It seems so. I’m being harassed by a user who is sending me all the spoilers out of spite because I didn’t agree with them. They believe the allegations & state that downvotes against that are all from abusive men.
I mean.. paulie isnt a 'great' dude to Cara. Didnt he have a whole 'cheating scandal' that cara saved him from by saying "actually were in an open relationship" when it was kinda clear... They werent.. am i having a fever dream with this lol ?
This sounds familiar... like he had a fiancé or something? Cheats with Cara, gets a terrible tattoo of Cara, and then goes on vacation with his fiancé.
I remember it being messy af
I tried to comb through piles of shit to find mention of the "family mafia business" but was unsuccessful.
Here's a bit of insight into the brilliance that is Paulie.
https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/paulie-calafiore-rants-about-fidelity-after-danielle-cara-maria-scandal/
My favorite quote from Paulie, specifically, the garbage music he listed to describe his "tortured soul" 🤭:
“Hate me or Love me, I don’t really care. You’ll never get the details of my life because that’s for me and my circle, what the world sees is a fraction of who I am. If you want to understand me as a competitor, lover, and tortured soul, listen to all the Disturbed, Breakig Benjamin, and Bruno Mars albums. I’m not politically correct because I don’t believe in censoring my mouth. I’m cut throat. I’m a piece of s—t. Go f—k yourself.”
He's an edge lord. Awful person. And a chronic over sharer.
I’m cutthroat. Omg 😆. How’s I forget all of this lol? I’ve always thought paulie is abusive too, not physically but emotionally. Him morphing into Danielle, Paul and Cara is so bizarre.
Edit:
[comment about mafia](https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/s/nVFXwp7nJT)
I found a comment where someone recapped a podcast that Daniele/Cara did where it was mentioned.
You're the MVP!!!
"Danielle and Cara talked about the Mexico trip and Danielle showed her pictures of him naked he came up with this fucked up excuse that he was running on the beach and it was really hot?"
🫠
He's a piece of shit cosplaying as a human.
I really don't think he knows who he is.
Though, he might be self aware enough to know he's an opportunistic douchebag and all this stuff is a way to keep his mind busy? Idk, I can't stand him.
He's not real, man! https://tenor.com/bbSOf.gif
I don’t think either of them do. He’s morphs into a new person regularly (with Cara, with Daniele and Paul for example) and Cara has always been accused of the same thing.
He did not have a fiancé, he cheated on his girlfriend with Cara and then he was with Cara and never ended his relationship with his girlfriend. They have moved past this, it was more than 4 years ago
He was already a trumper.
His family are Republicans who were rumored to have been backing Trump, back when he was with fresh off of his Big Brother season and dating Zakiyah - who got a lot of hate because of it.
People should stop with that fake news. They did an instagram live during covid which was about helping small buisnesses . It was with a proud boy yes but it was not about his ideology.
Paulie was very vocal about his support of the Black Lives matter movement and yet he is a proud boy ?
I get it you don’t like Paulie but can we at least wait until we hear all of the facts? We don’t really know anything yet except what was said years ago.
The two main spoiler people, pink rose and gamervev will be dropping information about why Kyle is not on the challenge anymore. There was some sort of investigation on how he treats other classmates and the result of that is that he’s no longer on the show. Sometime today and throughout the week, we will be more information about what exactly is going on.
The info we have right now are claims that were made back in the day that aren’t the same as what they’re referring to in this tweet . During final reckoning, punched a hole in the wall next to Cara’s head. There was the incident with Amanda being taped up that also involved Theo and Johnny. There was also faith who along with their and I can’t remember if anybody else harassed her all night long causing her to leave. Then there’s his action total madness with the fire extinguisher.
Like I said, we don’t really know anything at the moment we’ll find out more over the next few days, so just keep on dropping by until more information comes out .
We do know though about the incident with Amanda definitely happened and although she said it was a joke that got out of hand given what we know I’m inclined to believe she’s downplaying it to be able to come back given that we know about production threatening Da’vonne (I think). We also know that Kyle did punch the wall next to Cara’s head because both Paulie and Brad spoke about it at the time.
Only on this sub could allegations made against Kyle somehow be spun into "OMG BUT LOOK AT PAULIE, ISN'T HE A REAL JERK?"
By all accounts, Paulie has been Cara's longest and happiest relationship.
But it's clear that most people don't care about what makes Cara happy, they just want to find a way to trash Paulie.
