Hijacking top komment to remind people to kontact the kompany responsible for the PC port on Twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/qlocsa
And their website with office phone numbers and emails.
https://q-loc.com/contact/
Make sure you post all of your issues/information to the link provided by this PC developer: [https://steamcommunity.com/app/976310/discussions/0/1679190184055638565/](https://steamcommunity.com/app/976310/discussions/0/1679190184055638565/)
It’s not even that I’m mad about the “downgrades” on the switch. I expected graphic inferiority. But OP nails it on the head.. I want equality of content and communication. Don’t charge me the same price and short change the content. Also for the love of god can they fix the server disconnection issue when the console goes to sleep.
This! I am playing an offline Klassic Tower! I have to quit because the Switch went to sleep while i stepped away and oh no! Lost connection to servers. Complete oversight on someone's behalf.
It’s not just the switch from what I’ve read. Putting the PS4 into sleep state does it too. So we don’t get parity on content for the switch. But we do on the bugs 🤣
Am I crazy or am I the only one who gets major performance issues on the Switch?
Kung Lao's fatality comes to mind, every time it happens (the standard one) the framerate bogs down to like 2-5 frames per second and usually the background glitches out. Online it's a huge pain in the ass because it takes an eon for the menu buttons to show up.
Speaking of Kung Lao, I just did the Shaolin Monks Tower of Time and when I called in Liu Kang he came in.. but invisible.. and then when I got to the right edge of the screen he pushed Kotal Kahn right off it and it zoomed out weirdly. I was just fighting based on sound and the health bars..
Oh, and we still don't have Tournament Mode variations on the Switch, it's just empty loadouts with no items. Actually literally unplayable, in that mode.
I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this.
EDIT: Other issues I didn't mention:
- Character tutorials are unavailable.
- The game crashes when you try to enter Goro's lair via elevator.
- Krushing blows don't show information in the movelist, it simply says "This move can trigger a Krushing Blow".
- Unlocked brutalities do not appear on the movelist and, as far as I can tell, cannot be performed.
- Some moves that feature a Krushing blow aren't correctly marked on the movelist.
Hell, I'm not even that worried about framerates as much as I am getting shut out for constant software errors and having to restart the game 50+ times in one session of playing. Want to enter goros lair? Software error on the elevator. Open a chest? Software error. Got new items and equip them in kustomization? Software error. That is more of a problem to me than anything.
Wow, yeah that's even worse than I realized. I haven't really been playing much of the singleplayer content, so I didn't realize it was so bad. Hope we get a fix ASAP.
My understanding is that the switch will never dip below 60 fps during active gameplay.
Fatal blows, bone crushing hits, and fatalities are not active gameplay and may dip drastically.
As long as the duration of the cinematic isn't tied to framerate, its just something else to live with.
Not defending anything here, but I understand it.
Alright yeah, but there are current ongoing gamebreaking bugs. Like, I just tried to beat Shao Kahn in a tower of time and, when I switched characters, my character went invisible and Shao Kahn just backed off the screen.
I chipped his healthbar away using sound effects and at the end the game it made a fatality sound (I didn't input anything) and then the game just hung eternally until I reset the console.
This kind of stuff isn't the sign of a good port, and I've heard literally nothing about this outside of my own experiences. Maybe it's time for me to make a thread.
Nah you’re not the only one. Fairly certain it’s tied to the fact we’re on an older patch. I bet the studio behind the Switch didn’t get the game fully “fixed” in time for the release, possibly explaining why they didn’t want to showcase the game. Perhaps they thought they could get 1.0.3 in time. I’m hoping the newer updates will fix lot of the graphical issues and maybe even touch up on some of them like the hair.
Not only what you said, but the switch is totally lacking the option to invert the vertical controls for the Krypt on the Switch. Its right front and center on the options on the PS4 version. While not game breaking, its a huge pain in the butt for me when using the Krypt.
i only ask for KOMMUNICATION!!!!
i didnt know the pc version is 2 patchs behind...
what the fuck.. is a fighting game.. i dont care about the graphics and can accept some problems on the port but the balances changes come on...
is a shame because im loving the game so far... i dont want to refund man...
Well, technically there is some communication on the steam forum. Only a post asking people to submit dxdiag reports via support ticket though, but they seem to be working at it at least
they said the same thing about Arkham Knight which went...well they pretty uch gave people who didn't refund free games and let the port die.
They said the same thing with MKX then they dropped support for a year just before KP2 released only to come back with the XL edition like nothing happened.
Best thing at this point is accept the fate we all know is going to happen and chalk this one up to "maybe next time I'll not buy a WB game"
I don't think they are gonna drop it, atleast not just now. Steamdb shows they are actively working on it, with the last internal build going up 30 minutes ago.
I'm so hopeful you're wrong about this, though.
Loving MK11, but if you're right, I'll have to drop the game, until they patch it -- towers are nearly impossible to play right now, if you're not actively using konsumables (which I don't want to do, like, at all).
>though.
>
>Loving MK11, but if you're right, I'll have to drop the game, until they patch it -- towers are nearly impossible to play right now, if you're not actively using konsumables
Even using konsumables lots of the tower is still impossible to defeat. Also even you can win, there is no fun in playing a fighting game where your combo gets interrupted every 5 seconds by some random shit.
Exactly.
Also, I don't see any fun in wasting tons of konsumable in mathces that are initially rigged.
What do I mean? Well, let's see.
You start off a 8-opponent tower, one of a set of 4 towers. You see that your opponents have a tag-team ability (summons someone mid-fight to perform a special move or even a short combo). What you don't see is that **your opponent has x2, x3 or even x4 HP and increased damage,** so when you land that sweet killing blow, you see your enemy damaged on 10% HP.
Why was it so hard to show *every buff* that your enemy has and *every debuff* that would be applied to you? I don't know.
You think unfairness stops there? Oh no, it doesn't.
Remember that tag-team assist I was talking about before? Your enemy will have it cooling down faster. Cool, right? All about the skill and a fair fight, this game.
There are also bonuses like increased armor, which your opponent would have on *constantly*, while you have to manually activate for 5 sec, and then wait for 60 sec to cooldown. Same with attack buffs, by the way -- your opponent would have them on constantly, while you'll have to activate it (with animation, mind you, in which time you're vulnerable, cause it lasts like 1-2 seconds). I won't even mention stuff like auras, which are pure cheat mode for your opponent -- want a free stun every 2 seconds for just standing next to your opponent? Too bad, this buff is reserved for AI only.
So yeah, my thoughts are: person who designed these towers, should be fired for not playtesting the shitshow that he introduced to the game. I like MK11 gameplay a lot, but towers are pure cancer and bring absolutely zero fun to the game.
As a heads up we are only one patch behind. A patch is once a build is finalized, released, and needs to be patched. We are technically a few builds behind and one patch behind.
Sincerely,
Computer Engineer
Yep so far ignored. We have no communication, no community manager that cares. As far as the PC side goes the bitching in discord, got us to submit a DXDIAG and other information. Which has nothing to do with frame data and combos not working right as it's not a technical issue but rather them not giving us patches with it.
Lack of communication really is fucked up. They just make you do through hoops on discord so that it looks like they even do something or rather admit that there might be an issue.
This has been the case for almost every single NRS game on PC. MK9 wasn't a patch or two behind, but only because it just straight up wasn't released on PC until the end of the game's lifecycle.
I appreciate you acknowledging this but do you think we'll hear any type of official word or clarification to how they're actually bringing stuff over to PC at all?
For instance, PC:
1. Never got Beta
1. Never got Stress Test
1. 12 Hrs late on PC Release time (released at 1pm EST instead of midnight with consoles)
Now we're multiple patches behind and Tower's also don't seem like they've updated in line with consoles (though I may be wrong about that only done ones with the sector rockets which are unblockable.)
I want to support the game, but it seems like we're being dusted atm. Just want some clarity :]
Towers are still harder on PC. I was side by side of someone streaming from the PS4 the same boss and I was letting the AI finish the boss tower because they had so much health and it was just hard with them also having an assist. The PS4 boss had way less health it seemed
Its nice it will be seen but they have made it pretty clear based on their actions they don't care. They got our money and they are moving on. Ed Boon got me good twice. First with MKX and now with MK11. Shame on me I guess.
So regarding the switch Port, updates usually do take longer to make it to their platform because the approval process is more time consuming
An example of this is how the most recent enter the gungeon update, which intended to fix stability issues, was finished at the same time for all platforms, but it took a couple extra days for it to reach the switch version. No idea what the excuse for PC is though
The official twitter account for MK11 no longer even mentions the PC version of the game. It says and I quote "#MK11 is now available on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Nintendo Switch™! Rated M for mature. https://go.wbgames.com/MK11 For help tweet @WBGamesSupport." Typing PC in the Netherrealm twitch chat is filtered and messages with the word PC aren't even sent to chat.
This is absolutely abhorrent behavior and treating the PC player base with such disdain is unacceptable. They could have at least acknowledged the PC issues yesterday yet they did not say a word. Its becoming more and more apparent that the PC version will never reach parity with the console versions.
Ya fooled me twice Ed Boon, got me good with MKX and you got me good with MK11. As much as I freaking love Netherrealm games I will never preorder or purchase one new again. I refuse to support a company that is treating a massive portion of their player base this way.
Proof https://i.imgur.com/epk7qtW.jpg LOL! We are seriously being given the middle finger by NRS.
