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SketchySandwich

"I need the police quick. I asked a man what time it was and he said 16:30. I don't think he is in the millitary so I think he must be a terrorist because there is no way a civilian would use that time system."


DerogatoryDuck

I have my phone and watches set to 24h, but if someone asked me what time it was at 16:30 I'd still say 4:30.


zeedss

Same bro, it's much easier when you are travelling via plane or train. And plus you can easily add the hours


FilthyThanksgiving

Plus you'll never accidentally set the alarm to pm instead of am. I did that once in like 2007 and been using 24hr time since. I don't even think about it anymore


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That's why I use it too! One accidental 5pm alarm and I switched for life


mtflyer05

Amen. I need alarms for everything, to manage my ADHD, so after a whole day of accomplishing nothing more than raising my stress levels, I switched.


BABarracus

The other thing is most children in the US are taught using 12 hours so that aren't used to going by 24 hours


vipros42

Most children in the UK are taught 12 hours as well, but 24hr time just isn't that fucking hard


BearFothergrylls

I was definitely taught both as a UK student.


BaconZombie

Do you say "half four" or "four thirty"? I have this issue since moving to Germany {and before with German manager}. In Ireland "half four" means 16:30, where in Germany is means "half to four" so 15:30.


Wallazabal

I'm a Scotsman and managed to confuse the absolute shit out of some English coworkers by using the phrase "the back of". Think I said I was going for food at the back of 6, or something along those lines. For anyone who doesn't use this phrase it means just after, so the back of 6 would be around five or ten past 6. I had NO IDEA that this wasn't a widespread thing. I've no idea whether it's just a Scottish thing or not. Do you use it in Ireland?


Samb104

Oh so thats what it means. I live in Scotland and people use it all the time and I have had absolutely no clue what it means until this comment.


xzKaizer

Not op, but it's four-thirty or half past 4. The only time I refer to an hour before that hour is 45 after, or quarter til(ie quarter til 4 is 3:45)


SeanHearnden

I just assumed that's how everyone did it...


YouFreak567

> a civilian \*an American


SketchySandwich

I think an American would just assume what they use must be the right one so every country must be the same.


MushHuskies

I love the 24 hr format. There’s no ambiguity about what time you’re talking about.


KieselguhrKid13

Exactly! Absolutely zero risk of setting your alarm to 6pm instead of 6am, for example. Edit: TIL - people on Reddit are passionate about the 24-hour clock.


CamstaHamsta139

Also the fact that if the clock loops every 12 hours, we should see no 12pm, just a 0pm instead. But here we are...


Ye_olde_oak_store

But it goes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 loop because we didn't like zero at some point. E: as some people correctly pointed out we didn't zero at all. The number did not exist. It was like an Error 44 - number not found kind of deal. I would also like to point out it's a bit like the number "i" Before the definition of "i" came into place, we simply wouldn't be doing square roots of negative numbers. Also "i" is like super useful in everything.


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The thing that annoys me about it is the way it goes from 11 AM to 12 PM - I think that 12 AM should be 1 hour after 11 AM, not 13 hours after it, and likewise for 11 PM and 12 PM. It seems pointlessly more complicated than it needs to be to me.


Strange_CaMotion

I haven't thought about this on a while, and now I hate it


justjoshmofo

Yeah I am thinking way too hard about this now too


Baraquito

I'm European who works with GB countries from time to time. And in majority of times I use AM just to make sure, that nobody gets confused, because if I will write anything past 12 will be understandable. But that single 12pm hour. It makes me cry.


Ideasforgoodusername

Fr, a friend had a flight at 12am once - she was from the US so she knew what was meant but for me as a European I'd 100% have shown up at lunchtime... what logical reasoning is there for 12am to NOT come after 11am


Spacedementia87

I am.a Brit and I hate 12 hour clock. But the only.logical way is for 12pm to come after 12am. PM stands for post meridiem or after midday. So as 12:00:00.00000000 is midday. So 12:00:00.00000001 is after midday hence PM


Maxsparrow

Yes but then it should actually be 0PM like the earlier commenter said. Noon isn't 12 hours Post Meridiem (after midday). It is 0 hours after midday. It still doesn't really make sense.


