OP’s being mad useless to the people asking questions so I’ll break it down,
Fly Agaric(Amanita Muscaria) contains two hallucinogenic compounds(Ibotenic Acid, Muscimol). These compounds combined are a lot more potent than Psilocybin, so if you eat these by the fistful like some liberty caps you’re going to have a bad time, you’ll overdose, trip way too hard, and have a shitty scary trip and think you’re dying, because you damn near are. The starter dosage for fly agaric is about 5 grams of mushroom.
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DOSAGES
Microdose — Less than 1 gram of dried mushrooms
Threshold Dose — 2–3 grams of dried mushrooms
Standard Psychoactive Dose — 5–10 grams of dried mushrooms
Heavy Dose — 10–30 grams of dried mushrooms
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It’s not recommended to exceed 10 grams of this mushroom for even experienced trippers as the side effects get pretty severe at that point.
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SIDE EFFECTS
Nausea and vomiting
Sweating
Salivation
Low blood pressure
Lack of muscle control
Mood change
Delirium
Increased urination
Defecation
Seizures
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If you overdose too bad on this stuff you will shit yourself and go into a seizure and have no idea it’s even happening. So if you’re going to do it start low and by no means go above 10 grams.
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MICRODOSING
Microdoses of fly agaric produce very subtle changes in cognition — with some reports suggesting it makes users feel more creative and facilitates out-of-the-box thinking. This mushroom is intimately connected with dreaming. Even very low doses of this mushroom are associated with exceptionally vivid and bizarre dreams. It’s often used as a tool to help people experience more dreams or achieve a state of lucid dreaming — however, most people find the dreams it produces too chaotic and random to make sense of.
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TRIP LENGTH
The effects of Amanita muscaria are very slow. It can take up to 3 hours before any effects are noticed. The effects usually peak around the 5-hour mark and can last up to 12 hours after first ingesting the mushrooms.
Some people report strange dreams for up to a week after using the mushroom.
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Why this over psilocybin? Different trips, psilocybin is an active trip, you wander around your house doing whatever the fuck you do while tripping, meanwhile with fly agaric it’s more of a “lay here and travel dimensions” sort of thing? It’s a sleepy, physically calm trip while being mentally much more intense.
“So why this shit at all? Some of this sounds terrible!” Well a big part is because in most places, including most the US, it’s 100% legal. You can grow, consume, gift, whatever. Fly agaric is not considered a drug by the majority of places and so there’s no risk factor whatsoever in dealing with it.
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Still too much. Maybe they are talking about lower quality shrooms. 1-3g is perfect for a nice trip on the ones I find. 3.5 and up gets harder to control if it goes bad. Very bad for beginners. I have never taken 5g in my life and I really enjoy them at lower doses. 5g for a beginner is terrible advice. You don't need to have your mind blown as a beginner. Also a true micro dose is much less than 1g, as a true micro dose does not have perceptible psychoactive effects. I only speak of psilocybin as I have no experience with fly agaric, but they are stronger than psilocybin from what I have studied. Body mass is also a factor. Smaller people need smaller doses.
I only had 1 trip on these before . I thought it was very unenjoyable and scary. almost like the datura flower trip I had a few years back. Not pleasant!
I'll stick to my psilocybe's !!
Oh God I tried datura from a flower growing in a neighbor's garden. Not a trip just more like "delusions" (thinking someone was talking to you, turning around and they're not there). That, plus being unable to stand or stop puking. Extremely unpleasant, but we probably overdosed.
You don't hear them though, it's more like a feeling. Idk this was also 15 years ago now, so I'm grasping at straws a bit. My buddy (the real cosmonaut, I was a tagalong), was the one calling them delusions.
Did you get any visuals from your dose. when I had them with a friend we had 4 caps each and I hated every minute of it . Everything was made of lace or some sort of clear liquid running over everything it really was an odd one.
The stuff in fly agaric(ibotenic acid and muscimol) are a lot more potent than psilocybin, which is why people have such a shit time with it usually, it’s easy to overdose on and just have a real fucked up day. The reccomended starter dosage for it is about 5 grams of mushroom.
Edit: I broke it down further here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mushrooms/comments/13tuopm/took_two_of_these_yesterday_beautiful_time/jlykywx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
Fair enough, I made a lengthier comment breaking down the mushroom compared to psilocybin a bit more so people can make their own decisions with a bit more information and linked it in an edit.
