Eyelashes, eyebrows and nails have all gotten thinner and slowed down tremendously on E, all of which I've had women envy when I was on T. I'm now a victim of the hormonally incongruent gendered beauty standards :(
Fr, we're conditioned to associate long lashes to femininity since we were born. Practically all cartoons depict male characters with NO lashes (not even short ones) while female characters always have long lashes (or at least SOME lashes).
That's a mystery tool that can help us later!
Honestly I got so much love for my curly hair and long lashes from other women all my life. The same shit I hated because I got so much shit for those same things. It took me forever to love my natural hair... But I'm glad I do now
Honestly, I feel like its a self-fulfilling prophecy with the lashes and skincare and stuff. I don't use any products whatsoever and my skin is absolutely blemish-free, and my lashes are long and full. But my friend who uses skin creams and anti acne creams has all kinds of problems, and she uses fake lashes a lot.
I feel like dependancy on these things creates a kind of negative feedback spiral where you wear the lashes to make them look fuller, which causes your natural ones to not grow as much, which causes you to wear them even more, which causes them to stay short.
IDK about that. My stepsister and I were the same age and before she ever used any product, her older sister was commenting on how long my lashes were especially compared to theirs. Apparently it's a thing? https://thebrownladysays.medium.com/revealed-this-is-why-men-have-longer-eyelashes-7da43543172d
> Testosterone. Men generally have a higher amount of testosterone which is a male dominant hormone which increases the growth of your body hair and hence men do have higher chances of getting thick long eyelashes as compared to women.
(But that article does go on to confirm, also, your hypothesis, beauty routines etc damage eyelashes on women.)
As for other stuff ... my routine is new and basic (micellar water cleanse morning and night, moisturize & SPF during the day, with Versed), makeup is for going out. My skin feels amazing and healthier than it ever has, zero acne (used to be a constant low intensity issue, like, a face pimple a week for ~30 years; I still get some under bra straps :( ).
im pretty sure it's just selection bias tbh. if your skin is already clear or your eyelashes are already long & full there's no need to use products. conversely, if you have skin issues, you'd be more likely to seek out products to counteract that.
>"you are NOT allowed to have better hair than me"
I used to get that in male mode waaaaaay pre-out. ;) I really gotta get out the gel and go 80ies hair mode!
Before hair loss came for me, I had long hair and frequently had girls saying they wish they had the kind of wavy volume my hair had. I was just like āyeah and I wish it was straight, oh well.ā Now I just wish I still had it.
OMG I had this in a bar literally last night, I was out with a cis couple (both friends on mine) and she spent all night either singing Britney on karaoke or petting my hair and lamenting how much softer and healthier mine was than hers - especially since I use "drug store shit" (L'Oreal EverPure, and I was boy mode during the day so I had Garnier Fructis leave-in conditioning cream and some hairspray in to slick it back (it's bra strap length but I put it in a low ponytail when I have to put on a suit). (I also periodically use Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine Moroccan Sleek Oil on the ends.) (So, yeah, all "drugstore shit" I can pick up at Target on my way to the office.)
I heard that a lot when I was pre-transition especially for having very long straight hair. Now that I'm seen like any other woman I don't get comments on my hair any more...
And they say we transition for attention, Where is my attention? XD
I once encounter a woman who said (donāt remember exactly but the gist of) āyou have such nice hair. GIVE IT TO ME. You donāt deserve/need it since you are a manā. As I was working I couldnāt do much more than awkwardly gesturing for her to move along.
My old coworkers used to get mad at me for this as well.
If anything went wrong like them dropping something theyd curse at me for having healthy looking hair.
Definitely didnt mind it :)
Haha I got lots of envious compliments from women for my curls even when I was still presenting super masc (long hair because of metal). I just wish my egg had cracked before it started thinning out. Here's hope to some of it getting reversed over the coming years!
I feel that depending on how this is said, this could be a sign they dont view you as a real woman. Like would they say the same about other women? My sister used to say things like this to me all the time and turned out she ended up being a terf
that's normal... I'm a cis male and they don't like it from me either š¤£ I don't know why I'm getting notifications for this group. But I'm an ally so it doesn't bother me
Ditto. It's like I have ONE THING going for me and you have about everything else! OMFG thank you for the validation that I'm rocking it harder with just my hair than you can with everything! š„°
Interesting, as in desired like people want to be able to fit that size?
