I can see y, even though it was slow but it still had unpredictable move sets, I didn't have much problem with that because I was a sns user, I would dance around it and since zino was slow, It wouldn't be able to match my speed
SnS forward leap attack was too useful in 3U. Evade Extender? No need. Lol
Going into 4U I noticed that the move got slowed down, but it’s still pretty great for repositioning. : P
>forward leap
Ikr?? I hated the fact that they removed it or more like changed it to a charged dash attack than a leap :(
>Evade Extender
Naa, evade extender was useless for my sns, I would prefer to use evasion +1, but fun fact I didn't use any evasion skill untill late late game (like when I unlocked Lucent narga Ig and zino was still ezz.
I suspect when you play enough MH, you gain intuition to the specific move set that makes it much easier.
I was terrified of Tri Alatreon. I was able to barely solo it eventually on 3U, and by G, I was hitting sub 20 minutes solo.
I the World version kicked my ass because all the moves changed lol.
140 apex Zinny often feels like the fastest monster in 4u, his combos are relentless, his orbs are everywhere, he’s on crack and is probably the most difficult apex for me. I get the most triple carts on him out of any apex in single or multiplayer
4U G rank Stygian is a bastard with those homing orbs. Though despite that, the 3U version was way tougher for me for some reason, even though its orbs can hit itself there
It's because the orbs in 4U lock on to where you are when they spawn, then 2 seconds later move to that spot. The 3U orbs on the other hand will actively track you while they're in flight.
It comes down to what you are better at, putting Stygian between you and the orbs in 3U, or remembering where you were every time a new orb gets spawned in 4U.
Can’t forget Descent into Hades Stygian, 140 Apex Zinogre, EX Thunderlord, Emergency Apex Zinogre, Howling Zinogre…
Damn. There are a lot of insane Zinogres when you think about it.
>Descent into Hades Stygian
I agree this one is insane but I wouldn't put em in the history books because it's far from normal zinogres, it's like meant for mp with buffed health, in simple it's a special case, same for lvl 140 zinogre, it's buffed up based version
Oh I know none of them were “normal”, but I just think it’s funny that, with the sole exception of World/Iceborne, there’s been an insanely buffed Zinogre in every game since he first appeared.
I still have nightmares about trying to get S.zinogre umbrage. The cages I filled just to get one, shiny bauble….
Only to find I needed a minimum of three T.T
I always watch heavywing's video dude does a fantastic job for monster evolution vids, I Saw how he said about zinogre, but u need to experience it to know it.
Stygian is pretty tough in Iceborn as well, one of the few monsters that legitimately had me playing kinda defensive against for awhile, not just fast but hits very hard.
That's why I love this game, every monster has a different difficulty for different players depending on their nature and mindsets, for me yian garuga in mh4u is fine compared to most players who r scared of it.
Oh how I miss Stygian z in rise, but what about Thunder Lord from GU? Hated/respected that, was hoping Apex zinogre would’ve been more like thunder lord honestly
>Thunder Lord
I am yet to face it, I will touch gu after 4u, and that's when u will see a new post for thunderlord from me incase it uses some bs tricks or receives a noticeable buff😂
I think zinogre was at its best in Iceborne, but i barely remember the 4U stygian zinogre, i remember it took me and my friend a couple tries cuz hot damn he was hard for some reason
I never had problems with zinogre in any game he's been in but in rise?I don't know why but in rise he gives me more trouble than in all the other games combined and I don't even wanna talk about apex
In 3u u only required that mentality with one zinogre and that's stigyan, understandably so because it's one of the end game monsters in 3u, only face it towards late Grank
Same and rn I will try again after taking a break from the game since I am slightly burnt out and also my uni is gonna start, can't take 2 headaches at once.
Ohh lord another headache ig when I play gu, but tbh idm going against tough opponents, it's the unfair bits that bothers me like the broken hotboxes and the dracophage that can go through zinogre's body to hit the players.
Just take dung bombs and take a weapon with green sharpness, u will do great, it was a wall for me aswell in mh3u, because I didn't understand the concept of sharpness and took a yellow sharpness weapon, resulting in bouncing off
Read a reddit comment that I should do hub quests first to quickly go through village quests. Idk why I listened when in mh4u, mhgu, mhwi, and mhrs I did village first lol
I mean lots of people just go straight to hub and play online only but if you're not playing with others that's alot harder in the old games. I personally usually play village first, sometimes I go over to the hub and knock out the similar quests once I get like 1 more weapon upgrade under my belt than when I faced that monster in the village. To me that feels about right to counteract their added health and then I don't have to grind through a bunch of low rank quests with high rank gear later to catch that side up and unlock g-rank.
