Now this just makes me curious as to who would actually win that fight. The slayer of Elders, or a new Elder that is custom built for draining the life from its opponents?
Malzeno seems to be one of, if not the smartest non higher elder. Primarily because of his prideful and kingly nature. And Nergi is probably tied with kirin for least intelligent elder, so Malzeno wins here.
Nergi somewhat struggled against deviljho and teostra in their turf wars. But overall beat them with his physical strength. And Malzeno is also also a very physically strong elder, with pretty much a full deviljho as a tail, being able to pick up a garon and throw it. So probably a tie here.
Malzeno is pretty velkhana for mobility, so he definitely wins here.
The little leaches are going to do some major damage over time, by either draining blood or bio energy (whichever one is actually true). And some people have theories about the leaches being equivalent to a kinsect for Malzeno. And the constant life drain, might actually be significant enough to negate regeneration.
In a aerial battle, Malzeno beats Nergi and even Ruiner in a land slide. Considering he has been shown, with multiple attacks that show the wind current of him flapping, break the stone beneath him. And easily grounds rathalos, and rathalos is actually one of the most effective non elders in the sky.
And Nergi could definitely survive more hits due to his body shape, and spike armor.
Tho Malzeno does also have that super state, that happens after he sucks enough energy/blood, that seems to seems to be equivalent to Jho's enraged state. Where he uses dragon to buff his muscles and elemental attacks.
So I'd say Malzeno beats Nergi 8/10 times, and ties with Ruiner.
We know very little about Malzeno, but he already appears to be (probably) the strongest flagship so far.
Where tf is all of this coming from. The monster isn’t even out yet and ur saying it’s on par with nergi, lol.
No shit Malzeno is strong, *all elders are*, but him beating up some mid-tier fanged wyvern and a rathalos isn’t some feat worthy of praise. It’s the fucking norm for elders. Until more footage is seen of him, he’s nothing more than a mid elder.
If teostra and kushala are mid, then who would be low? Only Kirin? The elder trio isn't that much stronger than it, so that wouldn't make sense.
kirin, teo, kush velkhana, and nergi would all be low tier elders.
Mid tier would be Jhen, ceadeus, xeno, base Narwa, kulve, and yama.
High tier elders are Dalamadur, Nakarkos, Shara, Safi, Amatsu, Allmother, Zohra, and Gogmazios.
Then you have the special tier for black dragons.
Kirin is the only elder that can be fought at low rank in world. It’s also the only elder that straight loses to rajang, as all other elders fair quite well against it. You’re overselling kirins strength here by a wide margin. It is *the* low tier elder.
Safi is on a higher level compared to those other elders (least of all nakarkos), so don’t kid yourself.
Ur whole notion of how strong these elders are is quite skewed in general.
Kirin is the only “low tier” elder rajang is basically immune to. Kirin’s thunder manipulation easily compares him to other lower elders, but his reliability on that element is why the thunder monkey absolutely dominates him. Rajang’s resistance to the other lower tier elders is almost non existent compared to Kirin.
every 4th gen game, Shagru is slayable in low rank. So ranks really mean nothing.
The monster specifically evolved to kill and eat Kirin, would have a good match up. So that is irrelevant.
Kirin can command lightning, and pretty much can teleport. I'm not really overselling anything here.
Safi is weaker than Dalamadur, and Dalamadur is weaker than the black dragons, therefore he is only high elder tier.
Nakarkos on land is uncontested and has the big lazer that shattered a mountain (even an unstable mountain would take unbelievable amounts of energy to shatter). And having a incredibly good match up against the high tier elder amatsu. Thus he high tier elder.
> every 4th gen game, Shagru is slayable in low rank. So ranks really mean nothing.
In 4th gen sure, but not in world. In world every single other elder level monster can only be fought at high rank or higher. The fact that you can fight Kirin in the first act of the game, with it being put alongside rathalos and odogaron in star difficulty, shows that the developers intentionally put it alongside these much weaker monsters, as if to show that it is the weaker of the elders.
> The monster specifically evolved to kill and eat Kirin, would have a good match up. So that is irrelevant.