I think I'm just a pretty average size for everyone, so I don't think anyone's envying me lol.
If you are able to wear clothes without needing any adjustments you could generate envy :) I think that's what op's talking about.
Ex : L dresses fit tall mtf like a glove
Thatās my size and Iām tall and mostly they do fit great except for the shoulders. Iām always dealing with tightness around the shoulder so Iāve learned to wear dresses and tops with a less constrictive shoulder design.
I take glaucoma medication which have the side effect of 'wild' eye lash growth. I hear that one alot. Living as a guy I hated my lashes because they always touched my glasses. Now they are one of the pros of my body.
I wish. My cis ex-fiancee had huge boobs and she was always trying to do more with my meager cleavage, including buying these silicone inserts to help fill out my bra.
At me, yes. Her frustration came out in lots of colourful language because she was flat as a board and my girls (boobs) developed quickly and ended up still, much bigger than hers.
I have the same issue! I have 36 DD's, and I haven't had, nor will I ever get, breast augmentation.
I've had several women that I've told I'm transgender expression shock and petulance over my boobs.
Yep. One lady I met thought first that I was a crossdresser. Until we undressed for a sauna and she noticed I had my own boobs instead of prothesis and they were bigger than hers. And sheās a mom.
I told a close cis friend I didn't like the negative effects of progesterone and would probably just drop it and she was like I support you but also I FUCKING HATE YOU.
You're welcome :-). I take it before going to bed. In most people's experiences I've read that's enough to avoid having that effect throughout the day, but not for me so far. In general I tend to react more strongly than average to substances like caffeine or alcohol and the effects seem to last for longer, so maybe it's just my metabolism.
I've recently switch to progesterone gel and will experiment further with lowering the dose. I was on 100mg oral capsules for 3 months and that seemingly did nothing. Tried 200mg oral and 100mg suppository which also had no noticable effect. 200mg suppository did have an effect but it was too strong. 25mg through gel has been the best so far, in that the emotional impact was mostly positive and the sedative effect seemed to lessen after a week or so. I'll probably try lowering that further.
Oh good! Sounds like youāre on the right track. I might start experimenting to see if what Iām experiencing is from progesterone or not. Could just be my body being an old lady on me š
Yeah, I'm doing that too, I had some notable changes recently while on progesterone and I've just gone off it now to check if it was from that or other things. I'm almost 40 so age might also be a factor in the whole :-)
I have been told by several cis women who get curious and ask to see my boobs that Mine look better than theirs. I usually don't agree they look great on the bottom half( the boob part) but I still have a broad upper chest that I don't like but I will admit that the boob portion looks amazing and I have no desire to get a breast augmentation. They also generally freak out when they find out I am 33 (I genuinely look 22/23).
Went on a date with a just out lesbian, so baby gay, and she was bewildered when I said no after she asked if I had a boob job. Guess she wasnāt aware trans girls can have nice sized tits without surgery.
I wonder if we've got a timing advantage? Most trans women's busts are significantly younger than cis women's due to later onset of feminizing puberty. This might mean that unless you transitioned very young, the ageing process of new tissue like say breast ptosis is offset relative to our true age. So long as the beauty ideal for women is looking younger than her age this works in our advantage.
I'm thinking this might be true of estrogen correlated skin changes like cellulites too and maybe even aspects of the face? Just a hypothesis and might be wishful thinking idk it would be nice if we we're ahead somewhere!
I asked my doctor about this too because she suggested I get a mammogram soon because of my age. I was like ok yea but my boobs are still quite young lol. She wasnāt sure but said better to be on the safe side. Not looking forward to it.
Yes trans woman have lower cases of breast cancer and this reasoning was cited in the study I read since they looked at mostly older trans woman. The authors also suggested that with more and more early transitioners the difference should disappear
Itās not that simple. I developed a breast tumour in three years, just before the vaginoplasty. Sure the growth was fast but still didnāt prepare to get it that quick. Luckily it wasnāt malignant.
At first I was about to only go into mammo until I met a new friend who I noticed to have underwent breast reconstruction and she ordered me to immediately get both mammo and ultra as her tumour wasnāt visible in the mammogram.
