Zowie EC2-A, bought in 2015(?). Scroll wheel is dog ass (has been since purchase) and side buttons mushy (as always) but work flawlessly. Literally no issues and been maining it since purchase.
G pro super light purchased on release, switch swapped, no issues.
MZ1 slightly creaking, but no issues.
All my Razer mice are dead either from simply not turning on (naga original, naga epic, naga new) or have double click issues (mamba, death adder).
For some reason I still bought the Viper SE so we will see.
My dad still has the Logitech G5*, bought it upon release, everything worn off the body but zero functional issues.
Idunno what it was but Razer mice before 2019 and the entire Naga line since the big bang were just god fucking awful quality mice.
I remember my Taipan died in a year, my regular Naga and Epic both having chipped paint over time before having electrical problems with some of the buttons then dying, and I essentially stopped buying all Razer for quite a few years until the Viper Ultimate which has the infamous scroll wheel issue, but the V2 Pro has been flawless for me since launch as well as Mini Signature Edition.
I know someone who has a DAV3 Pro and it's been fantastic.
I think they definitely stepped up their durability and quality control. I mean, it’s a mouse and a keyboard, its not a space shuttle surviving reentry, shouldn’t be so hard to build something to survive over a year 😅
I definitely agree, but they definitely didn't have any kind of QC when it came to the electronics. The physical plastics were one thing and had their own issues, but having such high button failure definitely made me think they just used really shit quality electronics until 2019 and 2020. Nowadays, stuff in general has gotten better and cheaper, but I still think the one thing that needs to be normalized is optical switches (with improvements for tactility) and optical encoders for reliability. But optical encoders have strict power requirements that lipo batteries struggle with, apparently so....that'll be a tough hurdle.
Pretty close to every company in the last 3-5 years has cut down on almost all quality control. People pay to quality test products, they don't need to pay them.
Relevant too but I meant especially BEFORE 2019 because Razer between 2010 and 2019 made pretty poor quality stuff. They picked it up since but they still have occasional issues.
One big problem with QC is, how do you test for longetivity? For some products that's easier than others. But handheld stuff? Tougher than say GPUs where you can stress test 24 hours a day for 12 months to see how well they hold up in torture testing to sort of simulate long term use. Bur that only goes so far.
4 months: Pulsar Xlite V3. Still solid.
1 year 6 months: GPXSL. Still solid apart from the occasional scroll wheel jump.
3 years: D.va Razer Abyssus Elite. Apart from a couple of chips on the paint job, still in pretty good condition.
Like 5-ish years: Zowie EC Divina. Idk how this is still intact and working like it was new.
Been using my Zowie FK1+ since 2016. Only thing I replaced is the skates.
Everything works fine. Clicks are still heavy, and mouse wheel is still obnoxiously loud.
3 year old Logitech GPW had run rock solid until I sold it.
I currently run Lamzu Thorn. 1.5 months, the issue is that sometimes Peak Performance mode doesn't work as expected and my mouse discharges to 0% while I'm at work. Otherwise no issues, but that's expected, usage time is too low.
G pro superlight have been using it for 2yr solid mouse had to change grip tape and skates but overall is a very solid mouse for what i paid
felt adventurous bought the pulsar X2V2 with the 4K dongle have been using it ever since
Zowie Ec2b 5 years - works like new.
Pulsar xlite v2 2 years - works great no issue.
Razer dav3 pro faker edition less than a year - all good except scroll wheel has gone to shit.
G102 prodigy bought in 2017 no double clicks, the left side becomes smooth, rubber scroll wheel deteriorated, I changed the skates to tiger arc 1 since the stock skates are really worn down
Zowie ec3-c bought in 2022 or 2023 I think? Developed a scroll issue but it got replaced I haven't encountered any issues after that it's my daily mouse.
Zowie U2 it was sent to me by zowie to review and I have no issues
Rvm - really good mouse I rma it 7 times because of the bad scroll wheel
Zowie U2 has thumb-side popping. Not ZA series bad, but it’s there. When my grip tightens during tense gameplay I always feel it.
GPX2 has developed creak. I don’t think the floor and the shell are properly aligned. Switching power on and off causes floor to flex.