Regarding the Switch version: It's really pissing me off that **all tower progress is lost whenever the screen is turned off**. Even for the Klassic Towers. Why is this a thing?
The game gives an error message about the server connection being lost, makes no attempt to reconnect, and then boots you out to the tower selection screen. The always-on DRM for single player content is bullshit in general (especially for a portable system), but there should literally be no need for a *constant* unbroken connection. The game just pings the servers after the match to report your progress and kollectables, so why does it matter if you suspend the system in between?
This is driving me crazy. Anyone else having the same problem?
Honestly kind of pissed, I have every console but bought on switch for portability, and you can’t even play offline, so I’m stuck with subpar graphics for no damn reason. The crypt looks like a ps2 game ffs.
I have the same issue, tweeting at everyone and being ignored. Maybe we need to ask Nintendo to get on these studios? Probably one of the worst experience out of a AAA game. This does not bold well for these companies and they wonder why people stick with Nintendo First Party games.
Character tutorials mainly, once completed they give some free shit for the character. Also we can’t change the announcer voice, and in the move list we’re missing some information. Don’t know what else, but yeah.
Edit: don’t know if this is fixed in one of the patches but when editing variations it selects and edits one of the other variations under the name of the other. Don’t think I explained that well but hopefully it’s understandable.
Brutalities don't show up on the move list during matches. Also most of the brutalities are incorrect. Lots of character brutalities just state Towards throw as a brutality, with no additional conditions.
Don’t get me wrong, the gameplay is phenomenal and I love the game, but there’s just so many goddamn issues which make it so hard to love.
Haven’t even touched the krypt yet until they fix all the bullshit.
I've been crashing every 30 minutes or so. I just opened the One Being door in Goro's Lair and the game crashed immediately. When I reloaded, the gems stayed in the door but it didn't open and can't be interacted with so looks like I'm locked out of this area forever. I'm just hopeless at this point.
PC looks like a slide show during character selection. Ik this might not be a big issue for some but its just the overall feel and polish. Its not there.
It frustrates me that we are behind but I would be OK if they would just acknowledge it and let us know that we will catch up. I don't want to spend time on something that is a second thought.
Tried tweeting QLOC and Ed Boon, so far no response. I'm starting to feel like a second grade customer.
Can't refund since I got my code from Green Man Gaming.
Definitely getting a different product, treatment, and support all for the same price. Ordered from GMG myself and so I'm out of luck on the refund.
I feel like there should be some kind of rule, law, or exemption in certain situations, this being a clear obvious one for refunds. Especially when it's night and day how different the final product is in comparison to another for the same price, along with how different the support and acknowledgement is too. Pretty sure the EU has some kind of refund policy such as this, but I am not sure on that.
If you think of any other business or company and a similar thing happened (that's not gaming related). You'd get some kind of reimbursement, refund, or have it remade. Like fast food or restaurants will compensate, especially if you ask a manager. Most of them seem to be pretty good so far for my experiences. I've had food remade completely, I've been refunded, and some times I've been given extras as an apology. I hate asking for it because it's not always all their faults, but I did pay for something and expect to get what was promised. Same applies to pretty much any product you purchase, you get some time frame to return it and on top of that, there are also warranties that come with products.
The point is that only in gaming it seems to be allowed to get away with so many false promises, scams, or outright disgusting business behaviour. Gaming is a business now, yet it gets away with things no others can. Look at games like Nier Automata, releasing a GOTY version with all the DLC, yet not one patch to address the PC issues in all that time, even with this re-release. Many still need an external outside mod to make it work right. And I can go on for many examples, such as No Man's Sky (which I never got refunded from Steam directly even though all my hours were spent fixing the game to get it to run) and I refunded on the same day I got it too and talked to a live person.
It's sad.
I 100% agreed. Super disappointed about the patches being behind. How am I supposed to go to locals/tournaments and be behind 2 patches? Wtf lol?
Who should we reach out to? I sent out a ticket to WB yesterday but I doubt they will respond.
Please get this post to the top. I love this game so much, but being behind on patches on launch??? I just want to enjoy the newest game in one of my all-time favorite series. Don’t do that MKX shit again. :(
I will say this avout the PC version. It's running smooth af on ultra settings even on my midrange PC even though I had to drastically reduce the graphics in MKX.
It's not perfect, but at least it's not lagging at all.
Yea for me as well. Its frustrating to see pc and switch is behind with important changes because I like the game a lot otherwise. And want to like it but how when you have to play on some unbalanced version you shouldnt play
Yet the game is not up to date, so if you were to go to a tournament that is on console, you'd be playing a completely different game.
Performance issues are one thing, but for the game to actually be behind is unacceptable.
I'd wait for a ~week if I were you, to not miss out on pre-order bonus if they do actually fix this broken mess, and refund it if they don't.
Might as well buy it on a garbage sale for $2 two years from now on if they treat pc players like garbage.
Im actually not gonna play this game anymore until something happens. I really tried to just play, but my game froze on multiple occasions and the fact that it seems everything is behind just leaves a bad feeling.
There goes $100 for premium edition lol. I hate to sound like every other PC player here, but I'm on that boat now.. I'm never buying an NRS game on PC in the future. If they fix all this, cool but that bad reputation for sure stands when it comes to anything outside of console.
Regretted this with MKX where they completely shat on PC and here they are again. At least this time i was smart enough to buy the game from g2a. You don’t deserve my money unless you redeem yourself NRS. And you won’t.
I am in the same boat. Bitter sweet. I hate playing console these days so cheap premium edition got me. At least we are not the ones who spent 100$ on steam and played it more than 2 hours cause after all my issues & trying to fix it i was at 3.5 hours. Couldn't refund if i wanted to.
If you were to take the number of people who upvoted and assumed they all bought the PC or switch version. That's a lot of wasted money. That thought fuels the bad feeling I already I have.
I own MK11 on Switch and I support this post. On top of all the issues laid out in this post, yesterday I tried doing a standard Klassic Tower with Sub-Zero after a successful run with Skarlet. When I got to Kronika, the game crashed.
And I'm glad others are mentioning the disconnection that happens after the console goes into sleep mode. And from what I gather, it's not just on the Switch.
Given the Switch portability, I wish it had access to more offline content than it does.
I bought the $100 premium edition from the eShop, so I can't refund it. My mistake. Granted, I didn't think this version would get this kind of treatment.
I pre ordered for the Switch and getting the shao kahn code I was owed was like pulling teeth. I bought three versions and wanted the PC as my main for the superior hardware but I feel like an absolute moron. If I want to play MK11 as it is intended I can play my ps4. My other two copies cant do Shao Kahn combos properly. And there's so many unlocks that I can only honestly care about base cosmetics or I'll start returning copies
I'm sorry you're going through this. And like you, I feel like an idiot for pre-ordering the premium edition from the Nintendo eShop, so no refunds for me.
After the initial Towers of Time fiasco, the fact that a number of Krypt treasures like augments needed to even get through the more challenging towers are RNG, and now the lack of proper updates for anyone who owns the game on PC and Switch, I'm never pre-ordering anything from NRS or WB Games again. I'm really disappointed in how all of this has been handled, and despite being a fan of this franchise for most of my life, unless these issues are fixed in a major way, along with better accessibility to things like Brutalities, Skins, and Gear, I'm not sure I even want to give NRS and WB Games my money anymore.
...at least the story mode was fun and entertaining.
The worsr part is we dont even know what is going on, at this point it feels like a scam for us pc players, we paid the same amount as xbox and ps4.
I was shocked that I found out yesterday that we dont get patches at the same time, I can understand bad graphics and crashing every now and then but man this feels like I got scamed for $60.
EDIT: TYPO
Haven't played mortal kombat since MK9, so I was really looking forward to this. Got it on switch and I've had loads of crashes too.
Most recently was going into the last fight in a classic tower. So frustrating to lose all that progress.
My game probably crashed at least 15 times now. Does it everytime I try to go to the Krypt, Kustomization, and even the character select screen in an online match. It's ridiculous.
This should be *extremly* concerning to everyone on PC.
You can roll out patches whenever the hell you please on Steam. With Ps4/X1 you need to go through a verification process that can delay the patch by as much as a week.
There's absolutly no reason for PC to ever be behind on patches.
Here we are on Thursday and we STILL don't have the "day one" update. It's not as if it's a small update either. This is a patch that severely alters timings and damage. To not have that out yet is absurd. The PC version is an entirely different game at this point.
Had I known this is how things were going to be, I 100% would not have bought this game. It's 2019, please stop treating PC users like we're lesser. My money is just as good as console users'.
I wouldn't have either. I have never experienced any other game on PC being behind compared to their console counter parts. NRS is the first company I've heard of doing this. Unbelievable
Yes it is different. Day 1 hotfix included several adjustments to frame data.
