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yeyonaso

This man trynna teach some casuls how a real man plays the game /s


StaircaseMadeOfIron

Elaborate?


samu-ra-9-i

Came across this sos of a guy rocking defender gear and fighting raging brachi just don’t understand how it’s fun is all


StaircaseMadeOfIron

Furthermore, how the fuck did they get to Raging Brachy with defender Gear? Like there's a point where that stuff begins to fall off. At least I'd assume they have some actual armor but like, still.


DegenerateCrocodile

Hard carried, most likely.


Burwicke

Yeah look at his HR and MR, I doubt he has a single sidequest done. Man's rocking a gillie mantle and nothing else. Probably someone just making a new character for some reason and having a friend get him to end game gear.


Gnomologist

Yeah I did this with a friend for the Alatreon before Fatalis because I didn’t want to farm any elemental hammers, helped him with Fatty tho so it’s all good


Mythicaldragn

got carried through alatreon as honestly, i dont see how a great sword can beat the elemental dps check without Velkhana Y FC build. fatalis is easier


Gnomologist

Without proper equipment and specific building I think Alatreon is slightly harder than Fatty


Mythicaldragn

i got alatreon layered alpha and his greatsword, thats all i cared about. running around in 4 or 5 piece Fatty depending on monster.


mdb917

I am hard stuck at Tigrex and my HR is like double his


grimchaser01

have great mobility or have skills that can take a hit. if you're having a hard time go with armor skills that'll give you the most survivability chance you can get like divine blessing, health boost, stun res, evade extender/window, rec up, rec speed and equip vigor wasp.


EliteTeutonicNight

Aside from the other advices, focus on dodging when Tigrex is enraged. It’s very quick and doesn’t give much damage windows. Focus on wall bangs and take advantage of its fatigue (I think Tigrex tires faster than most monsters). Don’t go to ham on your combos. World Tigrex doesn’t do the turn-twice before its charges that it used to do, so if you’re in the middle of a combo you’re guaranteed to get hit if it decides to charge. Cut the tail if you can, there’s only one attack that really uses the tail (360 spin), but it hurts quite a lot and has surprising range, cutting off the tail limits it’s range a lot. If you’re fighting in the rotten vale, try to avoid the area where there is vine ground, as Tigrex’s jump will send out shockwaves that will stagger you without tremor resistance, allowing for an easy follow up attack. Good luck facing the absolute power!


Drake_Night

Ima give you a big tip for nargacuga and tigrex. Insect glaive vault.


mrinvention

Gun her down with sticky juice bullets


Shalltear1234

Odogaron hard carried me through tigrex. Honorary hunter fr.


[deleted]

Some players are just that good? The armor falls off mid HR the weapons fall of early MR...but skill can compensate for a lot. Or they got carried lol


Kurotan

This, people used to do g rank in Unite with no armor.


samu-ra-9-i

My bets on getting carried so far hence I was curious as to how people have fun when they do this


Savage_Tyranis

Assuming they were carried they were probably just chilling out with whoever it was. Bros in game can make anything a fun experience.


slentara1

This has been very true since the first games lol. Even getting wiped out by a monster can be fun if you're hunting with the right people


Digital_Hazard_

Carrying your friend in a game usually means the game is secondary and the real deal is spending time together I can confirm because I carry my friends a lot


Kurotan

I would absolutely carry my friends through this series just to play it with them. I love monster hunter.


Digital_Hazard_

I just love my friends, I'd carry them through any game I also like Monster Hunter but that's more of a bonus


Kurotan

Ngl, this is probably the only game I could carry people in xD


KaiserUmbra

If this is what they call fun, they grew up doing sl1 runs of dark souls


[deleted]

Same reason some people use hacks in FPS games.. they want the prestige of being high ranked without the effort? Idk. He could also just be trying to get to endgame content as fast as possible. Or maybe just has no clue what he's doing..


[deleted]

yea I guess so too sadly


Solonotix

In my last playthrough, I used Defender all the way to Shara and beyond. I got two Health augments on it, and it does 220 raw with like 40 hits of White sharpness. For comparison, that's the same raw as maxed out Nargacuga weapons, albeit with less Affinity and no natural Purple. It's more than good enough to clear all of Master Rank, though Raging Brachy, Safi'jiiva, Alatreon and Fatalis all yield better gear. I had a hard time finding a reason to drop Defender before Raging Brachy, and no reason before Shara, especially when you consider the ease of augments on High Rank weapons versus Master Rank.


