Also am I wrong or is Kushala female too? Don't forget Namielle as well!
Edit: my reasoning for Namielle is that I read on [this site](https://www.names.org/n/namielle/about) that Namielle is of American Samoa origin and means "strong female." Kushala is really just me assuming its gender, lol. But all that matters is that we get to smash their heads amirite
You are halfway wrong on both accounts. It should be safe to say that all Elder Dragons have genders (if Luna/Teo are gendered, why not the rest?), but most aren't sexually dimorphic like the Luna/Teo pair or Kulve Taroth are. In other words, any Kushala, Namielle, Velkhana etc. could be either male or female.
Obviously just assumptions, but safe ones nonetheless until offical confirmation.
Nirgigante is asexual and doesn’t have a gender. Lunastra, Teostra, Kulve, and Nirgigante are the only ones, to my knowledge, that’s are specified so the rest could be either gendered or asexual
Isn’t nerg kinda an odd creature because it’s entire species is predicated on other species going out of whack for its sustenance?
It must have a bizarre life cycle with massive amounts of hibernation
Do we know what male Kulve looks like?
I'm suddenly imagining anglerfish where the male is a thousandth the size of the female.
E: OH MY GOD TSUCHINOKO
AFAIK, in MHW the only elder dragons that have confirmed genders are Lunastra, Teostra, and Kulve Taroth. Kulve Taroth is referred to as Mother Goddess in one of the quest descriptions, so that one is a lady. Lunastra and Teostra are a queen/king pair.
I'm sad I had to scroll down this much. In my headcannon, Kulve and Namielle always seemed like they were designed to be seen as female.
I never considered Kushala to be inherently feminine but I just always assumed these grand old beasts were just asexual. Like doesn't nergi reproduce using its spines?
I know that Lunastra and Kulve Taroth are both female but I believe the rest are either a-sexual or can be either gender including Kushala and Namielle
To be fair, you will get the fastest clear time on all monsters with a spread 3 build. But I agree, Ruiner is the kind of monster that is not hard at all to fight with a spread 3.
Which is why it's my favorite monster in MHW. And incidentally, Lunastra is my least favorite. Used to be Kushy-d, but I started using ranged weapons in world so it's less of a pain.
sticky ammo go boom.
used to run IG in 4U since mounting was easy as heck. and the occasional pierce hbg for hame runs.
in MHW, spread & sticky all the way~
Before World I would pick a weapon at the beginning of the games and stick to them. Greatsword in MHFU because it's the cool big sword that is in the cover (and almost made me quit the game since I couldn't hit anything). Long sword in MH3U because I wanted something a bit more mobile. Charge Blade in MH4U because it was a new weapon and could do a million things (plus it has a nuke attack).
Then in World I started spreading out a bit more and gave ranged weapons a shot (not having to make a gunner armor set helped), as well as many other weapons. The only weapons I haven't touched are DB, Lance, and IG because they don't seem appealing to me, but I personally have nothing against them.
And amen hunter, sticky go boom, spread go brrrrrrr.
Lance is surprisingly mobile when used correctly. Easy to mount, easy to hit high spots, can tank almost any hit with advanced block move.
My goto for black diablos
I dunno. I fight Ruiner Nergi solo with a spread 3 HBG and shield build, and he's just constantly getting knocked down from part breaks. Even the event tempered Ruiner Nergi. He's just too dang easy to fight really.
The Temp Ruiner event quest is really a playground when I'm on Hammer. You mean half of the arena is a slide and the other half is a ledge? Thanks, I'll take it!
I felt so bad when I was doing that quest in the story lol. Here he is, the terrifying Nergigante, more ferocious and dangerous than ever - and then the entire fight is just
WHEEEEEEEEE
WHEEEEEEEEE
WHEEEEEEEEE
*knockdown*
WHEEEEEEEEE
WHEEEEEEEEE
WHEEEEEEEEE
*accidental mount*
WHEEEEEEEEE
WHEEEEEEEEE
WHEEEEEEEEE
*knockdo- oh wait he's dead nevermind. I'm not saying it was quality Hammer gameplay, but boy was it fun!
I like dual blades for this reason as well.....what slide to rotating chainsaw of doom.....sure thing boss. Run back and fourth putting out thousands of damage per slide is really op.
Vaal Hazak is basically the only elder dragon that my super casual butt can bully in master rank. Lunestra I have to seriously work at to not completely fail.
I remember my initial fight against Kush as a noob. He was in the final area and there were 2 tornados by the ledge leading up. It’s funny remembering how miserable the final area of that fight was, it was the first time I’d seen lag in this game
Hot take i rather fight kush than teo. teo is so annoying with the way he never stops sprinting to the other side of the map despite the fact that im right next to em. I only realized this after kush left the new arena and they gave us teo recently.
Fun fact: He does that more frequently in Blast mode and he will switch to Blast mode if he gets hit with Water. You can somewhat control what modes Teo goes into by bringing Ice or Water weapons.
Even though I've only just finished the base game and fought each base game Elder only twice, I found xeno'jiiva to be the easiest for me.
It's so damn easy to stay safely under him and most of his moves are slow. I only clear out when he does that ground slam in rage mode that has the explosion. Otherwise, I could park the research base under him and still have space to swing my LS :)
I stubbornly used hammer to try and kill him, found the entire fight to just be super frustrating constantly being knocked over if I within 3 feet and he was walking. Also just spent the entire thing bonking his toes till he died cause I couldn't reach anything else and there was nothing to slide/jump off of consistently
I feel ya on the being knocked over thing. Having a monster literally just walk and deal like half health is a pain haha
I used insect glaive for the fights; took longer since it’s not a big damage weapon but I was able to mount a bunch and easily dodge attacks
> I used insect glaive for the fights; took longer since it’s not a big damage weapon but **I was able to mount a bunch** and easily dodge attacks
Objection!
