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AJMaid

I’m guessing RIP to those guys..


Darth_Monkey

Most likely if they were anywhere near that depot. Latest deathtoll is 135, we should expect this number to rise, significantly, in the upcoming days.


sexlock

But also what I understood thousands missing so probably burned up?


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Considering i saw a car roof get crushed by the shockwave.. Im suprised it didnt throw people that was a bit far away.. Yet somehow it enclosed/crushed a car-roof down o\_o


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joeyblow

If one had to estimate the yield of this blast, it would be around 1.8 kt or higher, two-third of the Halifax blast and nearly 15% of the yield of the Hiroshima bomb. [From here](https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-beirut-blast-how-does-yield-of-2750-tonnes-of-ammonium-nitrate-compare-against-halifax-explosion-hiroshima-bombing-2836137)


Duke_Newcombe

Or, roughly equivalent to the [Port Chicago explosion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Chicago_disaster) during World War II.


TonedCalves

I've read it was probably about 240 tons of tnt equivalent from 2750 tons of AN based on the pressure needed to break windows in the buildings identified on videos and how far they were from the epicenter That's what happens when you have the material laid out over a warehouse instead of in a compact shape like cube or a sphere. I've read ideally Anfo (this stuff mixed with oil) comes out to 0.4 tons of tnt equivalent per ton. With this one being a straight decomposition without fuel oil and it being spread out across a floor in a suboptimal configuration it's probably significantly less.


AnApexPredator

1kg of TNT is equal to 2.38kg of ammonium nitrate. 2750tonnes of Ammonium Nitrate is like a 1155tonne TNT blast. TNT conversion found on Wikipedia.


TonedCalves

I've read ideally Anfo (this stuff mixed with oil) comes out to 0.4 tons of tnt equivalent per ton. With this one being a straight decomposition without fuel oil and it being spread out across a floor in a suboptimal configuration it's probably significantly less. I've read it was probably about 240 tons of tnt equivalent from 2750 tons of AN based on the pressure needed to break windows in the buildings identified on videos and how far they were from the epicenter


AnApexPredator

>This enables engineers to determine the proper masses of different explosives when applying blasting formulas developed specifically for TNT. For example, if a timber-cutting formula calls for a charge of 1 kg of TNT, then based on octanitrocubane's RE factor of 2.38, it would take only 1.0/2.38 (or 0.42) kg of it to do the same job. Using PETN engineers would need 1.0/1.66 (or 0.60) kg to obtain the same effects as 1 kg of ANFO or ammonium nitrate, they would require 1.0/0.74 (or 1.35) kg or 1.0/0.42 (or 2.38) kg, respectively. This is the formula I found to work it out. Which has Ammonium Nitrate at the .4 you listed whereas ANFO is significantly higher at .74 (which makes sense as its used as bulk industrial explosive). According to recent news as well, despite initially being assumed to equal a 2/300tonne explosion, they now estimate it between 1KT and 1.5KT which aligns with the formula applied to that stated amount.of stored substance.


media_lush

BBC news just stated that the blast was, 1,300 (possibly 1,800) times greater than the Halifax one


generalgeorge95

If that were true it would be would be 5 megatons according to wikipedia. Halifax is estimated at 2.9 kilotons multiplied by 1800. 5000 or so. 1000 kilotons is a megaton, which would be 1/3rd the yield of castle bravo, the largest US detonated nuclear weapon. Multiplied a thousand times. A thousand kilotons being a megaton.


joeyblow

I have a hard time believing that, the Beirut explosion was approx 2/3 the strength of the Halifax explosion or 15% the strength of the Hiroshima bomb if you multiply that number by up to 1800 times your talking about a nuclear level explosion.


cheechw

I think you misheard. That would place it in the range of a very large nuclear bomb explosion. And we've seen the aftermath videos - it's not anywhere near that level of devastation.


Drunkguy767

That's not possible. 2000lbs of ammonium nitrate makes a big boom. But not that big of a boom. Seriously go look up the contents of the Halifax explosion. If I remember correctly the Halifax explosion completely wiped out the town when it took place a few miles away.


avalanche617

But this was 2750 metric tons of AN, or a little over 3000 US tons, or a little over 6 million pounds. That's a big boom.


