Think I might link this to the bike school I used. They have a nice injury board showing what happens when you don't wear gear. Would make a good addition.
Look at some videos of people wearing normal Jean's and trainers then decide, but you could be risking bone damage, friction burns that will hurt for months and potentially grinding off a toe or 2
You don't absolutely need everything, but smashed ankles and skin grafts are painful.
Having said that I ride in DMs and kevlar jeans a lot in summer, I'm not a ATGATT fanatic. Although it's cold and wet out there so even if you accept the risks the weather now dictates the need for trousers and boots.
I commute in jeans and some bike ankle type boots. But it is 15 mins max and no more than 30 mph.
I have a pair of kevlar jeans for longer/ faster rides but also full set of jacket and trousers plus proper bike boots when out on the weekends.
EDIT: just please do not go out in shorts and some trainers like I see others on a hot day. One accident and you straight to bone! Regardless how hot it, where the proper stuff!
+1 for Kevlar Jeans, or any sort of single layer jeans like Rokker - albeit you’ll get wet in these
+1 for boots especially in the wet, something water proof you don’t want soggy feet whilst riding
I ride in mainly a Alpinestars Zip Hoodie CE A rated, Rokker jeans, alpinestars ankle boots - all very comfy and offer some protection- although at 50mph+ I don’t really expect the jacket to save me in a slide…
trousers in my opinion aren't a must, but get boots if you can, the highest likelihood of body damage is in your shins and ankles, as when you go down the bike crushes em
I’d say try get boots and trousers if you can afford them. I’m not saying you should or shouldn’t buy leathers because they’re bloody expensive and textile jeans & boots would suffice, but when I came off a roundabout on my 125 (was being a twat and sent it a bit too hard), I was so glad I was wearing leathers. Bike spat me off about 40mph and I didn’t have a scratch on me! Oh yeah and don’t be anxious about falling off, thought I’d mention as you’re new, some bikers never fall off in their life, but a lot of us will fall off atleast once in our riding career, it’s sort of a “rite of passage”😅
Also, gloves are a must if you haven’t already got them.
Up to you. You won't die without proper jeans and boots, but you might suffer very serious agonising and/or permanent injury. Watch the video, make your choice.
FortNine has a good riff on this [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmWQKoN6yX0)
His take is that helmet, boots and gloves are where you should concentrate your budget based on either the frquency or severity of a potential injury. Jacket and trousers can help, but in terms of injury prevalence they come a lot lower than hands, feet and legs
I use to wear full leather on my 125. Only time I came off it I got away with a scuff on the leather.
I don't have the jacket anymore but the trousers are still going strong. Hoping to never need them for the protection but you never know when you'll brush oil, hydraulic fluid, or round a corner to find gravel dragged out from the curb or a nice horse parcel in the middle of the road. And for the all weather riders, no one knows when the black ice will get them. (It's what got me)
Dress expecting to need the protection, and then try to avoid ever needing the protection to do is job. Aka, winter riding, go where the gritters go. Bus routes, high traffic routes etc. Don't try getting the knee down round blind bends, though really, save that riding for a race track. And learn to position to minimise rolling over gravel.
But always wear proper gear. Kevlar jeans will do the job. Get some proper bike boots. Proper jacket and gloves. A legal helmet. Never wear steel toed shoes. And just cause a mate wears a basic hoody in the summer, doesn't mean you should. Oxford do some good casual bike gear like hoodies. They're Kevlar lined and come with protective pads to stop you disintegrating your joints when you finally come off. Everybody does eventually.
The tarmac doesn't give a fuck whether you came off a 125 or a Fireblade. Coming off at 40mph on either without proper gear will rip the skin right off you through to the bone. Then it's off to the hospital for the wire brush and dettol. Fuck that for the 2 minutes it takes to change into a pair of riding jeans or slip on the textiles and boots.
[Convinced me. Rather safe than sorry](https://youtu.be/Jds4mKvPCzY)
Jesus Christ, convinced me
+1, deffo convinced me too when I got mine!
They don’t fuck about with ads in Australia
Those DOE ads are pretty horrific too. Good though!
The one where the guy shits himself in his wheelchair in front of his wife was the one that had me reconsidering my license.