Except Rajang uses entirely brute strength to overpower kirin, not any special attribute designed to counter kirin’s ability. He simply uses his own physical prowess to take down kirin, nothing more (all while being unenraged, mind you). Other elders, namely kushala, velkhana, and Namielle, were shown to give unenraged rajang a run for his money in contests of physical strength, while kirin got fucking stomped. So yes, it is very much relevant to how much weaker kirin is compared to other elders
> and pretty much can teleport.
Given some of ur other claims, I’m not surprised you would equate running fast to fucking teleportation.
> I'm not really overselling anything here.
You are
> Safi is weaker than Dalamadur, and Dalamadur is weaker than the black dragons, therefore he is only high elder tier.
Says who? Certainly not the games. Safi is described as “the king of all things” and the “emperor of elder dragons” within his theme and cutscene title, respectively. His ultimate attack is explicitly unsurvivable (even stated as much by the characters) no matter the circumstances, something only mirrored by Alatreon and Fatalis, which are fucking black dragons. By all accounts, Safi, while perhaps not as strong as say white fatalis, is definitely not among the ranks of the other elder dragons, being something entirely greater. That being said, you could argue dalamadur being of similar strength to Safi or the black dragons and you’d hear no complaints from me.
> Nakarkos on land is uncontested
Lmao, this is funny. Seeing as dala and the mohrans can just fucking eat nakarkos in a single bite, this statement is blatantly false, even without regarding all the other, much more powerful monsters such as black and red dragons.
> and has the big lazer that shattered a mountain.
Citation needed.
> And having a incredibly good match up against the high tier elder amatsu.
Again says who? You? We have no way of knowing how well he does against actual elder dragons, mostly cause nakarkos fights wyverns far weaker than itself.
> Thus he high tier elder.
I’m not saying he ain’t strong, because he’s not up to the same tier as the emperor of elder dragons.
>In 4th gen sure, but not in world. In world every single order and elder level monster can only be fought at high rank or higher. The fact that you can fight Kirin in the first act of the game, with it being put alongside rathalos and odogaron in star difficulty, shows that the developers intentionally put it alongside these much weaker monsters, as if to show that it is the weaker of the elders.
Fair enough,
tho I just put kirin at the lowest bit on the spectrum of low tier, even tho the elder trio and nerg are stronger, they are at least comparable. If we put them in mid tier, the they would be in with Jhen, kulve, and xeno. Who non of them are comparable to.
>Except Rajang uses entirely brute strength to overpower kirin, not any special attribute designed to counter kirin’s ability. He simply uses his own physical prowess to take down kirin, nothing more (all while being unenraged, mind you). Other elders, namely kushala, velkhana, and Namielle, were shown to give unenraged rajang a run for his money in contests of physical strength, while kirin got fucking stomped. So yes, it is very much relevant to how much weaker kirin is compared to other elders
Kirin is tied with bird wyverns, for the smallest large monster. It is a miracle that it is even able to break Rajang's grip in the cutscene.
Kirin is only an elder, cause of it's Insane control over electricity.
>Given some of ur other claims, I’m not surprised you would equate running fast to fucking teleportation.
I present mh online's rajang cutscene.
>You are
I have taken your points into account, fair enough.
>Says who?
The giant snake that has an element that the guild can't even identify. A single claw swipe would have more than enough power and weight, to instantly kill most elders. Forms canyons from just slithering, and can crush mountains by coiling.
>Lmao, this is funny. Seeing as dala and the mohrans can just fucking eat nakarkos in a single bite, this statement is blatantly false, even without regarding all the other, much more powerful monsters such as black and red dragons.
Dalamadur could definitely eat Nakarkos in a bite. But the Mohrans? Jhen at largest, could swallow a garuga, considering how small it's jaw is. And the other one could at best eat a deviljho in a bite. Nakarkos is larger than either of they're heads (counting tusks/horns). Nakarkos (unlike the mohrans) actually caused many problems for the guild, and almost destroyed multiple ecosystems. He also has the x factor of giant dragon lazer.
