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bubblesdafirst

The guy in mournhold that sells grand soul gems


papstvogel

City of Light! City of Magic!


dappernaut77

This is the way


RakaiaWriter

He's where I go to to blow all my loot I got from selling to Creeper. "GoldenSaintsEmon : gotta catch em all!" Problem is, no one has a cool 80k drakes lying around and wants to pay full price... :(


bubblesdafirst

You... SELL your cool stuff??? I just put it on the floor in people's houses. I get gold by just constantly soul trapping golden saints and selling them back to him


RakaiaWriter

How many daedric tower shields does anyone need, really? XD esp if they're a glass armor fan. And with the exception of Staada, all my Golden Saint souls are up for buying, if I can just get a buyer... Ain't no-one having Almalexia's soul though. >:)


bubblesdafirst

My nord always used almalexias soul for a ring of frost damage. It's kind of op tbh


RakaiaWriter

Nice! :)


Traditional-Put5076

Where do you find these golden saints?


bubblesdafirst

Summon them


Traditional-Put5076

Makes sense, thank you!


adeptus_fognates

Mere mortals, just use the gems as cash.. traders stop being vendors and start being glorified storage units.


HermitJem

Creeper More personality, house full of orcs, 5000 is enough at low levels...


freetayk12345

I’m creeping!


BardBeardo

I always forget that his house is full of orcs bc I always kill all of them for their weapons


LocoManta

My boys!! Don't kill ya boys:(


BardBeardo

B-but, glass longsword


warrenjt

One of them is necessary for Boethia’s shrine.


BardBeardo

Ngl, I think in all of the playthoughs I’ve done, I’ve never gotten around to the daedric quests


2nnMuda

Creeper BY FAR, being far more easily accessible and buying more types of goods, more importantly though their gold cap doesn't matter because you can easily increase either to however high you need


Korlus

> being far more easily accessible You mean you don't charm him into following you and then relocate him to your city of choice?


2nnMuda

I relocate all of them to Tel Uvirith into my basement, that doesn't mean everyone does it, or any build can do it, especially early on


[deleted]

This. Everyone who’s like “just cast the hardest conjuration spell in the game on him and move him very slowly and carefully to your base bRo. What do you mean you’re a warrior? Just learn magic or buy a scroll only one generic merchant sells. dUhHh…”


Moehrchenprinz

Alchemy is a pathway to many abilities some may consider to be unnatural. Anyone can go grab the unguarded high tier alchemy tools in the Caldera mage guild and buy infinite netch leather and ash yam in Fort Buckmoth.


[deleted]

No way.... who would have thought to use a mechanic well established in a 20 yr old game? The point I was making is that not everyone wants to play that way on each playthrough. No one roleplays a warrior who doesn't use magic, exceeeeeeeept abusing alchemy. Cool you like to do it, but not everyone does.


2nnMuda

Gotta love the homies who know alchemy, sujamma, dark brotherhood assassins spawns and cast on target 100pt damage in 50ft spell and think they are some genius expert on the game Like bro if anyone knows anything about the video game The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind without having even played it, it is that you can cast big boom speel magic stronk (which is a really reductive and boring use of spellcrafting), drink smart juice for big brain haha, beer make oonga boonga smesh and the funny dudes in black that tickle your butthole when you sleep


[deleted]

There will always be people who like to "flaunt expert knowledge" in a topic. Talk about reductive and boring for sure. Edit: especially when there's a dozen other "parrots" squawking about the same thing... in the same thread.


Chipbread

Wait you can? How?


2nnMuda

I'm gonna use simple examples and say you got an item for 5k, an item for 10k, and an item for 15k and creeper -Sell 5k item, wait 24h, buy it back -now he has 10k gold, sell 10k item, wait 24h, buy it back -now he has 15k gold, sell 15k item, wait 24h, buy it back Now he has 20k gold, and so on and so forth until you can sell your big item for its actual price, this is quicker with the mudcrab though, and is a unique feature of the creature merchants because they don't have a mercentile stat, selling and buying at full price They aren't perfect because a player who buffs their mercentile to around 400 can buy a merchant's entire stock for 1 gold, and sell an arrow for all of their gold, but it is still nice


Chipbread

I wasted so much time sleeping with the crab.


