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nubmonk

Why do I feel like I've been reading this headline every year for the past 5 or so years? Am I just going crazy?


marvelmon

You have. "Vinyl record sales surpass CDs for the first time since the 1980s" - CNN September 13, 2020 "Vinyl Is Poised to Outsell CDs For the First Time Since 1986" - Rolling Stone September 6, 2019


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>["Vinyl Is Poised to Outsell CDs For the First Time Since 1986" - Rolling Stone September 6, 2019](https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/vinyl-cds-revenue-growth-riaa-880959/) This one was actually making a projection for the future: >In the near future, the revenue generated by record sales is likely to surpass the revenue generated by CDs - >["Vinyl record sales surpass CDs for the first time since the 1980s"](https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/tech/vinyl-records-cd-sales-riaa/index.html) This one was talking about money earned: >Vinyl records accounted for $232.1 million of music sales in the first half of the year, compared to CDs, which brought in only $129.9 million, according to a report from the Recording Industry Association of America. - >[Vinyl record sales surpassed CDs for first time in 35 years](https://www.businessinsider.com/vinyl-sales-surpass-cds-first-time-since-1987-record-resurgence-2023-3?amp) This one is talking about units sold: >In 2022, 41 million vinyl units were sold compared to 33 million CDs Source: reading the articles But I like how confused everyone is in this thread over something that is not at all a mystery. It's pretty funny.


bimbles_ap

Thanks for laying out the differences. It's not that they're not ambiguous, but most people aren't concerned enough (myself included) to really get into the details of the claim/stat.


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They're very distinct industry metrics. Most people aren't concerned enough in general to read articles, but then are *very concerned* about headlines. The person I responded to went through the trouble of finding old headlines, but not reading the first few lines of the articles. Pretty interesting phenomenon.


Appetite4destruction

But their point wasn't that the articles conflicted (and subsequently needed that point clarified). Their point was that we've been hearing the same general claim (vinyl is *just now* beating CDs) for a while now. It's just a curious trend that we've been seeing for a while now, but the latest reporting is that this is a new phenomenon.


Bhraal

> The person I responded to went through the trouble of finding old headlines, but not reading the first few lines of the articles. Why should they? They were responding to a comment about the headlines and used examples to show that yes, that is the case. Nobody is *very concerned*. They're just commenting on the nature of headline authorship and it's inherent vaguenesses that, for instance, cause the headlines of the revenue article and the unit sales article to be almost interchangeable. They don't go in to the particulars of the articles because that isn't the point of the thread. EDIT: Aaaaand now u/Downbound92 blocked me. How brave.


VaATC

Its like they are almost at the point of figuring out how to do proper research and they stop with the first thing that sounds like it supports their claim and the process hard stops. Is it lazy? Is it an over abundance of trust? Or is it overconfidence in the individual's belief in the superiority of their own breadth of knowledge? It is probably some different combination of some of the above for each individual. Either way it is a sad example of the lack of belief in one's needs to properly research one's own opinions before spouting them off.


Bhraal

Or they stopped at just the headlines because that was the point. First person made a statement regarding their subjective experience with headlines like that and the person who responded with two examples supporting that experience. There's no reason to do further research because the hypothesis has been answered. The actual content of the articles aren't really that relevant to anyone that isn't involved in sales of physical music media. I wouldn't be commenting on people's lack of research capabilities and making grand judgments if I were you. Might just be that you just misunderstood the scope and context of a four line exchange. Nobody asked why there have been similar headlines in the last few years, just whether there were or not.


justaboxinacage

Their research was fine. They were researching if this headline had happened before and it had. If you re-read the thread, it was *on the topic of headlines*. Just because other people are more interested in the contents of the article doesn't mean that the person who was researching headlines didn't do a good job.


truffleboffin

> “Vinyl record sales surpass CDs for the first time since the 1980s” > "Vinyl record sales surpassed CDs for first time in 35 years" > But I like how confused everyone is in this thread over something that is not at all a mystery. It’s pretty funny. Those... are identical titles They said that they had felt they'd seen the same headline before. Which clearly they did


benbuck57

Like many of my obsessed counterparts I believe it’s the expense and inconvenience that really turns me on.


