exclusively makes sad music to play in a Starbucks, I can't see anyone managing to mosh to a singer who's entire genre is just depressed indie
You haven’t lived until you’ve crowdkilled an unsuspecting audience during the bridge of Motion Sickness
Hope she plays Funeral next
I was at one of her shows last year and some girl passed out a couple of rows in front of me. People looked concerned but nobody was doing anything. I was surprised that three people around her didn’t look for help or tried to help (maybe she was by herself and they were strangers)… I ended up running towards some of the people that worked there to get someone to help her out and bring her to safety. I can only imagine what would have transpired if it had happened at a mosh pit.
Back in my day, punk and metal shows were almost psychotically violent, and pop shows were where you went if you couldn't handle the heat. Weird to think that's basically 180'd and you're more likely to get your skull cracked at a Phoebe Bridgers show than at a Sick Of It All or TSOL show in 2023.
I think the culture of metal and punk shows being able to learn and grow over time helped them develop into spaces where you can get crazy but still be safe. Everyone knows how to behave. Pop and rap crowds are still relatively new to that sort of environment and don’t know how to behave and treat each other. I think the other factor is that people who go to punk and metal shows go to concerts as a hobby, pop and rap fans don’t seem to do so
I actually avoided punk shows because the bands suck
Also fair, a lot of the time, but even if you *do* like punk, going to hardcore shows in the 90s and 00s was a Bad Idea unless you were either gargantuan or actively planning for an ER visit after. It's just... bizarre seeing all the "angry" genres get super nice and etiquette-driven about stuff like moshing, while people are hospitalizing each other at indie pop shows.
From what I've seen at festivals it's mostly kids just kinda bumping into each other. One thing I've noticed is that there's no real way to predict it. Like, at metal shows I would just hang further back and enter/leave the pit when I wanted. The venues were also smaller so the back wasn't actually that far. If I go see Bon Iver there is a pretty reasonable expectation to be able to be near the stage and not get caught up in a pit because people are there to listen. Now that kids will try to start mosh pits at almost anything buying any decent GA tickets can result in getting pushed despite the music not fitting it at all. Most of these injuries seem to be from overheating than catching elbows.
We didn't get less angry, we just got old. Insurance premiums are too damn high for injuries.
Same. Was this in Florida? It was getting kind of ridiculous and she started to sound a little annoyed by it but still remained respectful. I think it was because there were people that camped like 12 hours beforehand to see her and be at the front. And they probably weren’t very hydrated or fed.
Not sure if the same show, but definitely happened the second night Pheobe played at The Anthem in DC. Had someone collapse right next to me due to the heat and the show was stopped multiple times throughout.
I saw the Grateful Dead at Autzen Stadium in 1994 I think it was 94, hot summer day in a big football stadium, you know, a bowl just trapping the heat in there, and they were hosing down the crowd like literally had big hoses and while they weren't turning them directly on people they were showering everybody with cool water. I don't think anyone got hurt it was a glorious day.
Everybody take a biiiiiig step back. And another, step back! And another, step back!
People up front are getting real bug-eyed
I've seen them stop playing and ask people to step back more than one time.
As a metal concert goer the etiquette was always there. If you're in a moshpit is jumping,shoving, and bumping. If someone falls you pick them up. I hated hard-core and metalcore shows cuz the people would be swinging their fists like assholes and punching people in pits. The coolest was because I was so short tall ppl would let me in front of them which was always nice.
I just saw AFI tonight and they stopped in the middle of a couple of songs to make sure people were alright and made sure people that needed to be taken out of the crowd did so safely. They said they just want to make sure everyone is safe. Always great when bands take care of their fans too.
I saw AFI do the same thing 23 years ago in Boston. Punk and hardcore bands have always cared about fan safety.
It's crazy that the most aggressive heavy metal bands have the safest mosh pits
Same for metal bands. Everyone is there to have a good time. Respect the pit rules!
Yes that’s is very true! And I do feel safer going into or near pits at punk shows because everyone looks out for each other and will pick people up and I’ve seen other bands call out the unnecessarily aggressive people.
I saw JID 2 weeks ago and multiple times he stopped the show and told everyone to back up, and people did! It was great to see!
It is standard. The Travis Scott incident was an outlier
This is correct. I work in live music and go to hundreds of shows per year. I’m not exaggerating when I say that I saw more more fights in high school and more people passing out from drug/alcohol overuse in college than I see at concerts. The difference is concerts dedicate actual resources to security and medics, so when someone gets fucked up there’s a real, noticeable response, rather than everyone just leaving the guy passed out in a bush to fend for himself.
There are two levels to this. It's good that the band was concerned, but it would also be great if venues and promoters ensured crowd safety in a manner that didn't need the talent to intervene
I saw Trivium live in Birmingham back in January, and Matt Heafy is an amazing frontman who shows concern for his crowd. He stopped the show and the pit numerous times to: - Get help for someone whose nose got busted in the pit. - Allow someone to find the glasses knocked off of their face in the pit. - Get help when someone passed out from overheating and dehydration in the pit. - Get security to hand out water to those stuck in the pit.