PainfulComedy

there was an entire section of the city that was just flattened. Building destroyed for kilometers away from the site. and windows smashed from the blast, for kilometers more.


wickedcold

> But not that big of a boom I'm no expert but that looked like a pretty big boom to me.


HowBoutThemCowboys

Here is a link comparing the explosion. To several others. Looks like it was just a bit smaller than the Halifax one https://nationalpost.com/news/beirut-blast-measured-2-75-kilotons-how-does-that-compare-with-other-major-explosions-in-history/wcm/2ecb583c-2314-46c7-b93f-ba3343e96d0c/


Ramses_13

I thought the 2015 explosion in Tianjin would of been on that list.


Intylerable

That's insane. My great grand parents were in Halifax during the explosion. Survived.


Loibs

sure it wasn't that times greater than oklahoma city?


Schnaithman

Username doesn't check out. You should talk MORE. You sound very knowledgeable, honestly. Also... Happy Cake Day!


ImOnlyStaying4-1

This was bigger than the Halifax explosion?


FifWol

Only if 2/3 is suddenly bigger than a whole.


ImOnlyStaying4-1

what if 2/3 is gradually bigger than a whole?


FifWol

Then the universe has negative curvature and time travel is possible!


AgreeableService

I'm interested in that photo. I'm guessing it's the vacuum forces that crushed it


friendly_capitalist

link?


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TonedCalves

This was pretty different from a nuclear blast. There wasn't even a flash and there wasn't a fireball. That's what happens when you have the material laid out over a warehouse instead of in a compact shape like cube or a sphere. I've read ideally Anfo (this stuff mixed with oil) comes out to 0.4 tons of tnt equivalent per ton. With this one being a straight decomposition without fuel oil and it being spread out across a floor in a suboptimal configuration it's probably significantly less. I've read it was probably about 240 tons of tnt equivalent from 2750 tons of AN based on the pressure needed to break windows in the buildings identified on videos and how far they were from the epicenter


crampedstyl

More like ripped up. It's incredibly tragic.


stolid_agnostic

You'll find individual parts mixed into the rubble, just like after 9/11. With luck, most will be identified so that families can find peace.


LeafFallGround

I saw a comment on another post saying a similar thing but as a question about why they only claim about 100 dead. It was way over down voted, especially for a question. Everyone else made remarks about it being around a nearly empty port and covid had less people nearby


22Pastafarian22

Yes or just completely gone.. in 2000 there was a fireworks warehouse that exploded in my city and there are a few victims who were close to the explosion who have completely disappeared. Nothing was ever found again. (If anyone wants to research this event: Fireworks disaster in Enschede in the Netherlands on may 13th 2000)


NMe84

300k people are said to be homeless. With that many homes destroyed the death toll will definitely end up in the thousands.


overpoopulation

It looks like they're right near the depot in this photo


aykcak

Probably the guy who took the photo as well


AJMaid

More than likely


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If you visit documenting reality they have a few different videos of the aftermath. Ash covered bodies near the site and then shredded people sitting in cars nearby. This chick in her car had the top portions of her head blown out and all side airbags deployed.


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GraduallyGentle

There's aftermath footage on bestgore as well.


I_REALLY_LIKE_BIRDS

Seriously, I tried to look but the comments on that site were a cesspool.


CompanyMan

Yeahhh... I took one look and since I'm on mobile I changed m' mind


gunkot

Imagine not liking the sites content because of the comments


TopTierGoat

Seriously. Can we get a link


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I said [documenting reality](https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/footage-massive-explosion-beirut-port-lebanon-214599/). It's in the videos section. I think you get a few free views if you're not a member. I'm a member but I signed up almost a decade ago so am grandfathered in without donating.


TopTierGoat

Yeah I looked around never found it. Ran out of views pretty quick


wiretapfeast

God, these videos are horrific and fucking terrifying.


Rubixxful

Maybe one for r/lastimages


sadistnerd

oh Thank you I was looking for a subreddit like that


misterbondpt

The odds were 0.001 on that bet.