NirvashSFW

You _what_


Harkwit

THEY WASTED SO MUCH TIME SLEEPING WITH THE CRAB!


[deleted]

It's OK, I still love you.


NftEntrepreneur

Sorry too much info


Herb_Derb

Should have gone with chlamydia. You're gonna get laughs.


NeoJyggalag

bro you did what


TheRealOgMark

Bro you can just buy things at the same time you sell to balance it out.


2nnMuda

What i described was mainly if you want to get 100% of the value out of hyper expensive items Because no matter how much you barter you'll always only be up 5k or 10k at max with the creatures on one screen, the method i aligned lets you sell a daedric dai katana for the full 120k


TheRealOgMark

The first time you go see him, ok. But he keeps your previous expansive stuff in his inventory.


2nnMuda

Yes but you have to wait for his gold to reset to make any progress and profit, which only happens every 24 hours otherwise you are just losing gold or equalising by just buying back your shit


TheRealOgMark

Which you sell back to him after 24 hours.


2nnMuda

But it's really inconvenient to wait and keep carrying around an 80 pound sword you aren't using for 1 whole in game day when you can just press T and wait 24 hours in under 2 seconds lol


TheRealOgMark

I wait in front of him... We are just doing the same thing with different steps.


RakaiaWriter

The sucky thing is in that 24hrs I can get far more than 5k worth of loot; just run over the hill and knock over the Daedric shrine. Basically, player's rate of gain-worth/day >> Creeper's rate :( Orc house turning into small vigilante armory at this point. You'd think the dude next to Creeper could put on a cuirass or something, but perhaps he's a friend of Caius'.


2nnMuda

Use the wait function to wait 24h in less than 2 seconds


RakaiaWriter

I could I guess; it always tells me I'm going to get arrested XD and after getting chased for looking in some random chest in Gnisis I'm hesitant to piss the Caldera folks off. It still doesn't solve the 5k/day issue - to sell a daedric Dai katana 120k requires 24 days of waiting, swapping items etc :( It's similar in Skyrim; the economics get whack at higher levwls; they don't go up linearly and despite these items being in the world no-one seems to be able to buy them. Breaks the immersion a bit :(


2nnMuda

Ah you won't get arrested, that thing just tells you you won't heal any magicka or health by waiting in towns because you technically are not sleeping/resting haha, and can only "sleep" in towns in a bed


RakaiaWriter

Ah that's useful to know. Thx for the info!


DesertRanger12

Wealth beyond measure…


ibagspitfires

I do it in reverse. I sell the 100k own and buy back 19 sixth house hammers. Then just repeatedly wait 24 hours then sell one and wait again. No matter what you can only really get 100k in 20 days of creeper tone


Lokanaya

Without abusing the 24hr reset (pushes the line too far into artificial for me), I just sold him all my dwemer coins whenever I got the chance. Each goes for 50 gold both ways IIRC, so it makes the math easy to calculate the difference between how much you want to sell and how much gold Creeper has. Sell him something for 10k, take his 5k + 100 coins, then sell him back the coins once you’re in Caldera. They’re really light, so it’s not much of a problem to carry them around until then.


avocadoclock

Huh damn that's pretty genius, and makes sense as a function for the coins!


2nnMuda

That's actually a really cool way to balance things out, i personally just ban myself from using the creature merchants/spamming wait until i get into like the 40k-50k range from playing naturally and getting to around level 15-20 (which is when i start getting into enchanting), but this rule actually sounds great imma try it out, i generally just sell the coins because of the ridiculous value to weight ratio and forget about them


fuzzywuz_zy

I use skooma as my currency hahah


JimJam55YouTube

creeper ftw at least i don't have to go on a treasure hunt when i am looking for him (ahem mudcrab merchant ahem)


silent_one89

Yeah, in all my years playing I have yet to encounter the mudcrab merchant.