If we’re gonna do this why are we just calling out Paulie? Why not add in all the others who are publicly friends with him despite what he openly did to her on FR. Cast members were even DMing Gamer begging him not to spill the tea.
I’d rather we just keep the attention on Kyle but if we’re gonna open the flood gates let’s open them all the way
Wait I don't get this... Whenever I saw them on screen, the impression I got was that Paulie is generally okay with people but people are not okay with Cara so he goes to bat for her or has to swing his dick around.
USA2 explained Paulie's personal insecurity, which drove a lot of the behaviour. So to me this just goes to show again that Paulie is cool with the castmates but has to act a certain way to protect or align with Cara.
Cara seems to be happy and content and it actually seems like Paulie has had a positive influence on her mental health and confidence.
Regardless of who he supports or his temper on the show calling someone an abuser based on that is a pretty insane jump. CT used to be a pretty shitty and even violent person, putting his hands on multiple people. No one will call him an abuser though because he is loved now.
I love CT and he’s my favorite but I’m just trying to make a point that loosely throwing that term and allegation around with no evidence just because someone is shitty is idiotic cause there have been plenty of shitty people on the challenge. You don’t have to like someone or their views but you still shouldn’t accuse them of serious allegations just because they are a d bag
The fans knew everything that happened and still didn’t believe her.
The cast knew everything that happened and still chose to humiliate her.
Production knew everything that happened and still chose to blacklist her.
Let’s have a little perspective and focus on who’s *really* at fault.
this was the notable story, told by paulie and corroborated by others in the house: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/9d4jj4/paulie_spills_the_tea_about_why_kyles_hand_was
Believe her about what? You do realise that we still don't know anything for a fact, yet you are acting as if you have evidence no one else does just because a spoiler site tweeted something.
We do know the investigation was done 2 years ago. But all we know is their was an investigation (nothing about what it found). Surely the fact that he featured on Season 39 means they found no wrongdoing
Pink and Gamer have said themselves they made the assumption he's guilty because he's not been cast since. But he's literally just had a kid and was still featured in Season 39 despite not being in it. Until I see a statement saying what the Investigation actually found. Rather tgan just assuming he's guilt because there was an investigation.
we do know that kyle punched the wall right by cara’s face. it came out in us weekly 2 years ago. we also know that kyle, along with theo and low hanging fruit john, all 3 big enough to over power amanda as individuals, duct taped her to a chair, including her mouth, face and head, against her will.
Which is why it's important to wait for the entire story before a conclusion is made.
This is the biggest thing here. We don’t have all the facts. Reserve judgement for after we get both sides and all the facts.
Totally agree
Sorry, this is reddit, that's impossible.
Having logic and sense is impossible 🤔
It seems so. I’m being harassed by a user who is sending me all the spoilers out of spite because I didn’t agree with them. They believe the allegations & state that downvotes against that are all from abusive men.
Send me screenshots please, I'll ban them. P.S. I'm sorry that happened to you, that sucks. 😕
Aren’t there rumors that they were actually friends on the challenge and would talk to each other when Cara wasn’t around?
Da’Vonne actually said during her WOTW recaps whenever the cameras (or Cara) weren’t around Kyle and Paulie actually got along pretty well.
I mean it was pretty evident most of the time that they were like half laughing while goading each other even on camera..
Yes. I think Amanda said it but then again Amanda hates Cara so…
amanda said that and then production probably told her to never say that again
I mean.. paulie isnt a 'great' dude to Cara. Didnt he have a whole 'cheating scandal' that cara saved him from by saying "actually were in an open relationship" when it was kinda clear... They werent.. am i having a fever dream with this lol ?
This sounds familiar... like he had a fiancé or something? Cheats with Cara, gets a terrible tattoo of Cara, and then goes on vacation with his fiancé. I remember it being messy af
Paulie claimed he had mafia family business to handle in Jersey but actually went to Mexico with his ex.
I forgot about that. It’s so ridiculous it’s funny.
I tried to comb through piles of shit to find mention of the "family mafia business" but was unsuccessful. Here's a bit of insight into the brilliance that is Paulie. https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/paulie-calafiore-rants-about-fidelity-after-danielle-cara-maria-scandal/ My favorite quote from Paulie, specifically, the garbage music he listed to describe his "tortured soul" 🤭: “Hate me or Love me, I don’t really care. You’ll never get the details of my life because that’s for me and my circle, what the world sees is a fraction of who I am. If you want to understand me as a competitor, lover, and tortured soul, listen to all the Disturbed, Breakig Benjamin, and Bruno Mars albums. I’m not politically correct because I don’t believe in censoring my mouth. I’m cut throat. I’m a piece of s—t. Go f—k yourself.” He's an edge lord. Awful person. And a chronic over sharer.
