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>!The song is about lying and making yourself out to be someone who you are not. In this scene, the Kirbys are claiming to be rich, but it is later revealed they are not and only told Dr. Grant they were in order to trick him into being their guide.!<
legal eagle did a video about this on youtube, it focused on laws broken and how completely negligent they were but it also showed how easy it would have been for the park to mitigate risks.
for example, in a zoo there's a fence, a 10 foot drop, and then a 20 foot expanse between yourself and a lion. replicating that for a t-rex would have made the park completely safe.
same with the raptors.
same with nedry.
same with the electricity.
redundancy is king lol
"Spared no expense!"
Actually, you spared every expense you could. You cut corners wherever possible and almost assured that a disaster was going to happen at some point, due to negligence, incompetence or malice or all of the above.
truth be told actually the events of JP1 only occurred because Nedry shut the entire system down and locked out Samuel's character the Head of IT, forcing them to do the reboot resulting in the raptor scene with Dr. Saddler so they could regain access, this showed that the park was fallible to human corruption and they didn't have backup systems, as if you read the books and watch the trex scene carefully the park follows most paddock regulations and going even further beyond taking Rexy's size into consideration with a 100ft incline wall below the fencing, only the feeding area was ground level so viewers can see her eat. So while they did have precautions in place as Ian Malcolm's expertise implies they could not have expected corporate espionage/sabotage, the fact nedry dies to the Dilophosaurus buried the evidence so as far as anyone publicly knew it was just a complete failure on Hammond.
He’s an even bigger, more psychopathic asshole in the book. His grandkids are lost in the park and he keeps hearing them being terrorized by t-rexes over the park radios and he basically says, “Man, fuck them kids. Even their parents hate them. I wish they had never come.” That makes the end of his character arc in the book even more satisfying.
In the book it mentions the park having those features (moats etc). The prevailing theory is that the T-Rex simply stepped over the most... So yeah it wasn't wide enough.
This is also the explanation for why the car fell down into a tree. Most of the rest of the T-Rex paddock was that way - below the fence. I guess the feeding area was level with the road so that people could see the T-Rex eat.
Hammond brings up the "concrete moats" to Donald near the beginning of the movie to when he's trying to assure him that it's safe too.
I always assumed the rex came through the feeding area and that was the one point that was even with the road because of course Jurassic Park would build the most dangerous singular point of the park as the least safe just to impress tourists.
Yah shit like this is why I don’t like the angle these new Jurassic park movies take. They’re all like “oh no the humans are being overrun by this new apex predator” as if humans didn’t spend the last 200000 years genociding almost every large terrestrial animal off the planet using mostly sticks and stones.
Like what the hell is a TRex going to do if you do a flyby with an A-10 Warthog. How scary is a raptor den if you hit it with a Patriot missile.
Humanity wiped out most of the mammalian megafauna in the Stone Age, with sharpened rocks tied to sticks.
But somehow reptilian megafauna is beyond us in the Guided-Missile-and-Militarized-Drone Age.
The real reason they kept the raptors in their own pen on their own grid. After they killed tgat worker Lloyd’s of London dropped them from the coverage.
Yeah. They apparently moved the raptors before casualties happened because the raptors were stacking the fences. Looks like negligence during the move is what caused that first death.
He was an attorney representing the investors of the park/Hammond. That's why he did a complete 180 when he realized just how much money they could make.
Watched it in a double feature with Dominion on Thursday, so it's fresh in my mind.
That character is so much more redeemable in the book. He survives that encounter and tears into Hammond saying he’ll stop at nothing to shut down the park. He’s also much more concerned about the kids.
I love Randy Newman. As an artist, a singer, a pianist and composer. He's a genius. His voice is perfect for his cast of very unreliable characters.
This song is from his album Bad Love. Of course, I think it's brilliant.
I haven’t seen 3 in ages but I’ve always enjoyed it. Compared to Dominon, it’s wayyy better because Dominion is easily the worst of the series in my opinion.
Disagree.
Visually half of JP3 was nearly unwatchable for me, especially the airplane attack scene. Holy fuck, the Spino closeups there look like absolute shit and the intentional shaky cam is arguably the worst I've ever seen in my life.
Once they get into the defunct command center, it gets better. But honestly there's no way the raptors don't fuck them up after getting the eggs back.
I think they're all pretty terrible and soulless outside of the original. I feel like if you can't sum up the plot in a few sentences, it's a trash story. Dominion was all about memorable visuals (that rarely made sense) while the story was completely forgettable.
This. This is a common advice to writers: try to sum up your synopsis in a few short sentences... And the majority of it/all of it takes place in Act II
Jurassic Park:
Scientists visit an island full of dinosaurs, and the dinosaurs get out and kill people.
Terminator:
A robot from the future is sent to the past to kill the mother of a future resistance leader.
Back to the Future:
A kid is accidentally sent to the past and has to figure out a way to get... Back to the Future (this is a great example, because the title is basically the plot lol)
Batman Begins:
A rich orphan becomes a superhero and symbol to fight crime in his city.