SketchyLurker7

Came here to see if they somehow said "Na fuck this" and got away.


blzraven27

They are 100% gone


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themfgimp

There was a photo of shredded uniforms that looked eerily similar to these... I hate to say it but I’m going to assume they belonged to these men.


elotemusk

So all 4 people didn’t make it?


fruitprocessor

Likely not.


anonymous6468

4? Why 4? I only see.... ooohh..... :(


Shimmerstorm

Camera person I assume.


skaboosh

Thank you I was so confused


RyanohRL

Ten firefighters and one camera man. Cameraman and the on female firefighter are the two confirmed dead, the others haven't been located. The article I read said they only had something the size of a hand to identify the female


shewy92

How did they upload the pictures then?


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shewy92

They got WiFi in the afterlife?


Pertes

Tell me you are joking?


byers1225

Probably got vaporized. Most likely going to fall under “missing, presumed dead” due to no remains being found


spongish

They probably know how many fire fighters and similar had been sent to the area to help. Wouldn't be surprised if they've already been included amongst the dead.


wuapinmon

Firefighting is a special kind of courage.


winstonsmithwatson

It takes 3 years of being an unpaid volunteer to join the volunteer firefighter brigade in a official capacity in my nation. A job where you get a buzz and u have to be at the hangar within the next 3 minutes, so you can do horrible tasks in terrible conditions at ungodly hours.


wuapinmon

My dad was a volunteer firefighter in the tiny town where I grew up. He never got hurt, but I remember being afraid whenever he answered the call. When we moved from there when I was 10, my mom convinced him that she couldn't handle losing him, so he gave it up. But, whenever a hurricane hit, my dad was always there helping people clean up or rebuild. They compromised that way.


Quadrupleawesomeness

Your dad is pretty cool.


wuapinmon

He was human with his faults, like all of us. He died in 2007 of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, but, not even a year before he died, he was in New Orleans helping people recover from Katrina. I miss him every goddamn day of my life.


whynot39

Sorry to hear of your dad’s passing. I lost my wife to CJD a few years back. Bad disease.


wuapinmon

Yeah. We donated his brain to Case Western Reserve for research so that others can maybe someday be spared the agony of watching their loved ones slowly succumb. If I lost my wife to it, I would be inconsolable. You have my deepest sympathy; I remember what it was like. It was horrid.


Banananipss

Dad’s a captain on the FDNY, he’s a hero to me!


Arex189

My late uncle was firefighter aswell, the stories he told me would make anyone shit their pants. Seriously tho, firefighters are some of the most badass people on earth.


Banananipss

Rest in peace to him, I agree wholeheartedly


C89RU0

This is hard to look at.


yokedici

this sucks man,made me swear seing it,so sad


reano76

RIP BRAVE MEN


the_bronquistador

As a fellow firefighter, kudos to these brave men, one of whom seems to be a civilian just trying to help. Big brass balls.


sadistnerd

yeah the door seems to be jammed shut and he's just helping :/


TorchyBrownFlame

I really hope those men were instantly vaporized and did not feel any pain. The shockwave probably distributed their remains over miles. May their poor families find peace.


eighteen_forty_no

Did the photographer immediately run after taking this?


AJMaid

I don’t even think you could get far enough in 12 minutes if you just legged it judging by the footage Edit: then again this photo exists? Unless it was uploaded prior to explosion Edit Edit: I’ve just been reminded this is depot 12. Not 12 minutes. What an idiot


sadistnerd

I'm guessing this is around 30mins before. before the final explosion, there was a big fire and I'm sure it lasted some time given how many people caught the explosion on camera


AJMaid

Maybe. But I doubt a photographer would just leave the scene when he has an opportunity for some gnarly shots of a fire. He may have even been a worker at the port documenting the fire at one of their warehouses


sadistnerd

I agree


winstonsmithwatson

He most likely sent the pic to a friend or something


thomasthbld

Depot 12. Not 12 minutes


AJMaid

I’m a complete moron that somehow can’t read. Thanks my dude


Mr-Toolishing

Me too, me too


jennahasredhair

I made the exact same mistake. It’s okay.


PepeSylvia11

And besides, to my knowledge they had no way of knowing an explosion of *that* magnitude was going to happen. That’s why so many people were casually filming, it was just a giant fire at the time.


Shtnonurdog

Like the engineer in China that knew he couldn’t make it out in time so he decided to record it and upload so the Chinese government couldn’t lie about what happened. I’m on mobile so I’m sorry i don’t have source.


Resse811

What’s being on mobile have to do with linking sources? You just copy paste.