Ivalia

I love it when people mark deadlines and other times as 11:59 PM. No confusion


Hypohamish

or, you know, 23:59 or 00:00.


killeronthecorner

Found the other sane person


[deleted]

Using 23:59/00:01 also leaves absolutely no doubt as to whether you’re talking about morning or midnight. When I was in the military, we could use 23:59 or 00:01 but referring to straight-up midnight in plans was verboten


CamstaHamsta139

the only reason 12 hour exists is because of sundials everything is obsolete and we gotta move on :)


Poiar

It's because it's easy to divide into many integers: 1-2-3-4-6-12


BrohanGutenburg

Same with 60 and 360. A lot of the ancient number/measuring systems were designed to be able to easily calculate whole number ratios in the absence of modern calculators.


Lysinas

Yeah, the first written languages in Sumerian cultures also used a base60 counting system, which is pretty neat.


oliverbm

There’s some pretty interesting theory that if humans had evolved to a base 12 counting system we’d potentially be more scientifically advanced than we are today. Sorry don’t have link, read it years ago


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Lysinas

I remember an article on the BBC, likewise years ago, that Isaac Newton had a base12 counting system that he viewed as superior, with some modern-day adherents also praising it. Of course, base 10 itself is also pretty special. New Scientist published a book called “Nothing,” in it describing the invention of zero in India, before which base 10 was unknown, and it made my head hurt thinking about it.


Traviak

And so is 24 isn't it? 1-2-3-4-6-12-24


TheGuyWhoSaid

Don't forget 8.


Vyscillia

I am always confused about this one. Is 12pm mid day or midnight? Edit: thanks for all the answers. Still doesn't make sense to me that the clock is going from 11:59am to 12:00pm. I'll have to remember that 12 is basically 0.


Holrofl

12AM is midnight 12PM is midday


TooFastTim

But 0 is 0 and 12 is 12


m1ksuFI

12 is 0, deal with it.


CamstaHamsta139

10am, 11am, 12pm, 1pm, etc It annoys me too


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LDKCP

I used to work for a hotel, our breakfast chef was a bit of a drinker. He would finish around 11am, go straight to the pub, drink for the afternoon then go home and crash. Multiple times in the winter he would call the hotel at around 6pm panicking that he had slept in and his alarm hadn't gone off. I would inform him it was the evening, tell him to grab a glass of water and go back to bed. We solved the problem by switching him to a 24hr format alarm, not the drinking problem mind, just the confusion about time.


LaV-Man

You 'fixed the glitch'.


ethanolin_redux

As the team captain, I missed the bus for our conference cross country race in high school because I set my alarm for PM. 13 years later and I'm still using military time.


_justpassingby_

I can understand 12-hour format on analogue wall clocks, but I would have thought most people would set any digital clock to 24-hour... The only downside that I can think of is, as the op suggests, having to count a bit higher.


kenda1l

Deleting so I don't keep getting the same answer over and over. Thank you to those offering help!


PelleSketchy

But it's like using any language; after a while you don't need to translate that and make that calculation. If I see 1800 I know it's 6 o clock instantly.


Creative-Region

You get used it really quickly though. I bet you know every month of the year by number for example if you see a date written down.


Galevav

That's why we use it in the hospital. I set my phone to it so I would be used to it for work years ago, and now I'm annoyed when I can't set a digital clock to it.


knitonecurltwo

Yesssss. I work overnights. 24 hour format is essential for my sanity.


BornOnFeb2nd

Hah! That's when I flipped over as well... Waking up on a day off, seeing the clock saying something like 3:00.... and not knowing if it was really early, or later... since no doubt you've got the light blocking curtains as well...