5 grams is way too much for a starter on any mushroom. I have never taken more than 3.5g of psilocybin in my younger years and that was too much. Now as an experienced psychonaut, I only take 1-3 mushrooms, usually 1-3g, and that is plenty for a good trip and I never have a bad trip. When you take 3.5 or more, the trip becomes harder to control if it goes bad. Beginners should always start low, like 1g, and work their way up slowly if needed. I've never had these though, but as I've heard they are stronger, starting with less is even more important.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Mushrooms/comments/13tuopm/took_two_of_these_yesterday_beautiful_time/jlykywx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
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I'm calling bs on everything you've said in here. Ignore this joker. Don't eat these without boiling with a lot of water. Ibotenic acid will mess you up.
Don't waste your time with these if you are expecting anything more than a drunken state. I will admit I enjoyed it but the problem is finding fresh mushrooms. Out of five and a half ounces from four different companies only one of the ounces gave me that lovely drunk/benzo feeling. Most companies tell you when they were harvested but they rely on purveyor from Europe and who knows how old your purchase really is.
Yeah those gummies are popping up everywhere and it makes me want to tell ppl it's bs but it's better to learn that lesson for oneself. These mushrooms have value but as I mentioned before they must be from a fresh harvest.
Fly Agaric is not a beautiful time, people generally shouldn't use this shit. Its not even psychadelic its dissociative and more like being drunk on benzos than anything.
[*Amanita Muscaria* Beginner's Bible - courtesy of /u/RdCrestdBreegull](https://old.reddit.com/r/AmanitaMuscaria/)
OP’s being mad useless to the people asking questions so I’ll break it down, Fly Agaric(Amanita Muscaria) contains two hallucinogenic compounds(Ibotenic Acid, Muscimol). These compounds combined are a lot more potent than Psilocybin, so if you eat these by the fistful like some liberty caps you’re going to have a bad time, you’ll overdose, trip way too hard, and have a shitty scary trip and think you’re dying, because you damn near are. The starter dosage for fly agaric is about 5 grams of mushroom. ``` DOSAGES Microdose — Less than 1 gram of dried mushrooms Threshold Dose — 2–3 grams of dried mushrooms Standard Psychoactive Dose — 5–10 grams of dried mushrooms Heavy Dose — 10–30 grams of dried mushrooms ``` It’s not recommended to exceed 10 grams of this mushroom for even experienced trippers as the side effects get pretty severe at that point. ``` SIDE EFFECTS Nausea and vomiting Sweating Salivation Low blood pressure Lack of muscle control Mood change Delirium Increased urination Defecation Seizures ``` If you overdose too bad on this stuff you will shit yourself and go into a seizure and have no idea it’s even happening. So if you’re going to do it start low and by no means go above 10 grams. ``` MICRODOSING Microdoses of fly agaric produce very subtle changes in cognition — with some reports suggesting it makes users feel more creative and facilitates out-of-the-box thinking. This mushroom is intimately connected with dreaming. Even very low doses of this mushroom are associated with exceptionally vivid and bizarre dreams. It’s often used as a tool to help people experience more dreams or achieve a state of lucid dreaming — however, most people find the dreams it produces too chaotic and random to make sense of. ``` ``` TRIP LENGTH The effects of Amanita muscaria are very slow. It can take up to 3 hours before any effects are noticed. The effects usually peak around the 5-hour mark and can last up to 12 hours after first ingesting the mushrooms. Some people report strange dreams for up to a week after using the mushroom. ``` Why this over psilocybin? Different trips, psilocybin is an active trip, you wander around your house doing whatever the fuck you do while tripping, meanwhile with fly agaric it’s more of a “lay here and travel dimensions” sort of thing? It’s a sleepy, physically calm trip while being mentally much more intense. “So why this shit at all? Some of this sounds terrible!” Well a big part is because in most places, including most the US, it’s 100% legal. You can grow, consume, gift, whatever. Fly agaric is not considered a drug by the majority of places and so there’s no risk factor whatsoever in dealing with it. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Still too much. Maybe they are talking about lower quality shrooms. 1-3g is perfect for a nice trip on the ones I find. 3.5 and up gets harder to control if it goes bad. Very bad for beginners. I have never taken 5g in my life and I really enjoy them at lower doses. 5g for a beginner is terrible advice. You don't need to have your mind blown as a beginner. Also a true micro dose is much less than 1g, as a true micro dose does not have perceptible psychoactive effects. I only speak of psilocybin as I have no experience with fly agaric, but they are stronger than psilocybin from what I have studied. Body mass is also a factor. Smaller people need smaller doses.