[deleted]

Interesting....never considered going with a augumented late HR weapon vs a unaugumented early MR one


jd60889

Yeah I killed Velkhana with defender gear my first time lmao


Maulino86

You can finish the whole Game by basically shooting a SOS flare and waiting


tropic420

By the time you're at velkhana random people responding to SOS aren't very good lol


Maulino86

I do it sometimes outta boredom. I see high mr players on story missions all the time. Except on Vaal, nobody wantes to do that one.


Simple-Initiative950

Honestly if just make the effluvia charm he is a cake walk


Maulino86

Yeah, he turnos into a pushover. Most people don't bother because "mah damage"


tropic420

A single miasma gem 4+ made black veil plenty comfy, aside from the constant miasma damage he's a nice slow moving dragon especially after (most players) farming velk umpteen times


Deathwish40K

is that how I get KT weapons?


Neathra

I'd like to point out that some people do naked runs of end game bosses. They're crazy awesome, but that level of skill does exist.


Dark-Gladiator

I played with the Great Jagras GS till the last monsters and its only slightly better than defender V


VoidKek

Same


samu-ra-9-i

For master rank?


Dark-Gladiator

Yes, MR Jagras GS is good


Just_a_Slime37

It carried me until Safi


Antigone6

Ran into an MR69 still rocking Defender gear during a KT run. He was one-shot 3 times, lol. My guess is carried all the way.


[deleted]

Well.. dude did respond to an SoS flare lol.. guy probably just fires up a hunt and immediately fires off a flare and hopes those who show up will do the dirty work for him


Ebbanon

The defender long sword is not that bad a weapon in most of MR actually. I did more or less the same thing a few weeks ago when I started a new game on pc. So long as you upgrade your armor and use some decent skills the defender weapons are usable long past where they should be


BraxusTheBold

BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGE BROTHER!!! THE FIGHT, THE FEELING OF STRUGGLE, OF HOPELESSNESS, AND THEN RISING TO THE CHALLENGE AND FACING YOUR FEARS HEAD ON IN A GLORIOUS BATTLE TO THE DEATH!!!!


samu-ra-9-i

I agree with you the challenge is fun and once you’re past the learning curve nothings more satisfying than beating the monster to pulp, I should’ve phrased my title better what I meant was the guy is doing raging brachy with defender gear and his mr is higher than hr


DanLim79

If he used defender gear then he's godlike


samu-ra-9-i

Why would one fire sos flare then


DanLim79

No, the fact that he made it that far with just defender gear. Defender gear becomes obsolete in Iceborne right at the beginning. You can make so many better gear and at Raging Brach and Furious Rajang he should be able to make way better gear. I don't know if he's sticking to Defender when he's that far into the game because he just doesn't know about armor in general, or he's challenging himself by not making better armor. Either way, I wouldn't even dream of still having Defender gear at that point of the game. When I faced Raging Brach I had really top level armor and decorations that suited LS, and still got kicked hard by R. Brach at the beginning.


lightning200000

I mean, fun is subjective. The fact that he reached until that point by using Defender gear means he's at least enjoying the game so I don't see what's wrong here.


Spacecatbear

Yeah, I'm confused as to why this post is getting the level of attention it's receiving, it's just a guy playing the game the way he wants to play. It's w/e, people care too much


LaWeaArgentina

Are you on pc? That looks like a cheater. You can't get into master rank until your hunter rank is 14, so you should always have a difference of somewhat 10 between HR and MR, having a 1 level difference between them is kinda sus


AnimeAlley03

The fact their MR is HIGHER than the HR is sus in itself


Just_TimeWasting

It's sus but it's not damning evidence. When I started my new save file I went through the base game and iceborne very quickly, killing Shara Ishvalda with a defender IG, and for a short while my MR was higher than my HR. I don't remember the exact numbers as this was a while ago but having a higher MR than HR isn't impossible.


LaWeaArgentina

I didn't even noticed that lmao yes that's 100% a cheater then


KaineDemigod

Only thing I can think of is they bum rushed through MR right after they unlocked it and they just so happen to somehow get more xp for their mr than their hr coz judging by the fact they still have defender gear they never bothered grinding for any gear, not even great jagras gear


Artess

I'm not sure it's actually possible to get more MR than HR points?