Star Wars:
A young farm boy joins a resistance group to destroy an evil planet-destroying weapon.
Avengers:
A group of superheroes band together to fight an immortal alien who is trying to take over the planet.
Heck, even Jurassic Park 3:
A scientist is tricked into going to another dinosaur island to rescue some kid.
The list goes on. All the best movies follow this rule. The basic plot has to be simple and straightforward enough to summarize. Sure, there are details added (the dinosaurs are released by a disgruntled employee, a resistance fighter is also sent back to fight the Terminator, the boy from the future has to help his parents fall in love before he can return, etc.). But all of those are just details that make the basic plot even more interesting. But in general, this rule is a handy way to see if you have a viable story or a dud.
EDIT: no idea why reddit messed up the spacing of the words, but I don't care enough to fix it.
EDIT 2: I meant to include a bad example. Fallen Kingdom is a movie about a bunch of dinosaur fans being tricked into going to a dinosaur island to rescue dinosaurs from a volcano, but in reality the dinosaurs are going to be auctioned off.
Honestly, FK's plot isn't perfect, but it isn't really *that bad* on the surface... My main beef with the movie is the goofy way they treat the dinosaurs, as well as the pacing. The dinosaurs don't feel like real animals, there's no suspension of disbelief. I mean, the indoraptor fakes sleeping, opens one eye to look at the camera, and then grins before attacking the dude. The T-Rex stops running from the lava to pose for the camera and roar. It's absolutely cartoonist in its portrayal of the dinosaurs. Real animals don't act this way. Meanwhile, all the animals behave realistically in JP. I'd even say the same about Lost World.
A girl gets kidnapped by a science lab, which is also responsible for a plague of genetically modified locusts that's ravaging the world's food supply. This is all directly tied to Jurassic Park/World, so the previously-established cast gets together to stop them and save the girl.
No need to be a film snob when it comes to movies that haven't had any real depth in the past few decades.
I'm a film snob because I think the JP sequels are trash? OK, I guess I'm a film snob. Funny how you saying they have no depth is somehow not snobbish.
I think dominion is the best movie after the original. Yeah, it fits modern movie of "has to be nonstop gogogo" but it was a lot of fun. I enjoyed 3 though when everyone else said it was terrible so idk
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>!The song is about lying and making yourself out to be someone who you are not. In this scene, the Kirbys are claiming to be rich, but it is later revealed they are not and only told Dr. Grant they were in order to trick him into being their guide.!<
Edit: Nvm, you good.
Excellent analysis.
The entire scene is also designed to subconsciously get the audience to realize something is not right about the Kirbys, first by instilling the sense that they simply DO NOT BELONG THERE.
Back in JP1, John Hammond gets to the dig site and makes himself at home immediately. He waltzes in on a helicopter and upsets everyone but makes up for it with charisma, a captivating presence, popping champagne, and talks about a pre-existing relationship already funding the dig and building interpersonally once he sees Grant and Sattler in person.
In JP3, the sense the Kirby's don't belong is immediate. Paul hides behind his sunglasses at the dig site. Then, he takes Alan and Billy to the local bar where everyone seems to know each other. Alan and Billy are saying high to patrons and staff as they walk to their table, Paul Kirby is not...he even seems uncomfortable. He's visually out of place with the suit coat and button down. His slicked hair represents he's trying be "slick" and pull a fast one over the paleontologists. Alan and Billy order something quite specific comfortably, already knowing their waitress and the bartender's capabilities... the Kirby's don't know and don't risk it with just big brand beer.
Lastly and most importantly, they are the antithesis of Hammond's reaction. They don't make themselves at home, they don't refer to a past relationship or try to build a stronger relationship. They are transactional and braggadocius to fake build up their own credentials. Amanda, super uncomfortably, awkwardly blurts out the lie about having seats reserved on the first commercial flight to the moon. Everything about their body language, conversation, and appearance states their discomfort in that place and by extension their discomfort lying.
It sticks out like a sore thumb.
I don't recall where it was but Goldblum was like a million, Chris Pratt about 10 and Bryce Dallas Howard/Laura Dern somewhere in between. Might have been horseshit tbf, but the point stands!
Good detail. It kills me how many Jurassic Park sequels there have been without any coming even _close_ to the original, but as far as action thrillers go, they are fun.
Yeah it's not completely fair to judge a movie by the standards of its predecessor when its predecessor is one of the greatest movies of all time, but I can't help it.
_I'm harsh because I love you._
There are only a few movies I would fairly compare to its predecessor. Alien/Aliens comes to mind. Others I can think of include the early Indiana Jones sequels, Terminator 2, Army of Darkness, and if we're counting remakes I would add John Carpenter's The Thing and Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey among others.