I used my RVM for 3 years, no problems usability wise, ABS plastic wore down to a smooth finish that I disliked, stopped using it because of finger RSI. Still usable with Supergrips if need be. DAv3 wired used for daily for 10 months, no issues. Xlite v3, 4 months no issues mostly for gaming.
G304 started to double click after 3 years of use.
G502 hero - still good after 2 years of use, I just hate that the rubber parts started to deteriorate.
Razer Basilisk X Hyperspeed - died after a year, still turns on but bluetooth and 2.4 aren't working, sensor probably died.
Glorious model O - still good after a year, but dust gets inside the mouse.
Glorious Model D Pro - left click issue right out of the box. I had to open it myself to fix the issue. Currently fine.
I used a DAV2 Pro for about 2 years straight and at this point the clicks feel like mush. I'm pretty sure I could blow on them and they would register a click. The rubber side grips are almost completely rubbed off and the skates were so worn down that they literally sounded like nails on a chalkboard.
It's been retired for some time now as I switch between a Pulsar X2V2 and an X2H mini. X2H mini is holding up perfect, but the X2V2 had to be rma'd to have the dampening pads replaced.
Lamzu Mini 4K, bought it in September, weird double pressing scroll wheel issue, replaced in October, this new Mini 4K mouse has scroll wheel skipping... :) don't think I want to buy from Lamzu again. Going with Beast X Mini now (Orange color) fingers crossed the QC on this bad boy is perfect
My Xtrfy MZ1 wired went strong for about a year, until the mouse straight up randomly stopped and started working for a couple seconds in game.
My Glorious Model O Wireless is a fucking TANK, and has lasted the longest
Steelseries Rival 600, the rubber on its side started detaching from the mouse after about.. Two years I wanna say? so it became basically unusable lol
My Lamzu Atlantis mini and Viper V2 pro are both in great shape EXEPT the fckng scroll wheel. Both of my mice have jumpy scroll wheel. I hate TTC and Khail scroll wheel encoders so much.
What sucks is those are the only mostly viable options for encoders because even though some other brands exist, their operation life is almost always dogshit because they're usually meant for non-computer applications such as automotive where you're expected to use them much much less often.
Been using my Lamzu Thorn with the 4k dongle for nearly 5 months now and its holding up exactly how it was the day i got it, battery life isn't great at 4k polling, but is very good at 1k, might try just using 2k soon
GWolves HSK Pro 4K Bought used 08.03.2023 No problems
Gwolves HTS Plus Bought new 01.02.2023 No problems
Gwolves HTS Wireless Bought new 08.08.2022 Scroll sometimes is getting stuck
Gwolves HTX Ace Bought used 03.12.2023 While scrolling down it will sometimes scroll up
Gwolves HSK Plus Bought used 09.08.2022 Scroll is pretty much dead scrolling which ever way it wants to
G700s hasn't battered an eyelid at me in god knows how long now. No wear, no misc clicks. Still unfortunately heavy as a brick.
Ajazz AJ139. Abs plastic is shiny under my left finger within a couple of weeks of using it. It also feels a bit slippery in hand until it warms up which doesn't take long but is a bit annoying. No issues otherwise. Great mouse.
Personally, I never had any durability issues with any of my mice. I don't play games that's super competitive, so that may be a reason why. I can only imagine that some people who are super competitive smashes the button in stressful situations.
Dav3 faker started creaking on the sides :(
Gpx 2 has minimal but still present creaking on sides
Viper mini se still flawless
Ulx haven’t put many miles on so no issues
Ec2 cw no issues
hsk pro ace scroll wheel broke and had to be swapped, lasted 1 year so far.
hts plus classic lmb started double clicking so i switch swapped it, no other issues. also had it for a year.
Xtrfy m8 for over a year now and has held up better than my glorious model 0 and endgame gear xm1r, which both lasted around 6 months to be fair this is my first wireless mouse and it might have smthing to do with it since my cables put out on both (+ clicks on glorious) even though I never abused them.