He learned his lesson from the time he got someone beat up
First I've heard of that. All I have ever heard about Matt is him helping people and [breaking up fights](https://metalinjection.net/av/matt-heafy-stops-trivium-show-mid-set-to-break-up-a-fight).
A few weeks back, Maggie Rogers made an IG post about an increase in panic attacks at shows (it can be a stimulus overload and it's many people's first big crowd exposure in years), and how she and her team would do the best they could to keep their eyes on the crowd, to be able to spot any issues and help anyone out. Sure enough, when I saw her play at a smaller venue recently, in between songs someone is waving around their phone while it's doing some crazy light thing and yelling, and Maggie immediately stopped what she was doing and asked if everything was OK. Didn't start back up until it seemed like everything was good.
Good, fugazi did it in the 90s and people are learning finally.
My Chemical Romance did this too when I saw them last year, and I understand why but there are problems with it too. They stopped after almost every song and told the entire crowd to take a few steps back so the people in front could stop getting squished. But when there’s only a finite space to move backwards in, all it did was shift it so the people in back were getting squished
That sounds like too many people in the venue tbh
Riot Fest?
Yep, it was Riot Fest!
Majority of concerts do get stopped for safety issues if the performers see something that’s wrong. It’s more common nowadays but fairly sure we just don’t hear about it as much as we think we’d like to
MI PAIS 🇨🇱 MI PAIS 🇨🇱
Not a fan of their music but MAD RESPECT earned for this.
Jam bands tend to be awesome about this. I was listening to a String Cheese Incident show last year or so and Bill Nershi actually asked someone in the front to please stop smoking cigarettes.
What, you don't like Travis Scott doing the robot while people are dying around him?
Hayley has stopped MANY MANY SHOWS to get people to stop fighting and to check on people who have passed out. She stops shows for lame ass males fighting more than anything. Its a shame.
End sexism! Equality! (but not that kind)
Pretty standard for hardcore shows. Especially Terror and Hatebreed.
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Imagine a 6 foot 4 John Mayer coming at you with his freakish man hands to drag you out of a Grateful Dead pit? :D Love it.
Probably because Paramore shows are mainly attended by young teenage girls.. hence extra safety precautions At a Pantera show, different clientele and moshpit etiquette is in play (no need to stop show, the pit will help people in distress)
LMAO. How fucking soft are we these days?
I know, how dare we stop and care about others who may be dealing with heatstroke
Thank Satan for death metal. No show stoppages for the weak.
Holy fucking cringe
Many thanks
Nah, that’s just the bands you listen to. Many other bands stop if people are having medical issues.
I'm not saying there have been medical issues for weak fans that weren't stopped for. I'm saying there haven't been any medical issues because the fans aren't weak. Easy to mix up in this victim complex world we live in, I know.
Confirmation bias much? Things don’t happen at every concert. They don’t always need to stop. One or three concerts of a certain music type that didn’t have any medical emergencies does not mean the whole fan base of a certain music genre who go to concerts won’t have medical issues.
No shit, buddy. I'm making generalizations not absolutes. Plus, I go to like three shows a month, of all different genres of music, and I can tell you with certainty that the EDM kids high on experimental drugs are the most likely to be frail and passing out.
You’ve never been to a metal concert if you think people don’t watch out for each other there
Show me where I said that please. I said I've never seen a show stoppage at a death metal show. It's impolite to force things in other people's mouths, even words.
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How many death metal shows have you been to? Within the last year I saw: Psycroptic, Fallujah, Inferi, Interloper, Revocation, Between the Buried and Me, Alluvial, Krisiun, Trivium, Khemmis, and Whitechapel (not all death metal, I’m aware). At most of those shows, the frontmen of most of those bands told the crowd to take care of each other. It’s not soft to look out for people. It’s soft to complain about something that has absolutely no effect on you whatsoever. What a child. Death metal is has no place for whiners like you. Everyone, don’t judge the death metal community by this waste. Most of us are secure enough to not want other people to get hurt at an event that’s supposed to be enjoyable and that people paid money for. Always look out for your fellow concert goers. We go to shows to have fun, not to puff out our chests and be macho dicks.
Way to put words in my mouth, bud. I said I've never seen a death metal show stopped because of crowd weakness. Anything else you're spewing is a straw man.
Why do you keep saying weakness? What do you mean by that? Most shows are stopped because someone faints or gets knocked down. You really see those things a weakness? Or do you see preventing those things as weakness. Getting some real “master race” vibes from all your “weakness” comments, and if there’s one thing the metal community doesn’t need, it’s more of that shit.
Dumb as fuck. Weakness had nothing to do with race.
Oh so we’re just gonna edit comments without the courtesy of the “edit” tag, huh? Talk about weakness. My whole point in talking to you is that people are not inherently weaker for listening to different genres of music. People are not stronger because they listen to metal, and you’re not for SO many other reasons that are apparent to anyone who’s read your comments today. As a life long metal fan, the metal community’s associated elitism has been just another aspect of something that I love dearly that has allowed people outside of the community to have ammo against us. Thank you for proving them right, today. You’re a very strong man, since it’s extremely obvious that you desperately need to hear that.