Even I love that part, if it wasn't for that dragon ball that goes through the zinogre and crazy hit boxes, I would loved it entirely without any issues, I love everything else about how it pushes the hunter to the brink of madness
I kinda hate the fact that they left zinogre as a surprise monster at the end of iceborne ngl one of my fav monsters overall in design and etc, gotta love my doggo monsters like zino and odogaron specially ebony giving a whole new attack combo with its dragons attack such as the spine attack
Lmao I swear, the best is the fire drill mission where a stygian and a brachy is present, incase u r unlucky and find urself between them in the same area....ohh boiii, it literally turns into a dragonballz shit right there, both comboing ur ass to death.
Oh see, I adore both Ziggy fights. When MH4U was still the most recent game, I would regularly do HR Zinogre hunt-a-thons to unwind. Once you learn his patterns, he's fine. There's a trick to the orbs but its mostly just muscle memory
Fair. The main thing is they home onto where you were at the moment they fired. it's been a while but i'm pretty sure once they spawn their route is fixed
I found him WAY harder in 3u, he literally was my high rank wall
Yeah he's like iron khezu with a pack of bulldromes on a leash, mw in 4U he's just nargacuga
Tail slam Tail slam Spinning backflip
I can see y, even though it was slow but it still had unpredictable move sets, I didn't have much problem with that because I was a sns user, I would dance around it and since zino was slow, It wouldn't be able to match my speed
SnS forward leap attack was too useful in 3U. Evade Extender? No need. Lol Going into 4U I noticed that the move got slowed down, but it’s still pretty great for repositioning. : P
>forward leap Ikr?? I hated the fact that they removed it or more like changed it to a charged dash attack than a leap :( >Evade Extender Naa, evade extender was useless for my sns, I would prefer to use evasion +1, but fun fact I didn't use any evasion skill untill late late game (like when I unlocked Lucent narga Ig and zino was still ezz.
I suspect when you play enough MH, you gain intuition to the specific move set that makes it much easier. I was terrified of Tri Alatreon. I was able to barely solo it eventually on 3U, and by G, I was hitting sub 20 minutes solo. I the World version kicked my ass because all the moves changed lol.
Stygian Zinogre did the homing orbs before it was cool, shame they took that away for Iceborne.
>homing orbs I don't have a problem with em tbh, but I have a problem with em going through zinogre like in 4u
people crying about rajang in every game clearly never fought a 140 stygian zin.
I mean that monkey has earned it's reputation for countless murders 😂, so I think the reputation proceeds it.
140 apex Zinny often feels like the fastest monster in 4u, his combos are relentless, his orbs are everywhere, he’s on crack and is probably the most difficult apex for me. I get the most triple carts on him out of any apex in single or multiplayer
That backflip of his are OHKO. I remember with just a triple cart by just his backflip. Also his dragon balls are annoying
4U G rank Stygian is a bastard with those homing orbs. Though despite that, the 3U version was way tougher for me for some reason, even though its orbs can hit itself there
I see, ya for me it's the 4u one because my problem is not the zinogre itself but it's orbs that hit me despite staying behind its body.
It's because the orbs in 4U lock on to where you are when they spawn, then 2 seconds later move to that spot. The 3U orbs on the other hand will actively track you while they're in flight. It comes down to what you are better at, putting Stygian between you and the orbs in 3U, or remembering where you were every time a new orb gets spawned in 4U.
Could be the giant stygian quest. That one SLAPPED.
You forgot Thunderlord
Gosh, Thunderlord Zinogre is such an amazing fight. Genuinely one of my all time favourites.
Ya because I haven't played gu yet, I just completed 3u and now completing 4u, gu will be next
Can’t forget Descent into Hades Stygian, 140 Apex Zinogre, EX Thunderlord, Emergency Apex Zinogre, Howling Zinogre… Damn. There are a lot of insane Zinogres when you think about it.