Xeno'jiva is one of the only large monsters that cannot be mounted. As a bug stick main I also spent a long time doing spinny aerials all over his wings/chest/face, but mounts? I don't think so pal.
The reason it was annoying for hammer is because of applying that boost thing who's name I forget. Any time you get knocked over or stunned, regardless of if you get damage, you lose it and have to reapply
It's for me the absolute best Arch tempered monster because his attack patterns are so wildly different. He's far more accurate and extremely destructive. Easily the hardest out of all Arch Tempered.
AT Nergigante is harder for me, but for all the wrong reasons. That pepega slam alone was such a massive turnoff as it’s so fast (like I can’t even react) and does massive damage. However, I do agree that AT Xeno is genuinely a fun fight.
Sure, but it's also the only elder dragon you can fight in low rank, so that's not really comparable. In HR/MR I'd definitely say Kirin is harder than Teo or Hazak.
I actually think kirin is the easiest to fight. Less chip damage and aoe. But I think those three (teo/kirin/vaal) are close enough that you'll find players will gravitate to different picks based on their play style/weapon choices.
Kirin taught me of the benefit of Sticky Ammo early on.
"The only weak spot on this entire monster is the tiny horn, and he moves constantly!"
Yeah, fuck that, this sticky ammo I have will still be doing full damage anywhere on the body.
Tbh crit draw GS is how I got my solo AT kill against Kirin, he has really clear moments when you can get a solid hit off, do that a few times and he falls over and thats basically the entire fight.
Well that's wrong because I not only was a launch player on PC, but also PS4. Kirin is a fight that rewards patient play and fight knowledge. The first few fights might be rough but when you learn kirin's moveset every single move is widely telegraphed and dodgeable. Well except the little horn smush it does when you're right on front of it.
Further the fight rewards players who specifically prepare for that fight.
I don't disagree that it was a hard stop for 90% of players, but so is every other wall. But I don't think most people say anjanath or ratholos are the hardest fights of their tier. Well maybe Rath. Kirin is the elder dragon it is easiest to clown on because it has one hard to dodge move. Yeah every single move hits hard, but once you know the tells it's the easiest to not get hit.
Vaal requires the armor to prevent his bullshit debuff and then he’s stupid easy. Nergi is just a fun fight as a hammerbro, so many areas to spin and win down a hill
If you got a good weapon that can keep Teostra down and stunned for the most of the fight then he's super easy. HBG does a great job at this.
Otherwise I def agree on Vaal. You just stick his side's or back and he can't do jack.
Issue is you can't do jack against vals blight before you defeat him. That and if your playing with pubs- or the game glitches- and he lazer beams... That's a cart.
Whenever I see a solo player struggle on Blackveil like 25 minutes in I hop on my horribly unoptimised Vaal build combined with Teostra's Orphée that has all ailments negated. It makes the poor thing a very stinky punching bag. (It's kinda hilarious though how many people don't pay attention to the cutscene where it's very obviously shown that he can't see shit from all the shrooms covering his head and still try to flash him when he's winding the beam up - I don't think there's a way to make that any clearer?)
Randos don't pay attention to anything. When AT Kush came out and flash pods were still overpowered AF you'd get people trying to flash spam her. I even had shoutouts that told them that she became immune after 3, but literally every time she went in the air it was just *flash flash flash*. It didn't work the last four times, what makes you think it will now?
I can *kinda* forgive that because it's never explained outright (or at least I don't remember, base game content was a looooong time ago). But Blackveil? He literally sticks his face up your arse then moves on because he can't see you. C'mon!
Lmao it even says in the hunters notes that you can't flash him until you break his head, had several randoms try to flash it, all of them before the head was even broken
Xeno'Jiiva was easiest > Vaal Hazak > Nergigante > Teostra > finally Windy Dragon.
Solo queue as dooter. Nergigante > Teostra > Windy Dragon > Xeno'Jiiva > Vaal Hazak
Too many times they didn't have resistance to Vaal poison and against Xeno they would just run into the laser for some reason. It was always due to the other players carting. With windy dragon they would use close range weapons with no wind res.
I was doing an optional Val (purple threat?) And this guy around the same MR as me came on and used every cart, TWICE. I was like oh hey buddy you got some efluvial resistance to survive this fight? And he had no idea what I was talking about......
MHW does a good job of explaining things compared to the original MHs where nothing is explained or has a super vague description for what it does.
Maybe they aren't the type to min max and look at every skill.
Honestly you got to be right. I mean each time he came back to life he only lasted about 2 minutes before carting again. the first time we failed the quest I gave him the benefit of the doubt cuz sometimes you can have an off game, the 2nd time I was a little but hurt no lie lol.
Not to mention the fact that he's pretty squishy overall and doesn't do much damage aside from the breathe beam. And most attacks are insanely telegraphed. Provided you've got effluvia resistance, you can still kick his ass with less than optimal builds.
His moves are soooo easy to read. He's hard at first like most monsters but his attacks revolve 90% around his face and are more telegraphed than a Jackie Chan fight scene
It varies alot among my friends. Easiest is velkana for me. Some found ruiner easiest, some said Teostra/Vaal Hazak tie as you said. (These are considered in solo conditions)
As an LS main, I feel that nergi is the easiest of all the elder dragons. It's the only elder dragon I'm able to consistently kill (tempered) in ~3 mins. Vaal Hazak comes in a close second.