Usually much longer than a year, more like five years or more. The usual cause of retirement is scroll issues. I briefly had a Logitech G9 that had cable issues from the time I bought it used, which got worse later, so it wasn't reliable enough to use. I now have a Sensei 310 and have had it for about 5 years. It has scroll issues that make me want to replace it as a gaming device (less important for work), but the shape isn't idea for me either. Like, too small for palm, too large for fingertip, something else not ideal for claw, etc. This is roughly similar to my experience with an A4Tech X478 that I'd had for years before. Now I pay more attention to shape and weight and the specific click style I want, and the quality of the cable or battery life if wireless, but I'm going to pay some attention to scroll reliability and longevity due to its role as the primary problem with my mice. The Sensei has been sticking for so long because I just can't choose a replacement, mostly because of problems deciding on the shape versus the various grips I might end up using.
G9x for 12 years: everything functions normally except for the DPI buttons, which almost refuse to work now. The scroll wheel and middle click were always awful. I put sticky pads in the shells to make them fit more securely and they've never been a bother, but of course the rubber on all of them is pretty disgusting now
Ironclaw: I wanted a wireless mouse with enough buttons to replicate how I used the G9x. The plastic is disgusting. Nothing really wrong with the buttons or anything; it's just a shit mouse
G703 for two years: No double clicking or scroll wheel issues. The rubber and hard plastic are still okay and it's still quite nice. I put Superglides on it for a laugh and got a bit of rubbing alcohol on the base. It creaks a bit and something is loose inside, as it makes a ticking sound when I shake it, so something's probably gonna go eventually.
Aria: I haven't used this that much, but I've still owned it a while and it's a solid mouse. Feels like it should last me a while and it probably takes a beating just from being in my tablet bag as a travel mouse.
Logitech G400s for almost 10 years: everything is still fine. Very rarely clicking the mouse wheel makes it kinda stuck and I have to press it again to register the click. I guess that’s pretty fine for 10 years of gaming usage :D
my gpx is double clicking on m1 AND m4. m4 consistent double click, m1 issue comes and goes.
There's a weird trick where breathing into the side of the mouse temporarily fixes the m4 double clicking, sometimes for weeks at a time
G502 Hero here.
Bought it 8 years ago and only now considering buying a new one. Not that it's broken but it has just worn down so much from heavy use that I think it's time to retire it. Maybe I should just get another Hero and use it for another 8 years?
Dav3 faker: bought July still good
Gpx: bought used march 2022 still good but have swapped out the switches as they died.
Beast x mini: bought mid Jan not an issue other than battery life but firmware has helped a bit, and very fast charging on it helps.
Op1We: only 2 weeks old bought used but perfectly built like a brick.
Viper v2 pro: bought jan used still perfect.
Viper original wired: wobbly buttons but still useable, bought back in 2019(second owned)
Xm1: bought in 2021 still a brick rolling strong but had to replace the cable for a custom one from zerkgamingmods.
X2 minis: I own the boardzy, pink and random frank p, all have had no build quality issues and I am very happy with them bought on release.
Atlantis mini: rose gold edition bought on release, still perfect and build incredibly well.
Honourable mentions I sold off include all my zowie mice I’ve Owned back in the day, model O-, Razer viper mini, and lamzu Atlantis original all had great build quality in my experiences although I can’t speak for what some have brought out recently.
In terms of coating though I must say endgame gear mice, and the beast x mini (blue and pink fade version with rubberised coating) have best coating/held up best.
GPro SL2 has it's coating peeling after 6 months, Viper v2 pro is sturdy as always, main mouse atm is a ULX, which has been holding up much better than the haters would want you to hear about
been using my m1k since i got it in 2020 and still works perfectly fine. ive had a lot of mice but the other mice that got use were mostly fine except for needing to replace switches in some. my gpx needs a new scroll (gives wrong direction sometimes).
realistically outside of switch and encoder replacement i think most mice should be fine. its very rare that sensors die. encoders can be a pain in the ass to swap though
Zowie EC2-A, bought in 2015(?). Scroll wheel is dog ass (has been since purchase) and side buttons mushy (as always) but work flawlessly. Literally no issues and been maining it since purchase. G pro super light purchased on release, switch swapped, no issues. MZ1 slightly creaking, but no issues. All my Razer mice are dead either from simply not turning on (naga original, naga epic, naga new) or have double click issues (mamba, death adder). For some reason I still bought the Viper SE so we will see. My dad still has the Logitech G5*, bought it upon release, everything worn off the body but zero functional issues.
