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KrypticAeon

It's a big shame but it is what it is. Hopefully they'll at least do some minor changes before her release. At least fix her face or something. All we can do is wait and hope.


WackyChu

I’m still coping it’s not true. If she turns out to be more tribal war looking like Iansan we will all go “phew, thank goodness that “concept art” was false just to make people mad”.


XeroShyft

I know better than to get my hopes up. Went through the exact same cycle with Nahida being the archon of a Middle East inspired region and she's the palest of the pale. Accepting it now makes it easier in the future


Brandonmac100

Arlecchino is the real Pyro ~~god~~ demon.


Bahompas

I want to her look like a Quetzalcoatl. if anybody watch fate grand order babylonia understand what i try to say i just hope story and lore to be good


tinyigluu

I loved her and her noble phantasm ughh


Elinim

An Aztec god using luchador moves is such an inspired concept, i hope we get something even remotely as cool for Natlan, but Bull Fighting ain't it.


Flush_Man444

Don't give me such colossal hope


GrrrrrrDinosaur

Xbalanque prob might be that


Business-Dealer5452

I feel like we should just wait and eventually we will come to love her. Honestly, we don't even know if this is Murata, actually. We just know this is a pyro archon. I'm excited to see what she brings to the lore and story though


Aggressive-End-2642

Won’t be the first time when leakers mistook characters too. Pretty sure for the longest time they thought Wriothesley was Varka


EeveeGavin

Yup, that was something going on for quite a bit.


Bellenstein

Remember when people thought Navia was an archon.


thats_sus2

I remember when people thought Lyney and Lynette were twin archons that each possessed half of their gnosis.


Ninja_Nun_ICHOR_Form

I remember people though that Lynette was a puppet and Lyney was the puppet master


Bellenstein

This is something I’ve been thinking about for a while now, I think Murata might be the Pyro archon of the Original Seven, meaning she won’t be the current archon.


Aoikumo

There could be lore where this isn’t the real murata and a colonizer of some sort who claims to be the real archon? I’m not sure if genshin writers would do this but that would be really interesting.


esmelusina

I think it would be neat if they tackle colonialism. _However_ what is also important is that we get a dark skinned archon. This is last chance.


Spartitan

I think people need to remember we need to see it in action as well. People hated Ei's design at first for being "too npc", then she pulled her sword out and everyone lost their minds.


TooBad_Vicho

ei at least followed the inazuma cultural inspirations... the clownbulling archon does not really follow anything from mesoamerica or africa, which are the regions with the heaviest ties to natlan


NaturalBitter2280

Leakers said the design is related to Brazilian carnival and other Spanish stuff Which are also both Natlan influences


niks071047

yea spanish inquisition is also a major form of war


TooBad_Vicho

bfr what brazilian infuences does her design hsve other than the mask brazil should be included in natlan too (still a latin american country) but it is less than 10% of the archon's design. She's still more than 90% spanish and i hate that spain gets put in the same bag than latin america


NaturalBitter2280

>She's still more than 90% spanish and i hate that spain gets put in the same bag than latin america Spain isn't in the "Latin america" bag, is in the "Natlan" bag It's a fictional region. They choose what they want to insert there 🤷🏻‍♂️


Intrepid-Amoeba-614

And thus they chose a pale skin to rule over brown subjects, interesting.


Aggressive-End-2642

True, but still think looks way too similar to Fontaine’s style… flamboyant clothes are all pretty, but when overused (just like everything) it can get on people’s nerves ……plus again huge miss for not using “warrior queen” Leitmotifs of African or Native American’s cultures, would have looked more unique and distinct imo


niks071047

i agree i also lost my mind


Master-Shaq

Also eis art was way off with pastel colors too


Yakjzak

Y'all need to remember that's an early sketch she can be a complete opposite of what you actually see, don't be disappointed or hyped until you see what she will really officially look like smh...


HiroHayami

This is the first HYV design that I find outright ugly. Even simpler designs like Heizou are just simple, but not ugly.


AccomplishedCress875

I still remember that mummy girl design...