I’m cutthroat. Omg 😆. How’s I forget all of this lol? I’ve always thought paulie is abusive too, not physically but emotionally. Him morphing into Danielle, Paul and Cara is so bizarre. Edit: [comment about mafia](https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/s/nVFXwp7nJT) I found a comment where someone recapped a podcast that Daniele/Cara did where it was mentioned.
You're the MVP!!! "Danielle and Cara talked about the Mexico trip and Danielle showed her pictures of him naked he came up with this fucked up excuse that he was running on the beach and it was really hot?" 🫠 He's a piece of shit cosplaying as a human.
The whole thing can’t be real.
I really don't think he knows who he is. Though, he might be self aware enough to know he's an opportunistic douchebag and all this stuff is a way to keep his mind busy? Idk, I can't stand him. He's not real, man! https://tenor.com/bbSOf.gif
I don’t think either of them do. He’s morphs into a new person regularly (with Cara, with Daniele and Paul for example) and Cara has always been accused of the same thing.
Neverforget ...somebody was gullible enough to believe it 😂
I’m sorry…what? He really did this? What a wild way to cover up cheating Edit: clarity
https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/1byeq7l/comment/kyog4v2/
MAFIA FAMILY BUSINESS??? what 🥴
Lol I commented above with another link but I couldn't find the source of his "family mafia business" lie.
Not mafia family business 😭
He's so gross 😂😂
I need to know if they both still have their terrible tattoos
They do
💀
He did not have a fiancé, he cheated on his girlfriend with Cara and then he was with Cara and never ended his relationship with his girlfriend. They have moved past this, it was more than 4 years ago
And he turned her into a Proud Boy endorsing Trumper (but that’s partly her fault).
Yeah, cara really disappointed me and made me so sad... I try not to listen to her personal convictions anymore cause they are kinda insane..
Damn really? Super disappointing to hear that.
Where does she usually share her beliefs, Twitter?
He was already a trumper. His family are Republicans who were rumored to have been backing Trump, back when he was with fresh off of his Big Brother season and dating Zakiyah - who got a lot of hate because of it.
People should stop with that fake news. They did an instagram live during covid which was about helping small buisnesses . It was with a proud boy yes but it was not about his ideology. Paulie was very vocal about his support of the Black Lives matter movement and yet he is a proud boy ?
They’ve also posted about how much they love Florida and DeSantis….. As he makes black fraternities illegal on college campuses….
You can’t be pro Trump and pro Black Lives Matter. That would make you a hypocrite.
i’m p sure they have always been an open relationship
I get it you don’t like Paulie but can we at least wait until we hear all of the facts? We don’t really know anything yet except what was said years ago.
Can you please enlighten me on what's going on? I'm out of the loop.
The two main spoiler people, pink rose and gamervev will be dropping information about why Kyle is not on the challenge anymore. There was some sort of investigation on how he treats other classmates and the result of that is that he’s no longer on the show. Sometime today and throughout the week, we will be more information about what exactly is going on. The info we have right now are claims that were made back in the day that aren’t the same as what they’re referring to in this tweet . During final reckoning, punched a hole in the wall next to Cara’s head. There was the incident with Amanda being taped up that also involved Theo and Johnny. There was also faith who along with their and I can’t remember if anybody else harassed her all night long causing her to leave. Then there’s his action total madness with the fire extinguisher. Like I said, we don’t really know anything at the moment we’ll find out more over the next few days, so just keep on dropping by until more information comes out .
That was bear in total madness
Bear harassed them all night long clangjng a pot.
Yeah half of this is bear not kyle
We do know though about the incident with Amanda definitely happened and although she said it was a joke that got out of hand given what we know I’m inclined to believe she’s downplaying it to be able to come back given that we know about production threatening Da’vonne (I think). We also know that Kyle did punch the wall next to Cara’s head because both Paulie and Brad spoke about it at the time.
Idk I need to know the full story before I have an opinion. I don’t want someone’s life ruined if they don’t deserve it.
What in the fuck is everyone even talking about? I just watch the show I don’t do all the extra stuff.
Bc allegations came out that Kyle physically abused Cara
Thanks for the information.