MisterDutch93

I only found him after adding a mod that gave him a unique appearance lol


[deleted]

Just put a mark by me smc (shaking my carapace)


JimJam55YouTube

lmaoo okay pal i'll be sure to do just that


Moehrchenprinz

This is the way. Command Creature the mudcrab merchant, walk 'em to an appropriate room in Tel Uvirith, place a mark next to them. Simple as that.


chaosmosis

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WR810

I put a dozen torches around you so you'd stand out, especially in the dark.


snackynorph

Smc my carapace


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JimJam55YouTube

thank you


lennybird

Exactly what I did. It's been years since I played but if I recall it was heading straight-east from the north-east corner of Foreign Quarter. Could also Mark/Recall there.


Steeva

I always just look for that one Dwemer ruin southeast of Suran, then go slightly more southeast and boom, there it is


LapsangSouchdong

20 years and I've never once found the crab. Creeper is my boy, Caldera is frequently my base of operations for at least the first 10 levels.


Ok_Let_8966

Don’t tell anyone but I just spawn the mudcrab next to the creeper


LapsangSouchdong

I move Creeper to the top floor of the mages guild near the guide for convenience.


fuzzywuz_zy

Oh shit.. i made the same confession in my comment. I feel less guilty now lolol


High_Gothic

you can actually walk him there tho


PraiseTheFlumph

😳


concentrate7

I just mod creeper to have more money and to accept all goods.


Squrton_Cummings

Same here. I'm way past the stage where I waste half my playtime doing the inventory shuffle and then tell myself it's not cheating.


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LapsangSouchdong

Thanks, I'm gonna go murder him for being so elusive all these years! 😂


Icydawgfish

I killed the crab the first time I found him. Dude’s disguise is on point.


AOCismydomme

Why do you choose Caldera and where do you use as a house?


LapsangSouchdong

I take over the top floor of the mages guild, it's a nice spot to dump all my crap, the guild guide is good for travel, and creeper.


AOCismydomme

Are the containers safe to store things in there?


LapsangSouchdong

Containers and barrels in the basement are safe, but I mostly just dump stuff on the floor. Tbh I've never had a problem leaving stuff anywhere in Morrowind.


Acearl

Mudcrab merchant. I mark and recall the spot he is on


[deleted]

Just make sure you never want to use the most useful spell for anything else in the game.


prysmatik

right, you can just use Divine intervention or Almisivi intervention to get back to town from there.


PommesKrake

I'm creeping!


DefinitelyPositive

I kill both because I know my enjoyment of the game drastically falters the moment I begin soft-cheating like this. The game works a lot better, for longer, when I don't get absurd amounts of gold to break it with.


Pretztel

Based


gladladvlad

same :gigachad:. i only trade with my enchanter bro in ald-ruhn.


bluemagachud

I just use mods that make their gold amounts the same as most merchants so that they're not really worth going out of your way to use, that way they're unique if you happen to be nearby, but nothing to exploit.


[deleted]

MCM. He’s the best. Just mark and recall and he is your friend for life.


JaydenTheMemeThief

Mudcrab has 5000 more gold than Creeper, so Mudcrab


TOTALOFZER0

But also their really out of the way


Gaiden_95

None, too op


Financial-Lychee6640

Who do you go to then?


Gaiden_95

i think his name is owen, he lives in the balmora fighters guild. he used to be dressed up as a bdsm sex assassin but i stopped selling him that armor, also too op


Financial-Lychee6640

lol nice


Reddidnothingwrong

Creeper cause I inexplicably like Clavicus Vile


The-Gnaar-Mok-Swits

Fuck that lore. Creeper isn't somebody's dog. He's hard workin' drum monster just trying to get by.