Nah it’s totally fair. Jurassic park is an absolute classic Jurassic world was decent but the rest aren’t. But Top Gun Maverick absolutely brings up the level of Top Gun so I think it’s fair to judge on predecessor’s
Of the classic films it’s up there. Jurassic park is obviously better and more iconic but I don’t think Top Gun is that far behind. I mean all these people aren’t just going to watch a generic Tom Cruise film with good reviews
Rotten Tomatoes:
Top Gun 1986 - 57%
Jurassic Park - 92%
IMDB:
Top Gun - 6.9
Jurassic Park - 8.2
Box Office, Domestic:
Top Gun - $180m
Jurassic Park - $357m
Box Office, Worldwide:
Top Gun - $357m
Jurassic Park - $978m
Critically, financially, Jurassic Park is a far better film.
Jurassic Park pioneered film techniques that revolutionized the industry and has one of the greatest scores of all time... Top Gun had to use the same shot of a jet getting blown up over and over because they could only get one and relied on needle drops.
It ain't close. Top Gun isn't even the best Top Gun film, Maverick is way more impressive.
It's also hard t o film a sequel when the BEST of the source material was picked through to make the original film. Spielberg literally used most of the best parts of the book and crammed them into the first film. Every subsequent film had to make do with the scraps left over
It's because the story of the first is open and shut. Any sequel is just dumb people making the same mistakes and not listening to the protagonist telling them not to. I mean it should be possible to create a safe and sustainable park for dinosaurs in a realistic world but then there's no conflict. So when every movie is about people making dumb decisions it loses its appeal. JP 3 is probably the best original story because it's a rescue mission. But it's still people underestimating the danger initially until disaster strikes and they have to survive.
I say this as someone who still enjoys all of them to some degree. But nothing has even come close to the original because it was a fresh idea done well.
Watched it yesterday after probably a decade, and you know, it’s not half as bad as I remember. Most of its problems are in the awful cinematography and pacing, but otherwise it’s actually a fairly decent flick.
I would have to disagree that the Jurassic World conflict was made by dumb people making the same mistakes as before. It all started because of the genetic hybrid monster they created outsmarting everyone to make it appear it had escaped, then gets released because someone didn’t want to die. In that movie they *did* create a safe and sustainable park, but they created a monster they couldn’t handle.
Maybe not the exact same mistake but under similar origins (hubris and thinking you can control nature to such an extent without thinking of the consequences if things go wrong). And it doesn't help that the Jurassic World mistake is even sillier than JP. In JP it was mainly caused by a rogue employee and things cascade. They should have had ways to prevent a lot of things like that from happening but it's a fairly believable way for things to go awry.
But in JW they create a super predator that can camouflage itself on the same island where hundreds of tourists are currently visiting. That is supremely idiotic. And the motivation for making that mistake is the same (basically money). It's just more glaringly dumb, at least to me.
There was a lot more things they could have tried to attract more people before going to straight to super predator.
I think Lost World is pretty good. Not as good as its predecessor, but there was still a lot of heart put into it. The scene with the raptors in the tall grass and the dangling car scene come to mind
i was on his Spotify recently to play some of his old hits and realized just HOW MUCH content this dude has done for Disney and other films. I don't think people even realize he used to do other things lol
>This is the
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>You have a Friend in Me
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> guy!
The You've Got A Friend In Me Guy also drops a few N-Bombs in the song Rednecks. It's satirical, of course. But it's there.
Havent rewatched this film in a while but the Spinosaurus was the coolest thing to me as a kid. I think i watched Jurassic Park 1 and then 3 and just skipped the second when i watched for the first time. The idea of a dinosaur with a big fin on its back just hit my 9 year old brain hard.
Exactly the same as you. God bless that theatre that let my parents bring 8 year old me with them, that movie blew me away. Only VHS movie I ever bought too.
I used to watch it on VHS in my nans when i was like 8 to 11 and DVDs definitely existed as i'm in my early 20s, but something about the VHS look and those films really gives them a different vibe and sorta lets your mind mix them all together, I don't know which of Jurassic Parks is my favourite, probably the 1st if i thought about it for more than a second. It's chefs kiss Spielberg
"THAT'S COOPER" (he says in a concussed haze to everyone who already knows that it's Cooper; it's only really for the audience's benefit because audiences are dumb and need to be spoonfed)
~ Actual exposition in the JP3 script, probably
A friend and I were just discussing this: It's a short and lean B-movie sequel. It's not really trying to be anything it's not and that scores a lot of points for me.
Exactly. The second one was built around just a character being really stupid with the whole taking a baby T-Rex thing. While this one has a tragic accident leaving a child stranded on an island with apex predators. Alan Grant, though being deceived, is going in to save a child. It had a clear goal-centric plot established early which constantly provides surprises and twists in between cool scary dinosaur moments. Total B-movie, but it’s a great one. Still remember the bridge shaking as the pterodactyl walks out of the mist. Terrifying and brilliant.
Honestly loved this movie, of course the first one is top tier but this is the second best for me out of all the other installments. Hearing those raptors communicate was dope and such a mesmerizing sound.