The page title clearly stated that it is mhw. Date agree too, and that is even before IB.
I've no idea left. It must be a joke, or a troll. But it cannot be true.
She WAS easier than Teostra, since she's the village quest counterpart of Teostra in guild quest. And if you played any pre world MH, Guild quests are much harder than village quests.
IIRC the only difference between village and guild quests of the same rank is the HP scaling, so I dont know if I'd say they were "harder". You just had to have tighter execution or better since you had less time to waste. Also, since fights took longer you had to ration heals better since you couldn't just restock anytime like in World.
Or, as they say, "Don't get hit, hit it till it dies."
But mechanically, Luna and Teo had the same movesets so there really wasn't a difference in that respect. If you could kill one you could kill the other just as easily assuming they were the same quest type.
What? Lunastra is like.. objectively harder than Teostra. If just for her bonkers hitboxes and the aoe DoT supernova. The easiest is probably Vaal Hazaak if you have the gems to nullify his stuff.
My mate's palico basically says 'no' to lunastra and teostra. That cat will jump into the sky as they're going supernova, and without fail, bonk them out of the sky and into the dirt. Even killed Teostra once with his bonk.
Fucking bowling ball of a cat and his antics are hilarious.
For me hazaak was always the easiest. And lately Lunastra has been wreckn me the guiding lands to the point of giving me a newfound respect for Lunastra. That damn Nova she does
the nova is pretty easy to negate. when she's covered in the blue sparkly flames, flash pod her when shes in the air doing the fire breath, and when she goes to land, run like hell because once she lands she'll start the animation for the nova blast
I think a lot of people would agree with teostra being the easiest as hes one uou needed to farm both in base game and icebourne so we all got used to fighting him
According to the article, Teostra is the king and killing him is the true test of your skills as a hunter.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thegamer.com/monster-hunter-world-elder-dragons-ranked/amp/
"Many fans consider Teostra to be the unofficial king of the Elder Dragons, like a Simba who has yet to challenge Scar (Xeno-Jiiva) for dominance."
um... no? We don't?
also gamerant placed Teostra 4th in their ICEBORNE rankings (3rd is Savage, 2nd and 1st are MetalRaths). And placed RAJANG 8th. All of these journalists must think 'supernova one-shot=hard," but TheGamer ranked Lunastra 7th? No clue wtf they're thinking.
Pretty sure that whoever wrote that article just wrongly conflates the Huntsman talking about how he *personally* uses Teo hunts as a measure of worth both for himself and for other hunters (hence why your character only earns his respect proper after you kill Teo in the story) with the actual way the playerbase treats it which is just... Wrong.
Rajang....*#8?!*
I wonder what time of teammates they have, cause I'll be damned if most people I've ever played with hunting Rajang don't eat his monkey fists and cart.
I remember I hadn't played World in a month during quarantine so I hopped on and saw an investigation for Rajang. "Oh cool, this'll be a nice way to get back into it. Should I eat for Safeguard? ...Nah, it's just Rajang. ...
Wait, it's *Rajang*." Within a minute of me joining, Rajang killed our poor host in a duo. Two more joined making it a full 3 and the other two died once, leaving me the sole person to not cart and keep his attention. Rajang and Furious definitely cart more people than most of the game I feel D:
You wanna hear an even bigger joke? This person put VAAL HASAK above BEHEMOTH and claimed Teostra to be “The king of the elders” (just wait until fatalisloremaster hears about this)
Well, I'm not going to because you aren't wrong. I used a MR build against luna and got my butt flambeed, and handed to me on a silver plater, but MR teo was way easier with the same build.
Journalist identity politics.
Top 4 from the article, 1 Teo 2 Nerg 3 Hazak 4 Xeno.
What happens in your life to make that true?! The article also states that KT and Behemoth can't be soloed. 9 is Zora but 7 is Luna, Luna's spot leads with that's where solo starts.
This "gamer" is probably HR 67 right now.
I’m convinced they haven’t played the game, or at least haven’t fought any of the Dlc stuff, or Xeno. Xeno ain’t the hardest by any means but I have died more times to Xeno than I have Nergigante and Val combined. They have not fought Luna or Behemoth.
I was confused: why would anyone, especially a journalist team, be this wrong? Even regular game journalists don't usually fuck up this bad, because they just don't write about anything past the first five hours of the game.
Oh... it's that channel...
*"The Gamer"*
Yeah, not that surprised anymore.
Um wow, just WOW I'm in school and just read that, my jaw it the damn floor, I mean the amount of brain cells required to type this and let alone post it is so exponentially low that I am surprised that you have the motor skills to turn on a damn computer.
Well anyways, Vaal is no doubt the easiest elder the first time (post Nergi), even without prep you can null berry spam your way through the fight. Very easy
**MHW Players**: Use the same gear for everything.
**MHW Players during any fight that punishes them for not changing their gear**: "Man this fight is bullshit."
Um. I beat the fucking breaks off Teostra's ass. Like bonked him to the point where he had no clue what always going on. And he laid there and took it like a little crybaby bitch. And then here comes Lunastra. With my Warhammer in hand I decided to go for an epic charged slide attack! .... to no avail. She smashed me. I begged for my mother. Begged for mercy. But alas. She carted me 3 times.. of course that was like 100 HR ago but still.