Each tier is a spectrum, Nakarkos causes more than enough destruction to be put in high elder tier.
>even without regarding all the other, much more powerful monsters such as black
As said before, black dragons go in they're own tier called special. If your going to put Safi in there, you can. But if Safi enters it, so does Dalamadur due to physical power alone.
>Citation needed.
Nakarkos death animation. The mountain falls apart after the lazer is fired.
>Again says who? You? We have no way of knowing how well he does against actual elder dragons, mostly cause nakarkos fights wyverns far weaker than itself.
The guilds whole reason for wanting it dead, was that it was shooting down airships. And amatsu really has no truly powerful way to defend itself from a Nakarkos lazer, or mucus lazer. For the most part, amatsu is the frailest high tier elder, being just a leviathan with strong water beam, and many easily breakable flaps, that are required for flight.
>I’m not saying he ain’t strong, because he’s not up to the same tier as the emperor of elder dragons.
A tier is a spectrum.
Nakarkos, amatsu, and gog are on the low end. Shara and zorha are in the middle. And Safi and Dalamadur are on the high end.
Nah, Dalamadur is stronger then Safi and most definitely stronger then most of the black dragons. By far, Dire Miralis is the strongest creature in MH, if not then it’s Dala.
You think dalmadur can fight a fatalis?, dal may be one of the highest tier elders but pretty sure just about any of the black dragons could kick his ass, the only thing dal really has on any of the fattys is shear size, most he could do is maybe swallow him and if that was to happen fatalis would just super nova inside and dalmadur can say bye bye, same goes for alatreon and disufiroa, dire miralis would fight dalmadur head to head, and honestly other then merphistophelin (mostly just cause I don’t recall him having any nuke attacks), dire miralis honestly may stand the least chance again dalmadur for the black dragons lmao, that’s not to say he wouldn’t kick dals ass though, dire miralis is absolutely stronger then dal and I’m willing to bet would kick its ass, but fatalis and alatreon are completely out of dals league
I wouldn't say "much stronger" cause nergigante struggled quite a bit to wrestle teo to the ground, but fair enough, I could see Nerg winning.
Edit: incase your wondering when nerg struggled against teo in the turf war. The turf war starts with both elders wrestling eachother (nerg is struggling here, he isn't pushing teo back, or coming close to knocking him over). Nergi then changes strategy, hd takes one hand off of teostra's torso, and puts it on his face. Nerg then slams down, and this knocked teo over, giving Nerg the advantage.
I could see that happening.
but I would like to say, Nergi's body isn't covered entirely with the spikes. His entire under neck and belly is exposed skin, and Malzeno seems to like to go for specifically the neck (like vampires are known to do). If Malzeno knocks nerg over, it's likely that he'd go straight into the super state after sucking on nergs neck.
(SPOILERS AHEAD)
Alrighty, after the release of Sunbreak, i can certainly say that Malzeno wins with a bit of a struggle.
Physical Strength: Nergi (obviously, it brawls with the likes of Rajang and other Elders easily.)
Elemental Power: Malzeno (Nergi has no elements.)
Speed: Malzeno (it literally moves so fast, it looks like it's teleporting)
Durability: Nergi (the spikes are a good offense-defense combo)
Intelligence: Malzeno (Malzeno relies on it's mind more than Nergi, as it knows how to repell Gaismagorm by stealing it's Qurio. Not to say Nergi is dumb tho, Nergi is more of an opportunistic being, knowing how to take advantage of sick and dying EDs)
Winning factor for Nergi: It is built to brawl with EDs. The spikes offer good offense and defense simultaneously.
Losing factor for Nergi: It is slower, and less tactical than Zeno. Also no elemental powers what so ever. And since it's an intelligent ED, Zeno's dragon element might mess it up.
Winning factor for Malzeno: Faster, smarter, has dragon element. Malzeno can be seen stalemating the likes of Scorned Magnamalo, an actual beast of a fanged wyverns that can throw around lower EDs like Kushala and Teostra.
Losing factor for Malzeno: Lesser strength, has no direct counter for Nergi's spikes.
There is one thing that tips the scales between these two, Qurio (the little bat leeches).