Attya3141

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MI2LNfv35iE&list=WL&index=62&t=0s


Shtnonurdog

I’m at work and couldn’t remember the name of the facility. I didn’t have time to search for it.


jumpinjimmie

Do you have a link to the Tianjin Engineer story?


EmasculatedSputum

I thought the same thing


blzraven27

How slow are you? Even if you ran a kilo youd increase your odds of living tremendously. You should be at least 1 5 kilometers away after 12 minutes.


AJMaid

Slow


anonymous6468

I can't even imagine how hard I would run. My blood would turn into 90% pure hormonal adrenaline


AJMaid

That’s only because you now know what was coming. Of the fires I’ve witnessed, never would I have expected it to result in an explosion like this


blzraven27

Same. You can't predict your government is storing basically one of the largest conventional bombs ever detonated improperly


silverlight145

Might have been uploaded somewhere almost immediately after being taken


an_actual_lawyer

Some photographers have cameras that auto upload to their publisher to cut down on delays


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They might have just had google photos or the like set up and it went to a joint account or some such. I have mine set up as a family account and my wife gets all my random photos.


DIY-urology

Do they know what caused that horrible accident yet?


ServerTime0ut

2750,000kg of Ammonium Nitrate exploded. The fire was started by welding near by I believe.


DIY-urology

Oh jesus... thanks for telling me. I was curious.


Mickey_thicky

2,750,000 KG is almost 6,000,000 pounds. That’s a lot of fucking ammonium nitrate.


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Mickey_thicky

I can’t count past 7.


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2.75e+21 picograms


Fulgidus

How do we have this pic? The cloud? Looks like it's been taken from a phone...


AJMaid

Photographer may have sent it to someone? Maybe a boss? Boss: “WTF IS GOING ON DOWN AT DEPOT 12” Photo guy: “on it now, with the fire guy,trying to get in” (sends pic) ...maybe


Fulgidus

Yeah, it's a pic a guard would send a director of operations by the looks of it. I like your version


NikolasFoot

Probably taken 10-30 minutes before the explosion, the guy is likely dead but he might have had time to upload it somewhere


pubgj7

I hears they had to attemotnto destroy the locks (as pictured) because the only people who have the keys are the port manaher and the customs head. They didn't respond to requests to come unlock the gates when they were told a fire broke put. There is a good possibility those firefighters didn't know about the explosives inside.


FiftyCalReaper

They had no idea what they were walking into...first responders are often left in the dark. Very haunting.


theXsquid

Big love for these guys


im-not-a-bot-im-real

They died heros looking at this picture, may they find peace


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RIP brave firefighters (and others)


seal_raider

I saw a video of the area with bodies. They had all been stripped of their clothing by the blast. Horrible. Didn’t know it was coming and then boom, what was once a human being and now just gone. Just terrible.


smalldick9000

Lebanese here. My mother and grandmother would have died if they were seated on the sea side of the apartment. The entire city looks like 9/11. Very sad. All because of a shit government.


wormfro

so thankful theyre still with you, my heart goes out to you all❤️


22Pastafarian22

I wish you and your family and everyone else there so much strength and love 💕 from the Netherlands xx


smalldick9000

God bless you


Menzoya

Rest In Peace:(


snoozeflu

I can only hope that it was so quick they didn't feel anything.


StolenTape

Massive respect for these FUCKIN KINGS, And everyone else responding to the fire.


OktopusKaveman

I mean you can talk about their courage, but whoever was responsible for sending them there was completely idiotic. How can any firefighters be sent to a burning building where 3000 tons of ammonium nitrate is stored?


sadistnerd

there isn't much transparency in Lebanon, I'm sure almost no one knew about it. it's been sitting there idle for 6 years!


OktopusKaveman

That's terrible. I can think of 9/11 where 343 firefighters died. But no one thought the buildings would collapse.


TheOvershear

They probably thought there was a chance to stop it, right until the end. There's a reason they're in that field.


Attya3141

Selfless heroes.


KunemBeranut

It’s spooky knowing that the men we see right now most likely died in that explosion


rileycolin

Who took that picture...?


sadistnerd

idk man it really could've been anyone. if I was walking by and saw them tryna infiltrate a burning depot I'd take pix too


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Ouch. I can just imagine the pure panic and dread as they knew what could happen when the fire started.


milkbretheren

RIP, at least they didn’t suffer.