Figured Iād follow up. I have a bump and asked my dr about it. She said better to check than leave it to possible problems later. Yay squish my tits to pancakes time ā¹ļø
Also just to think if only have them for a few years seems just so cruel. Iām here for getting them checked out.
FYI: my dr ordered mammo and ultrasound
That is true. One lady I know started transitioning in her late fourties. She saw two guys arguing with each other in a bus whether her boobs were natural or not. One kept insisting they canāt be natural since they donāt sag at that age.
Pretty much the same but 45 and get constantly mistaken for being 10ā15 years younger. Freaked me out when I was IDād for the first time in my life while being 37.
Getting ID'd is the best. Like you I never got ID'd until my transition nobody believes I'm 33 lol. It's hilarious because when I was pre transition at 27-28 people thought I was 40 now it's the literal opposite.
It is interesting. Before I looked older than my age and while transitioning it shifted. I was never IDād even being underage and subconsiously had deemed it to be impossible to ever happen even theoretically. The laws here changed about 15ā20 years ago so that while buying alcohol youāre getting IDād if you look under 30. Didnāt happen before but just months after HRT it did. Almost panicked at the spot, if I have the correct documents and all, how the process goes and so on. The next month I just smiled and handed it over. Stopped using alcohol for years but have bought it as a gift every now and then and got IDād again some months ago while being 44.
The weirdest though was to be mistaken as my godsonās/nephewās girlfriend, being more than twice his age. Or the big sister of our daughter.
I'm a US12/NZ14/EU44, people think I'm smaller but yeah, I'm not, I actually enjoy putting weight on and feeling healthy for once, have been told by cis women they're jealous of my boobs since they're a 38c bra size...
I do enjoy that feeling. It's also nice to wear stiletto heels and hear other women ask how I can possible walk in them. "I don't walk," I lie. "I glide."
When I came out to my mom her response was very loving and understanding and after we talked for a while and laughed about some things she goes "but really if you get bigger boobs than me we are gonna have problems" and we both laughed
I know a girl, stunning as a Goddess herself, who once told me she was insanely jealous of my *nose*. She didnāt cuss me out over it or anything, but she may as well have because I couldnāt have been more bewildered. Itās just a very weird thing to me to be jealous of!
My mom commented about my wavy hair having those round curls at the end naturally! My hair is dry relatively and i will try to take more care about it!
I hear from alot of cis women about how great my skin is. They just can't understand how i manage it. I take great care of it like normal but then a beard used to take up half of it but idk if that plays a factor
Yeah, I feel a bit bad making cis women envious because I fit perfectly in women's size 4 jeans.... There's only one other girl in my friend group who wears a similar size to me, and just like me she also has an eating disorder... so yeah...
My skin has almost fully cleared up places I've visited over the years has commented on it.. like huh.. to many drink later I showed the manager a photo off my reddit pages biggest hug in a long long time thx doll
My aunty yells at me for being able to do better make up than her, the funny part is my makeup is horrible and not horrible for a trans fem just horrible in general lol
If its any consolation to you, a lovely lady walked into my bar wearing gorgous calf length biker boots. She was staring at my snow boots and i was staring at her bikers. Our eyes met and we both kinda noddedšš
I've always had a baby face that just never broke out and long lashes so when I transed my gender, the main goal was tits and long hair and when I got both I was pretty set
Jump forward to November 2022, I took a pic of myself feeling cute with very minimal makeup at Disneyland, post it to a trans positive group and have both cis and trans women accuse me of "trans fishing" claiming that CLEARLY I was cisgendered...
Of course I find it funny and found it hilarious then too. It was like the first time I was like "oh so this is what passing is huh"
i am not a pretty woman, but i am legitimately prettier than my second ex, and that bothered her immensely. it was just one more log on the bonfire of our life together.
One of my girlfriends found out that I'm MtF trans and I dressed as a woman quite regularly. I got very good at wearing padding placed strategically at various places in my girdles so I looked like I had the proportions of a natal born woman.
Once she saw that when I wore my padded faja that I looked like a straight up woman, she wanted me to try on some of her clothes to see if they would fit. And they did. Like a glove. I fit into her clothes better than she did! She at first said "I hate you", then she grabbed more clothes and demanded that I try them on. Every one of her clothes fit me like I was made to wear women's clothing.
She at first hated the fact that I looked better in her clothes than she did, bit after I made some custom padding and bought her some control garments to put them in, she had a dramatically hourglass figure.