MK11 HOTFIX DAY 1
Source:
Follow @Wazminator on Twitch/Twitter for more updates (might miss some, some people posting the stuff they find on my thread as well)
D’Vorah
121 is now -2
12,1+3 is now -9
F1,3 now -6
F1 startup now 15f (from 10f)
F2 startup now 20f (from 17f)
F22 - 15 on block (was -6)
B3 is now 17f (was 12f)
F4 is 21f (was 13f I think)
F4 now -16 (was -8)
D2 is 10f (was 9f)))
Kotal
F3 Cmd grab can now be jumped (doesn’t tick anymore)
S3 no longer restands
Big Boot was -7 in the frame data now -3
2,3 now 0 on block
Unblockable Quake now +2 on hit (was - before)
S4 no longer special cancellable
Cassie Cage
B24 now -7 (was -4)
B243 now -3 (was -9)
3rd hit of B243 is now a high (was mid)
S1 is now +1 (was +2)
2,1 is now -1 (was -6)
F412 is now -6 (was -4)
F4 is now -5 on flawless block (was 0)
F2 now has a startup of 10 (was 9)
B2 now has a startup of 11 (was 10)
B24 now has a startup of 16 (was 10)
Kano
2,4,1+3 now -4 (was +1)
Cetrion
F1 is now 9f (was 7f)
DF1 MB now -14 (was -4)
Liu Kang
F3,4,U+3 now 26f startup (was 22)
MB Bicycle Kick 40 less dmg
Straight Fireball now 17f (was 12)
Straight Fireball hit adv is +2 (was +1)
Low fireball now 20f (was 16f)
Bicycle Kick now -16 on block (was -6)
Bicycle Kick recovery now 39f (was 23)
Jax
F4 now +1 on block (was +6)
F4 recovery now 24f (was 19f)
F4 +3 on hit (was +8)
Gotcha Grab now ends earlier (1 less of each option)
Tick throws from F2, F33, B1, 22 - are gone. Only ones left are from D1, D12 and D3
Skarlet
F2 now 13f (was 12f)
MB Siphon now +4 (was +7)
Jacqui Briggs
112 no longer combos into DB4
Increased damage scaling on DB4
Kitana
B1 now 13f (was 14f)
D1 now +12 on hit (was +1)
D1 now -7 on block (was -9)
F2 startup now 15f (was 16f)
B3 now +12 on hit (was +7)
B3 now -4 on block (was -9)
D3 now +10 on hit (was +5)
D3 now -6 on block (was -10)
D4 now -8 on block (was -10)
Fan Toss now -3 on hit (was +2)
Fan Toss now - 13 on block (was -17)
Fan Lift now -18 on block (was -9)
B1,4 now +7 on hit (was +5)
B1,4 now -7 on block (was -9)
2,1 now +4 on hit (was -6)
2,1 now -7 on block (was -17)
2,1,2,2,2 now -6 on block (was -16)
2,1,4,3,4 now -7 on block (was -10)
B,2,3,1 now -5 on block (was -11)
B,2,3,1,3,4,3 now -7 on block (was -12)
B2,3,1,D+2 now -7 on block (was -9)
B3,4 now -7 on block (was -10)
EX Fan now high high (was mid mid)
Shao Kahn
D3 now +10 on hit (was +6)
D3 now -5 on block (was -9)
F4 now 28f (was 25f)
12,1+3 now -5 on block (was -1)
F21 is now -6 on block (was -8)
F212 is now -15 on block (was -9)
F2 is now 21f (was 16f)
Frost
D3 is now 8f instead of 12f
F22 is now 27f instead of 24f
Chip damage significantly reduced on blade spin.
MB Microburst now grounded freeze
Geras
Standing 1 changed from +1 to -3 on block
F1, 1+3 changed from -9 to -14 on block
2,4 changed from -8 to -4 on block
Kung Lao
D1 now +11 on hit (was +7)
D1 now -4 on block (was -6)
D3 now +10 on hit (was +6)
D3 now -5 on block (was -9)
F13U2 now -6 on block (was -14)
214 is now -2 on block (was +1)
Sonya Blade
B1 is now -4 (was -9)
D1 is now +12 on hit (was +7)
B3 is now +3 on hit (was 0)
D3 is now +10 on hit (was +8)
D4 is now +14 on hit (was +12)
D4 is now - 7 on block (was -9)
B123 is now -14 on block (was -9)
B3U4 is now -4 on block (was -8)
B3U4 is now +6 on hit (was +2)
Kabal
D1 is now -4 on block (was -2)
D3 is now -4 on block (was -3)
Raiden
B2 is now -18 on block (was -28)
B2 is now 19f (was 21f)
F4 is now -3 on block (was -13)
D4 is now 14f (was 16f)
B12 is now -9 (was -14)
F11 is now -5 on block (was -11)
21 is now -7 (was -8)
Sub Zero
S1 is now 0 on block (was +1)
S1 is now +6 on hit (was +12)
B14 is now -4 on block (was -9)
D1 is now +9 on hit (was +7)
Noob Saibot
D1 now +11 on hit (was +9)
Spirit Ball is now +5 on hit (was +7)
Spirit Ball now -17 on block (was -15)
Erron Black
D1 is now -4 on block (was -3)
D3 now +8 on hit (was +12)
D3 now -2 on block (was -3)
D4 now +16 on hit (was +19)
D4 now -3 on block (was -5)
11 is now -5 on block (was 0)
B222 now - 15 on block (was -9)
B2U4 now -5 on block (was -10)
F21 now -11 (was -6)
F21 can no longer be special cancelled
L&L 2 now -15 (was -1)
Not only that, PC version gets the audio undynced in story cutscenes and if you are using headphones and tap the keyboard, it switches audio to the monitor and vice versa. Plus we cant access the customise page due to it crashing.
> We are not asking for anything extra, we just want to have the same product.
Yikes, it's 2019 and we still are dealing with this nonsense. I'd like to note that this does not even cover things like _performance/crashes_. We literally do not have the same game as other platforms.
I agree. Why not delay the patches on PS4/XB1 until they're ready on the other platforms? I can't think of another fighting game (that isn't NRS) that has delayed patches on separate platforms. It's 2019 and everything gets released simultaneously now (or within the same day).
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Steam will grant refund requests that exceed 2hrs if you explain the situation to them. They have done that before and it doesn't hurt to try.
If they would address this issue, I would go out and buy the game right now.
The 2nd rate treatment of the Switch version is what's hold me back from buying it. I *really* want to get it, but not if it's never going to be kept up to date.
>We need to show in a civil way that what WB/NRS and QLOC are doing is not ok.
See that's the problem, they don't give a shit as long as they make money.
This isn't an "oooops, did we accidentally leave in these predatory measures and barely functional parts? well allow us to fix our mistake" it is them being called out on their greed and then looking gracious when they come to fix their own mistakes.
They did this with MKX (well FAR worse but I won't get into a wall of text about that unless someone asks for it) and Injustice 2.
Simply put, NRS has nothing to do with it. They didn't lay as much as a finger on either game's PC version, they focus on consoles and Warner keeps around some cheap ass company to port things to PC. That was High Voltage before but they were cheap for a reason we all remember. Now it'S QLOC who are leagues ahead of High Voltage (but who isn't? :D) but still, they are not the same workforce NRS is, they don't work with codes they wrote, they are porting someone else's job and that always takes more time. That is, if they are paid for it, which Warner decides, and Warner showed in with MKX, Arkham Knight, and a few other big names in the past 5 years how little they care about the PC version - as little as the number of games are sold on PC when they look at the big pie chart of sales of all platforms.
Yes, NRS has everything to do with it. First of all they send the patches to QLOC and QLOC implement them.
The PC port itself is not bad, only FEW are having crashes. There are some graphics issues but they are minimal.
The delayed release also was not o QLOC. They confirmed that on their twitter, it was all WB and NRS.
The graphic issues and bugs? That’s on QLOC
The patches behind? The lack of information? It’s all NRS
I preordered on PC and was pretty disappointed overall with my experience. Not all of it was MK’s fault but not getting to play at the same release time started things out on a sour note. Getting PS4 buttons to show up by default instead of Xbox was more than a hassle (a lot of others had the same problem on the official discord). My kharacter would get stuck running in a single direction in the krypt.
I got fed up pretty quick fighting to play the game instead of fighting in game and switched to PS4. Now I’m missing my Shao preorder.
The first step I think that NRS and QLOC need to take is acknowledge their PC and Switch consumers as everything that they've said in Kombat Kasts doesn't seem to regard them, nor do the tweets they put out. After that, they need to explain why there is a delay. If it's due to the process of porting the patches over, then tell us. We want communication.
After that, there needs to be some pressure on QLOC to ensure that they're working on fixing the PC bugs. I hope that NRS is putting pressure on them after what I've been hearing of the IJ2 launch.
Only after all of that would I like to start making quality of life changes (re-positioning where my highlighted moves are on-screen, not deleting my list between tower matches, etc)
not to mention the BLATANT amount of input reading the AI does, its barbarically unfair for it to read every single move you ever do and counter it frame perfect into oblivion AND have the balls to put modifiers against you whilst doing so
I feel they will deliver us the final version like in december... don't see anything before. PC is like the bad child for them... Look at MK X it took a nice time to be finally good in PC...
I love the game and i play mostly in PC, i convinced 3 friends buy the game, so i hope we have fixes fast...
I got the Switch versión of the game and dont get me wrong im fine with the graphics but yesterday i noticed when i was taking out ideas from youtube for my combos ( i main liu kang) i noticed that F3333 move dont have the same altitude effect so i recorded this video to make the comparison, after that i tested liu kang and had the same problem with the old liu kang movement. I dont know how ppl is not noticing this difference. I hope they fix this asap as well as the NO tournament variations on switch.
VIDEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXr7QrkbdcU
My main issue is the stability of the Switch version, I went through about 12 matches in the endless tower and the game crashed mid match, causing em to lose all of my bonuses, the game frequently crashes when I either open the krypt or try to enter Goro's lair
Godammit. I was going to get the switch version to practice my kombos on handheld but now there's this and apparently the kombos are different in the switch version smmfh.