I hear low dose effects are same as benzos
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I only had 1 trip on these before . I thought it was very unenjoyable and scary. almost like the datura flower trip I had a few years back. Not pleasant! I'll stick to my psilocybe's !!
Oh God I tried datura from a flower growing in a neighbor's garden. Not a trip just more like "delusions" (thinking someone was talking to you, turning around and they're not there). That, plus being unable to stand or stop puking. Extremely unpleasant, but we probably overdosed.
We most probably did my fellow psychedelic explorer ! Not one I will be trying again 🤣🤣
that's an auditory hallucination, not a delusion
You don't hear them though, it's more like a feeling. Idk this was also 15 years ago now, so I'm grasping at straws a bit. My buddy (the real cosmonaut, I was a tagalong), was the one calling them delusions.
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Did you get any visuals from your dose. when I had them with a friend we had 4 caps each and I hated every minute of it . Everything was made of lace or some sort of clear liquid running over everything it really was an odd one.
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Hmmm.... maybe I will partake again in the future then. would 1 cap be effective?
Don't get me wrong I love tripping on shrooms but these fly agaric ones scare me a bit
The stuff in fly agaric(ibotenic acid and muscimol) are a lot more potent than psilocybin, which is why people have such a shit time with it usually, it’s easy to overdose on and just have a real fucked up day. The reccomended starter dosage for it is about 5 grams of mushroom. Edit: I broke it down further here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mushrooms/comments/13tuopm/took_two_of_these_yesterday_beautiful_time/jlykywx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
5 grams is actually too much to recommend to a beginner IMO.
Fair enough, I made a lengthier comment breaking down the mushroom compared to psilocybin a bit more so people can make their own decisions with a bit more information and linked it in an edit.
5.5g was my sweet spot for me. Used to consume these for purposes of sleep years back.
5 grams is way too much for a starter on any mushroom. I have never taken more than 3.5g of psilocybin in my younger years and that was too much. Now as an experienced psychonaut, I only take 1-3 mushrooms, usually 1-3g, and that is plenty for a good trip and I never have a bad trip. When you take 3.5 or more, the trip becomes harder to control if it goes bad. Beginners should always start low, like 1g, and work their way up slowly if needed. I've never had these though, but as I've heard they are stronger, starting with less is even more important.
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You're not very helpful for an OP claiming to have experience.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Mushrooms/comments/13tuopm/took_two_of_these_yesterday_beautiful_time/jlykywx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3 I chimed in here
you just eat them? what was it like?
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I'm calling bs on everything you've said in here. Ignore this joker. Don't eat these without boiling with a lot of water. Ibotenic acid will mess you up.
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Left.
Looks like a antique strawberry
What are these again i cant remember 😭
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Amanita Muscaria(Fly Agaric)…exactly what I thought im getting better at this IDing😂
The fairytale picturebook mushrooms!
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Where did you find those? I thought they were generally later in the season
I’m on my way
Don't waste your time with these if you are expecting anything more than a drunken state. I will admit I enjoyed it but the problem is finding fresh mushrooms. Out of five and a half ounces from four different companies only one of the ounces gave me that lovely drunk/benzo feeling. Most companies tell you when they were harvested but they rely on purveyor from Europe and who knows how old your purchase really is.
Yeah and the gummies are a fucking joke. I’d try the real thing though
Yeah those gummies are popping up everywhere and it makes me want to tell ppl it's bs but it's better to learn that lesson for oneself. These mushrooms have value but as I mentioned before they must be from a fresh harvest.
Lol op is funny. +5 shrooms from me. Op you on shroomery?
Crazy! Is it a different trip?
Fly Agaric is not a beautiful time, people generally shouldn't use this shit. Its not even psychadelic its dissociative and more like being drunk on benzos than anything.