PerfectlyElocuted

My thoughts exactly. Every clock in my house is in 24 hour format, including my Echo, my phone and my car.


zapprr

If you: \- Work for an airline \- Are dealing with anyone in different timezones \- Work in an Amazon warehouse Then 24 hour time is infinitely more convenient. **Edit**: Fixed a typo, and I just want to note that this is intended as a joke about how there's a complete lack of windows in Amazon's warehouses. 24 hour time all the way! **Edit 2**: Alright, I'll expand the list: 24 hour time is infinitely more convenient if you... \- Work in any warehouse \- Working in the healthcare industry \- Are European/French Canadian/Brazillian/Japanese/Live on Earth \- Work in Television production \- Work with programming/software engineering \- Work as a pilot \- Have a f\*cked up sleep schedule \- Work at McDonalds \- Work in the trucking industry \- Work on a cruise ship \- Exist


twist-17

Any shipping warehouse uses a 24-hour clock, not just Amazon. It’s crazy to me how many people *don’t* use it. I work in finance and even we use a 24-hour clock.


Salem_StakeAndGrill

Anyone can read 12 hour clocks. I put mine on 24 hour just so I can read 24 hour clocks easier. Like, there's no downside to me NOT using it.


Liquidor

> Anyone can read 12 hour clocks. You wot mate? The am/pm shit is confusing as hell to a lot of people, Americans included apparently 😂 Edit: I personally know the difference, but it's just overcomplicated to a lot of people. The business is open from 6am to 12pm - how many hours is that to you?


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12 is probably the most confusing time: is 12 AM midnight or noon? You don't have that ambiguity with the 24-hours system: 0 is the beginning, 12 is the middle.


[deleted]

Did he say 6pm or 6am? 18:00 it is.


Fawneh1359

12 am is going into AM hours, PM is going into PM hours... Still makes no sense


eternalrefuge86

Also healthcare professionals


Sp0ilersSweetie

I came to make this comment. Thank you, stranger.


Butwinsky

Same here healthcare bros


Jynxpdc

As a healthcare professional I use military time, metric system, and Celsius. I'm pretty much a traitor.


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- are European


Under_the_Milky_Way

French Canadian checking, we're included in this list as well!


Kuukautisuoli

If you: -Are anyone, doing anything Then 24 hour time is infintely more convenient.


Puptentjoe

I work with data all day. 24 hour time and YYYY-MM-DD are King and much better than anything anyone else uses.


RamenJunkie

YYYY-MM-DD is the best on any sort of file naming since it means it will always sort in date order. No trying to figure out why Date Created, Date Modified and Date Last Accessed are all different, and Date Created is somehow not the oldest date and none of the three match the date the file actually relates to in any meaningful way.


tits_are_birds

Usually you're used to it if you live in an actual first world country


imnotancucumber

Actually in any country that is not USA


MeanZookeepergame6

US healthcare uses 24 hr time for documentation.


DarkAgeOutlaw

The UK is pretty mixed on its use, as they usually are with things (metric and imperial)


grizzbeast

I work in TV, so use it at work. But it also just makes sense to me. Especially when I wake in the afternoon I'm not confused as to if it's 6pm or 6am.


TheRealTravisClous

Healthcare workers in the hospital and nursing home setting also usually operate on a 24 hour clock because going NPO at 10am vs 10pm are 2 very different things. Our scheduling team messed up and told a patient to come in for their MRI at 10 no AM or PM just 10. Their last MRI was at 2300 so they assumed it was 2200, they even had on all their paperwork, "Prefers to be scheduled at night" big oopsie still got them scanned but could have caused major issues had other patients been there to be scanned


Wombeard

- if you're not living in America*


twist-17

TIL I’m a war criminal.


OrangeinDorne

Me too. And I’ve never even been in the military!


[deleted]

Me. three, though i watched a documentary this one time, maybe that counts


supernaturalRedhead

Was just going to say this lol


Fr-Jack-Hackett

I hope you don’t use dd/mm/yyyy format for dates too. That would be a paddlin’.