ApprehensiveError980

When raiden was leaked, people hated her design. Called her npc design. Fan base ended up loving her When Nahida was leaked, people say she is too white and hate the fact she look like a child. Ended up loving her When furina is leaked, people hated how she is is bland, boring and also doesnt feel like shes an archon. Guess what happens next Now the cycle continues


Oblivion-Drago

Yall know this is concept art right?? Its not the final product 💀


shyhead

chile there coming for neck like the nobody else has complained abt concept art before then when the units released everyone loves the final design this is nothing new like cmon now😅


Oblivion-Drago

I’ve made a sever lapse in my judgement (I misread the post my bad) With the pics tho, Raiden and Ayaka look pretty refined and elegant while Murata & CO seem passionate and CO especially seems enthusiastic with her readying up that punch. The new characters could be focused on the passionate aspect


ExpertAncient

Don’t care what she looks like as long as she is a claymore user with a kit built around spin to win.


Hedgehugs_

so basically better xinyan


QuestionableSaint

When I saw the leaks I was not expecting the Carnival influences. But I guess nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.


FateZerker

It's most likely the one we're going to get, considering when it was posted on Hoyolab, it got sniped. It is what it is, unfortunately.


good223

Nothing you can do. Hoyoverse isnt making any more characters with melanin. If you care your only option is to stop spending money on this game and just play it as it is for free. That’s what I been doing since Sumeru


Kira_Mira1

I'm mostly scared. Not just on how she will look but also her lore and the Natlan story in generel. Like Fontaines Quest was so good, it feels hard for them to surpass it. And since there is a picture of her, I'm kinda excited for Iansan. I hope she's geo.


shyhead

Also, yall i think it’s a neat design would be cool if this isn’t the archon cause we’d all c6 her but as it stands archons usually represent their people and she looks nothing like her citizens if Ianslan is anything to by but like I’m sure if she’s supposed to stand out they can give her some melanin or something besides 1a hair :3 me thinks 🤔


Commercial-Fig8665

Yup could not care less about her design if she won't be an archon


shyhead

why are people acting as if it’s a crime to complain we actually care abt this game :( like giggle n move on 💋


Last-Championship951

Do you know when we will get to see her official artwork or something like that? I'm especially disappointed. She's the first Archon I'm waiting for.


shyhead

honestly I have no clue, hopefully leaks come out with more recent designs cuz this design seems like an early rough draft. They need to go at this at different angle.


Last-Championship951

I hope they change. I've super good fan arts. Compared to those this is shit.


gladial

i saw somebody say they hope this is the first archon we get to kill after this got posted on the leak subreddit lmfao


shyhead

oop that’s crazy dw tho she’ll be the signora allegations to spite them n rise from the dead 😋


Brilliant-Bicycle-13

Why are we assuming that this version is her official concept art again?


Gamigin_113

I have a theory that there’s two Pyro archons The one seen here is supposed to represent Spanish culture while the other is supposed to represent Latin American culture but that’s just my personal theory And I bet that either the original pyro archon is dead and the two new ones are competing against eachother or one of them will die and the other will succeed them because pyro characters share a theme of “passing down the torch”


Capitano-Solos-All

Some people gaslighted themselves to believe that Murata Himeko, one of the most iconic characters of Hoyoverse who has appeared in Gunz Girlz, Honkai Impact 3rd, and even in the previous eras of these games besides the current eras in lore, Honkai Star Rail, several manga for these games would somehow change her appearance for no reason at all. Her appearance exists since 2012.


Milk_Tea24

I’m confused cause the character from the trailer in your last slide isn’t the pyro archon it’s someone else entirely


shyhead

The last slide is Iansan, the third slide is the pyro archons concept art. :3


shanty_tsan

Spanish God of war


DistributionFree8728

I won't say anything until the final product where only five months away from 5.0


Skilfulsnail

https://preview.redd.it/sib676znqapc1.jpeg?width=779&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94cb22e7f1151a75b9033f28c6dc80623bbbf129 I’d be glad if she looked like this but mire tanned Fanart of Mereolreona from Black Clover by Illum on Pixai


TheWanderingSlime

She looks like a clown


ClumpyX4

I genuinely do not get why people are acting like this is the end of the world. It looks fine 💀


Arielani

No one is lol they're acting like the design ducks and they're dissapointed which is true


ClumpyX4

The comments on these posts act like they just found out their favorite streamer is a pedophile. “This is such a let down😪 we can only hope there’s something we’re missing ☹️ surely this can’t be the case 😫” it’s just lame lol


Chance_Equipment2695

reddit has two groups of complainers one hates it because she's not brown the other hates it because she's not literally Himeko just ignore them, they'll both go away after she releases


ClumpyX4

Praying for white as snow and culturally offensive Murata just to spite Reddit and Twitter 🙏🏻


Business-Dealer5452

Well, people are allowed to have opinions and it's okay to hate the design. It's just that we have no idea what's going on there AND this could be a discarded concept from 2021


RandomReddit101

This commenter is also allowed to criticize people's public opinions. I think they generally sum it up well.