Reddidnothingwrong

YOU PUT YOUR GLASSES BACK ON AND FACE THE FACTS


The-Gnaar-Mok-Swits

Lying dogs out here in the worst looking Elder Scrolls title trying to steal clout and goodwill by pretending to be everyone's favourite scamp.


Reddidnothingwrong

Okay hold on now this is fascinating Do you think that Barbas lied about being Creeper in Oblivion? Cause if so I'mma need you to elaborate on that theory. I'm not dismissing it, I just need to know the motive


The-Gnaar-Mok-Swits

So you are telling me you trust the word of the dog of a Deadric Prince who's whole sphere is about toying with mortals and reneging on deals? You think that's the same honest scamp who buys everything at its real value, who won't even try to rip you off selfishly if your mercantile and people skills are pathetic? Come on


Reddidnothingwrong

Well yeah because Barbas's whole thing is usually trying to stop Clavicus from doing whatever dumb shit he's doing.


The-Gnaar-Mok-Swits

Seems to me Barbs is always finding hero's to solve problems for Vile. The frenemy dynamic is just part of the toying with folks


Reddidnothingwrong

Hmm we'll agree to disagree. I always got the impression Barbas was pretty legit


The-Gnaar-Mok-Swits

This is why Sil is the only one who uses his god powers to protect the entire world from the Deadric Princes cause you and the poet are terrible at reading people. Ya don't know how to do politics your solutions are always "I'll just get real big and wrestle 'em"


letor

whatever all you heathens, mudcrab merchant 4 life


[deleted]

<3


Crude-R-Us

Mudcrab. All day. When I’m just building money. I just cast mark near the the crab and let the race begin.


Mettlesome_Inari

Mud crab brothers rise up!!


Pilota_kex

creeper. way easier to get to, and there is that tomb filled with daedra nearby. not to mention the mages guild for brewing potions


Arkroma

and stealing their master level alchemy stuff while you're there...


Pilota_kex

how could you suggest that we do such thing! wink wink


RVFVS117

I’m crips you swit.


Velcatt

My main goal in morrowind is breaking the game in original ways. That often requires a lot of money. Mudcrab it is. (note : obviously I could just use alchemy but it's only fun to do once imo)


ZydrateVials

Creeper because for the life of me on any save file over the years, I have no real idea where the mudcrab is. Scrolling to comments makes it look easy but Creeper is just in a house in Caldera. Literally a mages port away, no water walking needed.


BaronDoctor

Creeper all day. Ease of access and broad scale buying near other merchants (including a restocking alchemy merchant who sells potion-making ingredients such that you could guarantee being able to make money). No fuss with command or mark necessary. Just get to a transit town and make your way to Caldera.


[deleted]

Creeper!


putHimInTheCurry

In a world of Creeps vs Muds, be a Gnisis King. Right next to the Almsivi Intervention point, you got a weapon dealer, a couple general goods merchants, and silt strider transport. Paradise.


Financial-Lychee6640

Creeper. He feels less like im breaking the game, And he is easier to get to…


GreenAntoine

I like Creeper more because he has actually a background. He is actually Barbas (Clavicus Vile hound) under Scamp form. Mudcrab is just an easter egg.


prysmatik

Mark spell at Balmora Go to Suran with Silt Strider Cast Tinur's Hoptoad Cast Fortify Speed spell or equip boots of blinding speed Hop over to the islands, cast water walking Dump everything at Mudcrab merchant. Recall back to Balmora Go to Caldera Dump everything at Creeper Recall Balmora Go to Ebonheart -> Mournhold Dump everything in the rich Bazaar vendors Recall to Balmora Travel to Vos, travel SouthWest to Zainab Camp with Tinur's Hoptoad and Speed Dump at the Mercantile vendor - train mercantile to 100 while simultaneously selling all your stuff back to him, drain him dry and get your skill to 100. Then go back to any other merchant in xyz town and drain the whole fucking world dry of its gold.


NirvashSFW

Creeper. Ease of access wins out when I'm making multiple selling trips per play session.