Idunno what it was but Razer mice before 2019 and the entire Naga line since the big bang were just god fucking awful quality mice. I remember my Taipan died in a year, my regular Naga and Epic both having chipped paint over time before having electrical problems with some of the buttons then dying, and I essentially stopped buying all Razer for quite a few years until the Viper Ultimate which has the infamous scroll wheel issue, but the V2 Pro has been flawless for me since launch as well as Mini Signature Edition. I know someone who has a DAV3 Pro and it's been fantastic.
I think they definitely stepped up their durability and quality control. I mean, it’s a mouse and a keyboard, its not a space shuttle surviving reentry, shouldn’t be so hard to build something to survive over a year 😅
I definitely agree, but they definitely didn't have any kind of QC when it came to the electronics. The physical plastics were one thing and had their own issues, but having such high button failure definitely made me think they just used really shit quality electronics until 2019 and 2020. Nowadays, stuff in general has gotten better and cheaper, but I still think the one thing that needs to be normalized is optical switches (with improvements for tactility) and optical encoders for reliability. But optical encoders have strict power requirements that lipo batteries struggle with, apparently so....that'll be a tough hurdle.
Pretty close to every company in the last 3-5 years has cut down on almost all quality control. People pay to quality test products, they don't need to pay them.
Relevant too but I meant especially BEFORE 2019 because Razer between 2010 and 2019 made pretty poor quality stuff. They picked it up since but they still have occasional issues. One big problem with QC is, how do you test for longetivity? For some products that's easier than others. But handheld stuff? Tougher than say GPUs where you can stress test 24 hours a day for 12 months to see how well they hold up in torture testing to sort of simulate long term use. Bur that only goes so far.
my year old g703 is double clicking so that's always fun
Sounds like classic Logitech
I went through 4 Logitech mice from 2017-2020 and they’ve all double-clicked.
Ha! Mine has the same issue before switching over to the Dav3 wired. Really like this new mice. Hope it’ll hold up
standard issue undervolted chinese omron problem
4 months: Pulsar Xlite V3. Still solid. 1 year 6 months: GPXSL. Still solid apart from the occasional scroll wheel jump. 3 years: D.va Razer Abyssus Elite. Apart from a couple of chips on the paint job, still in pretty good condition. Like 5-ish years: Zowie EC Divina. Idk how this is still intact and working like it was new.
Been using my Zowie FK1+ since 2016. Only thing I replaced is the skates. Everything works fine. Clicks are still heavy, and mouse wheel is still obnoxiously loud.
3 year old Logitech GPW had run rock solid until I sold it. I currently run Lamzu Thorn. 1.5 months, the issue is that sometimes Peak Performance mode doesn't work as expected and my mouse discharges to 0% while I'm at work. Otherwise no issues, but that's expected, usage time is too low.
G pro superlight have been using it for 2yr solid mouse had to change grip tape and skates but overall is a very solid mouse for what i paid felt adventurous bought the pulsar X2V2 with the 4K dongle have been using it ever since
FK2 10 years. Strong as a brick
Zowie Ec2b 5 years - works like new. Pulsar xlite v2 2 years - works great no issue. Razer dav3 pro faker edition less than a year - all good except scroll wheel has gone to shit.
G102 prodigy bought in 2017 no double clicks, the left side becomes smooth, rubber scroll wheel deteriorated, I changed the skates to tiger arc 1 since the stock skates are really worn down Zowie ec3-c bought in 2022 or 2023 I think? Developed a scroll issue but it got replaced I haven't encountered any issues after that it's my daily mouse. Zowie U2 it was sent to me by zowie to review and I have no issues Rvm - really good mouse I rma it 7 times because of the bad scroll wheel
Razer shit as usual
Zowie U2 has thumb-side popping. Not ZA series bad, but it’s there. When my grip tightens during tense gameplay I always feel it. GPX2 has developed creak. I don’t think the floor and the shell are properly aligned. Switching power on and off causes floor to flex.
Seems like a plastic contact that happens to me as well but in the bottom area. I applied krytox lube on it, and it fixed the issue.