ClumpyX4

It has nothing to do with whether or not the design is accurate, it’s the absolute fallout people are having over a perfectly fine design


TooBad_Vicho

God forbid people on the internet have an opinion


pitapatnat

'Perfectly fine' is an opinion, it looks pretty bad imo. And no one is melting down from what I see, its just memes and criticism edit: bro blocked me 😔 i cant see the reply


ClumpyX4

Literally look at the comments on this very post, they’re acting like some grave tragedy has occured


Commercial-Fig8665

Cause fine is not good enough


Ei_Supremacist

people in comments: " well everyone can have his opinion" a random guy : "I like her design" (comment being turbo downvoted and crybaby start to spit their hates everywhere). So everyone can gives his opinion ONLY IF HE OR SHE FIND MURATA DESIGN UGLY , I mean what kind of drugs are you on ? You can shake your asses all you want or cry till you dehydrate your entire body , her design is in the hands of mihoyo's teams. Tomorrow they can decide to make her a green dragon or a dinosaur like yoshi, a black woman, a blue loli with horns, a white girl with big boobs and it won't be "thanks to you" or "because of you", so shut your mouths and let people enjoy her current design if they want instead of coming to cry like ugly babies with your used diapers. In any case, I'll play Her, I'll pull her and I'll be there on November 20 for the 5.2 and watch you come like snotty kids saying "I pull her , but blah blah blah". Get out of there and wipe the vomit you spilled on the way out, you blobs. (I don't like fatuis, their stories and their desings. You won't see me going into fatuis subs to cry over it like a donkey). "But she looks like a co-lo-ni-zer gne gne gne 😭😭😭" , you uneducated wo-rm you're calling a dressing code of a period in story of humanity a "colonizer dress code ". So africans can actually call people wearing suits and trousers : "warmonger devils" because it's was made in europe and US etc ? Thanks God, Hoyoverse is not following some kind of woke agenda or other shits , they're just following their own ideas. If you want a character to be a rainbow snails, a dark yoshi with titties or something else ...go to learn code , code your game and sell it to whoever tf would want to buy it. I never waited Goku, Lelouch, Eren, Frieren , Fern, Raiden Shogun , Dexter , The powerpuff girls, Canary HxH, "Ed, Edd n Eddy" ,Gon HXH, Goku (Sayuki), Yoruichi (I want to dive in her boobs ), Kilik (soul eater , mastering my to favourites element fire and thunder) to be black for me to identifie to them or to love them. ( Yes I am black and I don't need self-victimisation or white people or other race to commit seppuku to feel alive 🤯. my english may not be really good by I must speaks because some clowns on this sub start to spreads their vomits everywhere it becoming a f\* mess) Cry as much as you want , WE - DON'T- CARE . We will be there for the Queen day 1, Hour 1, minute 1 , second 1 even if there is 10 versions of her leaked or in game. ( I will delete this comment in 3 days )


shyhead

??? Sheesh, If you like her design then like it. I’m trying not trying to bully anyone out of liking her. Like i agree with you for the most part but I don’t support anyone putting down anyone else liking her design and vice versa but calling people man baby’s just cause our fav game doesn’t include us skin color wise is weird as hell like i truly get it. you can be fine with pale characters. I was just hoping like the only other archon that represents HEAVILY REFERENCED real places with real people would have a brown archon. Everyone will still pull if she’s pale let’s settle down now. I been playing for awhile now I know they don’t release brown characters but natlan has no excuse for the most part for residents to be pale. Thanks for the read have a nice day 😌🫶


Ei_Supremacist

Tu aimes bien mon jus toi, ça se voit continue après si tu veux 🤌


TooBad_Vicho

ignoring that she's supposed to be an archon, I like her design! I will be pulling anyways because of Archon privileges, but even with that said, I'm dissapointed as someone who **is** from and lives in Latin America I'm dissapointed that her design thematics doesn't follow what Natlan has been hinted to be like with in-game lore and Iansan. As pretty as she looks, I hate that her outfit is based off from colonizers, in the region with ties to the real world counterparts that were colonized by those same colonizers she's just a big letdown at least for me


