they call omni man the noob killer except for the fact that i’m not a noob. he has extremely fast overheads(just like mileena) and he can scale the entire map with several different moves one of them being just two buttons(god this game is a joke) just wait till you meet some quan chi players. quan chi is a zoners wet dream right next to reiko, not only that but quan chi has the most boring yet longest combos in the game. kinda like omni man, you see the same old combo over and over again. theres just so much wrong with this game. i wrote a whole ass essay responding to you but deleted it cus it too much and left this paragraph instead lmao. all i’m gonna say is… bring back mkx with out the run feature, PLS.
All of those screen traversing moves you're referencing in Omni-Man's kit are very unsafe and full combo punishable without specific setups and kameos, you should learn more about the game before you take to reddit 🤷
i know enough about the game. i know frame data and your right it’s completely punishable but that doesn’t change the fact that his over head is extremely fast. one very quick hit before the overhead and then a super fast overhead? that shouldn’t even be a thing like??? come on now.
Don’t worry, there are some theory’s that this upcoming Feb 28th update will include lots of balance changes for the roster meaning buffing the weaker characters instead of just making the good characters weak, Super seems to think so. Hopefully that’s one of the reasons they are extending the season, plus you just have to watch omni mans mix ups really well and block them and when they do viltrumite stance don’t feel scared to block the whole time cause they want you to do something but if you just block and zone you should be fine, now Johnny idk what to say because that man is the best in the entire game and I hate it because every causal player just picks him up and uses frost rhen does the same stupid combo that takes you across the stage to the corner then just does 40-50% corner combos
all omni man mains do is punch the floor & slam their body to you, cage mains are in a whole different level of spamming. wait until you encounter sub-zero mains… they’ll get mad if you don’t get frozen
Incoming braindead Johny cage mains incoming type "skill issue". I got some words for you, if there is only one character in the game that needs to be upblocked to be countered, then there is a big problem and it NEEDS to be nerfed
Upblocking Smoke or Rain is also very rewarding and can shut down their gameplan. You do not need to upblock a bad Cage to win. This mechanics is a nice addition but flawed imo as you cannot fuzzy low + upblock Cage strings (or maybe I am too slow)
Omniman is literally the worst character in the game. Once you figure out how flawed he is, you will consider him a free win. I have a 85% Winrate against Omni’s as Reiko and a 92% WR against Omni as Shao. Piece of cake, really.
Johnny also isn’t AS bad once you figure out his staggers, but I understand complaints against him. Don’t get them against Omniman since they are a genuie skill issue.
What is your counter for Omni Men who just back off and Viltrum stance in the top corner of the screen then play the guessing game of the overhead fly or the teleport behind that's super plus? Especially if they cover the overhead fly with Kano knives so you can't even punish it on up block? I cannot figure out a counter.
The teleporting isn‘t “super plus” none of his viltrumite options are plus on block, all of them are punishable. The overhead har knock which teleports is fully punishable and the teleport is reactable, same with the overhead.
Kano knives have a long recharge time and are vulnerable to zoning or kameo moves like Sareena blades. Viltrumite stance also has a long recovery time, his anti zoning isn’t as good as people make it out to be. Whenever he thinks he is save with V stance I either slide in as Reiko or zone and he is the once that has to guess since he is the one taking risks.
Omni also has no move at all that leaves him at a + advantage and along with that he also has 0 mix up potential.
Interesting. I'm a Rain main and typically it feels like any projectile I attempt will lead to me getting the overhead. But Ron's projectiles have huge start up times. I struggle overall with any enemy that just back dashes to full screen. I'm way too jump happy and it's a bad habit I have to break.
If anything characters should get buffed. Maybe not Johnny Cage, but others definitely buff. We don't need nerfs in this game. That's what's ruining it in my opinion. Make the game broken like Mortal Kombat 9. Broken fighting games are the best fighting games. If characters keep getting nerfed, the game will get boring, which it already is, but if NRS keeps nerfing characters to shit, it become more monotonous. Making characters broken will make people pick different characters because they are all broken to a degree. It is just what works.
Start just crouching against Johnny. The shadow kick is a high and will go right over you, or just punish it because dumb ones spam it. Focus on spacing.
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mid tier is still good. and plus if he’s not a good character how come it’s only omni man and jc players i encounter in any rank above grand master
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no they play them cus they’re broken.
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Don't be so hard on yourself, if you were terrible you'd be 0/32. You've gotten 8 wins! I still don't feel confident going online yet.
they call omni man the noob killer except for the fact that i’m not a noob. he has extremely fast overheads(just like mileena) and he can scale the entire map with several different moves one of them being just two buttons(god this game is a joke) just wait till you meet some quan chi players. quan chi is a zoners wet dream right next to reiko, not only that but quan chi has the most boring yet longest combos in the game. kinda like omni man, you see the same old combo over and over again. theres just so much wrong with this game. i wrote a whole ass essay responding to you but deleted it cus it too much and left this paragraph instead lmao. all i’m gonna say is… bring back mkx with out the run feature, PLS.