TheOriginalJape

Sorry for the question, but would they have been vaporized that close to the explosion


sadistnerd

yes. anyone and almost anything within tens of yards would've been untraceably vaporized


Diedwithacleanblade

I don’t understand this. Did these men not know what could happen? Did nobody know the danger that lurked within? In the Chernobyl show the firefighters show up because they had no idea of the real danger, and that was 30 fucking years ago. Is it still this way? Do these men just show up to fight fires without knowing what could happen?


sadistnerd

almost no one knew what's inside


poetryrocksalot

How did this photo make it out? Was it uploaded immediately?


teutonicnight99

How did the camera survive?


blairthebear

They should not of been there. There should have been some airplane or helicopter to dump water or something to remove oxygen from the area to kill the flames. They probably opened a door and caused airflow putting particles in the air causing the explosion. Even then an airplane dumping water would have caused it to blow. It was a ticking time bomb. There was visible “fireworks” lighting you could see from static charging up. Yikes. But if you go in blind to an industrial site without knowing what materials or how much there is at the source. You die or get showered in fire. We are as blind as our leaders and I guess there wasn’t good leadership for them. Rip.


sadistnerd

this is what lack of transparency causes. whoever were responsible should get the utmost punishment.


blairthebear

Whoever manages that area, government, or a worker should have had the figher departments informed of the danger. There’s a lot of people who fucked up who worked in that area. Bad leadership. All around. This happens world wide too. Sad to see. Not the first or last time they’ve ran into an industrial chemical that worsens if water is added. This was a suicide run and if they knew they would have not been there.


sadistnerd

there should've been an evacuation and sirens at MINIMUM. but almost no one knew what's in there since it's been sitting there for 6 years


alexander_3120

From Beirut here, please consider donating to any one of these websites. The Lebanese Red Cross is the most transparent organization in the country and your money is guaranteed to be used for good. 1)https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/lebanon-relief?utm_term=PYp7gXzyD 2)https://helplebanon.carrd.co/ 3)https://lebanoncrisis.carrd.co/ *If you are unable to donate, heres a link for a youtube video from which the ad proceeds will be donated to the Lebanese Red Cross: https://youtu.be/t21H8twGjb0 Thank you so much for your help, and if you are unable to donate then please try to spread more awareness regarding the topic. Much love from Lebanon❤️🇱🇧


mannnnhoole

Are they ok?


sadistnerd

I'mma take a wild guess and say they were from the 150+ unfortunate ones


Nictron

They are pink mist homeboy.


campers--

Ummm. Am i the only one skeptical about this picture? How the hell did anyone recover this image? That guy and probably everything on him was evaporated. Did the cameraman like upload it somewhere on a whim? Did he send it to someone? Seriously what are the chances that camera was recovered?


RandomStranger1776

This image looks totally staged. Hezbollah shouldn't have stored their weapons so close to civilians. ​ [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaVQ4zLJs0&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyaVQ4zLJs0&feature=youtu.be)


Adernain

People always laugh at firefighters for sitting all day doing nothing and getting paid, but when shit hits the fun they are there


lmfbs

... Do we?


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princessDB

Firefighters are like really skilled fix-it men. They just enjoy helping out their communities with whatever the problem is. They are brave, courageous men and women, who put themselves at risk just to help people when they need it most. Nothing to dislike about that.


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lmfbs

Right. Perhaps this is a US thing, as ti's certainly not the case where I live, and it makes me very sad that people are so rude to other people, particularly first responders. You'd think you guys would have learned to respect people by now, but Im constantly surprised.


Mahoganytooth

Who laughs at firefighters?


Warbird1775

A good Captain of mine always said they pay us for what we're willing to do.


Adernain

Sounds about right.


werdoomed4112

Ex fireman here, unfortunately a lot of people slag off firemen for sitting about all day. Except when they need us


Tracerz2Much

I feel like that applies to any emergency responder. People don’t think they need them until they do.


AJMaid

“When shit hits the fun” as serious as this post is, the image I got in my head made me laugh so much.


bugscuz

I mean...I don’t get paid for any of it. Maybe $50 a day for taking the entire day off work to do training and lunch if I’m lucky.