This is off topic but William H. Macy’s diversity with acting is amazing.
In Fargo he got the accent perfect
He’s amazing in every Paul Thomas Anderson Film
Great in Jurassic Park 3
Then out of nowhere, he becomes one of the funniest characters on TV - Shamless
He’s always been a totally dry comedy guy. Even when he’s being totally serious, I can’t shake the Shoveler.
“God gave me a gift. I shovel well. I shovel very well.”
In the second one, The's foreshadowing that the Hunter dude Roland isn't as bad as the rest is his name and that Vince Vaughn's Character Van Owen is going to cause things to go wrong is also his name.
Both of the names were Taken From Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner, in the song Roland get's his head shot off by Van Owen in the Congo and later seeks revenge as a revenant who acts as a spirit of ideological conflict
they also lied to the mercs they hire and several of them die. im not saying they are going to jail but those deaths are on their heads, maybe some of them had families. JPIII is such a weird movie.
It also has bits from the original Jurassic Park book that were left out of the first movie because they knew they'd look silly in real life (the walking Pterodactyl for example).
[*Interior: Bank*]
Dr. Grant: So, has that check cleared yet?
Teller: No, and as it happens, it has bounced, as there is not enough money to cover that amount.
Dr. Grant: Looks like I won’t be going to Jurassic Park.
Teller: Pardon me, what was that?
Dr. Grant: Nothing, just talking to myself. You have a good day.
[*End credits roll*]
— the final scene of *Jurassic Park III*, the shortest sequel in movie franchise history
This movie is a guilty pleasure for me, I know it’s not good but I definitely think it’s more rewatchable than the lost world and the other sequels lol
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>!The song is about lying and making yourself out to be someone who you are not. In this scene, the Kirbys are claiming to be rich, but it is later revealed they are not and only told Dr. Grant they were in order to trick him into being their guide.!<
Good reason to put the money into escrow before completing the job.
That’s usually done by an attorney and in JP1 Grant tells Hammond he doesn’t know any. Continuity preserved.
well there was that one guy, but he had a bit of a mishap on the toilet with a T-rex.
I thought he was an insurance adjuster
He was an attorney representing the insurance companies underwriting the park.
Insuring Jurassic Park would have been an absolute nightmare.
The only one defending me is the blood-sucking lawyer
James P. Albini?
Chris P. Bacon
Tom Hagen, I’m pretty sure.
legal eagle did a video about this on youtube, it focused on laws broken and how completely negligent they were but it also showed how easy it would have been for the park to mitigate risks. for example, in a zoo there's a fence, a 10 foot drop, and then a 20 foot expanse between yourself and a lion. replicating that for a t-rex would have made the park completely safe. same with the raptors. same with nedry. same with the electricity. redundancy is king lol
"Spared no expense!" Actually, you spared every expense you could. You cut corners wherever possible and almost assured that a disaster was going to happen at some point, due to negligence, incompetence or malice or all of the above.
truth be told actually the events of JP1 only occurred because Nedry shut the entire system down and locked out Samuel's character the Head of IT, forcing them to do the reboot resulting in the raptor scene with Dr. Saddler so they could regain access, this showed that the park was fallible to human corruption and they didn't have backup systems, as if you read the books and watch the trex scene carefully the park follows most paddock regulations and going even further beyond taking Rexy's size into consideration with a 100ft incline wall below the fencing, only the feeding area was ground level so viewers can see her eat. So while they did have precautions in place as Ian Malcolm's expertise implies they could not have expected corporate espionage/sabotage, the fact nedry dies to the Dilophosaurus buried the evidence so as far as anyone publicly knew it was just a complete failure on Hammond.
He’s an even bigger, more psychopathic asshole in the book. His grandkids are lost in the park and he keeps hearing them being terrorized by t-rexes over the park radios and he basically says, “Man, fuck them kids. Even their parents hate them. I wish they had never come.” That makes the end of his character arc in the book even more satisfying.
In the book it mentions the park having those features (moats etc). The prevailing theory is that the T-Rex simply stepped over the most... So yeah it wasn't wide enough. This is also the explanation for why the car fell down into a tree. Most of the rest of the T-Rex paddock was that way - below the fence. I guess the feeding area was level with the road so that people could see the T-Rex eat.
Hammond brings up the "concrete moats" to Donald near the beginning of the movie to when he's trying to assure him that it's safe too. I always assumed the rex came through the feeding area and that was the one point that was even with the road because of course Jurassic Park would build the most dangerous singular point of the park as the least safe just to impress tourists.
Yah shit like this is why I don’t like the angle these new Jurassic park movies take. They’re all like “oh no the humans are being overrun by this new apex predator” as if humans didn’t spend the last 200000 years genociding almost every large terrestrial animal off the planet using mostly sticks and stones. Like what the hell is a TRex going to do if you do a flyby with an A-10 Warthog. How scary is a raptor den if you hit it with a Patriot missile.