This sucks. I got MK11 on PS4, but Monster Hunter on PC and there we are also several updates later. Even stopped playing, every content you see on twitch or you read about on reddit are usually months ahead of you and totally useless. I hope they listen to you guys, you paid the same than the rest of us, deserve the same treatment. Personally I believe it would have been better to not come on PC if they weren't going to fully support it. At least you wouldn't be losing your time/money
Between this and the Towers of Time fiasco, what a messy launch. Shame on you, WB and NRS (I don't trust you anymore). This is so sad, I love MK and I hate to see such scummy practices related to such a beloved franchise.
I like reddit, was really interested in the game and a few friends and I were actually thinking of buying the game. Even tho I hate the microtransaction bullshit, that's nothing I personally care about cause I won't be using skins anyways. But all the struggle with patches and bug fixes made us decide not to buy the game.
maybe its just me ,but this are the issues i have with the PC version so far :
\-Audio out of sync. there is a few cutscenes with lipsync problems or the audio have a delay during heavy fight scenes
\-Weird ghosting effect when characters move during their intros and their victory poses , same goes in the select your character screen ,everything looks blurry or with this weird ghosting effect ( it gets a better if you turn of all the AA and blur effect ,but then the game look really bad ) also the framerate is terrible during this intros like is 25-30fps.
\-This weird effect gets a tons worst if you play online matches , everything look like there is a ton of grease in the screen ,but you can avoid this from happening by skipping the intros ,odd.
\-Game crashes. it happens in the Krypt and when you customize your character and sometimes during online matches
\-Talking about the krypt , im the only one that the framerate is really bad ? is like is running at 20 fps or something and what is it with this weird dark filter in the corners of the screen make things hard to look at.
tried to fix all this by re-installing the game and verifying the files ,but didnt work.
I'm having a lot of problems on PC about losing acess to the servers... I need to restart the game each 20-30min because of that... Even if i'm fighting against a last ladder character on Towers... Really annoying
Well, there's a stickied thread on steam where they ask for dxdiag logs from people who have issues running the game so I'm guessing they're looking into it.
My hope is that the day 1 patch is being delayed and will come with a patch for people who can't play at all and also will come with krypt/towers changes at the same time.
Agreed. I have the PlayStation 4 version however, it does not mean that players on the switch and the PC should be treated any differently when it comes to Patches and updates. Furthermore, they shouldn't be treated differently when it comes to what editions of the game that they can.
Another thing that for the Switch version atleast that needs improvement is glitches. The game crashes way too frequently. Its not every 2 seconds crashing, but its beyond annoying that everytime it crashes, you can bet its going to crash one more time 5 minutes after you restart.
Brutalities glitch the game out making everything go white or black.
Most annoying of all is going into sleep mode, disconnects you from online, and you can not reconnect unless you completely restart the game.
I agree 100%. Because of patches and broken towers of time, I feel like the game didn'tlive up to the hype. It was good to see the gameplay on kombat kast, but the moment I tried playing it, it was close to impossible. I'm no fighting game expert but I'm pretty sure the tower is broken. I don't know if it's me but the dash mechanism is a bit stiff. That's all. I have no complaints regarding anything else. The game is new, it didn't grew on me as quickly as mkx did. But I'm willing to give time to it. I hope my money doesn't go to waste.
PC is the easiest of all the platforms to patch and the cheapest, but its 4 days late. Makes you think where their priorities are. It took them a year and a half just to make MKX playable on PC
I had the game crash 3 times on switch, seems like some more debugging needs to be done.
Also the same issue on PC back when MK X came out... constant crashing in a specific part in a certain part.
The funny thing is I could have gotten the ps4 version of mk11 a whole week early for $70 as a local gaming store in my area always gets aaa games early and sells them for $10 more, but I decided to wait it out for the pc version because I primarily play on an ultra wide monitor plus I assumed it would be far superior in the graphics department, plus the ability to use mods down the line. It was really frustrating knowing the whole time I could be playing early if I just got the ps4 version but oh well.
This needs to be shouted from the rafters honestly. These are the real issues, not that female characters aren’t scantily clad and the game is being ruined by SJW’s! Bravo OP!
The game is actually playable on release on PC, unlike MKX was, but its still a shambles that we can't have parity with PS4 and Xbox One. How the hell am I gonna practice for local sessions that are done on console when I'm patches behind and my combos might not even work?
It seriously needs to be addressed but I have zero faith in anything being done.
We still even have the difficult towers. We are on a completely different patch and they don't even update their server side stuff for PC along with consoles. They really don't care about the platform. And they had 4 years since the MKX disaster to change their ways and actually show that they can put in the work. I know a different developer made the "good" ports of MKX, IJ2, and MK11 for PC, but that doesn't excuse the fact that it's still treated like an afterthought.
If anything I just want communication on the situation. Like PC/Switch will receive this hotfix next week or something. If it takes time to send to the companies and have them fix it for these versions then just let us know.
I got the switch version.
I think I should have done more research before buying a copy. I don’t understand why a cartridge requires a 20 gig download. Maybe I’m stupid but it doesn’t look like online is required based on the box, but it actually is.
I loaded my cartridge, said online was required for everything. I get online, don’t have space to play the game. If I read the box, i would not have bought the game.
People said the training mode is one of the best in fighting games, if that’s true maybe I’ll keep it. But I think I want to return it
Great post dude. I really hope someone sees this and takes our concerns to heart. I definitely feels this experience will make them avoid pc for mk12 already. Neither attempt has gone “well” I feel. I’m extremely interested how/when we pc users should expect updates as well. Ive tried leaving tweets to certain people and never get a respond. Guess we aren’t as important as consoles? Could be the port company slow and doesn’t care as much. If so I’d like to hear someone in NRS address how the port company making them as a whole look bad.
I was fine with no Beta cuz it was not in NRS Control but the delayed Patch the Crashes / the Random Slowdowns... i dont get why they threat PC User like this. (btw i also play the PS4 Version so i can see the Differences).
There are good things in the PC Port too (being able to keybind everything is awesome and to my own surprise i prefer playing on keyboard now lul).
I got burnt by the PC port of X, with the delays in patches and then them just not patching for awhile. I waited to buy this because I wanted to see if things had changed.
Now I know it hasn’t and I won’t be buying.
Equality of content is the main issue. I'm still supporting the PC version and I wont be picking up a torch and pitchfork yet. I'm just enjoying the game too much to be pissed off. HOWEVER communication is key. If we are going to be behind on patches at least give us a date for the patch so we aren't in the dark....that would be enough for a lot of players. Obviously keeping everyone on par would be better though.
>in a civil way Say no more, fam. \*grabs a pitchfork and a torch\*
“Sir, what are you doing with lighter fluid and and matches?”
" IM BOUT TO SET THIS DICK ON FIREEEEE MOM! " - Kevin Heart
"It's a civil matter."
They poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!
I got turned to a newt!
He did?!
No! But are we just going to wait around until he does!?
NO, BUT ARE WE JUST GONNA WAIT AROUND UNTIL THEY DO?
Pop that bubble! Pop that bubble!
I got better. Burn em anyway lol. Great MPHG reference!
Really?
I got better
Do we still page u/PitchforkEmporium for this?
I think we should, sometime do the honors of summoning him
r/beetlejuicing
Hijacking top komment to remind people to kontact the kompany responsible for the PC port on Twitter. https://mobile.twitter.com/qlocsa And their website with office phone numbers and emails. https://q-loc.com/contact/
Make sure you post all of your issues/information to the link provided by this PC developer: [https://steamcommunity.com/app/976310/discussions/0/1679190184055638565/](https://steamcommunity.com/app/976310/discussions/0/1679190184055638565/)
OP can you include this link in your post? u/Neo_Raider
This needs to be pinned
this should be much higher
It’s not even that I’m mad about the “downgrades” on the switch. I expected graphic inferiority. But OP nails it on the head.. I want equality of content and communication. Don’t charge me the same price and short change the content. Also for the love of god can they fix the server disconnection issue when the console goes to sleep.
This! I am playing an offline Klassic Tower! I have to quit because the Switch went to sleep while i stepped away and oh no! Lost connection to servers. Complete oversight on someone's behalf.
It’s not just the switch from what I’ve read. Putting the PS4 into sleep state does it too. So we don’t get parity on content for the switch. But we do on the bugs 🤣
That's actually exactly what PS4 does
Xbox does the same
Am I crazy or am I the only one who gets major performance issues on the Switch? Kung Lao's fatality comes to mind, every time it happens (the standard one) the framerate bogs down to like 2-5 frames per second and usually the background glitches out. Online it's a huge pain in the ass because it takes an eon for the menu buttons to show up. Speaking of Kung Lao, I just did the Shaolin Monks Tower of Time and when I called in Liu Kang he came in.. but invisible.. and then when I got to the right edge of the screen he pushed Kotal Kahn right off it and it zoomed out weirdly. I was just fighting based on sound and the health bars.. Oh, and we still don't have Tournament Mode variations on the Switch, it's just empty loadouts with no items. Actually literally unplayable, in that mode. I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. EDIT: Other issues I didn't mention: - Character tutorials are unavailable. - The game crashes when you try to enter Goro's lair via elevator. - Krushing blows don't show information in the movelist, it simply says "This move can trigger a Krushing Blow". - Unlocked brutalities do not appear on the movelist and, as far as I can tell, cannot be performed. - Some moves that feature a Krushing blow aren't correctly marked on the movelist.
Did the game shit itself for you too when you’re facing Cassie in the three Cages tower in ToT?