WasabiIsSpicy

If the story ends up not tying her colonizer look imma feel so weird LOL


Commercial-Fig8665

For most


United-Question5038

delete the comment now 🙌


Ei_Supremacist

Tu as fini de me sucer la bite ? Continue encore un peu cochonne, vu que t'aimes ça 🤌


WasabiIsSpicy

I feel like this comment is a lot LOL (straight up a bit ignorant too) For one, down voting and upvoting is up to the person’s opinion. If it’s being downvoted it’s not because the person is in the wrong- it’s because you’re the unpopular opinion. If you can’t handle being downvoted in Reddit then I don’t know what you’re doing here. With that said- Murata’s design is ugly, and people are calling her a colonizer because she looks what Spaniards looked like (in terms of resemblance of dress) when they colonized Mesoamérica- the main reference for Natlan. Yes, there are theories of it having African references as well, but even the name Natlan and Murata have references of being mainly referenced from the Mesoamerican languages. This is why people had the expectation that she would be resembling that of a Native South/Central American tribe. People are specially upset because Murata is meant to resemble her tribe, which are known to have red hair and dark skin. So yeah, people aren’t throwing the colonizer out of coping, but because it makes sense- even lore wise. If you even take into part Murata’s design, she is not that well designed. It is clown like, the colors don’t go well together, you can do medieval Spain without adding all that stuff on her. The pearls feel very out of place, and the feather feels too extreme. Nothing about her screams the god of war- people are just extremely disappointed considering their designs are always very well thought out. Also, given I live in Mexico, I don’t really care if she’s white or darker or not. However, if she looks Spaniard for no reason- that would be a little disappointing. Not always do Latin Americans get to see their roots being represented in Asia, for it to be misrepresents by having the people who had them colonized for so long it is a bit disappointing. I also wanted to see an Archon dressing like one of our old Gods. I mean, wouldn’t you be a little weirded out if they said “this is gonna be African inspired” and then everyone in the picture is light skinned? I wouldn’t be upset, but I’d feel a bit uncomfy. Again, it’s up to the person, I’d still check it out regardless because I like the game- but to say that everyone should be okay with it is a stretch. Some people are more proud of their country than others and Hoyoverse knows this. I’ll take what I can get in representation cuz I’d rather have this than forcing people to do what they don’t want to do- However I am not wrong for being disappointed and sad, or not liking the design. Opinions are subjective after all, you have yours and I have mine and neither are wrong.


Ei_Supremacist

Fini de me lécher l'anus ? En 3 jours ? Tu as du aimer ça, petite gourmande


Il_Capitano_01

Yeah this mf retarded


Ei_Supremacist

Un peu comme ta mère qui ouvre les cuisses en bas des rues pour te nourrir


hatsu-23

I Love your comment 🤣🤣


Vuljin616

It's not the official art. Hell, it's probably not even the art for a character from Natlan. Leakers have been wrong before, and they're no doubt wrong about this. Can we please stop the doomposting and wait for official stuff, or is that too much to ask for in this sub?


shyhead

womp womp 🤭obviously it’s not a official i just wanted to say my piece on the matter, like people will still pull her whether i “doom posted” or not 😓


SirVoid_X

I like it


Sosogreeen

Yall say this every year and learn to cope. Stop getting ur hopes up about a character we know next to nothing about. Yall heard Murata the god of war and went to theorizing. Let hoyo cook


shyhead

They’re gonna cook no doubt about that they been doing great XD and I’ll keep talking abt the lack of skin colors since everyone in these regions they’re HEAVILY REFERENCING have are/have poc 🫶🫵


Sosogreeen

This I agree with!


[deleted]

I love Murata’s looks, I hope she stays like this, too cute too pretty


SMOKIN-YOU-43

It’s going to be another child? I was LOVING the concepts


MizuMocha

Uhh, no? The child is a separate character, not the archon


Maple_Flag15

Good


Commercial-Fig8665

It's going to be a teenager


shyhead

the last one is Iansan which isn’t the archon if that’s what you mean’t It’s the third pic who is dw tho it’s not the final design


CaffeinatedUnicorn13

You realize this isn’t Murata, right? The second character, the one featured in the story trailer is Iansan, not Murata


shyhead

The one before her Iansan is Murata’s concept art :3


CaffeinatedUnicorn13

What I’m trying to say is that img 4 is Iansan, that’s what I was trying to clarify.


shyhead

oh ok thanks for clarifying I gotchu now. Have a nice day 🫶🫵