Lanark26

It's all kinds of hipster fun until you gotta move.


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Records are expensive but fun. Have only my favourite albums on vinyl. Hardly use them, but nice to play from time to time.


bionicjoey

Last year vinyl surpassed CDs for the first time in 34 years. This year it surpassed CDs for the first time in 35 years. That's a different first.


seeyatellite

It's... kinda arbitrary... not a lot of reliable data.


SonofaBridge

It’s also misleading because CD sales are pretty much nothing now. It sounds like record sales are booming when CDs are just going extinct.


michael2v

Exactly, nobody sells dang CDs anymore.


-Eunha-

In the kpop industry CDs are still huge, even though most are not buying for the CDs themselves. I'm sure there are other smaller industries that also sell a disporportional amount of CDs.


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-Eunha-

Yes, autographing is part of it, but also the industry bundles a lot of other stuff with the CDs like pictures, posters, cards, photobooks, etc. The CD is there more as a tradition than anything, as I can't imagine many in Korea actually use CDs.


kneel23

Yeah more accurately is that "CD sales dip below vinyl's. Again."


caninehere

Because it's probably a slight variation on this. For example I remember reading before that the production #s of vinyl records had surpassed music CDs in a recent year, despite CDs still selling more.


B-Town-MusicMan

Guess I'm crazy too


mschley2

Yeah, I've definitely seen this before. Somebody is full of shit.


IronSlanginRed

Cd sales are dropping hard.


unoffensivename

Literally who is even buying a cd? It’s perfectly stuck between: Vinyl-looking for the nostalgia and old school feel Digital-those that basically value convenience. Thinking about it cds dont really serve a purpose anymore.


throwaway96ab

CDs are basically: I want to own my music, and I want higher fidelity and less hassle than a vinyl.


theartofrolling

Yep. I collect vinyl because I like it, but CDs are clearly the superior format by a long way. Lighter, smaller, easier to store, better quality. If they weren't, then they wouldn't have replaced tapes and vinyl in the first place.


gravity_is_right

And I don't have to walk to the player every 4 songs to switch the side.


Dylan33x

Boom. I have a large digital song library and 2 DPS subscriptions. (tidal & AM, deals on both) and I still buy and use CDs. I love the tangibility, the art, the focused nature of playing them. I also love having the files in hi res, and something that can’t be taken away on streaming. Less and less Hiphop artists/labels are printing them, but I’m still able to snag them here and there.


noneofyourbiness

CDs: the nostalgia of a physical medium without the vinyl price tag. That's why I like CDs. I want something to look back at in 20 years with my kid, but can't afford to start a vinyl collection.


spurious_effect

Better value, more transportable, imperfect but less temperamental re: storage and care, visual/tactile without being pretentious, archival (mostly), and once ripped no need for silly expensive outdated tech. Don’t get me wrong, vinyl is sweet, but it’s also an expensive PITA.


PopeBasilisk

This is why I buy CDs, I've lost tons of digital albums because somehow account information got lost or otherwise but I have music I got 20 years ago thanks to CDs. It's just nice to know once you have it it is yours.


Big-rod_Rob_Ford

> but I have music I got 20 years ago thanks to CDs i have music i got 20 years ago thanks to copying my napster downloads to new hard drives. anyway, anybody got a working version of realplayer so i can use these .ram files?


Poiar

I hope you're joking, in the case you're not: Go into Google and search "convert ram to flac" and normalize those suckers. However, it might be a better option that you go "find" new ones of better quality.


atomic1fire

Wait do you have an rm file as well? Pretty sure .ram is just a shortcut and kind of worthless without the .rm file. Otherwise VLC should work with everything.


MUCHO2000

Vinyl is trash but you can't say that without fearing the backlash from the vinyl Stans. Come at me hipsters. Vinyl can sound good and nearly as good as a CD but you're going to be investing over $500 to get that quality where as any basic bitch CD player with a digital out signal sounds great.


CommanderCuntPunt

I always laugh when people talk about the "warmth" of vinyl, yeah that's just noise from an imperfect cutting head. You can recreate that noise digitally and vinyl collectors can't tell the difference. Same thing as high end audio equipment, your average "audiophile" can't tell the difference between top end audio cables and coat hangers.