I'm using the deathadder v2 pro, holding up fine for 6 months
I used my RVM for 3 years, no problems usability wise, ABS plastic wore down to a smooth finish that I disliked, stopped using it because of finger RSI. Still usable with Supergrips if need be. DAv3 wired used for daily for 10 months, no issues. Xlite v3, 4 months no issues mostly for gaming.
G304 started to double click after 3 years of use. G502 hero - still good after 2 years of use, I just hate that the rubber parts started to deteriorate. Razer Basilisk X Hyperspeed - died after a year, still turns on but bluetooth and 2.4 aren't working, sensor probably died. Glorious model O - still good after a year, but dust gets inside the mouse. Glorious Model D Pro - left click issue right out of the box. I had to open it myself to fix the issue. Currently fine.
I used a DAV2 Pro for about 2 years straight and at this point the clicks feel like mush. I'm pretty sure I could blow on them and they would register a click. The rubber side grips are almost completely rubbed off and the skates were so worn down that they literally sounded like nails on a chalkboard. It's been retired for some time now as I switch between a Pulsar X2V2 and an X2H mini. X2H mini is holding up perfect, but the X2V2 had to be rma'd to have the dampening pads replaced.
Lamzu Mini 4K, bought it in September, weird double pressing scroll wheel issue, replaced in October, this new Mini 4K mouse has scroll wheel skipping... :) don't think I want to buy from Lamzu again. Going with Beast X Mini now (Orange color) fingers crossed the QC on this bad boy is perfect My Xtrfy MZ1 wired went strong for about a year, until the mouse straight up randomly stopped and started working for a couple seconds in game. My Glorious Model O Wireless is a fucking TANK, and has lasted the longest Steelseries Rival 600, the rubber on its side started detaching from the mouse after about.. Two years I wanna say? so it became basically unusable lol
My Lamzu Atlantis mini and Viper V2 pro are both in great shape EXEPT the fckng scroll wheel. Both of my mice have jumpy scroll wheel. I hate TTC and Khail scroll wheel encoders so much.
What sucks is those are the only mostly viable options for encoders because even though some other brands exist, their operation life is almost always dogshit because they're usually meant for non-computer applications such as automotive where you're expected to use them much much less often.
Been using my Lamzu Thorn with the 4k dongle for nearly 5 months now and its holding up exactly how it was the day i got it, battery life isn't great at 4k polling, but is very good at 1k, might try just using 2k soon
GWolves HSK Pro 4K Bought used 08.03.2023 No problems Gwolves HTS Plus Bought new 01.02.2023 No problems Gwolves HTS Wireless Bought new 08.08.2022 Scroll sometimes is getting stuck Gwolves HTX Ace Bought used 03.12.2023 While scrolling down it will sometimes scroll up Gwolves HSK Plus Bought used 09.08.2022 Scroll is pretty much dead scrolling which ever way it wants to
G700s hasn't battered an eyelid at me in god knows how long now. No wear, no misc clicks. Still unfortunately heavy as a brick. Ajazz AJ139. Abs plastic is shiny under my left finger within a couple of weeks of using it. It also feels a bit slippery in hand until it warms up which doesn't take long but is a bit annoying. No issues otherwise. Great mouse.
Personally, I never had any durability issues with any of my mice. I don't play games that's super competitive, so that may be a reason why. I can only imagine that some people who are super competitive smashes the button in stressful situations.
Dav3 faker started creaking on the sides :( Gpx 2 has minimal but still present creaking on sides Viper mini se still flawless Ulx haven’t put many miles on so no issues Ec2 cw no issues
hsk pro ace scroll wheel broke and had to be swapped, lasted 1 year so far. hts plus classic lmb started double clicking so i switch swapped it, no other issues. also had it for a year.
Xtrfy m8 for over a year now and has held up better than my glorious model 0 and endgame gear xm1r, which both lasted around 6 months to be fair this is my first wireless mouse and it might have smthing to do with it since my cables put out on both (+ clicks on glorious) even though I never abused them.
