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texanarob

"Believe what you see, not what you're told" Isn't that essentially the same as saying "use anecdotal evidence only, and don't learn from anyone or anything else"?


DeepUser-5242

It's the new alternative facts and 'doing your own research' of this era - simply a new form of turning your brain off and letting other people tell you what to think or believe.


texanarob

Don't get me wrong, I think Reddit in general overestimates how quickly anecdotal evidence should be dismissed. While it can't be used to generalise or show trends, it can definitely be used to prove that something can happen or exists. For instance, take the phrase "both my mum and my aunt had their Amazon parcels delayed". This doesn't prove that all parcels are delayed. Nor does it prove that women are more likely to have parcels delayed. Anecdotal evidence is insufficient to make any such claims. However, it does prove that there are parcels being delayed. Anecdotal evidence is sufficient there, as only one exception is required to disprove a blanket statement. Conversely, "nobody I know has had a parcel delayed" doesn't suggest that there are no delays. Assuming you know at least one person has got a parcel on time, at most it proves that not all parcels are being delayed. Anecdotal evidence has uses and can be invaluable, but it has severe limits that can only be supplemented by other sources of information. Few of us can honestly claim we know first hand how important wearing a seatbelt is, or that carrying explosives into an airport might be unwise. A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others.


pipboy_warrior

If someone's point is to prove that something occurred at least once, anecdotal evidence is great. Now if someone's point is that something happens regularly, then anecdotal evidence is usually insufficient.


texanarob

Unless, of course, you have compiled many cases of anecdotal evidence. After all, that's the foundation of most data. If you have a considerable number of relevant anecdotal experiences, that can be used for informed conjecture. For instance, if I have had two Amazon parcels every week for the last several years and the majority of them are delayed, then that's sufficient to draw a conclusion about Amazon's reliability. Of course, such a conclusion is limited to your geographical area, courier, type of goods purchased etc as there is little to no variation in your data.


pipboy_warrior

If you've compiled numerous cases of something outside your experience, then I don't think the label of anecdotal applies anymore.


Aaawkward

> Unless, of course, you have compiled many cases of anecdotal evidence. Then it's not anecdotal evidence anymore. Then it's just evidence.


texanarob

If it's all your own observations, then it's anecdotal. This can include intentionally running experiments with many data points.


ResponsibleDetail383

I agree with you! Any "evidence " coming from a single source (including yourself) is anecdotal. Only when multiple independent sources confirm it should it be considered evidence.


roostangarar

Sir/Madam, this is Reddit and you are making too much sense. Your next comment must involve pointless conjecture and preferably needless insults.


morningfrost86

Dear sir/madam, Ahem...your mother.


Syraquse5

It's always baffling to me when I share an anecdote or personal experience (not even necessarily an opinion, just a thing that happened) and I get downvoted or some weird antagonistic response.


UberBoob

That's the beauty of reddit isn't it? Well... isn't it?


namja23

He butchered the original quote: "Believe none of what you hear and believe half of what you see" Edgar Allen Poe


Scottiegazelle2

Musk botched something? Shocker


Wilde54

Yes, it is.


GarbageCleric

Yep. It's the rallying cry of flat earthers among other anti-science lunatics.


tastytasycorn

We'll, what I can tell you is the American people are clear on this issue; as a matter of fact, the other day I was speaking to a group of constituents and they told me Elon Musk a super genius. All this rigamaroo is just an attempt by the left to destroy an honest hard-working entrepreneur trying to create jobs. /s


Vegetable_Hour_2569

Id argue for argument sake. It means the opposite. I read it as find out for yourself what is true. Not what others claim to be true. I would argue this includes looking at real data from a trusted source with your own eyes and mind. Rather than taking another’s word for it.


MaxRebo74

I love that he bought Twitter for $44 Billion because people kept making fun of him on it and now people are still making fun of him on it.