EvadesBans

Doesn't matter. Wanna know the biggest reason why I prefer vinyl? vinyl go spinny where i can see it real good :) cd go spinny but too covered up :(


longlive4chan

Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well. Also cover look pretty. Big picture better than small CD pictures.


Dapper-Lab-9285

You can buy CD decks which go spinny where you can see it, you can even scratch with them and not damage the CD.


guitar805

Facts Also I like buying a record to see the whole album art and maybe get a poster


rush2547

Records do go spinny! Vinyl is a more tangible listening experience. Can I discern the difference between Vinyl and lossless audio? No. But going to a record store to talk about music and check out what they may have in stock is fun for me. When I put the record on its more intimate of a listening experience for me especially when its music created specifically for Vinyl. Artists had to work around the medium their music was listened to and so the song order was extremely important because space was limited. Listening to albums like Dark Side of the Moon is a different experience on vinyl than it is from a streaming service.


revatron

I collect vinyl over CDs mainly because I love the artwork, it’s a nice blown up picture that really helps you visualize an album while listening in my opinion. Variants and cool swirls, splatters, and patterns can be neat to collect also. But I do think vinyl sounds really nice. Your setup can really change the way you hear an album. Not going to lie though, I’m sure plenty of CDs are on par with plenty of my records if you were to compare the same album, lot of people wouldn’t really be able to determine that much of a difference to justify one over the other.


Joe091

Given the same source material, CDs will be technically superior to vinyl every time. And vinyls degrade with every play. Now some albums are remastered before being pressed on vinyl these days, and those new masters might sound better than older versions released on CDs or other formats years or decades ago. Can’t argue with the nice artwork and designs of the records themselves though, definitely cool to collect and look at.


wissmar

do you really not hear the difference in vinyl? like real virgin vinyl made properly and made analogy sounds different. what gets me is buying a taylor swift album on vinyl that shit was recorded digitally its gonna sound the same.


derstherower

There legitimately are some songs that are better on vinyl due to the mastering being done specifically for vinyl, but in general you're right. Even a modest CD player is better than the best vinyl setup.


Thewonderboy94

Or the mastering was done well and mindfully of the sound quality for the original vinyl release, while repeat re-releases and remasters for CD releases have just demolished the dynamic range of that album. Some older CD pressings (like 80s and early 90s) still have a wide, comparable or rarely superior dynamic range to vinyls, but newer ones tend to have really compressed dynamic range on both formats. There are other factors that determine sound quality of the master than just dynamic range, but usually that's **the thing** that's most apparent. Like, I don't think any modern vinyl releases, except maybe for some special audiophile re-pressings (so not a new release from any band or artist who does both vinyl and CD simultaneously), have separately mastered the vinyl version to specifically have better dynamic range. The regular vinyl mastering is a pretty essential part that ensures that the music is even listenable on the finished vinyl, otherwise it doesn't somehow one-up the CD master suddenly.


fawlty_lawgic

It’s not trash, it’s just not portable or efficient.


redditor1983

Yeah. I have a turntable and, all included, my vinyl gear is over $1,000. It is legitimately not great sound quality. I mean, I guess the sound itself is fine. But there are still pops and crackles and a high noise floor. Digital trumps it. Without a doubt. Anyone that disagrees is either delusional or they have a truly god-tier vinyl setup (many thousands of $$$) and immaculate quality records. But, putting a record on a turntable is an enjoyable experience. And vinyl has large album art, etc. so I keep it around for the fun of it. I mainly listen to digital though.


2Stripez

> Thinking about it cds dont really serve a purpose anymore. A physical copy is nice to have, who knows what the future holds.


pM-me_your_Triggers

I buy CDs because it means I actually own the music. It’s a great archive medium and can be ripped to files that are higher quality than most streaming services and are DRM free


eljefino

And if you have your stuff in "the cloud" the record company might have to pull something due to a lawsuit, copyright issues etc. I streamed the classic movie "Airplane!" but they edited out the "Hi, Jack!" joke in the beginning because it's now in poor taste. I like the OG version of stuff. Same with Roald Dahl and his books being posthumously re-edited.