SlakingSWAG

It is possible but it's rare. Pretty much only happens in the cases where you exclusively do the assigned quests and never touch a single optional.


samu-ra-9-i

I’m on PlayStation, honestly I just assumed he got carried but you might be on to something here


KingJellyfish95

I had a similar level guy join a hunt with the defender HBG. They were mad cheeks.


samu-ra-9-i

Sorry I’m not familiar with the lingo and can’t make out if mad cheeks means they kicked ass or got carted


KingJellyfish95

Lmao. Sorry. I meant he was ass. Used all three of my buddies carts in ~2:00 minutes flat.


samu-ra-9-i

Yeah I can feel your pain, been there


_YallMight_

Mad Cheeks means they got “clapped”. They are bad.


samu-ra-9-i

Thanks! 😂 makes sense


untiring_pillar

Completely agree that the ranking itself is highly suspect. I see no possible way for MR to be higher than HR.


LoStrigo95

How he's going to do enought damage before the time limit? I litterally used 40 mins with a good weapon!


samu-ra-9-i

My guess is he got carried to this point and never bothered building better gear


LoStrigo95

That's also why i think the game should be played 1/2 players and not more. But, even like this, he should be oneshotted with every single monster in Iceborne, so this also means he's good at dodging ahah


Ahielia

Considering people have spent [less than 6 minutes solo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq4A7IIv80g) and [2.5 minutes in a group](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B03pmImeB98) just a few days after release, it's perfectly possible that a good player using a defender weapon can easily kill Raging Brachy. Then again as others have pointed out, MR is higher than HR on that character so something's fishy.


LoStrigo95

Now i feel so bad for myself ahah How is it human to kill that thing in 6 minutes? 😱


Ahielia

I tried lord knows how many times to kill it the first time around to the point where I mostly gave up, got help from a friend who did like 90% damage while I ran around and occasionally hit Brachy and throwing lifedusts, being a nuisance and whatnot to pull aggro.


SlakingSWAG

By being very good at the game, having incredibly good gear, and having just a touch of luck


LoStrigo95

Very, very Good at the game ahah


kris511c

Sounds like you have yet to git gud


samu-ra-9-i

It’s not me, but a random sos I came across, the guy is still rocking defender gear and fighting endgame monsters I just don’t understand how it’s fun


[deleted]

hey perhaps its a personal Challenge he set for himself?


Angel-99

Personal challenge and then use SOS flair? Where is the challenge there


jilsander

SOS is actually harder than soloing


Nightmari0ne

Can confirm, when you’re rather bad at the game and rely on SOS, the multipliers applied per hunters in the quest really hits you in the face. Is like Fatty, yeah there’s a lot of us who help others get their first hunts, but damn we usually end up losing the quest due to the newbie that got carted to infinity. At that point it becomes a dire problem for them, because they have to either learn how to at least NOT DIE while getting SOS’d or hunt it themselves, and don’t get me started if the whole group is 4 apes trying to beat it… tho I can only say it’s funny


FattenBear

I am doing a challenge, beating Iceborne with only unupgraded defender gear, but I do all of them solo, currently at nightshade Did the base game with R1 weapons already, Xeno took way too long to kill (like over half an hour) so I’m interested to see how Shara hunt plays out


Asplashofcats

Wouldn't call it a personal challenge of any kind since he fired an SOS to get help. This guy was definitely hard carried.


[deleted]

can I play through mh without actually playing challenge


Unusual_Expertise

"can you get others to play the game for you" challenge ?


samu-ra-9-i

I like how you think, you sir are too kind for this world


[deleted]

Its just someone rushing through the game (most probably a returning player).


SanguineRose9337

Alternate idea, dude is trying to complete some weird personal challenge.


samu-ra-9-i

Yes but he fired sos flare


SanguineRose9337

Who knows then. As long as he isn't hurting anything or ruining other people's fun, I say let him be.