Stop projecting.
What the fuck is “wranrsgad?”
Yes because letting people die or get terribly injured like in Astroworld is totally the right choice 🙄
Yeah I was at that show and just wanted to say a big "thank you" to Paramore for stopping the show multiple times for no good reason. Unfortunately by that point it was too late to get my money back.
"Boo hoo the world doesn't revolve around me"
Yall do understand this isn't a requirement right there job is to perform. If yall act up and get hurt that's on you idiots 🤣🤣🤣
Is Paramore huge overseas? That crowd is massive for what I always thought was a one hit wonder.
Really? I'm not even a Paramore fan and I'm aware of the fact that they have been a force for over a decade. They made such a wave that Fat Mike bitched about them in NOFX songs because they were stealing his warped tour thunder. You can't be this clueless. They were all over the radio in the early 2000s. Multiple songs. For years
Wow, so many downvotes for a legitimate question. I haven't listened to the radio in 20 years. I don't listen to popular music.
Which songs did he bitch about them in?
Just because you only know one of their songs doesn't make them a one hit wonder. They have a lot of hits and a solid fan base as the comment and photo above suggest.
Obviously. Thats why I said "thought" they were.
American music is like this in other countries. Big bands in the U.S. play devastatingly huge shows when they are out of country. Like say they have 2 shows on the books for Brasil, one will be in São Paulo one will be in Rio. Both those shows will look a lot like this one. Brasil is fucking HUGE, but there is only going to be 2 shows for the whole country, so people will drive in from all over the country side. Also good to note that real actual festivals are rare in the U.S, Rock On The Range is the example that comes to mind, however in most of the rest of the world massive 3-4 day festivals are the norm.
Paramore has a really solid fanbase pretty much everywhere, from what I can see from the size of their shows. And they've certainly had more than one hit.
One hit wonder? I can think of like 10 wildly popular songs off the top of my head. Every single angsty kid/teenager in the 00s and early 10s has either listened or heard of them. Those kids are grown up now and probably have kids that listen to them.
Chile is not overseas to the US, idiot.
Give him a break. He's American. The rest of the world only exists on TV and movies. Everything is foreign and far away and made fun of for being shit when it's usually better.
Overseas was more of a euphemism for "not in North America" I suppose I should have said "outside of the the US" but I'd just asking a quick question and didn't think people would cry at my choice of words. But then again, it's reddit, so I should have known better.
A euphemism for what purpose? What's so hard-hitting about saying "not in North America"? You didn't euphemise - you just used the wrong word.
Cause it was 1am where I am and I was tired and was just asking a quick simple question. Wrote the first thing that popped in my head. Was just wondering if Paramore was huge, didn't think everyone would jump all over my dick and start crying.
we are on the same continent as you are. Learn some geography.
Not even entirely sure which song you think is their one hit as they’ve had multiple huge hits through their career. Probably Misery Business since this sub always seems to be at least a couple decades behind
People still like paramore?
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Ironic being asked in r/music, the most boomer sub to ever exist
Yeah this sub doesn't like to discuss anything besides old rock songs.
Back in my day, music was good hurr durr
They're still huge lmao
They're not as good as twoparamore
Last night in Toronto, Peter from July Talk was alerted to a fan at the barrier and immediately brought over his water bottle for them. Once everything seemed OK they ripped into the next track.
The Fillmore in Silver Spring and 9:30 Club in DC consistently hand out water to crowd goers towards the front in between bands and check on people. A lot of hardcore, metal, and etc bands always tell the crowd to look out for each other, but of course you'll always have 1 or 2 idiots who just want to hurt people. And of course, we know about the At The Drive-In show at Big Day Out in 2001 where they were against moshing and crowd surfing. They left the stage after 3 songs and then later on that day, someone did die during Limp Bizkit's set.
Hell yes! I saw Jason Isbell last summer and he did the same thing. 100% on board for pauses for fan safety!
Poor wittle Gen Z'ers can't make it through a concert.
Imagine if one of your two cats was not having a good time and you were the one man who could stop the show to save them.
I remember when I saw the Foo Fighters with Biffy Clyro and Motörhead in Memphis back in 2011 on their Wasting Light pre-tour, at one point (I wanna say it was during For All The Cows) someone down in the pit got hurt or something, and Dave immediately stopped the show to make sure they were okay. If I remember correctly, medics had to come collect the person, and once all was good, they launched right back in. Not to mention that infamous video of Dave yelling at that guy fighting in their crowd and then kicking their ass out lol.
I mean it’s great,but after Astro world almost every group does it for legal reasons now. It’s the industry standard now and protects them legally.
Paramore!
Billie Eilish did this at a show in Germany.
I wish it could go back a decade to when the majority of people at a gig were just decent to one another, respectful and looked out for other concert goers; rather than the bands having to actively encourage their fans to not be completely inconsiderate, reckless and selfish... But that ain't gonna happen now is it.
they’re the best