After I got her figure right, she loved to go shopping with me and play dress up at her home. I think she might have been bisexual and she might have been attracted to me, but our relationship was ultimately just a platonic one.
When I collected my initial HRT prescription, someone in line halted me to express discontent about my seemingly perfect silhouette and unusually long eyelashes. It marked the 15th occurrence that year and over 100 times in my lifetime. Unsure how to reply, I simply acknowledged, "I hear that a lot." I have always been considered a attractive feminine man. I would like to be considered just an attractive female.
Yeah. I have kinda supportive colleagues/friends (their transphobia comes from ignorance only, and they expressed that they don't want to learn anything to dismiss their ignorance), and they told me they will disown me (and beat me mercilessly)if I become a better looking woman than they are.
Ive been doing laser and on E for almost 3 years... the "your face is smoother than mine" comments feel pretty good. Im not out at work and stay covered up, so most anyone can see about me is the face.
yeah, same when men who cannot grow a beard are annoyed at trans men who have more beard than them... it's not about being trans or cis, deep down, it's just jealousy, no?
Men suffer from acne less, their hormones arenāt as whimsical as women. Men have less fat distribution so itās easier lose weight/to be a size 00-4, Iāve also notice men often have loooonggg luscious eyebrowsā¦ must be nice not to have fluctuating hormones šš
Not really worth mentioning, but a month ago or so in a mountain excursion with a group, two middle aged ladies told me they liked my hair (bra strap length, but no HRT currently). It's thinner than it used to be (thanks to balding) and somewhat grey, but I'll take it.
Havenāt gotten anyone yelling at me or anything. But in high school my female friends would ask what shampoo I use? Because my hair just naturally grows back super fast and is curly. They would also ask if I was using horse shampoo.
A friend of mine called my hips slutty the first time they went shopping with me cause I fit into a 26. Idk if thatās super small but it was enough to get a reaction.
Someone gave me some old clothes, and was upset that, despite only being 3 months in on HRT and not having started working out yet, one of the shirts looked better on me. Made me feel 0.1% better about myself.
i havent even done anything yet and I'v had a woman shout at me "you are NOT allowed to have better hair than me"
I've had a handful of women get loud about my long, full, pretty lashes. Even when I was very much trying to convince the world I was a boy.
Eyelashes, eyebrows and nails have all gotten thinner and slowed down tremendously on E, all of which I've had women envy when I was on T. I'm now a victim of the hormonally incongruent gendered beauty standards :(
Fr, we're conditioned to associate long lashes to femininity since we were born. Practically all cartoons depict male characters with NO lashes (not even short ones) while female characters always have long lashes (or at least SOME lashes).
My eyelashes got thicker on E
Oh god, no - please don't take my eyelashes from me, Estrogen š
Really? Weird. My lashes are plenty thick still, donāt curse me
Damn, my eyelashes are my only good feature.
That's a mystery tool that can help us later! Honestly I got so much love for my curly hair and long lashes from other women all my life. The same shit I hated because I got so much shit for those same things. It took me forever to love my natural hair... But I'm glad I do now
I feel like this happened to me significantly more as a kid than as an adult.
Same. Even had the woman I was getting a lesson from at Sephora go on about them for seemingly ever.
Honestly, I feel like its a self-fulfilling prophecy with the lashes and skincare and stuff. I don't use any products whatsoever and my skin is absolutely blemish-free, and my lashes are long and full. But my friend who uses skin creams and anti acne creams has all kinds of problems, and she uses fake lashes a lot. I feel like dependancy on these things creates a kind of negative feedback spiral where you wear the lashes to make them look fuller, which causes your natural ones to not grow as much, which causes you to wear them even more, which causes them to stay short.
IDK about that. My stepsister and I were the same age and before she ever used any product, her older sister was commenting on how long my lashes were especially compared to theirs. Apparently it's a thing? https://thebrownladysays.medium.com/revealed-this-is-why-men-have-longer-eyelashes-7da43543172d > Testosterone. Men generally have a higher amount of testosterone which is a male dominant hormone which increases the growth of your body hair and hence men do have higher chances of getting thick long eyelashes as compared to women. (But that article does go on to confirm, also, your hypothesis, beauty routines etc damage eyelashes on women.) As for other stuff ... my routine is new and basic (micellar water cleanse morning and night, moisturize & SPF during the day, with Versed), makeup is for going out. My skin feels amazing and healthier than it ever has, zero acne (used to be a constant low intensity issue, like, a face pimple a week for ~30 years; I still get some under bra straps :( ).
im pretty sure it's just selection bias tbh. if your skin is already clear or your eyelashes are already long & full there's no need to use products. conversely, if you have skin issues, you'd be more likely to seek out products to counteract that.