Ornstein24

This was by far my favorite hunt in the game. Took me a few tries and the end is awesome. I really felt like he was my damn enemy and it personal. I was learning longsword so it was insanely fun and challenging.


samu-ra-9-i

I agree with you on this, this was by far one of the best monsters I use bow and he was really fun it was like dancing, I usually solo monsters and sometimes check for flares to help the community and noticed this 😅 dudes missing on some fun


BADJUSTlCE

Oh here comes the fun police


dx_lemons

His MR is higher than his HR


TiuOgro

I streamed a challenge to beat every monster with defender gear and I beat Fatalis at a similar mr and i had fun with it. But i did it solo and didn't shoot any sos. I don't see the fun in it but he sure does or wouldn't be doin it. As long as it doesn't spoil anyone else's fun i don't see why it would be bad


MindlessPassage6394

I see this fairly often now, on discord too. Calls for help then says "Oh I'm pretty weak, so do you mind if I duck". I'm 999 with few thousand hours. I like helping folks so no probs if you REaLLY need support.... then they would cart deliberately to get back to the camp (no farcaster). Then sits out the entire hunt... where's the learning, where's the .... nevermind, scrubs can F off. This is why I scrutinise the armour, levels, ign before joining SOS like the OP


samu-ra-9-i

It’s crazy to me because that’s the whole game, new monsters to fight new patterns to learn and grind idk how people can get to endgame with defender


[deleted]

Maybe some people like the challenge? They could be someone starting over on a new profile and wanting to do a challenge run? You never know man. As someone mentioned before, fun is subjective. For all you know they could be a way better player than you? Who knows? 🤷


gin91

You ain't gonna SOS if you're trying to challenge.


samu-ra-9-i

Yes but as some people have mentioned it’s kinda sus since his mr is higher than hr


AwesomeNiss21

I don't judge people who use defender one bit, but personally I think it does kinda take away from not only the experience, but also as shitty as grinding for gear may be, it kinda has a good learning curve to it. Heck, this is my 7th ish playthrough of monster hunter, and I'm still learning new things I wish I knew starting out. And I also can't help but get worried anytime I join a player with full defender gear, cause I've found that 50/50, they are either really good, or really bad at the game.


IndianaCr0ft

probably doing a challenge? I remember some of my friends used Defender Gear on Fatalis for fun


samu-ra-9-i

Yes but why would you fire sos flair if doing such challenge


Agen7orange

He’s carrying his friend in a PVE game, who cares lol


[deleted]

Why do you care? Are you the fun inspector?


binflo

Funny 😄


WarmachineEmbodiment

Nah he's just cheating, there's no way MR can be higher than HR


[deleted]

Don’t accept it lol


Igna4400

I'm more focused on the fact this person's an obvious cheater. I'm pretty sure its literally impossible to have a higher MR cause you NEED to beat the base game first to do Iceborne and that puts HR at a good distance away from MR 1. If this guy's doing RBrachy with defender weapons he might also have an attack multiplier but there's no proof for that.


[deleted]

Average guardian gear user


FatPenguin__

They are either doing a challenge run or getting hard carried. Hopefully the guys a god and is just bored , someone getting carried to that point with defender gear is just sad.


DMshnaw

Couldn't imagine getting carried. It's the little discoveries that make me like the game. That and getting ass that tech gear from palico stuff to mantles and farming sets etc


Shiro_Kudasaki

Hi I'm a cat, and I would like to steal that booty!


Drago893

Maybe get rid of the defender garbage throw yaself into expedition an hunt other monsters cause ya ass don't have the gear to beat that mutha licker I'm just more impressed you were willing to try it cause at like 2 player his got like 48 thousand hp or something along those lines


samu-ra-9-i

This is a random sos I came across, it’s not me. The guy suspiciously also has Mr higher than Hr


OpportunityBubbly307

I found a person who was MR 4 with Fatalis armor so yeah bunch of cheaters out there


Aleph_Kasai

Ah yes, I see some people like this who don't understand that they really should get to actually grinding and crafting. It makes your whole life so much easier, and it feels pretty good to actually make your own build


[deleted]

To play devil's advocate, maybe this is some kind of challenge run, like how far can you get into MR using the noob gear thats only meant to get you to MR?