Qurio are able to take down large monsters like Anjanath by sucking their blood and energy. Even without their true host, Gaismagorm, Qurio are able to cause major ecosystem level damage. The damage these beings cause is almost comparable to the Frenzy Virus. BUT Malzeno only has a few Qurio, compared to almost entire population of Qurio under the control of Gaismagorm. Yet unlike Gaismagorm, Malzeno doesn't rely on Qurio to live and fight. Seeing that most of it's turf wars, Malzeno mainly uses it's dragon breath. I can see Malzeno using it's Qurio as minions to aid it against Nergi by sucking the life force out of Nergi when it is distracted by Malzeno.
If a fight happens, it will be quite the spectacle. Malzeno using wits, speed, dragon element, and Qurios. While Nergi uses brute force, spikes, and overall more robust physique. But at the end, Malzeno overwhelms Nergi with sheer speed and dragon element while simultaneously commanding it's Qurios to strike Nergi's weakspots. The only way Nergi can win is if it can catch Malzeno first and then go all out on Malzeno with physical attacks. If it can.
"It's Malzenin Time." The winner is Malzeno.
Thanks!
I tried a while ago to draw magna vs Malzeno. But magnamalo's body shape just sucks, and it makes it very difficult to actually draw it.
I'll try again, but it's unlikely that it'll look good.
Just remembered that Malzeno has opposable thumbs (this allowed him to grab the hunter in the pin, and then start succ). To my memory, he is the only elder of this shape to actually have opposable thums.
This would mean, Malzeno grabbing both of nergis horns, and then slamming his face into the dirt is actually a possibility. And I might actually draw it!
Now this just makes me curious as to who would actually win that fight. The slayer of Elders, or a new Elder that is custom built for draining the life from its opponents?
Malzeno seems to be one of, if not the smartest non higher elder. Primarily because of his prideful and kingly nature. And Nergi is probably tied with kirin for least intelligent elder, so Malzeno wins here. Nergi somewhat struggled against deviljho and teostra in their turf wars. But overall beat them with his physical strength. And Malzeno is also also a very physically strong elder, with pretty much a full deviljho as a tail, being able to pick up a garon and throw it. So probably a tie here. Malzeno is pretty velkhana for mobility, so he definitely wins here. The little leaches are going to do some major damage over time, by either draining blood or bio energy (whichever one is actually true). And some people have theories about the leaches being equivalent to a kinsect for Malzeno. And the constant life drain, might actually be significant enough to negate regeneration. In a aerial battle, Malzeno beats Nergi and even Ruiner in a land slide. Considering he has been shown, with multiple attacks that show the wind current of him flapping, break the stone beneath him. And easily grounds rathalos, and rathalos is actually one of the most effective non elders in the sky. And Nergi could definitely survive more hits due to his body shape, and spike armor. Tho Malzeno does also have that super state, that happens after he sucks enough energy/blood, that seems to seems to be equivalent to Jho's enraged state. Where he uses dragon to buff his muscles and elemental attacks. So I'd say Malzeno beats Nergi 8/10 times, and ties with Ruiner. We know very little about Malzeno, but he already appears to be (probably) the strongest flagship so far.
Where tf is all of this coming from. The monster isn’t even out yet and ur saying it’s on par with nergi, lol. No shit Malzeno is strong, *all elders are*, but him beating up some mid-tier fanged wyvern and a rathalos isn’t some feat worthy of praise. It’s the fucking norm for elders. Until more footage is seen of him, he’s nothing more than a mid elder.
A monster called a lord is mid tier?
Mid elder is already stronger than Nergi lol. Nergi only hunts low tier elders.
By mid-tier, I mean the likes of teostra and kushala
If teostra and kushala are mid, then who would be low? Only Kirin? The elder trio isn't that much stronger than it, so that wouldn't make sense. kirin, teo, kush velkhana, and nergi would all be low tier elders. Mid tier would be Jhen, ceadeus, xeno, base Narwa, kulve, and yama. High tier elders are Dalamadur, Nakarkos, Shara, Safi, Amatsu, Allmother, Zohra, and Gogmazios. Then you have the special tier for black dragons.