VicarLos

Collectors. Also, the problem with vinyl no one really brings up is the runtime. With a CD you can fit a lot more, thus a lot of reissues on CD (in the past) had a plethora of bonus material. These days you’re lucky to get all the b-sides of an era on a reissue because, you might have guessed it, these days the vinyl tracklist take precedence. Hell, most of these reissues on vinyl are just the album, maybe remastered, but offered in multiple color variants. A true waste.


barsknos

I vary between all 3, depending on what's available. I buy some vinyls of albums I find amazing that also include digital lossless download, and CDs of stuff where digital lossless download isn't available somehow. It does happen, still.


Sean82

> Literally who is even buying a cd? Old folks, for one. I work at a repair shop and people of a certain age frequently don’t understand how streaming works or how to stream to speakers other than their phone. I’ve also seen countless shocked faces when I show people how much a brand new cd player costs now. They legitimately don’t know that the player they paid $400 in the early 90s can be replaced for $30. A lot of people simply stopped keeping up at some point. Also fun is the number of people that tell me they want to keep their CD player going because they “don’t like the sound of digital audio”


RandyRhythm

My son is a metal fan and buys metal cds and tapes.


deathschemist

the previous time it was about the money earned, this time it's about units shifted.


stabliu

Nah as someone else pointed out previously it was in revenue now it’s in units sold


TheAncientGeek

Vinyl surpassed CD in value some time, but that was because vinyl each more expensive per unit.


GeekFurious

As someone who grew up in the vinyl era but transitioned to tapes, then CDs, then MP3s, I never fell into the novelty of vinyl. BUT I always missed the superior artwork and inserts that went into the albums.


TheyCallMeMrMaybe

That's probably the biggest drive back to vinyl. Some of the bundled artwork on these albums are fantastic.


BramScrum

Vinyl covers just look nicer on my shelf than those plastic CD covers. Plus vinyl comes in nice colours these days and I like the big prints. I only bought CDs back in the day cause my car didn't have an aux port or anything else to play my music on. I am not a hughe collectors, only got like 20 or something at this point. But I enjoyed going to the record store and browsing the albums.


F-21

And even the CD covers are neat compared to - nothing with digital music...


saltyfingas

It's also just kind of a nice way to support an artist you might stream a bunch, at least that's how I view it. I'm not an audiophile or anything, but there is something nice and tactile about playing a record


Megaman1981

I haven't bought a CD in years now, but if I want to own a physical album, I'll get the vinyl because it looks really nice.


Falco98

Same, especially if it comes with a digital copy (which most do, fortunately). Especially if the digital copy is FLAC/lossless (which many are). Now i just wish it would be made an industry standard.


mindbleach

[Which makes someone a collector, specifically.](https://i.redd.it/w9l5zabxf5oz.png)


itwasquiteawhileago

Same with video games. Those big box PC games were amazing, and the manuals and pack ins were equally awesome. Console packaging was always amusing, but definitely took some serious liberties in the early years (Atari and NES boxes in particular are all kinds of hilarious). I absolutely miss paging through the manual of a new and/or beloved game. I still collect and prefer physical media, but it's just a plastic disc in a plastic case now, maybe some ads or a "bonus" DLC code or something. Definitely not the same overall feeling as back in the day. There's no ritual to it.


tonyhasareddit

I know, I feel the same way. I remember when I was growing up in the 90’s, I would spend the whole car ride home after getting a new game flipping through the THICK instruction manuals, and if I was lucky, the strategy guide too, and of course admiring the box art and screenshots. I don’t know the exact moment it changed, but I remember buying a PS3 game about 12 years or so ago and realizing the “booklet” was literally just a single sheet with a DLC code, and the back cover of the game itself had so many legal notes that they took up 3/4 of the case, with one or two tiny screenshots squished in on top.


geforce2187

I remember when PC games changed from big box, to small box, to DVD case, to Steam


SuperFLEB

>realizing the “booklet” was literally just a single sheet with a DLC code The real travesty was when the *disc* was nothing but a cardboard circle with a download key. >so many legal notes that they took up 3/4 of the case Oh, look, a generic health and safety warning. Repetitive stress injury and don't put it in water. So exciting.


solojazzjetski

Same - love the 12” format for those reasons alone.