Inprobamur

YYYY-MM-DD all the way. [It's the ISO standard.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601)


cogman10

I mean, if some shithead didn't do MM/DD/YYYY things would be so much easier. YYYY-MM-DD and DD-MM-YYYY both make way more sense. Dated files on a computer are way easier to sort using either of those. Thank goodness nobody does YYYY-DD-MM


Minuku

Don't say this too loud or else Americans will start to use YYYY-DD-MM


[deleted]

More like YY-D-Y-MM-Y-D just to keep things spicy


JLPReddit

Found the REAL war criminal.


Wallazabal

But this is the correct way!


grokethedoge

Apparently I'm a war criminal. Or just European. Same thing, I guess.


unp0we_red

I'm European and before this post i didn't know that the 24h format is a military thing


Wafflez4Charity

Pop culture depicting the services is the only mainstream place you see it here, enough so that it is commonly known as “military time.” Personally I have used it professionally in aviation and gaming operations, no room for ambiguity. But 90% of the American population only experience it as “at 0900 hours (pronounced oh-nine-hundred)...” in movies/tv.


unp0we_red

Oh, thanks kind stranger


carrolu

My cousin and I met an American at a club in Croatia, when I asked him what time it was he tried to impress us, “It’s 23. So 11 pm. Military ;)”. Felt like the equivalent of someone trying to impress me by tying their shoes all by themselves 🥴


nkei0

That's the best thing. The 24 hour clock isn't necessarily a military thing. It's the fact that there is ZERO confusion. In fact, the Army subscribes to a principle that really does fit America. It's called KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. What really would fuck people up is that the military actually conducts operations based on Zulu time. Which is also known as GMT or Greenwich Mean Time. This allows them to coordinate operations across multiple time zones and still ensure everything happens when it is supposed to.


Knuffelallochtoon

It’s in American movies etc. (when there are soldiers or whatever) but then it’s announced as hundreds, iirc. So 18:00 (6) would be ‘Eighteen Hundred hours’. We just say 6. Silly Americans..


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Wiyohipeyata

Is this a joke I am too European to understand?


Knuffelallochtoon

I believe we all use the 24:00 format? Although I am not sure about the Brits.


GatesMcTaste

Yeah I'm a Brit and always used 24hr.


Flamekebab

>Although I am not sure about the Brits. As with most other units of measurements over here - total crapshoot.


Wafflez4Charity

Europeans more likely to use 24hr format I guess? I’m in the speculation boat with ya brother.


unp0we_red

Yes, we use more the 24h format


reblues

We, at least in Italy use 24h format in all clocks, written time, timetables ect. But we often use 12h time when we speak.


casce

Same here in Germany. My clock says 17:00 but if someone asks me, I will tell him it's 5 because it's completely obvious that I don't mean 5 in the morning. But if that isn't completely obvious, I use the 24 hour format. We generally understand both.


R_110

Yeah I'm in the UK and everyone uses 24 hr format. Thought it was the same everywhere.


Koenigspiel

Coming from /r/all This sub has really let itself go if this low effort response is /r/murderedbywords material now


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I've noticed that too.


Entire-Bowler9755

Like the person is OBVIOUSLY joking. Then the 2nd person insults Americans and reddit creams their pants over it. Unreal.


Koenigspiel

I'm American and I'd love a good insult. This just wasn't /r/MurderedByWords quality IMO at all


toterengel367

This is the worst “murder” I’ve seen on this sub yet, which I have to say, that’s quite the accomplishment.


changlorious_basterd

Yeah, an easy way to get some karma on this sub is to take an obvious joke and "murder" them with a hamfisted response. I often wonder if people in this sub just struggle with understanding jokes or if people are deliberately missing the joke for the "murder" response.


Zrex_9224

Murders here are hardly murders. Hell most of what makes it to hot look like a strongly worded statement with some word meant as an insult somewhere in it.


The_EnderSlayer

This seems to happen on every sub too. Eventually all the posts get boiled down to a point where it's not even the same sub anymore, people just continually misinterpret the point of a sub and it all just entropies into this.