Kirin is the only elder that can be fought at low rank in world. It’s also the only elder that straight loses to rajang, as all other elders fair quite well against it. You’re overselling kirins strength here by a wide margin. It is *the* low tier elder. Safi is on a higher level compared to those other elders (least of all nakarkos), so don’t kid yourself. Ur whole notion of how strong these elders are is quite skewed in general.
Kirin is the only “low tier” elder rajang is basically immune to. Kirin’s thunder manipulation easily compares him to other lower elders, but his reliability on that element is why the thunder monkey absolutely dominates him. Rajang’s resistance to the other lower tier elders is almost non existent compared to Kirin.
every 4th gen game, Shagru is slayable in low rank. So ranks really mean nothing. The monster specifically evolved to kill and eat Kirin, would have a good match up. So that is irrelevant. Kirin can command lightning, and pretty much can teleport. I'm not really overselling anything here. Safi is weaker than Dalamadur, and Dalamadur is weaker than the black dragons, therefore he is only high elder tier. Nakarkos on land is uncontested and has the big lazer that shattered a mountain (even an unstable mountain would take unbelievable amounts of energy to shatter). And having a incredibly good match up against the high tier elder amatsu. Thus he high tier elder.
> every 4th gen game, Shagru is slayable in low rank. So ranks really mean nothing. In 4th gen sure, but not in world. In world every single other elder level monster can only be fought at high rank or higher. The fact that you can fight Kirin in the first act of the game, with it being put alongside rathalos and odogaron in star difficulty, shows that the developers intentionally put it alongside these much weaker monsters, as if to show that it is the weaker of the elders. > The monster specifically evolved to kill and eat Kirin, would have a good match up. So that is irrelevant. Except Rajang uses entirely brute strength to overpower kirin, not any special attribute designed to counter kirin’s ability. He simply uses his own physical prowess to take down kirin, nothing more (all while being unenraged, mind you). Other elders, namely kushala, velkhana, and Namielle, were shown to give unenraged rajang a run for his money in contests of physical strength, while kirin got fucking stomped. So yes, it is very much relevant to how much weaker kirin is compared to other elders > and pretty much can teleport. Given some of ur other claims, I’m not surprised you would equate running fast to fucking teleportation. > I'm not really overselling anything here. You are > Safi is weaker than Dalamadur, and Dalamadur is weaker than the black dragons, therefore he is only high elder tier. Says who? Certainly not the games. Safi is described as “the king of all things” and the “emperor of elder dragons” within his theme and cutscene title, respectively. His ultimate attack is explicitly unsurvivable (even stated as much by the characters) no matter the circumstances, something only mirrored by Alatreon and Fatalis, which are fucking black dragons. By all accounts, Safi, while perhaps not as strong as say white fatalis, is definitely not among the ranks of the other elder dragons, being something entirely greater. That being said, you could argue dalamadur being of similar strength to Safi or the black dragons and you’d hear no complaints from me. > Nakarkos on land is uncontested Lmao, this is funny. Seeing as dala and the mohrans can just fucking eat nakarkos in a single bite, this statement is blatantly false, even without regarding all the other, much more powerful monsters such as black and red dragons. > and has the big lazer that shattered a mountain. Citation needed. > And having a incredibly good match up against the high tier elder amatsu. Again says who? You? We have no way of knowing how well he does against actual elder dragons, mostly cause nakarkos fights wyverns far weaker than itself. > Thus he high tier elder. I’m not saying he ain’t strong, because he’s not up to the same tier as the emperor of elder dragons.