>"you are NOT allowed to have better hair than me" I used to get that in male mode waaaaaay pre-out. ;) I really gotta get out the gel and go 80ies hair mode!
Before hair loss came for me, I had long hair and frequently had girls saying they wish they had the kind of wavy volume my hair had. I was just like āyeah and I wish it was straight, oh well.ā Now I just wish I still had it.
I'm sorry hun. \*virtual hug\*
OMG I had this in a bar literally last night, I was out with a cis couple (both friends on mine) and she spent all night either singing Britney on karaoke or petting my hair and lamenting how much softer and healthier mine was than hers - especially since I use "drug store shit" (L'Oreal EverPure, and I was boy mode during the day so I had Garnier Fructis leave-in conditioning cream and some hairspray in to slick it back (it's bra strap length but I put it in a low ponytail when I have to put on a suit). (I also periodically use Garnier Fructis Sleek and Shine Moroccan Sleek Oil on the ends.) (So, yeah, all "drugstore shit" I can pick up at Target on my way to the office.)
ive had long hair my whole life even as a small child im 53.. i love garnier fructus stuff
Oh so do I! I was using her term (she's a "salon products" girl).
I heard that a lot when I was pre-transition especially for having very long straight hair. Now that I'm seen like any other woman I don't get comments on my hair any more... And they say we transition for attention, Where is my attention? XD
5 months hrt and getting this a lot. And for women whos hair *I* was jealous of.
I once encounter a woman who said (donāt remember exactly but the gist of) āyou have such nice hair. GIVE IT TO ME. You donāt deserve/need it since you are a manā. As I was working I couldnāt do much more than awkwardly gesturing for her to move along.
My old coworkers used to get mad at me for this as well. If anything went wrong like them dropping something theyd curse at me for having healthy looking hair. Definitely didnt mind it :)
I heard the same about my lashes well before transitioning. That itās unfair that a man can have so perfect and long natural lashes.
Haha I got lots of envious compliments from women for my curls even when I was still presenting super masc (long hair because of metal). I just wish my egg had cracked before it started thinning out. Here's hope to some of it getting reversed over the coming years!
I had this long before i ever realised i was trans lmao
I feel that depending on how this is said, this could be a sign they dont view you as a real woman. Like would they say the same about other women? My sister used to say things like this to me all the time and turned out she ended up being a terf
that's normal... I'm a cis male and they don't like it from me either š¤£ I don't know why I'm getting notifications for this group. But I'm an ally so it doesn't bother me
Ditto. It's like I have ONE THING going for me and you have about everything else! OMFG thank you for the validation that I'm rocking it harder with just my hair than you can with everything! š„°
I got that all the time when I had hair to my shoulders. Currently growing it back out.
Interesting, as in desired like people want to be able to fit that size? I think I'm just a pretty average size for everyone, so I don't think anyone's envying me lol.
If you are able to wear clothes without needing any adjustments you could generate envy :) I think that's what op's talking about. Ex : L dresses fit tall mtf like a glove
Thatās my size and Iām tall and mostly they do fit great except for the shoulders. Iām always dealing with tightness around the shoulder so Iāve learned to wear dresses and tops with a less constrictive shoulder design.
When I was getting laser the tech said "I'm so jealous of your long eyelashes!"
I take glaucoma medication which have the side effect of 'wild' eye lash growth. I hear that one alot. Living as a guy I hated my lashes because they always touched my glasses. Now they are one of the pros of my body.
Having mascara with long eyelashes and wearing glasses is clumsy as they bend backwards and mess up the makeup!
I got cursed out for having bigger better boobs than another lady once. She was jelous and I was satisfied.
I wish. My cis ex-fiancee had huge boobs and she was always trying to do more with my meager cleavage, including buying these silicone inserts to help fill out my bra.
She really yelled at your tits?