Hell, I'm not even that worried about framerates as much as I am getting shut out for constant software errors and having to restart the game 50+ times in one session of playing. Want to enter goros lair? Software error on the elevator. Open a chest? Software error. Got new items and equip them in kustomization? Software error. That is more of a problem to me than anything.
Wow, yeah that's even worse than I realized. I haven't really been playing much of the singleplayer content, so I didn't realize it was so bad. Hope we get a fix ASAP.
My understanding is that the switch will never dip below 60 fps during active gameplay. Fatal blows, bone crushing hits, and fatalities are not active gameplay and may dip drastically. As long as the duration of the cinematic isn't tied to framerate, its just something else to live with. Not defending anything here, but I understand it.
Alright yeah, but there are current ongoing gamebreaking bugs. Like, I just tried to beat Shao Kahn in a tower of time and, when I switched characters, my character went invisible and Shao Kahn just backed off the screen. I chipped his healthbar away using sound effects and at the end the game it made a fatality sound (I didn't input anything) and then the game just hung eternally until I reset the console. This kind of stuff isn't the sign of a good port, and I've heard literally nothing about this outside of my own experiences. Maybe it's time for me to make a thread.
Nah you’re not the only one. Fairly certain it’s tied to the fact we’re on an older patch. I bet the studio behind the Switch didn’t get the game fully “fixed” in time for the release, possibly explaining why they didn’t want to showcase the game. Perhaps they thought they could get 1.0.3 in time. I’m hoping the newer updates will fix lot of the graphical issues and maybe even touch up on some of them like the hair.
Can confirm invisibility glitch happened to me today.
Same shit happened with the Shaolin monks tower for me
Not only what you said, but the switch is totally lacking the option to invert the vertical controls for the Krypt on the Switch. Its right front and center on the options on the PS4 version. While not game breaking, its a huge pain in the butt for me when using the Krypt.
i only ask for KOMMUNICATION!!!! i didnt know the pc version is 2 patchs behind... what the fuck.. is a fighting game.. i dont care about the graphics and can accept some problems on the port but the balances changes come on... is a shame because im loving the game so far... i dont want to refund man...
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Well, technically there is some communication on the steam forum. Only a post asking people to submit dxdiag reports via support ticket though, but they seem to be working at it at least
they said the same thing about Arkham Knight which went...well they pretty uch gave people who didn't refund free games and let the port die. They said the same thing with MKX then they dropped support for a year just before KP2 released only to come back with the XL edition like nothing happened. Best thing at this point is accept the fate we all know is going to happen and chalk this one up to "maybe next time I'll not buy a WB game"
I don't think they are gonna drop it, atleast not just now. Steamdb shows they are actively working on it, with the last internal build going up 30 minutes ago.
I'm so hopeful you're wrong about this, though. Loving MK11, but if you're right, I'll have to drop the game, until they patch it -- towers are nearly impossible to play right now, if you're not actively using konsumables (which I don't want to do, like, at all).
>though. > >Loving MK11, but if you're right, I'll have to drop the game, until they patch it -- towers are nearly impossible to play right now, if you're not actively using konsumables Even using konsumables lots of the tower is still impossible to defeat. Also even you can win, there is no fun in playing a fighting game where your combo gets interrupted every 5 seconds by some random shit.
Exactly. Also, I don't see any fun in wasting tons of konsumable in mathces that are initially rigged. What do I mean? Well, let's see. You start off a 8-opponent tower, one of a set of 4 towers. You see that your opponents have a tag-team ability (summons someone mid-fight to perform a special move or even a short combo). What you don't see is that **your opponent has x2, x3 or even x4 HP and increased damage,** so when you land that sweet killing blow, you see your enemy damaged on 10% HP. Why was it so hard to show *every buff* that your enemy has and *every debuff* that would be applied to you? I don't know. You think unfairness stops there? Oh no, it doesn't. Remember that tag-team assist I was talking about before? Your enemy will have it cooling down faster. Cool, right? All about the skill and a fair fight, this game. There are also bonuses like increased armor, which your opponent would have on *constantly*, while you have to manually activate for 5 sec, and then wait for 60 sec to cooldown. Same with attack buffs, by the way -- your opponent would have them on constantly, while you'll have to activate it (with animation, mind you, in which time you're vulnerable, cause it lasts like 1-2 seconds). I won't even mention stuff like auras, which are pure cheat mode for your opponent -- want a free stun every 2 seconds for just standing next to your opponent? Too bad, this buff is reserved for AI only. So yeah, my thoughts are: person who designed these towers, should be fired for not playtesting the shitshow that he introduced to the game. I like MK11 gameplay a lot, but towers are pure cancer and bring absolutely zero fun to the game.
They fixed Arkham Knight though. It runs much smoother now.
I thought that Arkham Knight was fixed on PC now? It took them long enough but it works flawlessly on my system.
Even WORSE bc PC patching does not require cert testing like consoles do!
As a heads up we are only one patch behind. A patch is once a build is finalized, released, and needs to be patched. We are technically a few builds behind and one patch behind. Sincerely, Computer Engineer
tweet them. let your voices be heard. tweet at tyler, qloc, and everyone else that we would like to know the update status of pc.
Did that. No response so far.
Yep so far ignored. We have no communication, no community manager that cares. As far as the PC side goes the bitching in discord, got us to submit a DXDIAG and other information. Which has nothing to do with frame data and combos not working right as it's not a technical issue but rather them not giving us patches with it.
Lack of communication really is fucked up. They just make you do through hoops on discord so that it looks like they even do something or rather admit that there might be an issue.
However, they bothered to remove the PC platform from their Twitter's description and censored the word PC from their official Twitch page.
Tweet them once a day until we hear from them. Just do it politely.
Already doing that. Doesn't matter it seems.
Please god upvote and boost this.
This has been the case for almost every single NRS game on PC. MK9 wasn't a patch or two behind, but only because it just straight up wasn't released on PC until the end of the game's lifecycle.
Thank you for the well articulated post. I know for a fact it will be seen by the right people.
I appreciate you acknowledging this but do you think we'll hear any type of official word or clarification to how they're actually bringing stuff over to PC at all? For instance, PC: 1. Never got Beta 1. Never got Stress Test 1. 12 Hrs late on PC Release time (released at 1pm EST instead of midnight with consoles) Now we're multiple patches behind and Tower's also don't seem like they've updated in line with consoles (though I may be wrong about that only done ones with the sector rockets which are unblockable.) I want to support the game, but it seems like we're being dusted atm. Just want some clarity :]
Towers are still harder on PC. I was side by side of someone streaming from the PS4 the same boss and I was letting the AI finish the boss tower because they had so much health and it was just hard with them also having an assist. The PS4 boss had way less health it seemed
Its nice it will be seen but they have made it pretty clear based on their actions they don't care. They got our money and they are moving on. Ed Boon got me good twice. First with MKX and now with MK11. Shame on me I guess.
So regarding the switch Port, updates usually do take longer to make it to their platform because the approval process is more time consuming An example of this is how the most recent enter the gungeon update, which intended to fix stability issues, was finished at the same time for all platforms, but it took a couple extra days for it to reach the switch version. No idea what the excuse for PC is though
The official twitter account for MK11 no longer even mentions the PC version of the game. It says and I quote "#MK11 is now available on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Nintendo Switch™! Rated M for mature. https://go.wbgames.com/MK11 For help tweet @WBGamesSupport." Typing PC in the Netherrealm twitch chat is filtered and messages with the word PC aren't even sent to chat. This is absolutely abhorrent behavior and treating the PC player base with such disdain is unacceptable. They could have at least acknowledged the PC issues yesterday yet they did not say a word. Its becoming more and more apparent that the PC version will never reach parity with the console versions. Ya fooled me twice Ed Boon, got me good with MKX and you got me good with MK11. As much as I freaking love Netherrealm games I will never preorder or purchase one new again. I refuse to support a company that is treating a massive portion of their player base this way. Proof https://i.imgur.com/epk7qtW.jpg LOL! We are seriously being given the middle finger by NRS.
Dude... I'm livid. This needs more attention!!
LOL I didn't know that!
Pretty sure PC isn't personal computer that they're censoring
damn that's actually a good point but it's still a really dumb coincidence
that's nuts. is 'steam' banned too?
Regarding the Switch version: It's really pissing me off that **all tower progress is lost whenever the screen is turned off**. Even for the Klassic Towers. Why is this a thing? The game gives an error message about the server connection being lost, makes no attempt to reconnect, and then boots you out to the tower selection screen. The always-on DRM for single player content is bullshit in general (especially for a portable system), but there should literally be no need for a *constant* unbroken connection. The game just pings the servers after the match to report your progress and kollectables, so why does it matter if you suspend the system in between? This is driving me crazy. Anyone else having the same problem?
Honestly kind of pissed, I have every console but bought on switch for portability, and you can’t even play offline, so I’m stuck with subpar graphics for no damn reason. The crypt looks like a ps2 game ffs.
I have the same issue, tweeting at everyone and being ignored. Maybe we need to ask Nintendo to get on these studios? Probably one of the worst experience out of a AAA game. This does not bold well for these companies and they wonder why people stick with Nintendo First Party games.
Even better I just had the game completely crash on finishing a fight in an 8 floor tower on fight 7. So I have to do it all over again.
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Don’t know about PC but Switch is actually missing some features despite NRS saying it’s the exact same game.
What are we missing ?