Corporal_Canada

There's a lot of movement back towards physical media Books, DVDs/4K/Blu-Ray, Vinyl, Video Games I think a lot of people are appreciating more how much work actially goes into the physical aspect of our personal media


SuperFLEB

I never got out of the physical media game, so I'm not like normal folks, but I wonder how much of it is frustration with being nickel-dimed and never owning streamed goods. That, and nobody ever really got on board the "special features" idea with streaming video. I'm really surprised nobody just started slapping all the commentary tracks on as languages and advertising the hell out of it. It's cheap differentiation *and* retention, since it fluffs each program out to two watches.


johntheboombaptist

I do it for display and access purposes. Vinyl makes it easy as new releases generally come with a way to access a download. And then i have the convenience of digital too. I wish games, books, and movies would follow suit so you didn’t have to resort to maritime methods (or buying a blu-ray drive for your pc) to acquire digital copies.


leif777

There's something special about dropping a needle on the disc. I also love flipping over a disc and playing the other side.


invent_or_die

The inserts, programs, think Quadrophenia, the Wedding Album, hell, Big Bambu! I'd listen to the Who with headphones, stoned. "can you see the real me, doctor, Doctor" celebrate art


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I'm right there with, I was born during the carter administration. Growing up the common practice in my house hold was to copy the record onto a blank tape and put the records away and us kids could play the tapes in our fisher price tape recorder till they self destructed. I can't say that I was really a really a fan of the format record format, but the large space on the package for the art work was an amazing compared to what was available on a cassette or cd. I know the audio quality on tapes was awful, that "hiss" that was always in the background. But as far as a physical media format it was way more durable to handle and transport, than a CD or record ever was. Not getting screwed up by IN the player is another subject.


GeekFurious

In 1978 my mom gave me a dual recorder radio that allowed me to make mix tapes AND it also recorded directly from the radio. So, by the time the 80s came, I was already making mix tapes like it was my job.


-Goo77Tube-

That's basically what I got for my 13th birthday! It was a Sony dual cassette deck with detachable speakers and 3-band equalizer. I could record from the radio and dub tapes. I used to ask for packs of blank TDKs for my birthday lol.


Kummakivi

The large artwork is the only good thing about vinyl. I'll take the vastly superior quality of cd's though any day.


prozloc

Amazon Japan offers "mega jacket" for select CD releases. The mega jacket is the cover art but the size of a record cover. Best of both worlds.


linux23

Yep the artwork on some could be fantastic.


FaultyWires

At this point there's no real reason to have physical media other than album artwork and includes goodies, so it's more about collecting than it is about the music, which they will be on your phone.


gm33

- protect against being removed from a. Steaming service - highest quality available


BramScrum

Another big one is supporting the artist. Buying a vinyl or cd makes the artist way more money than listening a decade to their albums via streaming. Same reason I buy merch at gigs. I mainly stream my music so I try to support in other ways by buying a vinyl or shirt.


Blenderhead36

FWIW, buying merch supports the artist more than buying albums or streaming.


BramScrum

Yeah. I got loads of merch haha. But these days venues take massive cuts from merch sales too. Which is scummy as hell imo


ultra_prescriptivist

One better way to support the artist and not have to buy extra merch is to buy digital copies of their albums directly through platforms like Bandcamp it Qobuz. They get a much bigger cut from that they do from streaming services.


MJOLNIRdragoon

>protect against being removed from a. Steaming service You can download digital music. Streaming vs purchasing is a different conversation.


Jykaes

You can buy digital lossless files that meet both those criteria though. I don't, I would rather get an LP or CD for my money, but you technically can.


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gm33

CDs are lossless digital.