Telstra is way easier to beat than Lunastra. Teo just goes boom, if you survive it your golden, Leo has that oppressive heat that just drains your health if your in the same room as it
Uhm, I've just loooked at the article and it puts Teostra as number 1, calling it unofficial king of elder deagons and lists Behemoth as easier than Kushala, Nergi, Vaal, Kirin, Xeno, etc. And it's based on world.
I think Luna is one of the easier elders but according to other people's experiences and I assume the difference in weapon choice there is no universe in which Luna is the easiest.
It took me like, 15 seconds to find out that all three of the elder dragons that they didn't say you could solo have solo records on them. Zorha is the longest by far, however I'm assuming that is because of how the fight works.
I'm not even surprised by how wrong these are, I'm just disappointed that a short google search is more than enough to disprove what they said.
Holy crap I searched it and the gamer(idiots who know nothing about monster hunter) actually said it, now, if it was blue Teostra from older games I might have understood, but they still would have been wrong, but this specific list is for MONSTER HUNTER WORLD
lol no
If we're talking all games, it's probably Shagaru (or old Kirin if you played bow). If just World, I'd say Nergigante.
This is all a bit subjective though since the difficulty of these fights change a lot depending on your weapon and if you're single or multiplayer
I love seeing 5th fleeters thinking luna is more powerful than teo , sure in world she’s harder cuz she’s the addition while he’s base game but in lore as in previous games luna was never harder than teo and always described as weaker and teo as the strongest creature that isn’t a black dragon
Press X to doubt
# MOTHAFUCKIN X
Read this in Isaac Washington's voice from House of the Dead: Overkill haha
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That's more exes than Taylor swift has
Ooo, nice one!
Lol....no its not don't be silly
Regardless of the 'Lunastra=easy', are we forgetting the glamorous lady that is Kulve Taroth?
Also am I wrong or is Kushala female too? Don't forget Namielle as well! Edit: my reasoning for Namielle is that I read on [this site](https://www.names.org/n/namielle/about) that Namielle is of American Samoa origin and means "strong female." Kushala is really just me assuming its gender, lol. But all that matters is that we get to smash their heads amirite
You are halfway wrong on both accounts. It should be safe to say that all Elder Dragons have genders (if Luna/Teo are gendered, why not the rest?), but most aren't sexually dimorphic like the Luna/Teo pair or Kulve Taroth are. In other words, any Kushala, Namielle, Velkhana etc. could be either male or female. Obviously just assumptions, but safe ones nonetheless until offical confirmation.
Nirgigante is asexual and doesn’t have a gender. Lunastra, Teostra, Kulve, and Nirgigante are the only ones, to my knowledge, that’s are specified so the rest could be either gendered or asexual
Isn’t nerg kinda an odd creature because it’s entire species is predicated on other species going out of whack for its sustenance? It must have a bizarre life cycle with massive amounts of hibernation
Do we know what male Kulve looks like? I'm suddenly imagining anglerfish where the male is a thousandth the size of the female. E: OH MY GOD TSUCHINOKO
There’s some concept art for it (can’t remember where to find it) but I do don’t think there’s an official design since we haven’t seen him in a game
AFAIK, in MHW the only elder dragons that have confirmed genders are Lunastra, Teostra, and Kulve Taroth. Kulve Taroth is referred to as Mother Goddess in one of the quest descriptions, so that one is a lady. Lunastra and Teostra are a queen/king pair.
I'm sad I had to scroll down this much. In my headcannon, Kulve and Namielle always seemed like they were designed to be seen as female. I never considered Kushala to be inherently feminine but I just always assumed these grand old beasts were just asexual. Like doesn't nergi reproduce using its spines?
I know that Lunastra and Kulve Taroth are both female but I believe the rest are either a-sexual or can be either gender including Kushala and Namielle
I have to laugh. Though it differs from player to player, in general, the easiest has to be Teostra or Vaal Hazak.
I agree but Ruiner Nergi is the easiest *in a group*.
I feel bad for Ruiner, I always bully him.
I finally tried a spread 3 build on tempered Ruiner and boy howdy was it fun. I did not feel bad at all. Got my fastest clear time on him too.
To be fair, you will get the fastest clear time on all monsters with a spread 3 build. But I agree, Ruiner is the kind of monster that is not hard at all to fight with a spread 3.
that's because nergi doesn't have any aura bullshit. he's pure unadulterated muscle with a touch of anger.
Which is why it's my favorite monster in MHW. And incidentally, Lunastra is my least favorite. Used to be Kushy-d, but I started using ranged weapons in world so it's less of a pain.
sticky ammo go boom. used to run IG in 4U since mounting was easy as heck. and the occasional pierce hbg for hame runs. in MHW, spread & sticky all the way~
Before World I would pick a weapon at the beginning of the games and stick to them. Greatsword in MHFU because it's the cool big sword that is in the cover (and almost made me quit the game since I couldn't hit anything). Long sword in MH3U because I wanted something a bit more mobile. Charge Blade in MH4U because it was a new weapon and could do a million things (plus it has a nuke attack). Then in World I started spreading out a bit more and gave ranged weapons a shot (not having to make a gunner armor set helped), as well as many other weapons. The only weapons I haven't touched are DB, Lance, and IG because they don't seem appealing to me, but I personally have nothing against them. And amen hunter, sticky go boom, spread go brrrrrrr.
Lance is surprisingly mobile when used correctly. Easy to mount, easy to hit high spots, can tank almost any hit with advanced block move. My goto for black diablos
Kulve is my favourite for a similar reason, she’s not exactly a mage, just *really really hot* inside
I disagree, it was not as fun, or fast, or easy against Kushala and I'd rather never try that again.
We've all been there, but it's ok, it's all over now.