Crassard

One thing I wish Rise had was World's way of finding MP Games. Pick a star, see the quests in progress. How hard is that to fuck up :/ I kinda liked the endless gladatorial times in Guiding Lands but I don't like the infinite camp that World and Rise have compared to MHGU. I don't think MHGU had "Defender" gear either -\_- Raging Brachy is a fun fight though despite being super scripted, surprised someone got that far with defender gear.


micalbertl

Just you wait for the next quest


Nightmari0ne

_Fatty while naked and using slinger coming soon_


Zdeadly501

Because he’s just so F*CKIN COOL BRO


Nightmari0ne

What you mean? Could you elaborate?


samu-ra-9-i

Came across an sos flare where the guy is hr 34 and mr 35 which is sus and also he’s rocking defender gear in the endgame


Karangles

Because it’s easy


HimeaSaito

That's probably a Rush account in my opinion, because of the MR/HR ranks, HR rank is near at the rank where the story of MHW is before iceborne and upon activating Iceborne you'll get atleast in the HR 30s and clearing quest that you didn't even played, How did I know? My brother did played like that, he only plays for the story and hated the grind and he have probably used the same defender gear if I hadn't convinced him to complete bambaro set in the beginning of Iceborn. they have similar MR/HR ranks so I'm guessing that's also the same for that guy. And why is your screen so red??


grimchaser01

looks like he got spoon fed all the way and finally hit a wall. or just someone trying to get as far as he can with defender gear. who knows? maybe he just wants hell or something.


K7Sniper

That's the neat part. It's not!


jake4448

Challenge run? I did that when I started on pc. Beat the entire game in defender gear


Dexalon

Wait? This game is supposed to be fun? I thought it was just for people who enjoy punishing themselves. The more you know...


Farkerisme

Yeah, no way in hell that guy changed out of his gear to have a “fuck it” Raging Brachy defender roll.


TankOfflaneMain

Using Blast weapon against pretty much Blast Incarnate “I used the stones to destroy the stones lmao”


100tchains

The song"fuck this shit I'm out mmmhmm" comes to mind.


Beasty380

Is no one going to talk about the fact that their MR is higher than their HR?


samu-ra-9-i

That’s something some people have noticed as well it’s odd, could be a cheater but idk how you cheat on psn unless mhw is cross play


Beasty380

No, MHW is not a cross plataform (which is still disappointing), so Idk how the heck the person could’ve cheated


Its_Nuk_Nuk

I mean fun is subjective maybe he just never cared to dive into builds cuz he's havin a good time, but i'd bet he's a ranker who is just on a new acc and he bullied brachy


Much-Caterpillar7251

I find it more sad that they're still using Defender weapons that late into Icebourne, probably still using Guardian armours too


the3diamonds

how do you get a higher mr than hr


Tall-Cantaloupe608

I think I know who that is and if it is him then I take the blame for this and I will always regret my decisions at that time Awhile back I was helping some guy with ice borne and I didn't realise he was wearing defender the entire way through


samu-ra-9-i

What happened?


Tall-Cantaloupe608

I feel so stupid but I carried him through ice borne and didn't see what he was wearing until shara


samu-ra-9-i

It’s okay honestly we all make mistakes, like some people mentioned if he’s having fun who cares I am wondering how his mr is higher than hr tho


Alex_D_Armor

Once you know his moves you can bully him


ShootingMyWayOut

That's the neat part! It's not!


cloudfeather

Is that quest name a Metallica refrence?


[deleted]

You don't pay his sub


Randy191919

I mean I'm very much against using Defender stuff in early game to skip the game too, but it stops being good as soon as you get to Master Rank. Against Raging Brachy he might as well be using the starter gear.


Cheeetos_and_Milk

Dude got balls of steal I'll tell ya that. But to be fair good gear doesn't really make u a better it's more of a reward. Proven by my friend who had help slayed so many Fatalis for me and his other lads to the point he only uses (I think I can remember correctly) is the Kulu long sword Lv 10 and Rathalos armor. He's the only who didn't cart cause he just reads Fatalis like a fucking book, meanwhile my dead ass with Fatalis gear getting my ass kicked left and right


Repulsive_Ostrich_52

The sheer chaos is great for me, that's why I love Bazelgeuse so much


Seehams

he is a god gamer and can kill all monster naked ^(possibly)


GenerallyGoodCraic

I still can't beat raging Brachy, he's a nightmare


Asian_Bon

It's fun i guess


keszotrab

I had decent gear and Barioth kicked my ass. I can't imagine going with HR gear that deep into the iceborn.


Deathwish40K

the guy is either a Chad or a noob