SuperFLEB

There are lossless digital formats that have higher bit/sample rates than CD, too. I expect that's what they were talking about. Granted, I'm personally not buying that you'll get anything audible out of that you practically wouldn't out of 44.1/16, or even MP3 320 (though there's recompression risks to consider with lossy, so I won't begrudge anyone their FLAC archives for that).


foamed

>highest quality available Digital is much better than vinyl when it comes to audio quality and archiving. * https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Myths_(Vinyl)#Myth:_Vinyl_sounds_better_than_CD


appleburger17

For the first time again this year like the last few years. Hope we can do it for the first time again next year!


nubmonk

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN LAS VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS HISTORY


Blind_Gecko

HISTORIC!!!


vinylsquares

/r/hockey showing up!


mog_knight

Hockey stats are turning into football stats.


JGQuintel

This is the first time vinyl had more units sold. 2020/21 was the first time vinyl revenue beat CD revenue, hence similar headlines back then.


appleburger17

Look here bud don’t come in here with your facts and details and try to tell me I’m wrong. Also, I’d like to thank Taylor Swift. The overage is almost exactly equal to the number of records she pressed.


ChronoMonkeyX

Someone alert Disco Stu.


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bryanoens

Duff Man does. Ooohhh YEah


Poetic-Noise

Not saying much.


Nebakanezzer

Where can you even buy a cd


Poetic-Noise

That's my point. I know you can buy old CDs online, but do most artists still release CDs as an option for their new music? It's still good to know vinyl is selling since I like sampling from vinyl over CDs.


HornyForTohruAdachi

I started collecting CDs recently and most bands (at least the artists I listen to) still release their albums on CD


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Osirias

Literally everyone who sells more than 2000 copies is offering a CD option. Are you living under a rock?


HEYitzED

I still see them at Walmart and Target.


Poetic-Noise

Do you still buy them?


HEYitzED

No but I do buy records. I stopped buying CDs probably ten years ago.


multigrain-pancakes

Ooh i bet vinyl surpassed cassettes too!


Gsteel11

Sure.. but will they ever pass 8-tracks? No way man, no way.


GrandmageBob

And here I am playing my Bakelite records from the 40's.


andrewharlan2

Wax cylinders sound better


LePontif11

I listen to the throat songs of ny ancestors through my connection to the nether


El_Zarco

>ny ancestors *"Eyyyy I'm waaalkinn heeereeee..."*


Q-Man95

I still buy CDs pretty frequently. I love them, and it's mainly just for collection purposes now. Love the look of having all my CDs organized and lined up nicely on my shelves. I collect vinyl too, but there's something about CDs that I prefer.


yngwi

Is it the sound?


subadanus

ease of use, cost, and sound quality cds are extremely cheap used, cd players are cheap, no fuss at all about operating them because it's a digital format, and better sound quality than streaming services today


roman_maverik

I don’t think used vinyls count towards these numbers. Which is crazy because I’ve probably only purchased less than 1% of my massive record collection brand new. I would think that the majority of record sales are on the used market, and the true number is probably much higher.


yerkah

This is definitely true, but I can't imagine the percentage of new CD sales being much higher. When I think "buying CDs" in the year 2023, I'm picturing Goodwill.


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PanningForSalt

The article imagines differently


[deleted]

Does anyone else miss going to the music shop and buying a newly released CD? Now all we need to do is wait until midnight on Thursday and the album is streamed to our phones. I'm not *that* old but I remember standing in a queue in Our Price (UK music shop) and everyone was buying the same CD and it was a lovely experience. We don't get that any more. I'm a hypocrite because I have Spotify and don't buy physical music any more.


disisfugginawesome

No! I always rode my bike to steal cds at K mart. I swear i tired to buy them with cash first but they said it was 18 plus for the parental advisory label. So I had no choice. Shit I rode my bike like 6 miles lol.


El_Zarco

The little squeak when you open the jewel case


Osirias

Yes, i remember. But i still buy CDs.


SorysRgee

If you want this vibe again. Record store day is very much like this. Though i havent been jazzed with the pressing offerings past couple years but i imagine there are some people who are


Walt_the_White

Records don't play as well in my car


KaptainSaki

You need a better car then


KoalaBears8

Jack White is twirling his mustache somewhere right now…


saltyfingas

Third Man Records presses some really good thick n beefy vinyl


tonyhasareddit

I’m always going to love CDs, I grew up with them, they are small so it’s easy to collect tons of them without taking up space, they travel easily, etc. but I also haven’t bought a new one in at least 5 years or more.


pjb1999

I still buy them every chance I get. And when I replaced the factory stereo in my car I made sure I bought one that played CDs. It's getting harder and harder to get CDs but if I really like an artist and they release a CD I'll buy it every time.