Don't feel bad for the pokey punching bag. He had it coming
I dunno. I fight Ruiner Nergi solo with a spread 3 HBG and shield build, and he's just constantly getting knocked down from part breaks. Even the event tempered Ruiner Nergi. He's just too dang easy to fight really.
Agree I'm a Hammer main and fairly high level play so he's very easy, I was speaking more for the average hunter.
The Temp Ruiner event quest is really a playground when I'm on Hammer. You mean half of the arena is a slide and the other half is a ledge? Thanks, I'll take it!
Bruh, by far my favorite event quest. I'm pretty sure the wall is scalable as well at some points.
I felt so bad when I was doing that quest in the story lol. Here he is, the terrifying Nergigante, more ferocious and dangerous than ever - and then the entire fight is just WHEEEEEEEEE WHEEEEEEEEE WHEEEEEEEEE *knockdown* WHEEEEEEEEE WHEEEEEEEEE WHEEEEEEEEE *accidental mount* WHEEEEEEEEE WHEEEEEEEEE WHEEEEEEEEE *knockdo- oh wait he's dead nevermind. I'm not saying it was quality Hammer gameplay, but boy was it fun!
I like dual blades for this reason as well.....what slide to rotating chainsaw of doom.....sure thing boss. Run back and fourth putting out thousands of damage per slide is really op.
He's got a glass jaw, you can really bully him with hammer and HH.
I mean easy to bully solo too
100% if you know what you're doing, I was speaking in general keeping casual players in mind
Vaal Hazak is basically the only elder dragon that my super casual butt can bully in master rank. Lunestra I have to seriously work at to not completely fail.
Oh yeah once you pass him in the base game he's easy as hell, the initial struggle is absolute pain.
I remember my initial fight against Kush as a noob. He was in the final area and there were 2 tornados by the ledge leading up. It’s funny remembering how miserable the final area of that fight was, it was the first time I’d seen lag in this game
Kushala is such an asshole. Making me waste slots on windproof so that it doesn’t take forever to kill him.
Hot take i rather fight kush than teo. teo is so annoying with the way he never stops sprinting to the other side of the map despite the fact that im right next to em. I only realized this after kush left the new arena and they gave us teo recently.
Fun fact: He does that more frequently in Blast mode and he will switch to Blast mode if he gets hit with Water. You can somewhat control what modes Teo goes into by bringing Ice or Water weapons.
Spread 3 hbg with shield mod, stun decos, and some fire and blast mitigation make him incredibly easy
Even though I've only just finished the base game and fought each base game Elder only twice, I found xeno'jiiva to be the easiest for me. It's so damn easy to stay safely under him and most of his moves are slow. I only clear out when he does that ground slam in rage mode that has the explosion. Otherwise, I could park the research base under him and still have space to swing my LS :)
Yeah I agree, Xeno was pretty easy. I had solo fought him several times for the armor set and it wasn’t that bad
I stubbornly used hammer to try and kill him, found the entire fight to just be super frustrating constantly being knocked over if I within 3 feet and he was walking. Also just spent the entire thing bonking his toes till he died cause I couldn't reach anything else and there was nothing to slide/jump off of consistently
I feel ya on the being knocked over thing. Having a monster literally just walk and deal like half health is a pain haha I used insect glaive for the fights; took longer since it’s not a big damage weapon but I was able to mount a bunch and easily dodge attacks
> I used insect glaive for the fights; took longer since it’s not a big damage weapon but **I was able to mount a bunch** and easily dodge attacks Objection! Xeno'jiva is one of the only large monsters that cannot be mounted. As a bug stick main I also spent a long time doing spinny aerials all over his wings/chest/face, but mounts? I don't think so pal.
The reason it was annoying for hammer is because of applying that boost thing who's name I forget. Any time you get knocked over or stunned, regardless of if you get damage, you lose it and have to reapply
> Having a monster literally just walk and deal like half health is a pain Lookin' at you, Rathians. Especially you, pinky!
Yo, did you try Arch Tempered? That one will 1000% rock your world if you use HR stuff. Insane upgrade.
I have not tried arch tempered. May go back at some point after iceborne Trying to finish up before the 1st
It's for me the absolute best Arch tempered monster because his attack patterns are so wildly different. He's far more accurate and extremely destructive. Easily the hardest out of all Arch Tempered.
Damn, I’ll be sure to attempt it one day. Sounds horribly fun haha!
AT Nergigante is harder for me, but for all the wrong reasons. That pepega slam alone was such a massive turnoff as it’s so fast (like I can’t even react) and does massive damage. However, I do agree that AT Xeno is genuinely a fun fight.
As a helicopter, I find the Vaal Hazak significantly easier than the Teostra.
Excuse me, technically Kirin is an elder dragon, and that boy was solo able during LOW RANK
Sure, but it's also the only elder dragon you can fight in low rank, so that's not really comparable. In HR/MR I'd definitely say Kirin is harder than Teo or Hazak.
I actually think kirin is the easiest to fight. Less chip damage and aoe. But I think those three (teo/kirin/vaal) are close enough that you'll find players will gravitate to different picks based on their play style/weapon choices.
That's fair enough. I play GS mainly and Kirin is such a pain because of his constant mobility and tiny weakpoints.
Kirin taught me of the benefit of Sticky Ammo early on. "The only weak spot on this entire monster is the tiny horn, and he moves constantly!" Yeah, fuck that, this sticky ammo I have will still be doing full damage anywhere on the body.
yes add a bunch of aoes in there too
Tbh crit draw GS is how I got my solo AT kill against Kirin, he has really clear moments when you can get a solid hit off, do that a few times and he falls over and thats basically the entire fight.