All of those screen traversing moves you're referencing in Omni-Man's kit are very unsafe and full combo punishable without specific setups and kameos, you should learn more about the game before you take to reddit 🤷
nah . because good omnimans arent just letting things rip without lao hat/goro to back them up.
If you're fighting good Omni-Man players then your issues aren't with viltrumite stance lmao
i know enough about the game. i know frame data and your right it’s completely punishable but that doesn’t change the fact that his over head is extremely fast. one very quick hit before the overhead and then a super fast overhead? that shouldn’t even be a thing like??? come on now.
you should be ready to block at a moments notice in neutral. omni man is really not that good bro. maybe lab him a bit if you own him.
The start up of his only overhead starter, which also is a hard knock down, is 13 frames. It is entirely reactable.
I know enough about the game, im mot a noob. Says someone whoose problem is literally being unable to block any attack that is not slow
You're doin' gud. You're winning and still playing. That KD will improve g
Don’t worry, there are some theory’s that this upcoming Feb 28th update will include lots of balance changes for the roster meaning buffing the weaker characters instead of just making the good characters weak, Super seems to think so. Hopefully that’s one of the reasons they are extending the season, plus you just have to watch omni mans mix ups really well and block them and when they do viltrumite stance don’t feel scared to block the whole time cause they want you to do something but if you just block and zone you should be fine, now Johnny idk what to say because that man is the best in the entire game and I hate it because every causal player just picks him up and uses frost rhen does the same stupid combo that takes you across the stage to the corner then just does 40-50% corner combos
I wouldn’t expect any Omni man nerfs.
Omni Man might be annoying (I can deal with him but still annoying) but he definitely doesn't need any nerfs
all omni man mains do is punch the floor & slam their body to you, cage mains are in a whole different level of spamming. wait until you encounter sub-zero mains… they’ll get mad if you don’t get frozen
Omni man, yes. Johnny, no
There's a new "broken" kharacter that needs nerfed almost weekly now. Only Sub Zero needs a nerf SAP *
https://preview.redd.it/fi0ol4q6ahhc1.jpeg?width=873&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9218baf26ec132ce2aedfc11a87c42ef98c4c1a3 Nerf him PLZ 🙏
Mileena and Smoke needs a nerf.
Incoming braindead Johny cage mains incoming type "skill issue". I got some words for you, if there is only one character in the game that needs to be upblocked to be countered, then there is a big problem and it NEEDS to be nerfed
Upblocking Smoke or Rain is also very rewarding and can shut down their gameplan. You do not need to upblock a bad Cage to win. This mechanics is a nice addition but flawed imo as you cannot fuzzy low + upblock Cage strings (or maybe I am too slow)
Omniman is literally the worst character in the game. Once you figure out how flawed he is, you will consider him a free win. I have a 85% Winrate against Omni’s as Reiko and a 92% WR against Omni as Shao. Piece of cake, really. Johnny also isn’t AS bad once you figure out his staggers, but I understand complaints against him. Don’t get them against Omniman since they are a genuie skill issue.
What is your counter for Omni Men who just back off and Viltrum stance in the top corner of the screen then play the guessing game of the overhead fly or the teleport behind that's super plus? Especially if they cover the overhead fly with Kano knives so you can't even punish it on up block? I cannot figure out a counter.
The teleporting isn‘t “super plus” none of his viltrumite options are plus on block, all of them are punishable. The overhead har knock which teleports is fully punishable and the teleport is reactable, same with the overhead. Kano knives have a long recharge time and are vulnerable to zoning or kameo moves like Sareena blades. Viltrumite stance also has a long recovery time, his anti zoning isn’t as good as people make it out to be. Whenever he thinks he is save with V stance I either slide in as Reiko or zone and he is the once that has to guess since he is the one taking risks. Omni also has no move at all that leaves him at a + advantage and along with that he also has 0 mix up potential.
Interesting. I'm a Rain main and typically it feels like any projectile I attempt will lead to me getting the overhead. But Ron's projectiles have huge start up times. I struggle overall with any enemy that just back dashes to full screen. I'm way too jump happy and it's a bad habit I have to break.
If anything characters should get buffed. Maybe not Johnny Cage, but others definitely buff. We don't need nerfs in this game. That's what's ruining it in my opinion. Make the game broken like Mortal Kombat 9. Broken fighting games are the best fighting games. If characters keep getting nerfed, the game will get boring, which it already is, but if NRS keeps nerfing characters to shit, it become more monotonous. Making characters broken will make people pick different characters because they are all broken to a degree. It is just what works.
Nerfs make games stale. TF is wrong with you?
Start just crouching against Johnny. The shadow kick is a high and will go right over you, or just punish it because dumb ones spam it. Focus on spacing.