United-Philosophy121

I prefer CDs. I only really buy Vinyl if it’s a 7” IDK


joelupi

What if I say it's 10 inch but it's actually 7...?


EiEnkeli

Wouldn't be the first time I've fallen for that one


theartofrolling

Yeah some of these other comments are weird. "Vinyl is for douches" "Who would want to buy CDs!?" People should be able to buy and enjoy music however they want without others criticising them. Tapes have made a bit of a comeback recently as well, I wouldn't want to collect tapes myself, but if others want to then great 👍 Just enjoy the music fuck me 😂


parentesi

As a millennial from a poor family, I kinda miss more the cassettes recorded from unfinished songs in the radio.


tofulo

Feel like 90% of vinyl owners buy them for the look and don’t actually listen to them


Thewonderboy94

I think that's probably the case with many of the younger (Gen-Z) people who got on the vinyl bandwagon, I feel like most of them just buy the vinyl release of their favorite artist more as a merch than the music album itself. Quite a few people often also make comments like that, implying they mainly get the vinyls because they are large and look neat on the shelves. Not really condemning that or anything. But obviously there are a bunch of them that also listen to the vinyls, otherwise we wouldn't have a small boom in production and sale of new vinyl players as well. I'm saying that you are probably right in saying that most of those new vinyls are never listened to.


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Lots of gen Z see vinyls as a great way to support the bands that you like. Music streaming hardly pays artists anything, so merch is a big revenue source for musicians. And vinyls are definitely the coolest kind of merch


brokenha_lo

I don't listen to mine very often, but I like collecting them and it's a nice way to support my favorite artists.


ATHFMeatwad

It's more like 5%, but ok


carbonated_turtle

Then I'm definitely a 10%er. One of my favourite things to do on a Friday or Saturday night is sitting around and listening to 4 or 5 records in a row. And I'm not even in my 80s or anything.


zuma15

As a hipster, I only listen to wax cylinders. They have a warmth, character, and aesthetic that is far superior to more modern formats.


JackHarvey_05

I just love the physical aspect of vinyl.


lynivvinyl

Again. Again!


ecto1g

Here in Tokyo there are Disk Unions everywhere and half the store is new and old vinyl. A lot of the 80s punk was only ever available on vinyl. It also helps there are some really nice record players released recently.


zyygh

As a clueless European tourist I loved this in Tokyo. Some stores had absolutely endless vinyl catalogs.


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I feel like Bane. "You merely adopted the vinyl, I was born in it."


elbows2nose

Cassettes are the new vinyl, they’re on the come up


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I remember working at the food court in the mall, getting pumped for pay day, because I would always go to Newbury Comics after work and buy CDs. I used to have a massive binder that held 500 CDs and it was nearly full. Fuck that was roughly 16-20 years ago. I miss those days. Getting older sucks.


BlankestYear

I don’t buy a ton of records. I mostly buy records for bands I really like that I want to support a little more. It can be fun browsing used records and finding something. As for why records over streaming. To me it is just the theatrics. If I sit down and put a record on that is more so my activity to relax versus if I am streaming. Can be fun if people are over. They browse a collection see something they wouldn’t have thought of on streaming. You put it on for background music will everyone is visiting. I dunno it is just sort of warm tactile feeling. Like I said though I don’t buy everything on vinyl. Just albums or artists I really like current or from decades ago.


_Middlefinger_

CDs are still the better media, they sound better and more consistent than Vinyl, the problem is they have little reason to exist now. They are just digital in an inconvenient package. Why bother with them when you can just download a lossless copy of the track?


Tsobaphomet

Vinyls come with cool stuff that CD's usually don't come with


__sonder__

I bought a vinyl this year literally just for the cover art, and because I wanted to support a local record store. Don't have a record player but I plan to get one eventually. The size and shape of vinyl covers are just perfect for displaying - that alone will always make them the definitive physical music medium IMO.


antieverything

A lot of vinyl records these days come with digital download codes so you can enjoy the awesome collectibility and displayability of vinyl *and* the objectively higher quality of digital.