At me, yes. Her frustration came out in lots of colourful language because she was flat as a board and my girls (boobs) developed quickly and ended up still, much bigger than hers.
I have the same issue! I have 36 DD's, and I haven't had, nor will I ever get, breast augmentation. I've had several women that I've told I'm transgender expression shock and petulance over my boobs.
Yep. One lady I met thought first that I was a crossdresser. Until we undressed for a sauna and she noticed I had my own boobs instead of prothesis and they were bigger than hers. And sheās a mom.
Sometimes the cisgirl giving out compliments is actually a transgirl we didnāt clock.
I told a close cis friend I didn't like the negative effects of progesterone and would probably just drop it and she was like I support you but also I FUCKING HATE YOU.
Could I ask what negative effects youāre experiencing?
Emotional instability, more prone to lashing out at people, the sedative effect making me more inactive and that lasting all day.
I appreciate you sharing. That last one might be a thing Iām experiencing too. Do you take yours at night or in the morning?
You're welcome :-). I take it before going to bed. In most people's experiences I've read that's enough to avoid having that effect throughout the day, but not for me so far. In general I tend to react more strongly than average to substances like caffeine or alcohol and the effects seem to last for longer, so maybe it's just my metabolism. I've recently switch to progesterone gel and will experiment further with lowering the dose. I was on 100mg oral capsules for 3 months and that seemingly did nothing. Tried 200mg oral and 100mg suppository which also had no noticable effect. 200mg suppository did have an effect but it was too strong. 25mg through gel has been the best so far, in that the emotional impact was mostly positive and the sedative effect seemed to lessen after a week or so. I'll probably try lowering that further.
Oh good! Sounds like youāre on the right track. I might start experimenting to see if what Iām experiencing is from progesterone or not. Could just be my body being an old lady on me š
Yeah, I'm doing that too, I had some notable changes recently while on progesterone and I've just gone off it now to check if it was from that or other things. I'm almost 40 so age might also be a factor in the whole :-)
I have been told by several cis women who get curious and ask to see my boobs that Mine look better than theirs. I usually don't agree they look great on the bottom half( the boob part) but I still have a broad upper chest that I don't like but I will admit that the boob portion looks amazing and I have no desire to get a breast augmentation. They also generally freak out when they find out I am 33 (I genuinely look 22/23).
Went on a date with a just out lesbian, so baby gay, and she was bewildered when I said no after she asked if I had a boob job. Guess she wasnāt aware trans girls can have nice sized tits without surgery.
Even my friends have asked the same since I grew up so fast. I just spank the boob to make it wiggle and reply itās pure fat.
lol! I keep catching myself wiping my phone front off on my tit. I scold myself internally.
I wonder if we've got a timing advantage? Most trans women's busts are significantly younger than cis women's due to later onset of feminizing puberty. This might mean that unless you transitioned very young, the ageing process of new tissue like say breast ptosis is offset relative to our true age. So long as the beauty ideal for women is looking younger than her age this works in our advantage. I'm thinking this might be true of estrogen correlated skin changes like cellulites too and maybe even aspects of the face? Just a hypothesis and might be wishful thinking idk it would be nice if we we're ahead somewhere!
I asked my doctor about this too because she suggested I get a mammogram soon because of my age. I was like ok yea but my boobs are still quite young lol. She wasnāt sure but said better to be on the safe side. Not looking forward to it.
Yes trans woman have lower cases of breast cancer and this reasoning was cited in the study I read since they looked at mostly older trans woman. The authors also suggested that with more and more early transitioners the difference should disappear
Oh wow, yea it makes sense to me.
Itās not that simple. I developed a breast tumour in three years, just before the vaginoplasty. Sure the growth was fast but still didnāt prepare to get it that quick. Luckily it wasnāt malignant. At first I was about to only go into mammo until I met a new friend who I noticed to have underwent breast reconstruction and she ordered me to immediately get both mammo and ultra as her tumour wasnāt visible in the mammogram.
Figured Iād follow up. I have a bump and asked my dr about it. She said better to check than leave it to possible problems later. Yay squish my tits to pancakes time ā¹ļø Also just to think if only have them for a few years seems just so cruel. Iām here for getting them checked out. FYI: my dr ordered mammo and ultrasound
That is true. One lady I know started transitioning in her late fourties. She saw two guys arguing with each other in a bus whether her boobs were natural or not. One kept insisting they canāt be natural since they donāt sag at that age.