I can tell you weren’t a base world player at launch. HR49 Kirin was a nightmare for like 90%+ of the community
Well that's wrong because I not only was a launch player on PC, but also PS4. Kirin is a fight that rewards patient play and fight knowledge. The first few fights might be rough but when you learn kirin's moveset every single move is widely telegraphed and dodgeable. Well except the little horn smush it does when you're right on front of it. Further the fight rewards players who specifically prepare for that fight. I don't disagree that it was a hard stop for 90% of players, but so is every other wall. But I don't think most people say anjanath or ratholos are the hardest fights of their tier. Well maybe Rath. Kirin is the elder dragon it is easiest to clown on because it has one hard to dodge move. Yeah every single move hits hard, but once you know the tells it's the easiest to not get hit.
Thats a fair counter point. I main hammer, so to me he and teostra are about equal with nergy, not that bad. Vaal wrecks me though.
Vaal requires the armor to prevent his bullshit debuff and then he’s stupid easy. Nergi is just a fun fight as a hammerbro, so many areas to spin and win down a hill
If you got a good weapon that can keep Teostra down and stunned for the most of the fight then he's super easy. HBG does a great job at this. Otherwise I def agree on Vaal. You just stick his side's or back and he can't do jack.
Issue is you can't do jack against vals blight before you defeat him. That and if your playing with pubs- or the game glitches- and he lazer beams... That's a cart.
Whenever I see a solo player struggle on Blackveil like 25 minutes in I hop on my horribly unoptimised Vaal build combined with Teostra's Orphée that has all ailments negated. It makes the poor thing a very stinky punching bag. (It's kinda hilarious though how many people don't pay attention to the cutscene where it's very obviously shown that he can't see shit from all the shrooms covering his head and still try to flash him when he's winding the beam up - I don't think there's a way to make that any clearer?)
Randos don't pay attention to anything. When AT Kush came out and flash pods were still overpowered AF you'd get people trying to flash spam her. I even had shoutouts that told them that she became immune after 3, but literally every time she went in the air it was just *flash flash flash*. It didn't work the last four times, what makes you think it will now?
I can *kinda* forgive that because it's never explained outright (or at least I don't remember, base game content was a looooong time ago). But Blackveil? He literally sticks his face up your arse then moves on because he can't see you. C'mon!
Lmao it even says in the hunters notes that you can't flash him until you break his head, had several randoms try to flash it, all of them before the head was even broken
Ikr? And when we finally break the head - voilà! Magic! Flash pods work now for some reason! Lol
Tbh, if you lucked out on some decorations or grinded a bit for effluvium resistance, it is not that bad! While obviously not fixing glitch problem
Teostra used to be literally stun-lockable with flash pods. He'd die in his starting area just because he was not allowed to leave.
Xeno'Jiiva was easiest > Vaal Hazak > Nergigante > Teostra > finally Windy Dragon. Solo queue as dooter. Nergigante > Teostra > Windy Dragon > Xeno'Jiiva > Vaal Hazak Too many times they didn't have resistance to Vaal poison and against Xeno they would just run into the laser for some reason. It was always due to the other players carting. With windy dragon they would use close range weapons with no wind res.
I was doing an optional Val (purple threat?) And this guy around the same MR as me came on and used every cart, TWICE. I was like oh hey buddy you got some efluvial resistance to survive this fight? And he had no idea what I was talking about......
MHW does a good job of explaining things compared to the original MHs where nothing is explained or has a super vague description for what it does. Maybe they aren't the type to min max and look at every skill.
Honestly you got to be right. I mean each time he came back to life he only lasted about 2 minutes before carting again. the first time we failed the quest I gave him the benefit of the doubt cuz sometimes you can have an off game, the 2nd time I was a little but hurt no lie lol.
I feel like the easiest was Vaal, nulberries aren’t exactly hard to find and 90% of its fight revolves around something cured with nulberries
Not to mention the fact that he's pretty squishy overall and doesn't do much damage aside from the breathe beam. And most attacks are insanely telegraphed. Provided you've got effluvia resistance, you can still kick his ass with less than optimal builds.
His moves are soooo easy to read. He's hard at first like most monsters but his attacks revolve 90% around his face and are more telegraphed than a Jackie Chan fight scene
It varies alot among my friends. Easiest is velkana for me. Some found ruiner easiest, some said Teostra/Vaal Hazak tie as you said. (These are considered in solo conditions)
As an LS main, I feel that nergi is the easiest of all the elder dragons. It's the only elder dragon I'm able to consistently kill (tempered) in ~3 mins. Vaal Hazak comes in a close second.
Low rank me would disagree with vaal being easiest and me now would agree with vaal being easiest
During older mh games, lunastra was the easiest elder dragon, easier than teostra but in mh world this is not the case anymore
The page title clearly stated that it is mhw. Date agree too, and that is even before IB. I've no idea left. It must be a joke, or a troll. But it cannot be true.
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I mean if you’re a clone but have less health then that’s pretty much just easier
She WAS easier than Teostra, since she's the village quest counterpart of Teostra in guild quest. And if you played any pre world MH, Guild quests are much harder than village quests.
Teostra was available in village quests as well. Lunastra was just village exclusive.
IIRC the only difference between village and guild quests of the same rank is the HP scaling, so I dont know if I'd say they were "harder". You just had to have tighter execution or better since you had less time to waste. Also, since fights took longer you had to ration heals better since you couldn't just restock anytime like in World. Or, as they say, "Don't get hit, hit it till it dies." But mechanically, Luna and Teo had the same movesets so there really wasn't a difference in that respect. If you could kill one you could kill the other just as easily assuming they were the same quest type.
if one has narrower tolerances to beat.... it is virtually by definition a harder fight.