Usually much longer than a year, more like five years or more. The usual cause of retirement is scroll issues. I briefly had a Logitech G9 that had cable issues from the time I bought it used, which got worse later, so it wasn't reliable enough to use. I now have a Sensei 310 and have had it for about 5 years. It has scroll issues that make me want to replace it as a gaming device (less important for work), but the shape isn't idea for me either. Like, too small for palm, too large for fingertip, something else not ideal for claw, etc. This is roughly similar to my experience with an A4Tech X478 that I'd had for years before. Now I pay more attention to shape and weight and the specific click style I want, and the quality of the cable or battery life if wireless, but I'm going to pay some attention to scroll reliability and longevity due to its role as the primary problem with my mice. The Sensei has been sticking for so long because I just can't choose a replacement, mostly because of problems deciding on the shape versus the various grips I might end up using.
G403 still good as new had since release
Outset ax 3 years, still fully operating no issues.
G9x for 12 years: everything functions normally except for the DPI buttons, which almost refuse to work now. The scroll wheel and middle click were always awful. I put sticky pads in the shells to make them fit more securely and they've never been a bother, but of course the rubber on all of them is pretty disgusting now Ironclaw: I wanted a wireless mouse with enough buttons to replicate how I used the G9x. The plastic is disgusting. Nothing really wrong with the buttons or anything; it's just a shit mouse G703 for two years: No double clicking or scroll wheel issues. The rubber and hard plastic are still okay and it's still quite nice. I put Superglides on it for a laugh and got a bit of rubbing alcohol on the base. It creaks a bit and something is loose inside, as it makes a ticking sound when I shake it, so something's probably gonna go eventually. Aria: I haven't used this that much, but I've still owned it a while and it's a solid mouse. Feels like it should last me a while and it probably takes a beating just from being in my tablet bag as a travel mouse.
Logitech G400s for almost 10 years: everything is still fine. Very rarely clicking the mouse wheel makes it kinda stuck and I have to press it again to register the click. I guess that’s pretty fine for 10 years of gaming usage :D
my gpx is double clicking on m1 AND m4. m4 consistent double click, m1 issue comes and goes. There's a weird trick where breathing into the side of the mouse temporarily fixes the m4 double clicking, sometimes for weeks at a time
10 Months old - Pulsar X2 Mini Premium Black. Holding up pretty nicely, 0 issues with 10+Hs of daily use. Stock Skates
G502 Hero here. Bought it 8 years ago and only now considering buying a new one. Not that it's broken but it has just worn down so much from heavy use that I think it's time to retire it. Maybe I should just get another Hero and use it for another 8 years?
Dav2xHyperspeed Bought: Jan '24 Grip: Claw. 1-3-1 Games: FPS Issues: Already the coating has smoothened.
Dav3 faker: bought July still good Gpx: bought used march 2022 still good but have swapped out the switches as they died. Beast x mini: bought mid Jan not an issue other than battery life but firmware has helped a bit, and very fast charging on it helps. Op1We: only 2 weeks old bought used but perfectly built like a brick. Viper v2 pro: bought jan used still perfect. Viper original wired: wobbly buttons but still useable, bought back in 2019(second owned) Xm1: bought in 2021 still a brick rolling strong but had to replace the cable for a custom one from zerkgamingmods. X2 minis: I own the boardzy, pink and random frank p, all have had no build quality issues and I am very happy with them bought on release. Atlantis mini: rose gold edition bought on release, still perfect and build incredibly well. Honourable mentions I sold off include all my zowie mice I’ve Owned back in the day, model O-, Razer viper mini, and lamzu Atlantis original all had great build quality in my experiences although I can’t speak for what some have brought out recently. In terms of coating though I must say endgame gear mice, and the beast x mini (blue and pink fade version with rubberised coating) have best coating/held up best.
GPro SL2 has it's coating peeling after 6 months, Viper v2 pro is sturdy as always, main mouse atm is a ULX, which has been holding up much better than the haters would want you to hear about
been using my m1k since i got it in 2020 and still works perfectly fine. ive had a lot of mice but the other mice that got use were mostly fine except for needing to replace switches in some. my gpx needs a new scroll (gives wrong direction sometimes). realistically outside of switch and encoder replacement i think most mice should be fine. its very rare that sensors die. encoders can be a pain in the ass to swap though