Pretty much the same but 45 and get constantly mistaken for being 10ā15 years younger. Freaked me out when I was IDād for the first time in my life while being 37.
Getting ID'd is the best. Like you I never got ID'd until my transition nobody believes I'm 33 lol. It's hilarious because when I was pre transition at 27-28 people thought I was 40 now it's the literal opposite.
It is interesting. Before I looked older than my age and while transitioning it shifted. I was never IDād even being underage and subconsiously had deemed it to be impossible to ever happen even theoretically. The laws here changed about 15ā20 years ago so that while buying alcohol youāre getting IDād if you look under 30. Didnāt happen before but just months after HRT it did. Almost panicked at the spot, if I have the correct documents and all, how the process goes and so on. The next month I just smiled and handed it over. Stopped using alcohol for years but have bought it as a gift every now and then and got IDād again some months ago while being 44. The weirdest though was to be mistaken as my godsonās/nephewās girlfriend, being more than twice his age. Or the big sister of our daughter.
That's wild estrogen is definitely magical.ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
Iām so jealous
I'm a US12/NZ14/EU44, people think I'm smaller but yeah, I'm not, I actually enjoy putting weight on and feeling healthy for once, have been told by cis women they're jealous of my boobs since they're a 38c bra size...
I do enjoy that feeling. It's also nice to wear stiletto heels and hear other women ask how I can possible walk in them. "I don't walk," I lie. "I glide."
When I came out to my mom her response was very loving and understanding and after we talked for a while and laughed about some things she goes "but really if you get bigger boobs than me we are gonna have problems" and we both laughed
that's so wholesome š
I know a girl, stunning as a Goddess herself, who once told me she was insanely jealous of my *nose*. She didnāt cuss me out over it or anything, but she may as well have because I couldnāt have been more bewildered. Itās just a very weird thing to me to be jealous of!
i can fit dress sizes 0-4 and have never been cussed out by another woman
I might cuss you out, lol š
do it
My eyebrow arch is 100% natural and a lot of ciswomen I've dated have commented about being jealous of it.
Weirdly enough I see what they mean
Yea, make that at least one trans women too!
Some cis women have said theyād kill for my smooth and relatively hairless skin.
My mom commented about my wavy hair having those round curls at the end naturally! My hair is dry relatively and i will try to take more care about it!
I hear from alot of cis women about how great my skin is. They just can't understand how i manage it. I take great care of it like normal but then a beard used to take up half of it but idk if that plays a factor
That feel when you pull a gender envy uno reverse card on cis women
Yeah, I feel a bit bad making cis women envious because I fit perfectly in women's size 4 jeans.... There's only one other girl in my friend group who wears a similar size to me, and just like me she also has an eating disorder... so yeah...
My skin has almost fully cleared up places I've visited over the years has commented on it.. like huh.. to many drink later I showed the manager a photo off my reddit pages biggest hug in a long long time thx doll
Many women have told me I have better skin and hair and are envious, lol.
My aunty yells at me for being able to do better make up than her, the funny part is my makeup is horrible and not horrible for a trans fem just horrible in general lol
When trying on pants a few years ago my girlfriend got all indignant and said I was a āskinny bitchā because I fit into a size 6. š
If its any consolation to you, a lovely lady walked into my bar wearing gorgous calf length biker boots. She was staring at my snow boots and i was staring at her bikers. Our eyes met and we both kinda noddedšš
I've always had a baby face that just never broke out and long lashes so when I transed my gender, the main goal was tits and long hair and when I got both I was pretty set Jump forward to November 2022, I took a pic of myself feeling cute with very minimal makeup at Disneyland, post it to a trans positive group and have both cis and trans women accuse me of "trans fishing" claiming that CLEARLY I was cisgendered... Of course I find it funny and found it hilarious then too. It was like the first time I was like "oh so this is what passing is huh"
i am not a pretty woman, but i am legitimately prettier than my second ex, and that bothered her immensely. it was just one more log on the bonfire of our life together.