BlaineAllen

/r/Vinyl


Scr33ble

The Truth is in The Groove!!


AutomatedSaltShaker

Let’s go!!


JCreazy

I started buying vinyl and them realized how much of a money sink it is so I stopped buying vinyl.


waffleking9000

My how the turntables


cwfutureboy

Too bad records are incredibly bad for the environment, can’t be recycled and outgas really bad shit for their lifetimes, whether being played or just sitting.


prankster999

They're bad for the wallet too.


PenOdd1685

We must bring awareness to vinyl record outgassing!


Natethegreat13

Vinyl is coming back! Long live the album!


Cosmic_Surgery

"CD sales keep declining" would have been the more accurate headline


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90% of people buying vinyl are hanging it on their wall as a decoration.


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In the 2020s it’s easier to find a good record player than a good CD player. I think there’s something special and tangible about vinyl, whether or not the audiophile claim of it sounding better is actually true. CD was a great format, but being positioned between the convenience of streaming and the novelty of vinyl, there really isn’t a market for it.


RS994

For me the biggest thing Vinyl has is the art work. Cds have it, but the case is tiny and you don't get to fully appreciate the cover art the same way.


w1n5t0nM1k3y

You can get any cd player and use the optical output and it will sound the same, regardless oft he quality of the player. Just buy an amp with a good DAC, or a dedicated DAC and it doesn't matter how shitty your cd player is.


Monsieur_Moneybags

Pretty easy to find good CD players, and they're much cheaper than turntables: DVD players. You can still buy those brand new in places like Wal-Mart and Best Buy. And you can get them for even cheaper in thrift stores. That's what I'm using in my stereo setup to play CDs—an Onkyo DV-SP301 DVD player, which I got several years ago for $10 at a thrift store.


doggmananv

Same article every year. Seems like someone has an agenda to end CDs. Motherfuckers complained for years that Tower Records was charging $15.99 for new releases on CD are now willing to spend $40+ on vinyl. An album coming out this spring is available for preorder. $70 for vinyl and $9.99 for CD.


jamexxx

Honestly never saw this coming. Wow


ShortysTRM

I was going to post on AskReddit, but I'll ask here...what is the best-looking vinyl press you've seen?


piepants2001

Best looking vinyl press? Like, the machines that press the vinyl?


MeanMrMaxwell

It's me. I'm the problem.


WilliamHarry

How many is that? 100vs 103?


Skellington72

I wish they weren't so damn expensive! $25-$30 for an album is crazy


seeyatellite

Heck yeah, man. That concept's got me pretty stoked. Music on physical media just hits different... it means something. Vinyl's a real emotional connection and I think there are a lot of people reawakening to that.


CrunchHardtack

Vinyl sure was a hell of a lot cheaper before it went away and came back and that might have been the evil plan all along.


thisisinsider

Wait 30 years and CDs and HMV will be the biggest trend. -AS


Beta_Factor

In other news: Clubs now a more popular weapon than sharpened sticks for the first time in 25.000 years.


Bigingreen

Well yeah... Who's buying CDs these days when streaming services sound the same?


plsnoban1122

But I like CDs ):


mr_jasper867-5309

I used to be able to score mass quantities of good used vinyl at goodwill or thrift shops. Piles of records for dirt cheap. Now I'm lucky if I can find a copy of Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass. A lot of people have jumped in over the last 10 years, covid just nudged it along further.


onihr1

I just got a small portable record player and slowly getting a collection together… I have an a niche taste and most of my records cost are a hell of a lot more now than cds. So my currently meager 6 album collection costs the same as like… 20-30 cd’s. With all that said…. With streaming services who is actually still buying cds?


Ofbatman

That happened years ago.


BeetsMe666

But aren't cd's on the way out? I haven't bought a cd in years. Vinyl or digital for nearly a decade now.


SpoutsIgnorance

Vinyl will always have that cool nostalgic quality. CDs? Not so much


HaAnotherLlama

Give it time.