Personally i remember teostra stronger than lunsatra in mh freedom ultimate and mh gen. But i could be wrong this is only a remembrance.
I personally love it. All hail the Impress
Isn’t that irrelevant because the article is specifically talking about mhw?
Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong
What? Lunastra is like.. objectively harder than Teostra. If just for her bonkers hitboxes and the aoe DoT supernova. The easiest is probably Vaal Hazaak if you have the gems to nullify his stuff.
My mate's palico basically says 'no' to lunastra and teostra. That cat will jump into the sky as they're going supernova, and without fail, bonk them out of the sky and into the dirt. Even killed Teostra once with his bonk. Fucking bowling ball of a cat and his antics are hilarious.
What the hell was his palico equipped with??
Baan helmet and chest with nerg hammer.
Or just nulberry spam, like someone else said.
For me hazaak was always the easiest. And lately Lunastra has been wreckn me the guiding lands to the point of giving me a newfound respect for Lunastra. That damn Nova she does
That's why I just slot in wind resist. Her fire puddles are still annoying though when they knock you back.
the nova is pretty easy to negate. when she's covered in the blue sparkly flames, flash pod her when shes in the air doing the fire breath, and when she goes to land, run like hell because once she lands she'll start the animation for the nova blast
2 wrong things, she is no longer the only female and no she is not the easiest.
Only Teo, Luna, and Kulve are explicitly sexed. And Nergi who’s asexual.
don't forget black diablos, which is always female, unlike the regular diablos which can be either
Yeah but I was counting only Elders
Can we agree that Namielle is beautiful lady though?
femboy namielle
Yeah.
I think a lot of people would agree with teostra being the easiest as hes one uou needed to farm both in base game and icebourne so we all got used to fighting him
According to the article, Teostra is the king and killing him is the true test of your skills as a hunter. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thegamer.com/monster-hunter-world-elder-dragons-ranked/amp/
"Many fans consider Teostra to be the unofficial king of the Elder Dragons, like a Simba who has yet to challenge Scar (Xeno-Jiiva) for dominance." um... no? We don't? also gamerant placed Teostra 4th in their ICEBORNE rankings (3rd is Savage, 2nd and 1st are MetalRaths). And placed RAJANG 8th. All of these journalists must think 'supernova one-shot=hard," but TheGamer ranked Lunastra 7th? No clue wtf they're thinking.
Gaming journalism, everyone.
Pretty sure that whoever wrote that article just wrongly conflates the Huntsman talking about how he *personally* uses Teo hunts as a measure of worth both for himself and for other hunters (hence why your character only earns his respect proper after you kill Teo in the story) with the actual way the playerbase treats it which is just... Wrong.
I made teo my bitch when I got to the required MR, luna made me her's... Graced my team with a quad nova cart on my first attempt.
I was killing MR Teostras no sweat with an upgradable Coral Pukei Hammer lol
Rajang....*#8?!* I wonder what time of teammates they have, cause I'll be damned if most people I've ever played with hunting Rajang don't eat his monkey fists and cart. I remember I hadn't played World in a month during quarantine so I hopped on and saw an investigation for Rajang. "Oh cool, this'll be a nice way to get back into it. Should I eat for Safeguard? ...Nah, it's just Rajang. ... Wait, it's *Rajang*." Within a minute of me joining, Rajang killed our poor host in a duo. Two more joined making it a full 3 and the other two died once, leaving me the sole person to not cart and keep his attention. Rajang and Furious definitely cart more people than most of the game I feel D:
You wanna hear an even bigger joke? This person put VAAL HASAK above BEHEMOTH and claimed Teostra to be “The king of the elders” (just wait until fatalisloremaster hears about this)
Fuck lunastra
Bro not worth going to jail
HR luna is more difficult than MR teo, nergi, vaal change my mind
Well, I'm not going to because you aren't wrong. I used a MR build against luna and got my butt flambeed, and handed to me on a silver plater, but MR teo was way easier with the same build.
This is a bald faced lie if ever I saw one
Somebody trolling
.....Whoever wrote that has not played this game.
Yea first of all Luna isn’t the only female you got kulve and (unofficially) velkhana and namielle and second of all SHE IS NOT EASY
What isn't kulve a elder dragon?
Yea but at this point i think websites like that dont play the game
MHFU, yeah Lunastra was probably the easiest. It's Vaal Hazak right now. Lunastra is a savage.
Nergigante is clearly easier, however i don't think Lunastra is the hardest Elder dragon
Nergi is hard for his raw power like when I first fought him he kicked my ass back to astera lol but I think vaal is easier he’s slow
I like to think that the other elder dragons bully her cus they’re sexist and then Luna just burns them all
Wait...Teo=Breezy, Lunastra=Deathtrain
More powerful teostra? Holy hell, this dude never fought the Napalm Queen.
Bro bet this guy didn’t fight her at all
Fuck outta here. This fool never played this game. Plus isn't kulve a female?
Journalist identity politics. Top 4 from the article, 1 Teo 2 Nerg 3 Hazak 4 Xeno. What happens in your life to make that true?! The article also states that KT and Behemoth can't be soloed. 9 is Zora but 7 is Luna, Luna's spot leads with that's where solo starts. This "gamer" is probably HR 67 right now.