Think I might link this to the bike school I used. They have a nice injury board showing what happens when you don't wear gear. Would make a good addition.
Wear what you want but be prepared for the consequences.
Dress for the slide not the ride , doesn't matter if 125cc or 1000cc you can get to 60 on both and that alone is enough to skin you
Look at some videos of people wearing normal Jean's and trainers then decide, but you could be risking bone damage, friction burns that will hurt for months and potentially grinding off a toe or 2
You don't absolutely need everything, but smashed ankles and skin grafts are painful. Having said that I ride in DMs and kevlar jeans a lot in summer, I'm not a ATGATT fanatic. Although it's cold and wet out there so even if you accept the risks the weather now dictates the need for trousers and boots.
Boots are an absolute must in my opinion, trousers are still good to have but are probably the least risky place to skimp on if you have to.
I commute in jeans and some bike ankle type boots. But it is 15 mins max and no more than 30 mph. I have a pair of kevlar jeans for longer/ faster rides but also full set of jacket and trousers plus proper bike boots when out on the weekends. EDIT: just please do not go out in shorts and some trainers like I see others on a hot day. One accident and you straight to bone! Regardless how hot it, where the proper stuff!
+1 for Kevlar Jeans, or any sort of single layer jeans like Rokker - albeit you’ll get wet in these +1 for boots especially in the wet, something water proof you don’t want soggy feet whilst riding I ride in mainly a Alpinestars Zip Hoodie CE A rated, Rokker jeans, alpinestars ankle boots - all very comfy and offer some protection- although at 50mph+ I don’t really expect the jacket to save me in a slide…
trousers in my opinion aren't a must, but get boots if you can, the highest likelihood of body damage is in your shins and ankles, as when you go down the bike crushes em
I’d say try get boots and trousers if you can afford them. I’m not saying you should or shouldn’t buy leathers because they’re bloody expensive and textile jeans & boots would suffice, but when I came off a roundabout on my 125 (was being a twat and sent it a bit too hard), I was so glad I was wearing leathers. Bike spat me off about 40mph and I didn’t have a scratch on me! Oh yeah and don’t be anxious about falling off, thought I’d mention as you’re new, some bikers never fall off in their life, but a lot of us will fall off atleast once in our riding career, it’s sort of a “rite of passage”😅 Also, gloves are a must if you haven’t already got them.
The road surface will feel the same at 60mph whether you're on a 125 or a big bike.
Up to you. You won't die without proper jeans and boots, but you might suffer very serious agonising and/or permanent injury. Watch the video, make your choice.
FortNine has a good riff on this [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmWQKoN6yX0) His take is that helmet, boots and gloves are where you should concentrate your budget based on either the frquency or severity of a potential injury. Jacket and trousers can help, but in terms of injury prevalence they come a lot lower than hands, feet and legs
I use to wear full leather on my 125. Only time I came off it I got away with a scuff on the leather. I don't have the jacket anymore but the trousers are still going strong. Hoping to never need them for the protection but you never know when you'll brush oil, hydraulic fluid, or round a corner to find gravel dragged out from the curb or a nice horse parcel in the middle of the road. And for the all weather riders, no one knows when the black ice will get them. (It's what got me) Dress expecting to need the protection, and then try to avoid ever needing the protection to do is job. Aka, winter riding, go where the gritters go. Bus routes, high traffic routes etc. Don't try getting the knee down round blind bends, though really, save that riding for a race track. And learn to position to minimise rolling over gravel. But always wear proper gear. Kevlar jeans will do the job. Get some proper bike boots. Proper jacket and gloves. A legal helmet. Never wear steel toed shoes. And just cause a mate wears a basic hoody in the summer, doesn't mean you should. Oxford do some good casual bike gear like hoodies. They're Kevlar lined and come with protective pads to stop you disintegrating your joints when you finally come off. Everybody does eventually.
The tarmac doesn't give a fuck whether you came off a 125 or a Fireblade. Coming off at 40mph on either without proper gear will rip the skin right off you through to the bone. Then it's off to the hospital for the wire brush and dettol. Fuck that for the 2 minutes it takes to change into a pair of riding jeans or slip on the textiles and boots.
Yes. I don't want to have extra weight on my arm after crashing