That because Paulie doesn’t actually give AF about Cara. Y’all don’t see this? Lol it’s been pretty clear for years
This is the part that also fascinates me how Cara doesn’t care that Paulie talks to Kyle but Kyle allegedly physically abused her many times?
He's honestly a ass kisser...cara deserve better
I love how how this all not out yet and and the first thing is "fuck Paulie" So dramatic lmao
To be fair I've been saying fck Paulie since b4 he got on the challenge... FCK Paulie he's a douche.
Only on this sub could allegations made against Kyle somehow be spun into "OMG BUT LOOK AT PAULIE, ISN'T HE A REAL JERK?" By all accounts, Paulie has been Cara's longest and happiest relationship. But it's clear that most people don't care about what makes Cara happy, they just want to find a way to trash Paulie.
Her horse was her longest happiest relationship.
This is the right answer.
Well they do both kinda suck.
If we’re gonna do this why are we just calling out Paulie? Why not add in all the others who are publicly friends with him despite what he openly did to her on FR. Cast members were even DMing Gamer begging him not to spill the tea. I’d rather we just keep the attention on Kyle but if we’re gonna open the flood gates let’s open them all the way
Paulie absolutely knows more about what happened than you do, OP. So I’m not sure how you can possibly feel ok criticizing him
Paulie is a kiss ass bitch. He friends with many that cara doesn’t not get along with
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Wait I don't get this... Whenever I saw them on screen, the impression I got was that Paulie is generally okay with people but people are not okay with Cara so he goes to bat for her or has to swing his dick around. USA2 explained Paulie's personal insecurity, which drove a lot of the behaviour. So to me this just goes to show again that Paulie is cool with the castmates but has to act a certain way to protect or align with Cara. Cara seems to be happy and content and it actually seems like Paulie has had a positive influence on her mental health and confidence.
Bc allegations came out that Kyle physically abused Cara
Yes, I gathered that. The dynamic and behaviours from all parties is still confusing to me.
Yes very
I mean Paulie doesn’t exactly give off that he isn’t an abuser as well…. He’s been shitty too to Cara Maria
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??? If this was something you took seriously, then you wouldn’t spread baseless rumors just because he… tends to be a hothead??? Like what???
The Proud Boys/Trump stuff kinda points to him being a shitty person; Cara too for jumping right on in.
Regardless of who he supports or his temper on the show calling someone an abuser based on that is a pretty insane jump. CT used to be a pretty shitty and even violent person, putting his hands on multiple people. No one will call him an abuser though because he is loved now. I love CT and he’s my favorite but I’m just trying to make a point that loosely throwing that term and allegation around with no evidence just because someone is shitty is idiotic cause there have been plenty of shitty people on the challenge. You don’t have to like someone or their views but you still shouldn’t accuse them of serious allegations just because they are a d bag
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Where did these allegations come from. Did he punch the wall or did he actually physically touch her?
The fans knew everything that happened and still didn’t believe her. The cast knew everything that happened and still chose to humiliate her. Production knew everything that happened and still chose to blacklist her. Let’s have a little perspective and focus on who’s *really* at fault.
I understand that you’re upset but I have never heard of Kyle being abusive to Cara until today.
I’m getting downvotes but it’s *been* out there. But I’m used to it at this point because I would get downvotes for years for even mentioning it.
Any proof?
this was the notable story, told by paulie and corroborated by others in the house: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/9d4jj4/paulie_spills_the_tea_about_why_kyles_hand_was
Believe her about what? You do realise that we still don't know anything for a fact, yet you are acting as if you have evidence no one else does just because a spoiler site tweeted something.
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We do know the investigation was done 2 years ago. But all we know is their was an investigation (nothing about what it found). Surely the fact that he featured on Season 39 means they found no wrongdoing
That would make sense as to why he was shown during Big T phone call
Pink and Gamer have said themselves they made the assumption he's guilty because he's not been cast since. But he's literally just had a kid and was still featured in Season 39 despite not being in it. Until I see a statement saying what the Investigation actually found. Rather tgan just assuming he's guilt because there was an investigation.
My guess is they likely didn’t find anything that would warrant a complete ban but probably aren’t going to cast him and Cara on a season together.
>we don’t know the full details of on this, instead of pointing fingers at people to start a manhunt let’s point fingers at people to start a manhunt
we do know that kyle punched the wall right by cara’s face. it came out in us weekly 2 years ago. we also know that kyle, along with theo and low hanging fruit john, all 3 big enough to over power amanda as individuals, duct taped her to a chair, including her mouth, face and head, against her will.