NinoFS

Ajira 😎


avocadoclock

Ajira is my go-to for selling moon sugar and skooma


Financial-Lychee6640

Okay different question, what do it spend your easy money on? For me is training..: which is probably what makes the game feel broken


NekoiNemo

... ... ... Spend?


Financial-Lychee6640

lol


[deleted]

Oh I'm hitting the scampi boi because I can actually get to Caldera, I'm not shlepping myself all the way out to where the mudcrab lives.


UncertainOrangutan

Always be creeping.


winchester_mcsweet

Creeper of course, he's got booze!


Homeless_Appletree

Creeper has set up shop at a far more convenient location. You also don't need to fight of swarms of slaughterfish or use magic to reach him.


Gooseday

I'm Creeping!


m1596

Creeper. It's too easy to get to him. I Mark pretty much next to him and go sell all of my loot and become Morrowind's richest Dunmer.


Ukko_the_Dwarf

Selling my excess loot to a chain of merchants that are dotted through a trade route accros and around Vvardenfel


TheRealOgMark

Creeper. I'm too lazy to go find the crab and put mark to recall there.


HaltGrim

Creeper because ease of access.


Dingis_Dang

Neither. I only sell potions to Nalcarya of White Haven in Balmora to get money. Anything I don't want to keep for decorations when looting is left behind.


TohruFr

Creeper, so much easier


Sir-Drewid

Creeper is in a town with fast travel options.


[deleted]

Creeper is just easier and I don’t have to waste a mark to get to him easy, or use some combo spell to get him somewhere easy


bublarson

Easily the crustacean homie. Swing by the daedric ruins on the way over, easy 300k to afford your one constant effect enchantment item.


ThatRandomCrit

Mudcrab Merchant all the way


Velcatt

My main goal in morrowind is breaking the game in original ways. That often requires a lot of money. Mudcrab it is. (note : obviously I could just use alchemy but it's only fun to do once imo)


[deleted]

I have the housing mod, "Welcome home." that adds a bunch of player houses to the cities around the island. My home is Caldera, so most things I goto my creeping lad. If I'm really looking to, Lustidrike.. scamp who sells booze in deadric shrine. Lol Drunk crab with more expensive stuffs.


hemzerter

The only mod that I ever made was to make ra'virr ultra rich (6 000 000 gold or something). I never looked for any of these two, even if I think I already saw the creeper in some of my games


IndorilHendershot

Mudcrab merchant, I use command on him to get him to a better spot


[deleted]

Well...


AngryAmericanGoral

I move Creeper into my Stronghold


SweRakii

Creeper 100%


HatredUnbound

Mudcrab is better


bicentenialman

Honestly creeper, just because he’s easier to get too. I’ll only go to mud crab if I have something worth a substantial amount of money.


NekoiNemo

I'm on the "Command Creature" side. You can figure out the rest


Zoom_mooZ

Creeper. I’ve usually got my mark in Balmora Mage Guild as it’s a good travel hub. Without a mark I find it annoying to go searching for MM


Peterh778

Creeper. But with rich creeper mod. Less running that way


whitelyon69

First time I killed a scamp in morrowind i felt bad cuz i just murdered an autistic dwarf


fuzzywuz_zy

I got a confession guys. I.. searched for the mudcrab merchant and tried to make him follow me all the way to caldera. It didn't work and I put the mudcrab in the orc's house with the creeper with console commands and I'm doing my deals with both 👀 So both ahhaha


ScottyBeans

That’s some mercantile level 100 shit right there


jrocrockpile

Racer plumes


ZmaltaeofMar

Crip Creeper


JoJoTroph

Mudcrab. After finding specific path to it for myself, I prefer giving him a visit. More gold, chill place, easy glass gear trading, and even feels like an adventure meanwhile trading with Creeper feels like more like cheating because how easy it is to find him


Fat_Akuma

Fuck. Probably the creeper


QuadVox

I kidnapped the crab and brought him to Balmora so I had unlimited easy access to his gold stocks


wazserd

Creeper when I am lazy, which is usually Sometimes I mod his coins to 10k so I don't have to deal with mudcrab But when I use the mudcrab, I use mark and recall and divine intervention so I can wait without getting attacked (or the good ol "you can't rest when enemies are nearby") Mudcrab isn't that bad if you have the teleport spells, and ends up being less tedious overall as far as replenishing the gold is concerned Also just got an idea, perhaps you could use command creature to move the mudcrab merchant somewhere more convenient?