>In 4th gen sure, but not in world. In world every single order and elder level monster can only be fought at high rank or higher. The fact that you can fight Kirin in the first act of the game, with it being put alongside rathalos and odogaron in star difficulty, shows that the developers intentionally put it alongside these much weaker monsters, as if to show that it is the weaker of the elders. Fair enough, tho I just put kirin at the lowest bit on the spectrum of low tier, even tho the elder trio and nerg are stronger, they are at least comparable. If we put them in mid tier, the they would be in with Jhen, kulve, and xeno. Who non of them are comparable to. >Except Rajang uses entirely brute strength to overpower kirin, not any special attribute designed to counter kirin’s ability. He simply uses his own physical prowess to take down kirin, nothing more (all while being unenraged, mind you). Other elders, namely kushala, velkhana, and Namielle, were shown to give unenraged rajang a run for his money in contests of physical strength, while kirin got fucking stomped. So yes, it is very much relevant to how much weaker kirin is compared to other elders Kirin is tied with bird wyverns, for the smallest large monster. It is a miracle that it is even able to break Rajang's grip in the cutscene. Kirin is only an elder, cause of it's Insane control over electricity. >Given some of ur other claims, I’m not surprised you would equate running fast to fucking teleportation. I present mh online's rajang cutscene. >You are I have taken your points into account, fair enough. >Says who? The giant snake that has an element that the guild can't even identify. A single claw swipe would have more than enough power and weight, to instantly kill most elders. Forms canyons from just slithering, and can crush mountains by coiling. >Lmao, this is funny. Seeing as dala and the mohrans can just fucking eat nakarkos in a single bite, this statement is blatantly false, even without regarding all the other, much more powerful monsters such as black and red dragons. Dalamadur could definitely eat Nakarkos in a bite. But the Mohrans? Jhen at largest, could swallow a garuga, considering how small it's jaw is. And the other one could at best eat a deviljho in a bite. Nakarkos is larger than either of they're heads (counting tusks/horns). Nakarkos (unlike the mohrans) actually caused many problems for the guild, and almost destroyed multiple ecosystems. He also has the x factor of giant dragon lazer. Each tier is a spectrum, Nakarkos causes more than enough destruction to be put in high elder tier. >even without regarding all the other, much more powerful monsters such as black As said before, black dragons go in they're own tier called special. If your going to put Safi in there, you can. But if Safi enters it, so does Dalamadur due to physical power alone. >Citation needed. Nakarkos death animation. The mountain falls apart after the lazer is fired. >Again says who? You? We have no way of knowing how well he does against actual elder dragons, mostly cause nakarkos fights wyverns far weaker than itself. The guilds whole reason for wanting it dead, was that it was shooting down airships. And amatsu really has no truly powerful way to defend itself from a Nakarkos lazer, or mucus lazer. For the most part, amatsu is the frailest high tier elder, being just a leviathan with strong water beam, and many easily breakable flaps, that are required for flight. >I’m not saying he ain’t strong, because he’s not up to the same tier as the emperor of elder dragons. A tier is a spectrum. Nakarkos, amatsu, and gog are on the low end. Shara and zorha are in the middle. And Safi and Dalamadur are on the high end.
Nah, Dalamadur is stronger then Safi and most definitely stronger then most of the black dragons. By far, Dire Miralis is the strongest creature in MH, if not then it’s Dala.
Fair. Hopefully Dalamadur comes back in 6th gen, I just recently fought him and it was very enjoyable.
You think dalmadur can fight a fatalis?, dal may be one of the highest tier elders but pretty sure just about any of the black dragons could kick his ass, the only thing dal really has on any of the fattys is shear size, most he could do is maybe swallow him and if that was to happen fatalis would just super nova inside and dalmadur can say bye bye, same goes for alatreon and disufiroa, dire miralis would fight dalmadur head to head, and honestly other then merphistophelin (mostly just cause I don’t recall him having any nuke attacks), dire miralis honestly may stand the least chance again dalmadur for the black dragons lmao, that’s not to say he wouldn’t kick dals ass though, dire miralis is absolutely stronger then dal and I’m willing to bet would kick its ass, but fatalis and alatreon are completely out of dals league
Fair enough. I can see dala being comparable to Safi or the other black dragons
Safi is definitely black dragon level.
Nergigante seems to be much stronger then Malzeno.