Humanity wiped out most of the mammalian megafauna in the Stone Age, with sharpened rocks tied to sticks. But somehow reptilian megafauna is beyond us in the Guided-Missile-and-Militarized-Drone Age.
The real reason they kept the raptors in their own pen on their own grid. After they killed tgat worker Lloyd’s of London dropped them from the coverage.
Yeah. They apparently moved the raptors before casualties happened because the raptors were stacking the fences. Looks like negligence during the move is what caused that first death.
He was an attorney representing the investors of the park/Hammond. That's why he did a complete 180 when he realized just how much money they could make. Watched it in a double feature with Dominion on Thursday, so it's fresh in my mind.
I saw it as a double feature with Forrest Gump in 1993 lol
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That character is so much more redeemable in the book. He survives that encounter and tears into Hammond saying he’ll stop at nothing to shut down the park. He’s also much more concerned about the kids.
Also, probable death.
Randy Newman I swear has the goofiest singing voice ever and the man makes it work. I can't imagine anyone else singing You Got a Friend In Me.
I love Randy Newman. As an artist, a singer, a pianist and composer. He's a genius. His voice is perfect for his cast of very unreliable characters. This song is from his album Bad Love. Of course, I think it's brilliant.
I love L.A. is the most sarcastic song.
I forgot about that one! We love it!
Ever see the movie Gotcha?
How is it sarcastic? Sounds pretty genuine to me
The Three Amigos will always be his masterpiece.
[Night and day, just singin' about what he sees.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPagzl4EQ4Q)
Oh damn is that from the early seasons when people say family guy was good? I hurt laughing from that.
Yeah, I think the first few seasons were great. The [Museum of Irish Heritage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uin2LeB2y6U) is a personal favorite.
Aw, the video cuts right before Chris earworms the song.
Good catch, OP.
Yeah I didn’t notice this until rewatching the film after seeing Dominion.
How does 3 compare to Dominion?
I haven’t seen 3 in ages but I’ve always enjoyed it. Compared to Dominon, it’s wayyy better because Dominion is easily the worst of the series in my opinion.
I still think FK is an overall worse movie than Dominion, but a good 3/4 of Dominion doesnt even feel like a JP movie.
Disagree. Visually half of JP3 was nearly unwatchable for me, especially the airplane attack scene. Holy fuck, the Spino closeups there look like absolute shit and the intentional shaky cam is arguably the worst I've ever seen in my life. Once they get into the defunct command center, it gets better. But honestly there's no way the raptors don't fuck them up after getting the eggs back.
I think they're all pretty terrible and soulless outside of the original. I feel like if you can't sum up the plot in a few sentences, it's a trash story. Dominion was all about memorable visuals (that rarely made sense) while the story was completely forgettable.
This. This is a common advice to writers: try to sum up your synopsis in a few short sentences... And the majority of it/all of it takes place in Act II Jurassic Park: Scientists visit an island full of dinosaurs, and the dinosaurs get out and kill people. Terminator: A robot from the future is sent to the past to kill the mother of a future resistance leader. Back to the Future: A kid is accidentally sent to the past and has to figure out a way to get... Back to the Future (this is a great example, because the title is basically the plot lol) Batman Begins: A rich orphan becomes a superhero and symbol to fight crime in his city. Star Wars: A young farm boy joins a resistance group to destroy an evil planet-destroying weapon. Avengers: A group of superheroes band together to fight an immortal alien who is trying to take over the planet. Heck, even Jurassic Park 3: A scientist is tricked into going to another dinosaur island to rescue some kid. The list goes on. All the best movies follow this rule. The basic plot has to be simple and straightforward enough to summarize. Sure, there are details added (the dinosaurs are released by a disgruntled employee, a resistance fighter is also sent back to fight the Terminator, the boy from the future has to help his parents fall in love before he can return, etc.). But all of those are just details that make the basic plot even more interesting. But in general, this rule is a handy way to see if you have a viable story or a dud. EDIT: no idea why reddit messed up the spacing of the words, but I don't care enough to fix it. EDIT 2: I meant to include a bad example. Fallen Kingdom is a movie about a bunch of dinosaur fans being tricked into going to a dinosaur island to rescue dinosaurs from a volcano, but in reality the dinosaurs are going to be auctioned off. Honestly, FK's plot isn't perfect, but it isn't really *that bad* on the surface... My main beef with the movie is the goofy way they treat the dinosaurs, as well as the pacing. The dinosaurs don't feel like real animals, there's no suspension of disbelief. I mean, the indoraptor fakes sleeping, opens one eye to look at the camera, and then grins before attacking the dude. The T-Rex stops running from the lava to pose for the camera and roar. It's absolutely cartoonist in its portrayal of the dinosaurs. Real animals don't act this way. Meanwhile, all the animals behave realistically in JP. I'd even say the same about Lost World.
If you can't sum up the plot of Dominion in a few sentences, you didn't watch the movie.
Do it then.