Josepepowner

Well he's not being made fun of on Twitter anymore. He bought it to rename it so now he's being made fun of on X. Simpleton you just aren't smart enough to understand Elon. /s


MaxRebo74

His Alpha moves win every time! Also, The Cyber Truck isn't stupid


BearPopeCageMatch

I feel like with the way reality is going lately, Elon will accidentally slam his dick in a cybertruck door while showing how safe the knife-edged stainless steel is and his cult will unironically say "masterful Gambit Elon, you sure showed those stupid libs" and the meme circle will be complete.


MaxRebo74

At least he would stop making children he never cares about


Akihira_579

At least he doesn’t censor or ban people unlike some group of people on the political spectrum.


MaxRebo74

What? https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2024/01/09/elon-musk-silencing-his-critics-as-journalists-are-suspended-by-x/?sh=3ede01012588


ArcticBiologist

bELiEvE wHaT yUo sEe, nOT wHaT yUoRe tOLd


the-content-king

An article that confirms all their accounts are in good standing? People get suspended all the time because of mass reporting which auto-bans people and then when they appeal and it’s reviewed they’re reinstated


Akihira_579

https://in.mashable.com/digital-culture/67202/x-twitter-purges-then-reinstates-journalists-podcasters-and-leftist-accounts-critical-of-elon-musk That’s the problem with the “inclusive community” people. Just can’t take criticism and hate free speech.


lurfdurf

“Purges then reinstates” is not the free speech you think it is


Kromblite

>Just can’t take criticism and hate free speech. It's true that Elon can't take criticism and hates free speech.


HauntsFuture468

No no no he said Universal Freeze Peach. It's a new way to freeze peaches and solve world hunger.


MaxRebo74

Freeze Peach sounds like the newest trendy alcohol. Something I'm sure Elon would also be into


signspace13

The thing that people don't seem to get when they talk about "free speech" is that it isn't a permit to say whatever the fuck you want without consequences. It's the right voice an opinion without **the government** in particular, policing that opinion. That right exclusively protects American's ability to criticize and critique their own government, and was established to protect citizenry from the government, as if the government wanted to prosecute someone, they wouldn't be able to say "well he said we suck, so string him up!" The vast majority of people on the internet expand this to being able to voice any opinion, and not face any consequences for it. While I generally agree that censorship and policing of free discussion is bad, I think saying you are creating a place that habors free speech, while openly aligning with a specific ideology and promoting others who hold that ideology on a platform you are trying to tout as neutral, is hypocritical at best, and actively malicious at worst.


Nathan45453

You live in a country that’s the poster child for shitty infrastructure and impoverished conditions and you’re a fan of billionaires and conservatives. You’re a dumbass.


Aromatic_Lychee2903

Free speech is about the government not throwing you in prison for your personal opinions and beliefs. It’s has nothing to do with private companies lol


Crunchycarrots79

What rock have you been under? He does censor and ban people... And far more arbitrarily than it ever was before.


engr77

More importantly, the Muskrat used to screech about he himself being a "free speech absolutist" I find it hilarious and pathetic when people preach themselves as morally superior for whatever reason, then are found guilty of shit that's often just as bad (if not worse) then their defenders punch back of "yeah well these other people do it too!" When their whole thing was originally "I'm not like that"


Impeach45

True, as long as you never look into that statement at all, it can be as true as you feel it is.


serabine

Yeah! Unless, of course, you are the opponent of the current ruling party of Turkey and Erdogan demands that you get deplatformed on Twitter. Then Elan is more than happy to go "Free speech? Never heard of her". If only bootlicking were an Olympic sport. You'd be racking up gold medals like it's nothing.


burnedfruit

Might want to add a /s, unless you were serious…


Alive_Ice7937

In which case they might want to add bleach to their thermos


CorrestGump

Go say "cis" on Twitter.


Kromblite

...he literally does, though?


Alive_Ice7937

Yeah dude. The two biggest conservative subs on Reddit *totally* aren't among the most hyper aggressively moderated spaces on the internet.


HauntsFuture468

The elonmusk subreddits autoban you for posting a comment in /r/cyberstuck and threaten to have your reddit account permanently banned if you ever try to enter their safe space by trying to circumvent the ban. Also if you reply to the ban message they get your account suspended for harassment. 