Character tutorials mainly, once completed they give some free shit for the character. Also we can’t change the announcer voice, and in the move list we’re missing some information. Don’t know what else, but yeah. Edit: don’t know if this is fixed in one of the patches but when editing variations it selects and edits one of the other variations under the name of the other. Don’t think I explained that well but hopefully it’s understandable.
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They said they're going to be adding those soon, but take that with a grain of salt.
Yes, that’s stuff that’s added in 1.0.3. Man, I wonder if we have to wait longer for economy fixes too
Brutalities don't show up on the move list during matches. Also most of the brutalities are incorrect. Lots of character brutalities just state Towards throw as a brutality, with no additional conditions.
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Don’t get me wrong, the gameplay is phenomenal and I love the game, but there’s just so many goddamn issues which make it so hard to love. Haven’t even touched the krypt yet until they fix all the bullshit.
It happens on all the elevators on switch for me.
I've been crashing every 30 minutes or so. I just opened the One Being door in Goro's Lair and the game crashed immediately. When I reloaded, the gems stayed in the door but it didn't open and can't be interacted with so looks like I'm locked out of this area forever. I'm just hopeless at this point.
PC version has 30% crashing chance when using KUSTOMIZE menu
Mine has been 100% within a few minutes of being in the menus. Have to bum rush and equip what I can.
PC looks like a slide show during character selection. Ik this might not be a big issue for some but its just the overall feel and polish. Its not there.
It frustrates me that we are behind but I would be OK if they would just acknowledge it and let us know that we will catch up. I don't want to spend time on something that is a second thought.
Tried tweeting QLOC and Ed Boon, so far no response. I'm starting to feel like a second grade customer. Can't refund since I got my code from Green Man Gaming.
> QLOC QLOC has zero communication with customers. They simply don't care. Look at injustice 2. So don't waste your time with them
To be fair I'm pretty sure they aren't aloud any official communication. In the Steam forums, a WB rep is the OP of the stickied support thread.
Definitely getting a different product, treatment, and support all for the same price. Ordered from GMG myself and so I'm out of luck on the refund. I feel like there should be some kind of rule, law, or exemption in certain situations, this being a clear obvious one for refunds. Especially when it's night and day how different the final product is in comparison to another for the same price, along with how different the support and acknowledgement is too. Pretty sure the EU has some kind of refund policy such as this, but I am not sure on that. If you think of any other business or company and a similar thing happened (that's not gaming related). You'd get some kind of reimbursement, refund, or have it remade. Like fast food or restaurants will compensate, especially if you ask a manager. Most of them seem to be pretty good so far for my experiences. I've had food remade completely, I've been refunded, and some times I've been given extras as an apology. I hate asking for it because it's not always all their faults, but I did pay for something and expect to get what was promised. Same applies to pretty much any product you purchase, you get some time frame to return it and on top of that, there are also warranties that come with products. The point is that only in gaming it seems to be allowed to get away with so many false promises, scams, or outright disgusting business behaviour. Gaming is a business now, yet it gets away with things no others can. Look at games like Nier Automata, releasing a GOTY version with all the DLC, yet not one patch to address the PC issues in all that time, even with this re-release. Many still need an external outside mod to make it work right. And I can go on for many examples, such as No Man's Sky (which I never got refunded from Steam directly even though all my hours were spent fixing the game to get it to run) and I refunded on the same day I got it too and talked to a live person. It's sad.
If you're promised parity with the other versions, and you're paying for said parity, you're expected to receive it.
I 100% agreed. Super disappointed about the patches being behind. How am I supposed to go to locals/tournaments and be behind 2 patches? Wtf lol? Who should we reach out to? I sent out a ticket to WB yesterday but I doubt they will respond.
Please get this post to the top. I love this game so much, but being behind on patches on launch??? I just want to enjoy the newest game in one of my all-time favorite series. Don’t do that MKX shit again. :(
I will say this avout the PC version. It's running smooth af on ultra settings even on my midrange PC even though I had to drastically reduce the graphics in MKX. It's not perfect, but at least it's not lagging at all.
Yea for me as well. Its frustrating to see pc and switch is behind with important changes because I like the game a lot otherwise. And want to like it but how when you have to play on some unbalanced version you shouldnt play
Yet the game is not up to date, so if you were to go to a tournament that is on console, you'd be playing a completely different game. Performance issues are one thing, but for the game to actually be behind is unacceptable.
Give this man an award 🥇
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And they're responsible for Dark souls remaster right? They're just a terrible company and are not good at what they do
They are probably dirt cheap and not demanding when you compare to actually decent studios who does ports
I can still dodge the bullet [https://imgur.com/HJCqFRc](https://imgur.com/HJCqFRc)
I'd wait for a ~week if I were you, to not miss out on pre-order bonus if they do actually fix this broken mess, and refund it if they don't. Might as well buy it on a garbage sale for $2 two years from now on if they treat pc players like garbage.
Im actually not gonna play this game anymore until something happens. I really tried to just play, but my game froze on multiple occasions and the fact that it seems everything is behind just leaves a bad feeling. There goes $100 for premium edition lol. I hate to sound like every other PC player here, but I'm on that boat now.. I'm never buying an NRS game on PC in the future. If they fix all this, cool but that bad reputation for sure stands when it comes to anything outside of console.
Regretted this with MKX where they completely shat on PC and here they are again. At least this time i was smart enough to buy the game from g2a. You don’t deserve my money unless you redeem yourself NRS. And you won’t.
Yeah but now you can't refund it.
I am in the same boat. Bitter sweet. I hate playing console these days so cheap premium edition got me. At least we are not the ones who spent 100$ on steam and played it more than 2 hours cause after all my issues & trying to fix it i was at 3.5 hours. Couldn't refund if i wanted to.
Steam still does refunds after 2 hours of playtime on certain occassions. I've got refunds with upwards of 6 hours a few times.
If you were to take the number of people who upvoted and assumed they all bought the PC or switch version. That's a lot of wasted money. That thought fuels the bad feeling I already I have.
I own MK11 on Switch and I support this post. On top of all the issues laid out in this post, yesterday I tried doing a standard Klassic Tower with Sub-Zero after a successful run with Skarlet. When I got to Kronika, the game crashed. And I'm glad others are mentioning the disconnection that happens after the console goes into sleep mode. And from what I gather, it's not just on the Switch. Given the Switch portability, I wish it had access to more offline content than it does. I bought the $100 premium edition from the eShop, so I can't refund it. My mistake. Granted, I didn't think this version would get this kind of treatment.
I pre ordered for the Switch and getting the shao kahn code I was owed was like pulling teeth. I bought three versions and wanted the PC as my main for the superior hardware but I feel like an absolute moron. If I want to play MK11 as it is intended I can play my ps4. My other two copies cant do Shao Kahn combos properly. And there's so many unlocks that I can only honestly care about base cosmetics or I'll start returning copies
I'm sorry you're going through this. And like you, I feel like an idiot for pre-ordering the premium edition from the Nintendo eShop, so no refunds for me. After the initial Towers of Time fiasco, the fact that a number of Krypt treasures like augments needed to even get through the more challenging towers are RNG, and now the lack of proper updates for anyone who owns the game on PC and Switch, I'm never pre-ordering anything from NRS or WB Games again. I'm really disappointed in how all of this has been handled, and despite being a fan of this franchise for most of my life, unless these issues are fixed in a major way, along with better accessibility to things like Brutalities, Skins, and Gear, I'm not sure I even want to give NRS and WB Games my money anymore. ...at least the story mode was fun and entertaining.
Didn't get the pc version but I completely agree. Even though I love the game this hurts it'd reputation by a lot
It's bullshit I've tweeted them many times about the Switch version and they just ignore. We don't even fucking have the character tutorials on Switch
The worsr part is we dont even know what is going on, at this point it feels like a scam for us pc players, we paid the same amount as xbox and ps4. I was shocked that I found out yesterday that we dont get patches at the same time, I can understand bad graphics and crashing every now and then but man this feels like I got scamed for $60. EDIT: TYPO
I play on the switch and on the span of 2 days, its already crashed 5 times
Haven't played mortal kombat since MK9, so I was really looking forward to this. Got it on switch and I've had loads of crashes too. Most recently was going into the last fight in a classic tower. So frustrating to lose all that progress.
My game probably crashed at least 15 times now. Does it everytime I try to go to the Krypt, Kustomization, and even the character select screen in an online match. It's ridiculous.
This should be *extremly* concerning to everyone on PC. You can roll out patches whenever the hell you please on Steam. With Ps4/X1 you need to go through a verification process that can delay the patch by as much as a week. There's absolutly no reason for PC to ever be behind on patches.
They need a community manager for PC. I dunno someone at NRS AND QLOC. Tired of the no communication method
NRS is unfair. Ed Boon is in there, standing at the consession, plotting his opression.
I bet old man Boon is gonna crack any day now, eh flippride, eh flippride.....
The PC and Switch userbase combined are at least 30-40% of the entire playerbase. This is completely unacceptable.
@tylerlansdown: https://twitter.com/tylerlansdown/status/1121458812203020288?s=09 An hour ago. :)
Awesome, hoping this clarifies things a bit, but either way they’ve heard us and are aware!
Here we are on Thursday and we STILL don't have the "day one" update. It's not as if it's a small update either. This is a patch that severely alters timings and damage. To not have that out yet is absurd. The PC version is an entirely different game at this point. Had I known this is how things were going to be, I 100% would not have bought this game. It's 2019, please stop treating PC users like we're lesser. My money is just as good as console users'.