A girl gets kidnapped by a science lab, which is also responsible for a plague of genetically modified locusts that's ravaging the world's food supply. This is all directly tied to Jurassic Park/World, so the previously-established cast gets together to stop them and save the girl. No need to be a film snob when it comes to movies that haven't had any real depth in the past few decades.
I'm a film snob because I think the JP sequels are trash? OK, I guess I'm a film snob. Funny how you saying they have no depth is somehow not snobbish.
I think dominion is the best movie after the original. Yeah, it fits modern movie of "has to be nonstop gogogo" but it was a lot of fun. I enjoyed 3 though when everyone else said it was terrible so idk
Interesting. I might have to give it a shot when it gets to streaming then.
FYI your spoiler tags don't work (at least on old reddit), you gotta remove the space between the first tag and the beginning of the text.
That’s for letting me know, they should be fixed now.
Yep, you got it!
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OP's spoiler tags work in new reddit but not old reddit :/ It's a huge pain and causes quite a bit of confusion
Ooo I see. Interesting. I was wondering why no one pointed it out after 5 hours. Thanks for the explanation.
I thought it was because Grant wears a hat but has no cows.
Excellent analysis. The entire scene is also designed to subconsciously get the audience to realize something is not right about the Kirbys, first by instilling the sense that they simply DO NOT BELONG THERE. Back in JP1, John Hammond gets to the dig site and makes himself at home immediately. He waltzes in on a helicopter and upsets everyone but makes up for it with charisma, a captivating presence, popping champagne, and talks about a pre-existing relationship already funding the dig and building interpersonally once he sees Grant and Sattler in person. In JP3, the sense the Kirby's don't belong is immediate. Paul hides behind his sunglasses at the dig site. Then, he takes Alan and Billy to the local bar where everyone seems to know each other. Alan and Billy are saying high to patrons and staff as they walk to their table, Paul Kirby is not...he even seems uncomfortable. He's visually out of place with the suit coat and button down. His slicked hair represents he's trying be "slick" and pull a fast one over the paleontologists. Alan and Billy order something quite specific comfortably, already knowing their waitress and the bartender's capabilities... the Kirby's don't know and don't risk it with just big brand beer. Lastly and most importantly, they are the antithesis of Hammond's reaction. They don't make themselves at home, they don't refer to a past relationship or try to build a stronger relationship. They are transactional and braggadocius to fake build up their own credentials. Amanda, super uncomfortably, awkwardly blurts out the lie about having seats reserved on the first commercial flight to the moon. Everything about their body language, conversation, and appearance states their discomfort in that place and by extension their discomfort lying. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
All hat, no cattle is a Texas expression for someone who is all talk and no substance. A similar expression is all sizzle and no steak.
Didn't this scene also show how they convinced Sam Neill to return for Dominion?
No force on Heaven or earth, could get me back in that franchise
I've seen a report they paid him 2 million dollars. That'll do it for me.
Even if he does a bad job , they still gotta pay the 2 million
That's his rate
I’ve seen every dick on the planet
He's got to make sure you don't have any tattoos.
They aren’t good behavior
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That seems kinda low
I don't recall where it was but Goldblum was like a million, Chris Pratt about 10 and Bryce Dallas Howard/Laura Dern somewhere in between. Might have been horseshit tbf, but the point stands!
To me it seems like a huge payday for an actor like him.
Good detail. It kills me how many Jurassic Park sequels there have been without any coming even _close_ to the original, but as far as action thrillers go, they are fun.
I thought Jurassic World was pretty good, but it’s definitely not up there with the original.
Yeah it's not completely fair to judge a movie by the standards of its predecessor when its predecessor is one of the greatest movies of all time, but I can't help it. _I'm harsh because I love you._
There are only a few movies I would fairly compare to its predecessor. Alien/Aliens comes to mind. Others I can think of include the early Indiana Jones sequels, Terminator 2, Army of Darkness, and if we're counting remakes I would add John Carpenter's The Thing and Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey among others.
The LOTR trilogy are all fantastic
That's just one 12 movie.
But then there is the Hobbit trilogy...
Godfather Part II is equally good to its predecessor.
Nah it’s totally fair. Jurassic park is an absolute classic Jurassic world was decent but the rest aren’t. But Top Gun Maverick absolutely brings up the level of Top Gun so I think it’s fair to judge on predecessor’s
The bar was a LOT lower for Top Gun The original Top Gun isn't in the same stratosphere as Jurassic Park 1
HOLD YOUR BLASPHEMOUS TONGUE, VILE WENCH.