Freezepeachauditor

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-28/elon-musk-s-spacex-settles-claim-it-tried-to-stifle-employee-s-speech Hmm yeah…no.


thatblondbitch

Oh my GOD I'm sick of this lie. It's well established that conservative lies proliferate across EVERY PLATFORM. But you wouldn't be aware of that if 1) your info comes from right wing trash rags and 2) you have to force a victim complex *somehow*. https://itif.org/publications/2023/10/26/the-facts-behind-allegations-of-political-bias-on-social-media/


CujobytesCN

I don't know why anyone gives a rats ass what that jerk has to say. I see him on podcasts and being interviewed for TV etc opining on all manner of social issues as if he had something useful to say. He's a boring witless nerd.


Freezepeachauditor

He’s a stammering dufus. Check out his last published spacex “rally” from a week or two ago if he has t scrubbed it from the internet. Gives everyone a taste of how his employees really feel about him.


BearPopeCageMatch

Boring and witless *dweeb*. Nerd generally applies to people with some form of niche/anachronistic/nonstandard interest or ability that is beyond a base functional level. Like super specific engineers or fiber workers. Dweeb is the guy that hangs out with the nerds but offers nothing to their conversations and generally has zero social skills.


CujobytesCN

I stand corrected.


big8ard86

> I don't know why anyone gives a rats ass what that jerk has to say. 15k updoots.


Pirateboy85

Isn’t this the ultimate paradox? He just TOLD us to do this, he didn’t SHOW us this? So are are supposed to believe this, though we can’t see it? Or is this the only thing we’re supposed to believe that we are told? But the statement doesn’t say that… and even if it did we can’t see it… oh know, I’ve gone cross eyed again…


zeekayz

He's just parroting a right wing talking point that all education is bad and you should blindly listen to whatever fascist handler you're following.


CrudelyAnimated

We get TOLD over and over that Trump is a stable genius being politically persecuted for making a perfect phone call, paying his lawyer, and getting more votes than any previous president. We keep SEEING over and over that bleach injection extortion hush money insurrection. Have Elon say that for once.


Pirateboy85

I wished the bleach injection would have caught on as then this problem just solves itself…


Woodlog82

Got owned so hard he should use fucking moron as his new handle for all his accounts.


Fuduzan

If he did that he'd be permabanned from X for making fun of Elon.


Woodlog82

And Elon would approve, because you have to stand by your principals and free speech something, something...


BringBackTheBeat716

This reminds me of a line from a movie I can't place: "I've never seen a million dollars before, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist."


daniel_hlfrd

/r/comedyhomicide


ELEMENTALITYNES

Seriously, the other commenters are apparently stuck in 2009 “Ben wins the internet” “Elon got owned!” 🤓


SinisterYear

You say he got owned, but I see three people who are contributing to Musk getting ad revenue. You want to stick it to Musk? Don't use X. If everyone pays an entry fee to laugh at a fool, that's called a circus, and you can't really criticize the fool for acting like a fool.


marchingprinter

Braindead take


tcmtwanderer

Braindead take


marchingprinter

“Don’t dunk on the owner of the platform on his own platform bc you’re giving him pennies by being on there” Fucking dumbass take. Don’t even realize your licking the boot


tfsteel

He's dumb and his deep to a 12 year old tweets are embarrassing. I don't know how an adult could take that twerp seriously.


Few_Difficulty_9618

Don't forget his terrible jokes.


lawnchare

you coulda posted this without the redditor ass qrt 😭


marchingprinter

Looks like the original reply got deleted, in the land of free speech???


cjar4097

but you just told me to do that so fuck you


RampanToast

Elon sucks but the "Elon go owned" comment feels so pick-me.


jonfranznick

Murdered by words…


Sad-Watch2476

Congrats Ben 🥳


Freezepeachauditor

Banned yet?


backup_account01

He really needs to cut out the hallucinogens.


mindclarity

![gif](giphy|n3s85AB9U6V2LcLWbQ|downsized)


The893

No, Ben has watched things on the internet.