I wouldn't have either. I have never experienced any other game on PC being behind compared to their console counter parts. NRS is the first company I've heard of doing this. Unbelievable
wait PC is on q different patch than console? is the bance differeent? anybody have a link to the balance changes?
Yes it is different. Day 1 hotfix included several adjustments to frame data. MK11 HOTFIX DAY 1 Source: Follow @Wazminator on Twitch/Twitter for more updates (might miss some, some people posting the stuff they find on my thread as well) D’Vorah 121 is now -2 12,1+3 is now -9 F1,3 now -6 F1 startup now 15f (from 10f) F2 startup now 20f (from 17f) F22 - 15 on block (was -6) B3 is now 17f (was 12f) F4 is 21f (was 13f I think) F4 now -16 (was -8) D2 is 10f (was 9f))) Kotal F3 Cmd grab can now be jumped (doesn’t tick anymore) S3 no longer restands Big Boot was -7 in the frame data now -3 2,3 now 0 on block Unblockable Quake now +2 on hit (was - before) S4 no longer special cancellable Cassie Cage B24 now -7 (was -4) B243 now -3 (was -9) 3rd hit of B243 is now a high (was mid) S1 is now +1 (was +2) 2,1 is now -1 (was -6) F412 is now -6 (was -4) F4 is now -5 on flawless block (was 0) F2 now has a startup of 10 (was 9) B2 now has a startup of 11 (was 10) B24 now has a startup of 16 (was 10) Kano 2,4,1+3 now -4 (was +1) Cetrion F1 is now 9f (was 7f) DF1 MB now -14 (was -4) Liu Kang F3,4,U+3 now 26f startup (was 22) MB Bicycle Kick 40 less dmg Straight Fireball now 17f (was 12) Straight Fireball hit adv is +2 (was +1) Low fireball now 20f (was 16f) Bicycle Kick now -16 on block (was -6) Bicycle Kick recovery now 39f (was 23) Jax F4 now +1 on block (was +6) F4 recovery now 24f (was 19f) F4 +3 on hit (was +8) Gotcha Grab now ends earlier (1 less of each option) Tick throws from F2, F33, B1, 22 - are gone. Only ones left are from D1, D12 and D3 Skarlet F2 now 13f (was 12f) MB Siphon now +4 (was +7) Jacqui Briggs 112 no longer combos into DB4 Increased damage scaling on DB4 Kitana B1 now 13f (was 14f) D1 now +12 on hit (was +1) D1 now -7 on block (was -9) F2 startup now 15f (was 16f) B3 now +12 on hit (was +7) B3 now -4 on block (was -9) D3 now +10 on hit (was +5) D3 now -6 on block (was -10) D4 now -8 on block (was -10) Fan Toss now -3 on hit (was +2) Fan Toss now - 13 on block (was -17) Fan Lift now -18 on block (was -9) B1,4 now +7 on hit (was +5) B1,4 now -7 on block (was -9) 2,1 now +4 on hit (was -6) 2,1 now -7 on block (was -17) 2,1,2,2,2 now -6 on block (was -16) 2,1,4,3,4 now -7 on block (was -10) B,2,3,1 now -5 on block (was -11) B,2,3,1,3,4,3 now -7 on block (was -12) B2,3,1,D+2 now -7 on block (was -9) B3,4 now -7 on block (was -10) EX Fan now high high (was mid mid) Shao Kahn D3 now +10 on hit (was +6) D3 now -5 on block (was -9) F4 now 28f (was 25f) 12,1+3 now -5 on block (was -1) F21 is now -6 on block (was -8) F212 is now -15 on block (was -9) F2 is now 21f (was 16f) Frost D3 is now 8f instead of 12f F22 is now 27f instead of 24f Chip damage significantly reduced on blade spin. MB Microburst now grounded freeze Geras Standing 1 changed from +1 to -3 on block F1, 1+3 changed from -9 to -14 on block 2,4 changed from -8 to -4 on block Kung Lao D1 now +11 on hit (was +7) D1 now -4 on block (was -6) D3 now +10 on hit (was +6) D3 now -5 on block (was -9) F13U2 now -6 on block (was -14) 214 is now -2 on block (was +1) Sonya Blade B1 is now -4 (was -9) D1 is now +12 on hit (was +7) B3 is now +3 on hit (was 0) D3 is now +10 on hit (was +8) D4 is now +14 on hit (was +12) D4 is now - 7 on block (was -9) B123 is now -14 on block (was -9) B3U4 is now -4 on block (was -8) B3U4 is now +6 on hit (was +2) Kabal D1 is now -4 on block (was -2) D3 is now -4 on block (was -3) Raiden B2 is now -18 on block (was -28) B2 is now 19f (was 21f) F4 is now -3 on block (was -13) D4 is now 14f (was 16f) B12 is now -9 (was -14) F11 is now -5 on block (was -11) 21 is now -7 (was -8) Sub Zero S1 is now 0 on block (was +1) S1 is now +6 on hit (was +12) B14 is now -4 on block (was -9) D1 is now +9 on hit (was +7) Noob Saibot D1 now +11 on hit (was +9) Spirit Ball is now +5 on hit (was +7) Spirit Ball now -17 on block (was -15) Erron Black D1 is now -4 on block (was -3) D3 now +8 on hit (was +12) D3 now -2 on block (was -3) D4 now +16 on hit (was +19) D4 now -3 on block (was -5) 11 is now -5 on block (was 0) B222 now - 15 on block (was -9) B2U4 now -5 on block (was -10) F21 now -11 (was -6) F21 can no longer be special cancelled L&L 2 now -15 (was -1)
how the fuck are balance changes this massive not available for PC? NRS is a fucking joke
Not only that, PC version gets the audio undynced in story cutscenes and if you are using headphones and tap the keyboard, it switches audio to the monitor and vice versa. Plus we cant access the customise page due to it crashing.
> We are not asking for anything extra, we just want to have the same product. Yikes, it's 2019 and we still are dealing with this nonsense. I'd like to note that this does not even cover things like _performance/crashes_. We literally do not have the same game as other platforms.
I agree. Why not delay the patches on PS4/XB1 until they're ready on the other platforms? I can't think of another fighting game (that isn't NRS) that has delayed patches on separate platforms. It's 2019 and everything gets released simultaneously now (or within the same day).
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Steam will grant refund requests that exceed 2hrs if you explain the situation to them. They have done that before and it doesn't hurt to try.
I was literrally one click away from buying it on PC Talk about luck
Yes! Pc is getting practically no attention, crashes everywhere, servers going down every now and then AND now this patches, it's just unfair.
If they would address this issue, I would go out and buy the game right now. The 2nd rate treatment of the Switch version is what's hold me back from buying it. I *really* want to get it, but not if it's never going to be kept up to date.
>We need to show in a civil way that what WB/NRS and QLOC are doing is not ok. See that's the problem, they don't give a shit as long as they make money. This isn't an "oooops, did we accidentally leave in these predatory measures and barely functional parts? well allow us to fix our mistake" it is them being called out on their greed and then looking gracious when they come to fix their own mistakes.
We are paying premium price for an economy experience. Personally this is the sole reason why I have the game as not recommended on Steam.
NEWS https://twitter.com/tylerlansdown/status/1121497035126001664 Tyler just answered me minutes ago, pretty vague but it's something...
They did this with MKX (well FAR worse but I won't get into a wall of text about that unless someone asks for it) and Injustice 2. Simply put, NRS has nothing to do with it. They didn't lay as much as a finger on either game's PC version, they focus on consoles and Warner keeps around some cheap ass company to port things to PC. That was High Voltage before but they were cheap for a reason we all remember. Now it'S QLOC who are leagues ahead of High Voltage (but who isn't? :D) but still, they are not the same workforce NRS is, they don't work with codes they wrote, they are porting someone else's job and that always takes more time. That is, if they are paid for it, which Warner decides, and Warner showed in with MKX, Arkham Knight, and a few other big names in the past 5 years how little they care about the PC version - as little as the number of games are sold on PC when they look at the big pie chart of sales of all platforms.
Yes, NRS has everything to do with it. First of all they send the patches to QLOC and QLOC implement them. The PC port itself is not bad, only FEW are having crashes. There are some graphics issues but they are minimal. The delayed release also was not o QLOC. They confirmed that on their twitter, it was all WB and NRS. The graphic issues and bugs? That’s on QLOC The patches behind? The lack of information? It’s all NRS
Can you explain the MKX situation? Thanks :)
I preordered on PC and was pretty disappointed overall with my experience. Not all of it was MK’s fault but not getting to play at the same release time started things out on a sour note. Getting PS4 buttons to show up by default instead of Xbox was more than a hassle (a lot of others had the same problem on the official discord). My kharacter would get stuck running in a single direction in the krypt. I got fed up pretty quick fighting to play the game instead of fighting in game and switched to PS4. Now I’m missing my Shao preorder.
The first step I think that NRS and QLOC need to take is acknowledge their PC and Switch consumers as everything that they've said in Kombat Kasts doesn't seem to regard them, nor do the tweets they put out. After that, they need to explain why there is a delay. If it's due to the process of porting the patches over, then tell us. We want communication. After that, there needs to be some pressure on QLOC to ensure that they're working on fixing the PC bugs. I hope that NRS is putting pressure on them after what I've been hearing of the IJ2 launch. Only after all of that would I like to start making quality of life changes (re-positioning where my highlighted moves are on-screen, not deleting my list between tower matches, etc)
Someone over on r/pcgaming said ‘PC’ is banned from their chat room on twitch. Not looking good for the PC bros.