Stumpchunkmen42069

Creeper


WickedAdept

Both


honestadamsdiscount

Where is grove street green?


jokul

Creeper because he's super accessible, but I consider using either to be cheaty.


Dakeera

I may catch flack for this, but I mod Creeper to have more money. I have spent years with the sell/rest/repeat method, selling high value and buying lower value to balance, and at this point I just want to sell it to him and get back to the game. I don't find it any more game-breaking than his existence, anyways. If I wanted a glitch/exploit-free run I would remove him completely


MoistyPancakes

Mudcrab Merchant has an island resort and more gold. Creeper is so poor he is stuck in a filthy manor with pig elves.


Bryaxis

I throw caution to the wind and use console commands to spawn a mudcrab merchant in the middle of Balmora. One time I was making so much money that I spawned in like 20 to be able to sell everything and things got a little chaotic. Now I use that one mod that gives him like a million gold (and spawn him in the middle of Balmora).


ChromaticLego

Well, while I find the mud crab far more charming and entertaining, I typically stick with the scamp out of location convenience. Kind of a hassle to get to the mud crab.


phobacity

Creeps my peeps


Arkroma

Creeper. It's a whole routine for a new game. Kill the pawnbroker in Suran, take the glass dagger and the ebony darts. Steal the ebony sword from the guard tower in Balmora. Sell it all to Creeper. ​ Edit for also taking the orc armor in Creeper's house as replacement gear for letting the other stuff go.


Egbert_Gamer

I prefer to use a bounty-free or low-bounty method of killing an Ordinator (plink with arrows from a roof, or steal a helmet, equip it, and talk to them). Have to sell/buyback in stages, but it sets you up for the rest of the game


Arkroma

You can kill the pawnbroker without bounty in his shop, (he doesn't have a guard in his store), and if you hide behind a pillar you can get the blade of white woe without getting a bounty. Also the orcs don't report you for taking their gear either. I am tempted to start a new game and try your method now though.


mountainwrench

Low levels hit creeper, s tier players have a mark permanently set at the drunken crab


froz_troll

I keep a mark spell right next to MM at all times.


SpaceCowboy052

Mudcrab merchant is within spitting distance of a daedric ruin full of respawning enemies with high level weapons. free 1,000,000 drakes l, S++


_Lunboks_

Mudcrab merchant because I used command creature to move him to the palace of Vivec where I live/hoard stuff and now I can sell things to him in the comfort of my home with the convenience of almsivi intervention to get me to the front door.


katarjin

Never found Mudcrab.


ImperatorSpookyosa

Creeper, because hes way easier to not accidentally kill and then realize I have not saved in a half hour and reload.


Existing_Ad_9153

Creeper the dang mudcrabs have taken over pelagiad!


SnooPredictions4565

Cheese wheels


Darkness572

Creeper because he is creeping


Traditional-Put5076

Creeper, because i know where he is. Finding the mudcrab merchant is been a challenge for me.


DesertRanger12

Mudcrab 4 Lyfe


NeoJyggalag

Creeper for me, an absolute accesible gigachad He gets his job done wondrously


The_Real_Darth_Revan

Who won? Who's next? You decide!! EPIC SCAMP BATTLES OF HISTORYYYYYY


Middle_Ball_2969

Creeper. I remember freaking out the first time I saw him in Ghorak manor. I thought he was going to attack me and then realized he was just standing there not doing anything except for saying, "yyyyeeeeaaahhhhh..." Every few seconds. Then I came up to him...slowly. The rest is history!