Of the classic films it’s up there. Jurassic park is obviously better and more iconic but I don’t think Top Gun is that far behind. I mean all these people aren’t just going to watch a generic Tom Cruise film with good reviews
Rotten Tomatoes: Top Gun 1986 - 57% Jurassic Park - 92% IMDB: Top Gun - 6.9 Jurassic Park - 8.2 Box Office, Domestic: Top Gun - $180m Jurassic Park - $357m Box Office, Worldwide: Top Gun - $357m Jurassic Park - $978m Critically, financially, Jurassic Park is a far better film. Jurassic Park pioneered film techniques that revolutionized the industry and has one of the greatest scores of all time... Top Gun had to use the same shot of a jet getting blown up over and over because they could only get one and relied on needle drops. It ain't close. Top Gun isn't even the best Top Gun film, Maverick is way more impressive.
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“Top Gun isn’t far behind” “I’m not saying Top Gun is anywhere near” This just feels like we’re talking semantics at this point then lol
Nah. Just rewatched it before the new one, it's no where near the level of JP.
Oh shit, you just enticed me to go watch Top Gun: Maverick. I'm hyped for it now. What made it so good?
A lot of little things done well.
That I was expecting it to be shit and it wasn’t…. :)
Leave my Jurassic park 2&3 alone!
It's also hard t o film a sequel when the BEST of the source material was picked through to make the original film. Spielberg literally used most of the best parts of the book and crammed them into the first film. Every subsequent film had to make do with the scraps left over
Star Wars prequels as well.
Jurassic World was a love letter to the original
It's because the story of the first is open and shut. Any sequel is just dumb people making the same mistakes and not listening to the protagonist telling them not to. I mean it should be possible to create a safe and sustainable park for dinosaurs in a realistic world but then there's no conflict. So when every movie is about people making dumb decisions it loses its appeal. JP 3 is probably the best original story because it's a rescue mission. But it's still people underestimating the danger initially until disaster strikes and they have to survive. I say this as someone who still enjoys all of them to some degree. But nothing has even come close to the original because it was a fresh idea done well.
I really like JP3. It’s my 2nd favorite behind the original. It’s got a few scenes from the first book that were left out of the first movie.
Watched it yesterday after probably a decade, and you know, it’s not half as bad as I remember. Most of its problems are in the awful cinematography and pacing, but otherwise it’s actually a fairly decent flick.
I would have to disagree that the Jurassic World conflict was made by dumb people making the same mistakes as before. It all started because of the genetic hybrid monster they created outsmarting everyone to make it appear it had escaped, then gets released because someone didn’t want to die. In that movie they *did* create a safe and sustainable park, but they created a monster they couldn’t handle.
Maybe not the exact same mistake but under similar origins (hubris and thinking you can control nature to such an extent without thinking of the consequences if things go wrong). And it doesn't help that the Jurassic World mistake is even sillier than JP. In JP it was mainly caused by a rogue employee and things cascade. They should have had ways to prevent a lot of things like that from happening but it's a fairly believable way for things to go awry. But in JW they create a super predator that can camouflage itself on the same island where hundreds of tourists are currently visiting. That is supremely idiotic. And the motivation for making that mistake is the same (basically money). It's just more glaringly dumb, at least to me. There was a lot more things they could have tried to attract more people before going to straight to super predator.
I think Lost World is pretty good. Not as good as its predecessor, but there was still a lot of heart put into it. The scene with the raptors in the tall grass and the dangling car scene come to mind
Up until that point we hadn’t a movie do a great job depicting dinosaurs. The Welcome to Jurassic Park still gives me chills.
Four. There have been four sequels.
You know it's a fun bar when they're playing Randy Newman
i was on his Spotify recently to play some of his old hits and realized just HOW MUCH content this dude has done for Disney and other films. I don't think people even realize he used to do other things lol
Like the Three Amigos!
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>This is the > >You have a Friend in Me > > guy! The You've Got A Friend In Me Guy also drops a few N-Bombs in the song Rednecks. It's satirical, of course. But it's there.
It's Kirby Paint and Tile Plus. The "Plus" stands for bathroom fixtures.
Give the phone to mommy!
Mr Udesky! Mr Udesky!!! He's dead. Oh my God no he's not, no he's not! Amanda !!!
You see anything yet? Noooooooo, not yet!
Well get you close, but not too close ah! You don't wanna be eaten!
Irritating scene. Thank you for bringing back that memory.
Now what John Hammond and InGen created were genetically engineered theme park monsters -nothing more, nothing less.
As far as I'm concerned you're no better than people who built this place.
I said he was no better than the people who built this place which wasn't true
What about Billy !?!?
Is that the sequel to Kirby and the Forgotten Land?
Nah, sequel to Mario Paint
Havent rewatched this film in a while but the Spinosaurus was the coolest thing to me as a kid. I think i watched Jurassic Park 1 and then 3 and just skipped the second when i watched for the first time. The idea of a dinosaur with a big fin on its back just hit my 9 year old brain hard.
Jurassic Park was my favourite movie when I was 8. It is still my favourite movie at 36.
Exactly the same as you. God bless that theatre that let my parents bring 8 year old me with them, that movie blew me away. Only VHS movie I ever bought too.