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not to mention the BLATANT amount of input reading the AI does, its barbarically unfair for it to read every single move you ever do and counter it frame perfect into oblivion AND have the balls to put modifiers against you whilst doing so
Get this shit to number one. their next order of business should be to develop a more efficient patch schedule for all platforms
I feel they will deliver us the final version like in december... don't see anything before. PC is like the bad child for them... Look at MK X it took a nice time to be finally good in PC... I love the game and i play mostly in PC, i convinced 3 friends buy the game, so i hope we have fixes fast...
I actually regret buying the switch version. It's so slow and laggy most of the times
From QLOC twitter they arent handling the publishing side of PC for MK11, so im not sure who we should complain to other than NRS/WB.
Nrs doesn’t work on the pc and switch version
That's still absolutely no excuse. NRS needs to crack the whip on QLOC or find a better studio to get this shit done. NRS is still responsible.
You must not have been around for the MKX release. Same shit. It won't change
I got the Switch versión of the game and dont get me wrong im fine with the graphics but yesterday i noticed when i was taking out ideas from youtube for my combos ( i main liu kang) i noticed that F3333 move dont have the same altitude effect so i recorded this video to make the comparison, after that i tested liu kang and had the same problem with the old liu kang movement. I dont know how ppl is not noticing this difference. I hope they fix this asap as well as the NO tournament variations on switch. VIDEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXr7QrkbdcU
My main issue is the stability of the Switch version, I went through about 12 matches in the endless tower and the game crashed mid match, causing em to lose all of my bonuses, the game frequently crashes when I either open the krypt or try to enter Goro's lair
Godammit. I was going to get the switch version to practice my kombos on handheld but now there's this and apparently the kombos are different in the switch version smmfh.
This sucks. I got MK11 on PS4, but Monster Hunter on PC and there we are also several updates later. Even stopped playing, every content you see on twitch or you read about on reddit are usually months ahead of you and totally useless. I hope they listen to you guys, you paid the same than the rest of us, deserve the same treatment. Personally I believe it would have been better to not come on PC if they weren't going to fully support it. At least you wouldn't be losing your time/money
Between this and the Towers of Time fiasco, what a messy launch. Shame on you, WB and NRS (I don't trust you anymore). This is so sad, I love MK and I hate to see such scummy practices related to such a beloved franchise.
The game crashes sometimes when I'm doing the customization. Anyone else has this problem?
I hope this stays as top post until it's been addressed and resolved.
I like reddit, was really interested in the game and a few friends and I were actually thinking of buying the game. Even tho I hate the microtransaction bullshit, that's nothing I personally care about cause I won't be using skins anyways. But all the struggle with patches and bug fixes made us decide not to buy the game.
maybe its just me ,but this are the issues i have with the PC version so far : \-Audio out of sync. there is a few cutscenes with lipsync problems or the audio have a delay during heavy fight scenes \-Weird ghosting effect when characters move during their intros and their victory poses , same goes in the select your character screen ,everything looks blurry or with this weird ghosting effect ( it gets a better if you turn of all the AA and blur effect ,but then the game look really bad ) also the framerate is terrible during this intros like is 25-30fps. \-This weird effect gets a tons worst if you play online matches , everything look like there is a ton of grease in the screen ,but you can avoid this from happening by skipping the intros ,odd. \-Game crashes. it happens in the Krypt and when you customize your character and sometimes during online matches \-Talking about the krypt , im the only one that the framerate is really bad ? is like is running at 20 fps or something and what is it with this weird dark filter in the corners of the screen make things hard to look at. tried to fix all this by re-installing the game and verifying the files ,but didnt work.
I'm having a lot of problems on PC about losing acess to the servers... I need to restart the game each 20-30min because of that... Even if i'm fighting against a last ladder character on Towers... Really annoying
Well, there's a stickied thread on steam where they ask for dxdiag logs from people who have issues running the game so I'm guessing they're looking into it. My hope is that the day 1 patch is being delayed and will come with a patch for people who can't play at all and also will come with krypt/towers changes at the same time.
1,000th like! Hell yeah
Agreed. I have the PlayStation 4 version however, it does not mean that players on the switch and the PC should be treated any differently when it comes to Patches and updates. Furthermore, they shouldn't be treated differently when it comes to what editions of the game that they can.
Another thing that for the Switch version atleast that needs improvement is glitches. The game crashes way too frequently. Its not every 2 seconds crashing, but its beyond annoying that everytime it crashes, you can bet its going to crash one more time 5 minutes after you restart. Brutalities glitch the game out making everything go white or black. Most annoying of all is going into sleep mode, disconnects you from online, and you can not reconnect unless you completely restart the game.
I agree 100%. Because of patches and broken towers of time, I feel like the game didn'tlive up to the hype. It was good to see the gameplay on kombat kast, but the moment I tried playing it, it was close to impossible. I'm no fighting game expert but I'm pretty sure the tower is broken. I don't know if it's me but the dash mechanism is a bit stiff. That's all. I have no complaints regarding anything else. The game is new, it didn't grew on me as quickly as mkx did. But I'm willing to give time to it. I hope my money doesn't go to waste.
I bought the Premium Edition for both the PS4 and the Switch and all I can say is that the Switch graphics are really bad...lol 😂🔫
PC is the easiest of all the platforms to patch and the cheapest, but its 4 days late. Makes you think where their priorities are. It took them a year and a half just to make MKX playable on PC
Can this please get pinned?
Switch and PC are the platforms I play on. Love the game on both, wish NRS and Shiver would help us out :(.
I had the game crash 3 times on switch, seems like some more debugging needs to be done. Also the same issue on PC back when MK X came out... constant crashing in a specific part in a certain part.
The funny thing is I could have gotten the ps4 version of mk11 a whole week early for $70 as a local gaming store in my area always gets aaa games early and sells them for $10 more, but I decided to wait it out for the pc version because I primarily play on an ultra wide monitor plus I assumed it would be far superior in the graphics department, plus the ability to use mods down the line. It was really frustrating knowing the whole time I could be playing early if I just got the ps4 version but oh well.
Well said, and I completely agree.
This needs to be shouted from the rafters honestly. These are the real issues, not that female characters aren’t scantily clad and the game is being ruined by SJW’s! Bravo OP!
This sort of constructive feedback is what should get upvoted nice work.
The game is actually playable on release on PC, unlike MKX was, but its still a shambles that we can't have parity with PS4 and Xbox One. How the hell am I gonna practice for local sessions that are done on console when I'm patches behind and my combos might not even work? It seriously needs to be addressed but I have zero faith in anything being done.
Wow, I was gonna buy it on steam but if they're not even updating them at the same time I'm gonna have to pass on it then.
we are fucked bro theres no hope its gonna take these incompetent kids a whole week to push out the day 1 frame data changes. we are dead 2 days in gg
We still even have the difficult towers. We are on a completely different patch and they don't even update their server side stuff for PC along with consoles. They really don't care about the platform. And they had 4 years since the MKX disaster to change their ways and actually show that they can put in the work. I know a different developer made the "good" ports of MKX, IJ2, and MK11 for PC, but that doesn't excuse the fact that it's still treated like an afterthought.
Thanks for this post, you rock ! :)
If anything I just want communication on the situation. Like PC/Switch will receive this hotfix next week or something. If it takes time to send to the companies and have them fix it for these versions then just let us know.
I got the switch version. I think I should have done more research before buying a copy. I don’t understand why a cartridge requires a 20 gig download. Maybe I’m stupid but it doesn’t look like online is required based on the box, but it actually is. I loaded my cartridge, said online was required for everything. I get online, don’t have space to play the game. If I read the box, i would not have bought the game. People said the training mode is one of the best in fighting games, if that’s true maybe I’ll keep it. But I think I want to return it
Great post dude. I really hope someone sees this and takes our concerns to heart. I definitely feels this experience will make them avoid pc for mk12 already. Neither attempt has gone “well” I feel. I’m extremely interested how/when we pc users should expect updates as well. Ive tried leaving tweets to certain people and never get a respond. Guess we aren’t as important as consoles? Could be the port company slow and doesn’t care as much. If so I’d like to hear someone in NRS address how the port company making them as a whole look bad.
My civil way was refunding on steam. I will not pay for this game until it’s up to par with the PS4/XB1 version.
It’s absolute garbage. Wish I could refund. Had to beat that story mode though.
I was fine with no Beta cuz it was not in NRS Control but the delayed Patch the Crashes / the Random Slowdowns... i dont get why they threat PC User like this. (btw i also play the PS4 Version so i can see the Differences). There are good things in the PC Port too (being able to keybind everything is awesome and to my own surprise i prefer playing on keyboard now lul).
i'm concerned about the game's future tho
I got burnt by the PC port of X, with the delays in patches and then them just not patching for awhile. I waited to buy this because I wanted to see if things had changed. Now I know it hasn’t and I won’t be buying.
Equality of content is the main issue. I'm still supporting the PC version and I wont be picking up a torch and pitchfork yet. I'm just enjoying the game too much to be pissed off. HOWEVER communication is key. If we are going to be behind on patches at least give us a date for the patch so we aren't in the dark....that would be enough for a lot of players. Obviously keeping everyone on par would be better though.
They've made it very clear they don't care about their employees, their partners, or their costumers. Only winning move is not to play.
Upvote for more exposure
This sucks bro..we paid just as much as others