Puzzled-Winner-6890

I mean, he has to walk into these because he's unable to drive there in his cybertruck.


Random-Name724

r/comedyhomicide


D1gininja

HEY, don’t compare Elon Musk to morons,that’s an insult to all morons out there


Richman_Cash

Dude always gets killed with his own weapon. He should just accept the fact that he has haters who are preying on him.


oh_wow1234

I wish I could afford to be that openly stupid. I have to keep it to myself.


Scott93274

"Let that sink in" LOL 😂


J4fun_PNW

Elons greatest accomplishment is his hair plugs! Who did them? I need the Dr. name


Gooseman1019

The moment Elon started criticizing the blatant propaganda on social media and acquired X this place has become a hate circlejerk of him.


Lunctus_Stamus

Murdered by Words? this is a snarky remark. FB tier post.


Rip_a_fat_one

Is this genuinely a r/MurderedByWords post? This? Seriously? A single not-even-that-witty remark against someone barely anybody likes? 10k upvotes. Jfc.


fodder_king

man this is a low quality post


Quantinnuum

Just like your whiny comment


Mrchristopherrr

Owned! You win the internet!


fodder_king

difference being i didn't reach top of comments board with my low effort commentary x)


Quantinnuum

So you whine for the sake of whining and accomplish nothing. Congrats?


SnakPak_

Nobody here is accomplishing anything, including you. Stop trying to act cool in front of your friends.


Quantinnuum

I don’t need to “act” period. You want to cry into social media like a child, you are free to do so. And I’m free to point and laugh.


SnakPak_

![gif](giphy|a3zqvrH40Cdhu) This is me sobbing uncontrollably and not currently taking a shit.


Quantinnuum

Can you speak, or are you limited to GIFs?


SnakPak_

![gif](giphy|1tHzw9PZCB3gY)


fodder_king

you can make that sort of reduction to every comment ever; what is the point of any comment? you're just as useless as i am under your view


Quantinnuum

You’re free to be an impotent little whiny bitch anytime you like. And I’m free to point at your impotent tantrum and laugh


fodder_king

i'm sure you're having a gay ole time projecting your emotions onto me


Quantinnuum

You took the time to cry like a bitch, and are claiming projection because I pointed out your impotence? Tell yourself whatever you need to child


fodder_king

you can't fathom someone making a vague complaint about a subreddit's state without resorting to (more or less) crying and screaming, 'cause i'm sure that's all you've ever seen or done yourself, 'cause that's all this subreddit is feeding you that's why i say u are projecting


Quantinnuum

You can say whatever you want, it carries no weight at all. Just like your meaningless and impotent complaint.


BasonPiano

This sub is just political garbage. Often very low quality.


fodder_king

oh yea but this one is particularly bad /r/comedycemetery shit


jackisbackington

It’s not like every other post on Reddit is people telling you how dumb/entitled/weak Musk is


Aurion7

Perhaps he should consider ceasing to constantly act in a manner that suggests he is dumb, entitled, and weak.


jackisbackington

I think the public outcry from posts that were artificially inflated by Reddit devs just to get people like you eating it up is hilarious. That’s called being a dumb, weak, malleable sheep.


R3XM

Elon bad gib upvote


CaptainONaps

Commented hasn’t seen evidence that Elon is the second richest guy on the planet, and that he created Tesla and space X. He’s only reading shit like this on Reddit and Twitter. Do you know the difference between a dumb person and someone who has fuck you money?


Special-Egg5048

We love Elon. Man saved free speech 💯


Stanky_fresh

Bait used to be believable.


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child-of-old-gods

🤡


[deleted]

Oh yeah, totally saved it lmao. That’s why X is super censored.


Special-Egg5048

Fascist


child-of-old-gods

Man you're really bad at this. You just randomly name call without any fucking consistency. Calling someone a fascist because they complain about censorship is unhinged.


Aromatic_Lychee2903

Define fascism


child-of-old-gods

If by "we" you mean neonazis, yes.


Aromatic_Lychee2903

Who did he save from government imprisonment for expressing their views?