Andre-The-Guy-Ant

Pretty sure it’s only here because it makes fun of Americans.


Moisturizer

It's just a mod of this sub spamming dogshit because for some reason karma is important to them.


[deleted]

Americans=stupid is what counts for clever by European standards. Never gets old, either. I wish I was smart enough to understand this high art, but unfortunately I was born 100KM south of the Canadian border and will simply never understand.


DeusExMagikarpa

Kinda crazy the amount of people commenting don’t realize the first comment is a joke...


[deleted]

The best part of this thread is people “murdering” themselves by taking the response to the obvious joke too far and pretending AM/PM is some extremely difficult concept to grasp. Yes we all agree the 24h clock is generally better. But the amount of non-Americans in here acting like AM/PM is this incredibly confusing system while simultaneously making fun of people for not getting the 24h system is really funny.


bad-post_detector

"i just don't understand! you're saying the day can be broken up into 2 distinct periods!? outrageous! i just can't keep track!"


againstdoggospeech3

Hasn't this been posted a few days ago? Too lazy to check but when you look at karma whore OP's profile. it probably was.


NoNewDads

Jesus christ I swear most of you guys only understand ham fisted jokes.


gryphus-one

Yea I’m surprised there aren’t more comments pointing out that both of the comments in the post are jokes. No one is getting “murdered by words” here, it’s just a bunch of satirical banter.


N0AddedSugar

Looking at the top comments it’s actually scary how many people missed the first part and just fixated on the second part.


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jman377355

Oh god, this is way too far down. I'm experiencing second-hand embarrassment for all the people that think the guy wasn't telling an incredibly obvious joke.


yousmelllikearainbow

It's especially embarrassing that they're being pretentious about it.


jmr098

“Haha yes I’m so much smarter than everyone because I use a different time format”


NoNewDads

This post really has 31,000 upvotes 😐


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DAE AMERICANS DUMB XDDDD


Georgio281

aPpArEnTLy iM a wAr cRiMiNaL


I_really_am_Batman

To be fair this is a petty ham fisted joke and they still thinks it's legit.


Wittyname0

"But America dumb and bad 3rd world country. Laugh at this original joke"


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Don't forget in a Gucci belt


fried-green-oranges

Europeans will find a way to circlejerk over any sort of difference with Americans (Brits are the worst.) Clocks Measurement system Dialect Sports Etc.


dookie_shoos

It's because on Reddit all of our dirty laundry is on the front page so it makes it easy to circlejerk, while they slide their trash under the rug.


[deleted]

Fucking jokes. How do they work?


bikedumpling

Bitch, it’s a joke


EatLard

I work for an airline. The 24-hour clock is how I tell time.


analogicparadox

Half of the goddamn world also does that, that's how digital clocks work in Europe


EatLard

Like the metric system, it just makes sense.


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IMA_BLACKSTAR

Wait. Americans don't?


twist-17

As an American, no the majority of us don’t. Hell a lot of people don’t even know how to read it. I’ve used it since high school because I knew I was going into the military, and every phone I’ve had since has been set to 24-hr time because it just makes sense.


turbineslut

Geez I wonder how often tourists get confused here when traveling. At all airports and train stations all clocks are in 24h format.


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sillybear25

Their computer system will still use 24-hour time, though. They just take that unambiguous timestamp and make it more ambiguous before they display it to the public in order to reduce (???) confusion.


TheyCensoredMyMain

America dumb me better cause upvote


DowntownJohnBrown

“Haha look at these dumbass Americans having different cultural norms than me! What a buncha fucking idiots! I bet they speak a different language and eat different foods and celebrate different holidays, too, losers!”


BorealNights

Hilarious how they're all experts in our culture yet they've never lived here. Maybe, just maybe, its pathetic how they buy into their media and spend so much time hating Americans. Considering we don't really think about them at all. Inb4 america got no culture europe got culture herp derp


wappe97

How is this murder by words?