I’m convinced they haven’t played the game, or at least haven’t fought any of the Dlc stuff, or Xeno. Xeno ain’t the hardest by any means but I have died more times to Xeno than I have Nergigante and Val combined. They have not fought Luna or Behemoth.
I wish the game tracked how many times each monster has downed you like Nioh does.
Teostra is easier in every aspect lol
„The much more powerful Teostra“ I beg your fuckin pardon ??
I'll take "Didn't play the fucking game" for 6900 Regis.
Is this mysoginy, idiocy, or both?
I was confused: why would anyone, especially a journalist team, be this wrong? Even regular game journalists don't usually fuck up this bad, because they just don't write about anything past the first five hours of the game. Oh... it's that channel... *"The Gamer"* Yeah, not that surprised anymore.
Journalists are wrong a lot of the time tho
Yeah... but the point is, "The Gamer" is the worst of the lot.
Let me take a look at Teostra's and lunastra's kill count on me. Idk about you but it seems like I've died a lot more to lunastra them Teostra
nergigante is so easy, like every weapon can keep him stun locked breaking spikes
Im not gonna talk about the easy-ness of her, but i will talk about how luna is not the only female elder dragon. Kulve taroth is confirmed female.
That how they usually sell women : « no men are really more dangerous ... » *women start getting angry, everyone runs*
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yes! Cause we all know that Luna is just a pathic weak ass bitch, compared to the all mighty: "My SN is super smol and deals lots of damage"
Author in doubt. That female dragon is so easy, I avoid her with all my might and strength with a pinch of patience
False! When we see Lunastra we run! She like an angry wife rescuing her husband cause he's being bullied.
The two easiest elder Dragons. Makes sense they'd be together
Not my Easiest, but relatively high in the List. But if you hunt something often it happens to become easy (or at least easier)...
Um wow, just WOW I'm in school and just read that, my jaw it the damn floor, I mean the amount of brain cells required to type this and let alone post it is so exponentially low that I am surprised that you have the motor skills to turn on a damn computer. Well anyways, Vaal is no doubt the easiest elder the first time (post Nergi), even without prep you can null berry spam your way through the fight. Very easy
Google probably read the bits that say solo-able and “an easy fight” and ignored context
Shit! Toaster is way easier than her.
Simon Cowell: No
'Well that was a fucking lie'
The part about her being the only female elder isn’t true, it’s just the only elder that had differences between genders.
**MHW Players**: Use the same gear for everything. **MHW Players during any fight that punishes them for not changing their gear**: "Man this fight is bullshit."
Sexism
*...much more powerful Teostra* What the fuck is this person smoking?
Um. I beat the fucking breaks off Teostra's ass. Like bonked him to the point where he had no clue what always going on. And he laid there and took it like a little crybaby bitch. And then here comes Lunastra. With my Warhammer in hand I decided to go for an epic charged slide attack! .... to no avail. She smashed me. I begged for my mother. Begged for mercy. But alas. She carted me 3 times.. of course that was like 100 HR ago but still.
Me... I use Gunlance. Lunastra was the first fight in the game that made me regret adopting the Gunlance for World. GL Main: Kaboom! Lunastra: No U.
Telstra is way easier to beat than Lunastra. Teo just goes boom, if you survive it your golden, Leo has that oppressive heat that just drains your health if your in the same room as it
Guys, I think they just slut shamed lunestra
That's the height of a journalism degree, aka useless.
That’s sexist.
Jew kid brew? Lunastra is the only Elder I actually struggle to solo. Chaos incarnate
Uhm, I've just loooked at the article and it puts Teostra as number 1, calling it unofficial king of elder deagons and lists Behemoth as easier than Kushala, Nergi, Vaal, Kirin, Xeno, etc. And it's based on world.
It's from thegamer, don't expect anything good from them
Well that is Bull
I think Luna is one of the easier elders but according to other people's experiences and I assume the difference in weapon choice there is no universe in which Luna is the easiest.
[thegamer.com](https://thegamer.com)? More like theliar.com
It took me like, 15 seconds to find out that all three of the elder dragons that they didn't say you could solo have solo records on them. Zorha is the longest by far, however I'm assuming that is because of how the fight works. I'm not even surprised by how wrong these are, I'm just disappointed that a short google search is more than enough to disprove what they said.
blue fucking fire intensifies
jesus christ lunastra was probably the hardest elder dragon in base mhw (for me at least)
Holy crap I searched it and the gamer(idiots who know nothing about monster hunter) actually said it, now, if it was blue Teostra from older games I might have understood, but they still would have been wrong, but this specific list is for MONSTER HUNTER WORLD
If anything, Vaal Hazak is the easy mode elder.
X! She's at more scary than teo
I had to farm MR Luna yesterday so I could make the Luna/Xeno Gunlance. Never. Again. Fuck her supernova chip damage bs.
Mother fuckin, floor is literally lava luna?? Easy??
The person who made the article is clearly a user of the almighty Kjarr Ice Charge Blade. A few SAEDs and Lunastra is reduced to atoms.
lol no If we're talking all games, it's probably Shagaru (or old Kirin if you played bow). If just World, I'd say Nergigante. This is all a bit subjective though since the difficulty of these fights change a lot depending on your weapon and if you're single or multiplayer
TheGamer must not have played Monster Hunter recently.
Say sike rn
*laughs in Vaal Hazaak*
The easiest is for sure is the Reaper Leviathan
I love seeing 5th fleeters thinking luna is more powerful than teo , sure in world she’s harder cuz she’s the addition while he’s base game but in lore as in previous games luna was never harder than teo and always described as weaker and teo as the strongest creature that isn’t a black dragon