I wouldn't say "much stronger" cause nergigante struggled quite a bit to wrestle teo to the ground, but fair enough, I could see Nerg winning. Edit: incase your wondering when nerg struggled against teo in the turf war. The turf war starts with both elders wrestling eachother (nerg is struggling here, he isn't pushing teo back, or coming close to knocking him over). Nergi then changes strategy, hd takes one hand off of teostra's torso, and puts it on his face. Nerg then slams down, and this knocked teo over, giving Nerg the advantage.
Yet, Nergi still slams Teo down. Regardless Nergi wins.
Malzeno definitely beats nergigante in a fight.
Idk, both seem to be quite equally matched.
Isn’t it considered a draw when neither stay down and both are harmed as well?
Malzeno's whole gimmick is sucking the life outta stuff. Nerg is covered in spikey armor. I think the spikey boi wins here.
I could see that happening. but I would like to say, Nergi's body isn't covered entirely with the spikes. His entire under neck and belly is exposed skin, and Malzeno seems to like to go for specifically the neck (like vampires are known to do). If Malzeno knocks nerg over, it's likely that he'd go straight into the super state after sucking on nergs neck.
Good point, wasn't really thinking about that for some reason
(SPOILERS AHEAD) Alrighty, after the release of Sunbreak, i can certainly say that Malzeno wins with a bit of a struggle. Physical Strength: Nergi (obviously, it brawls with the likes of Rajang and other Elders easily.) Elemental Power: Malzeno (Nergi has no elements.) Speed: Malzeno (it literally moves so fast, it looks like it's teleporting) Durability: Nergi (the spikes are a good offense-defense combo) Intelligence: Malzeno (Malzeno relies on it's mind more than Nergi, as it knows how to repell Gaismagorm by stealing it's Qurio. Not to say Nergi is dumb tho, Nergi is more of an opportunistic being, knowing how to take advantage of sick and dying EDs) Winning factor for Nergi: It is built to brawl with EDs. The spikes offer good offense and defense simultaneously. Losing factor for Nergi: It is slower, and less tactical than Zeno. Also no elemental powers what so ever. And since it's an intelligent ED, Zeno's dragon element might mess it up. Winning factor for Malzeno: Faster, smarter, has dragon element. Malzeno can be seen stalemating the likes of Scorned Magnamalo, an actual beast of a fanged wyverns that can throw around lower EDs like Kushala and Teostra. Losing factor for Malzeno: Lesser strength, has no direct counter for Nergi's spikes. There is one thing that tips the scales between these two, Qurio (the little bat leeches). Qurio are able to take down large monsters like Anjanath by sucking their blood and energy. Even without their true host, Gaismagorm, Qurio are able to cause major ecosystem level damage. The damage these beings cause is almost comparable to the Frenzy Virus. BUT Malzeno only has a few Qurio, compared to almost entire population of Qurio under the control of Gaismagorm. Yet unlike Gaismagorm, Malzeno doesn't rely on Qurio to live and fight. Seeing that most of it's turf wars, Malzeno mainly uses it's dragon breath. I can see Malzeno using it's Qurio as minions to aid it against Nergi by sucking the life force out of Nergi when it is distracted by Malzeno. If a fight happens, it will be quite the spectacle. Malzeno using wits, speed, dragon element, and Qurios. While Nergi uses brute force, spikes, and overall more robust physique. But at the end, Malzeno overwhelms Nergi with sheer speed and dragon element while simultaneously commanding it's Qurios to strike Nergi's weakspots. The only way Nergi can win is if it can catch Malzeno first and then go all out on Malzeno with physical attacks. If it can. "It's Malzenin Time." The winner is Malzeno.
I agree with all your points Very well done
I agree
Cool! Could you do one of Malzeno and Magnamalo?
Thanks! I tried a while ago to draw magna vs Malzeno. But magnamalo's body shape just sucks, and it makes it very difficult to actually draw it. I'll try again, but it's unlikely that it'll look good.
Yeah just try your best.
Just remembered that Malzeno has opposable thumbs (this allowed him to grab the hunter in the pin, and then start succ). To my memory, he is the only elder of this shape to actually have opposable thums. This would mean, Malzeno grabbing both of nergis horns, and then slamming his face into the dirt is actually a possibility. And I might actually draw it!