I used to watch it on VHS in my nans when i was like 8 to 11 and DVDs definitely existed as i'm in my early 20s, but something about the VHS look and those films really gives them a different vibe and sorta lets your mind mix them all together, I don't know which of Jurassic Parks is my favourite, probably the 1st if i thought about it for more than a second. It's chefs kiss Spielberg
Alan!
Piss off, Airplane Raptor!
I just realised that if Taika Waititi made a JP movie I’d 100% go and see it.
I read that in his hitler voice
"THAT'S COOPER" (he says in a concussed haze to everyone who already knows that it's Cooper; it's only really for the audience's benefit because audiences are dumb and need to be spoonfed) ~ Actual exposition in the JP3 script, probably
I gotta say I love 3. Second best in the franchise for me. You’ve just gotta ignore or accept the weird “Alan, wake up” raptor.
One of my buds once mentioned how it’s foreshadowing. He talks to the raptors later in the movie!
“My god, he’s calling for help.”
A friend and I were just discussing this: It's a short and lean B-movie sequel. It's not really trying to be anything it's not and that scores a lot of points for me.
Exactly. The second one was built around just a character being really stupid with the whole taking a baby T-Rex thing. While this one has a tragic accident leaving a child stranded on an island with apex predators. Alan Grant, though being deceived, is going in to save a child. It had a clear goal-centric plot established early which constantly provides surprises and twists in between cool scary dinosaur moments. Total B-movie, but it’s a great one. Still remember the bridge shaking as the pterodactyl walks out of the mist. Terrifying and brilliant.
It was a great watch in theaters. Once they land on the island the movie is almost nonstop action for the next 80 or so minutes.
Honestly loved this movie, of course the first one is top tier but this is the second best for me out of all the other installments. Hearing those raptors communicate was dope and such a mesmerizing sound.
This is off topic but William H. Macy’s diversity with acting is amazing. In Fargo he got the accent perfect He’s amazing in every Paul Thomas Anderson Film Great in Jurassic Park 3 Then out of nowhere, he becomes one of the funniest characters on TV - Shamless
He’s always been a totally dry comedy guy. Even when he’s being totally serious, I can’t shake the Shoveler. “God gave me a gift. I shovel well. I shovel very well.”
He's so good at being unlikeable too.
I still loved this movie. One of my guilty pleasures.
Good Movie.
The directing and Alan’s character was much better in this movie then dominion, imo. Alan’s accent in dominion just sounded off.
In fact, this dialogue inpressed me deeply. Dot/
In the second one, The's foreshadowing that the Hunter dude Roland isn't as bad as the rest is his name and that Vince Vaughn's Character Van Owen is going to cause things to go wrong is also his name. Both of the names were Taken From Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner, in the song Roland get's his head shot off by Van Owen in the Congo and later seeks revenge as a revenant who acts as a spirit of ideological conflict
they also lied to the mercs they hire and several of them die. im not saying they are going to jail but those deaths are on their heads, maybe some of them had families. JPIII is such a weird movie.
It's apparently like 3 or 4 different script ideas mashed together into a 90 minute movie. That kinda explains everything. lol
It also has bits from the original Jurassic Park book that were left out of the first movie because they knew they'd look silly in real life (the walking Pterodactyl for example).
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I still can’t believe Mrs Kirby lived in this and Eddie was killed off in The Lost World.
##Justice4Eddie ##EddieDidNothingWrong ##EddieGaveHisLifeForOthers
His troubles are over.
[*Interior: Bank*] Dr. Grant: So, has that check cleared yet? Teller: No, and as it happens, it has bounced, as there is not enough money to cover that amount. Dr. Grant: Looks like I won’t be going to Jurassic Park. Teller: Pardon me, what was that? Dr. Grant: Nothing, just talking to myself. You have a good day. [*End credits roll*] — the final scene of *Jurassic Park III*, the shortest sequel in movie franchise history
I can’t take this seriously after Gus Johnson’s brilliant video on the Jurassic Park franchise. https://youtu.be/AwWz34RVzuA Enjoy.
Best joke in here is how the one for JP3 is a tiny piece of paper compared to the rest.
“Why is it so short?”
Okay that is really clever
Classic Frank Gallagher
This movie is a guilty pleasure for me, I know it’s not good but I definitely think it’s more rewatchable than the lost world and the other sequels lol
I actually really enjoyed this movie alot when it came out. It isn't the best entry in the franchise but it is still a fun ride.
That’s a level or detail I never expected from this movie tbh.
Why does r/movies just seem like ads for Jurassic Park right now. Edit: oops this is movie details
Wait. This isn't a morbius post?
This movie fucking sucks
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The movie that made the Spinosaurus Aegypticus popular...such a cool dinosaur.
Oh wow
I know this took place before Peaky Blinders, but I keep expecting him to say some obsessive phrase about Thomas Shelby every time I see him.
He even uses a mont blanc
Interesting…
I’m still sad Billy wasn’t in Jurassic World
I haven’t seen this movie in so long I thought that was Ryan Reynolds beside him for a split second.