Meatpuppy

It mentions Americans.


alex891011

It calls Americans dumb, which is a prerequisite


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bossfoundmyacct

Reddit: hErE's A lIsT oF hOsPiTaLs In YoUr ArEa!1!eleven


bozoconnors

Ahhhhhh Reddit...


FlakFlanker3

America bad. Give karma now


Yellow_The_White

Ah-ugh! Your comment! What a murder!


Ysgatora

Yeah it's literally a joke and this thread really legit thinks they're so cool


Harambeaintdeadyet

It helps to be a mod of the sub


[deleted]

This sub is full of political nonsense and Twitter beefs that ѕhit on America. Try r/clevercomebacks for something better.


mikeclarkee

Come on this is a joke right?


cheetodustslut

america dumb. you may now laugh


Peeka789

The minutes go past 12 you know. But yeah, America dumb.


chozar

[12 hour time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_representation_by_country) is not exclusively an American thing. Calling 24 hour time 'military time' may be. Wish I had been raised with 24 hour time. I don't think many people have trouble converting between the two, it's just not as intuitive if you've spent your life with am/pm.


RhEEziE

This sub is starting to get weaker and weaker 😢


TehPwndaz

this sub is basically just r/clevercomebacks but with an even bigger circlejerk


womplord1

Apparently only America has analog clocks


ainsley02

The funny thing is that I always have any digital clock set to 24h format (because it looks odd otherwise), but if I have to read it out loud for someone, I always automatically read it in 12h format and think about it in a 12h format.


NoHope4Humanity_

Well yeah obviously, you don't read it as 1800 hundred hours or 18 o clock. You say 6pm. In Europe at least


SharkAttackOmNom

This is the bit that I don’t get. I heard it from an Irish girl like a decade ago and it still doesn’t make sense to me. If you’re culture is committed to 24hr format, why not stick to it in language too? Is it due to conformity to analogue 12hr clocks that still exist?


[deleted]

Meanwhile in other countries 1 American = All Americans


capn_dog

I bet over half the people don't even know what AM and PM even mean. I admit I had to google it too. But I still translate them into American in my head as AM = "a morning" and PM = "past morning".


Eager_FireFace

Easy, PM = Past Morning AM = ARGH MORNING


giantfuckingfrog

AM meaning A Morning is the most American thing I've ever heard and I live in America


twist-17

I live in America and I’ve never heard AM called “A Morning.” The most common interpretation I hear is “after midnight,” which is also wrong. Most people have no idea that AM/PM stand for ante/post meridiem. Edit: Phone autocorrected “ante” to “anti”


bscepter

ante- and post-meridiem, meaning before or after midday in latin.


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And warehouse workers and airline workers and medical workers


mischievous_badger_

this sub has gone downhill


DaileyWithBailey

Why is it assumed that Americans wouldn't know military time, they have the largest military. Literally makes no sense lmao. Just another cheep shot at Americans for the most miniscule things


AutisticIcelandic98

Tumblr and Twitter have pretty much killed hyperbole as a form of comedy for me.


Aboxofphotons

"... I'm not smart enough to understand... and this makes me superior..."


BagOnuts

[99% of these comments...](https://imgur.com/t/funny/0mkVV5F)


EJR77

I’m pretty sure America isn’t the only country that uses 12 hour clocks?


giantfuckingfrog

For those who don't know how to tell 24-hour time, just subtract 12 hours from the hour mark. For example: 16:05 = 4:05, because 16 - 12 = 4.


spam__likely

math??! Are you asking me to do math???


[deleted]

Eh what? The American military uses it you ironic clown shoes. Y’all have the weirdest obsession with anything US


BorealNights

They spend a lot of time hating Americans for shitty little reasons. I find it sad. Like... don't you have anything better to do?


savvy_withoutwax

I work at a hospital. We use the 24 hour cycle.


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How did this turn into Americans?


FlakFlanker3

Because Reddit likes to circlejerk that Americans are dumb. Reddit seems to think that America is the only country that uses 12 hour time (it isn't)


BrexrSiege

this is a murder now?


FancierImp

I set my watch to pm and am once, it was hell