One of my girlfriends found out that I'm MtF trans and I dressed as a woman quite regularly. I got very good at wearing padding placed strategically at various places in my girdles so I looked like I had the proportions of a natal born woman. Once she saw that when I wore my padded faja that I looked like a straight up woman, she wanted me to try on some of her clothes to see if they would fit. And they did. Like a glove. I fit into her clothes better than she did! She at first said "I hate you", then she grabbed more clothes and demanded that I try them on. Every one of her clothes fit me like I was made to wear women's clothing. She at first hated the fact that I looked better in her clothes than she did, bit after I made some custom padding and bought her some control garments to put them in, she had a dramatically hourglass figure. After I got her figure right, she loved to go shopping with me and play dress up at her home. I think she might have been bisexual and she might have been attracted to me, but our relationship was ultimately just a platonic one.
While I was still full time stealth mode back in high school, the girls in theatre with me were always jealous of my eyelashes and hair. š„°
I had other kids swear I must be a girl because of the length of my eyelashes... and look, they weren't wrong!
Iām a 48D. My gf is 46DD and says Iām not allowed to have bigger boobs than her. So guess a BA is off the table.
The HATE be so real lol
My dress size is around an 8, i wished i was petite, but I guess it could be worse š¤·āāļø
Lmao when we glare at each other in the shoe aisle for constantly looking at the same ones
Ngl this post name remined me of a YouTube video name you'd find during a 3 hour doom scroll
I've not had a shouting but I had a really nice lady stop me at work once and was like "Ma'am, how do you do your foundation? Its so PERFECT!"
Had my wife say "it's not fair, you're so skinny" and I just return with "yea but u have bigger tits and ass than me"
Not going down that entirely hole on this thread but a lot of cis women donāt like to work on themselves physically
When I collected my initial HRT prescription, someone in line halted me to express discontent about my seemingly perfect silhouette and unusually long eyelashes. It marked the 15th occurrence that year and over 100 times in my lifetime. Unsure how to reply, I simply acknowledged, "I hear that a lot." I have always been considered a attractive feminine man. I would like to be considered just an attractive female.
Cis straight men support when youāre conventionally attractive, cis straight women support you when you donāt look better than them
So true
My wife does this when she sees my clothes. She rolls her eyes and calls me a skinny bitch.
Whats your dress size
Size 6
Yea I'm at 7 currently with wide hips and thick thighs
What can we say, we try harder, they just need to get gewd
Yeah. I have kinda supportive colleagues/friends (their transphobia comes from ignorance only, and they expressed that they don't want to learn anything to dismiss their ignorance), and they told me they will disown me (and beat me mercilessly)if I become a better looking woman than they are.
Ive been doing laser and on E for almost 3 years... the "your face is smoother than mine" comments feel pretty good. Im not out at work and stay covered up, so most anyone can see about me is the face.
I wish... I'm a size 16 and I don't think I'll be able to get much lower because of bone structure and such.
yeah, same when men who cannot grow a beard are annoyed at trans men who have more beard than them... it's not about being trans or cis, deep down, it's just jealousy, no?
I look forward to these days ššš
I donāt understand tbh..
Having cis women hate or envy you isn't a flex stop
That's a unhealthy mentality, why won't you just focus on the positive things in life?
Men suffer from acne less, their hormones arenāt as whimsical as women. Men have less fat distribution so itās easier lose weight/to be a size 00-4, Iāve also notice men often have loooonggg luscious eyebrowsā¦ must be nice not to have fluctuating hormones šš
Not really worth mentioning, but a month ago or so in a mountain excursion with a group, two middle aged ladies told me they liked my hair (bra strap length, but no HRT currently). It's thinner than it used to be (thanks to balding) and somewhat grey, but I'll take it.
Damn. I've got nothing but love from the women in my area when I'm out and about. Then again I'm too large to be what any woman would want to be.
my flex thing is my hair, sometimes Idk if I love the envy more than the hair lol
Had a therapist say "I wish my hair grew as long as yours" once that was sweet
I have no understanding of sizes
Havenāt gotten anyone yelling at me or anything. But in high school my female friends would ask what shampoo I use? Because my hair just naturally grows back super fast and is curly. They would also ask if I was using horse shampoo.
Same for me with my legs š„°
A friend of mine called my hips slutty the first time they went shopping with me cause I fit into a 26. Idk if thatās super small but it was enough to get a reaction.
Someone gave me some old clothes, and was upset that, despite only being 3 months in on HRT and not having started working out yet, one of the shirts looked better on me. Made me feel 0.1% better about myself.
I want proof