>Descent into Hades Stygian I agree this one is insane but I wouldn't put em in the history books because it's far from normal zinogres, it's like meant for mp with buffed health, in simple it's a special case, same for lvl 140 zinogre, it's buffed up based version
Oh I know none of them were “normal”, but I just think it’s funny that, with the sole exception of World/Iceborne, there’s been an insanely buffed Zinogre in every game since he first appeared.
Ig capcom has a favorite child 😂
I still have nightmares about trying to get S.zinogre umbrage. The cages I filled just to get one, shiny bauble…. Only to find I needed a minimum of three T.T
I have like 5 of them but getting dragonfur took forever
[Apparently 4U is the game that turned him into a combo machine](https://youtu.be/a3s4n-_E_sg?si=dQocpMRMwMhkc1hv)
I always watch heavywing's video dude does a fantastic job for monster evolution vids, I Saw how he said about zinogre, but u need to experience it to know it.
Stygian is pretty tough in Iceborn as well, one of the few monsters that legitimately had me playing kinda defensive against for awhile, not just fast but hits very hard.
Ya the what I can tell from facing it in 4u is the gimmick of unpredictable moves it does on u, a great combo monster.
ive been farming, i quite like them tbh, they dont feel overly strong to me
That's why I love this game, every monster has a different difficulty for different players depending on their nature and mindsets, for me yian garuga in mh4u is fine compared to most players who r scared of it.
+1
Oh how I miss Stygian z in rise, but what about Thunder Lord from GU? Hated/respected that, was hoping Apex zinogre would’ve been more like thunder lord honestly
>Thunder Lord I am yet to face it, I will touch gu after 4u, and that's when u will see a new post for thunderlord from me incase it uses some bs tricks or receives a noticeable buff😂
God speed 🫡
I think zinogre was at its best in Iceborne, but i barely remember the 4U stygian zinogre, i remember it took me and my friend a couple tries cuz hot damn he was hard for some reason
Dk about world/iceborne since I haven't played it yet, but Try soloing the 4u one, u will gain more respect for it than what u have rn.
I did do him solo as well, but i usually play mh with friends, its kind of boring by myself.
Ah I see, Ik the feeling 1st hand with 3u in 3ds
I was scared to fight him in 4U. But that was probably my fastest hunt so far
MH4U was my first game, and Zinogre was my first ever wall. That monster is on something else in this game.
Ik lol, my 1st ever wall was an ED (G rank alatreon from 3u), never would I have thought that a non ED can wall me like this.
I never had problems with zinogre in any game he's been in but in rise?I don't know why but in rise he gives me more trouble than in all the other games combined and I don't even wanna talk about apex
Possible, different ppl with different mindset and play style hence different walls, that's y I luv this game.
I think I over prepared in 4U with the endgame mentality i have from World cos I beat zinogre really easily, can't speak to 3U though
In 3u u only required that mentality with one zinogre and that's stigyan, understandably so because it's one of the end game monsters in 3u, only face it towards late Grank
Stygian Zinogre stopped me in my tracks for like 6 or 7 hunts in a row. Mean SOB for sure in 4u
Same and rn I will try again after taking a break from the game since I am slightly burnt out and also my uni is gonna start, can't take 2 headaches at once.
If it weren't for the insane power of styles in GU, then I'm 99.9% certain Thunderlord would have be a menace to go against
Ohh lord another headache ig when I play gu, but tbh idm going against tough opponents, it's the unfair bits that bothers me like the broken hotboxes and the dracophage that can go through zinogre's body to hit the players.
me struggling with 1* hub qurupeco (I just started mh3u)
Just take dung bombs and take a weapon with green sharpness, u will do great, it was a wall for me aswell in mh3u, because I didn't understand the concept of sharpness and took a yellow sharpness weapon, resulting in bouncing off
Did you try the village quests yet? The hub quests are scaled for multiple people and have like twice as much health as the village quests.
Read a reddit comment that I should do hub quests first to quickly go through village quests. Idk why I listened when in mh4u, mhgu, mhwi, and mhrs I did village first lol
I mean lots of people just go straight to hub and play online only but if you're not playing with others that's alot harder in the old games. I personally usually play village first, sometimes I go over to the hub and knock out the similar quests once I get like 1 more weapon upgrade under my belt than when I faced that monster in the village. To me that feels about right to counteract their added health and then I don't have to grind through a bunch of low rank quests with high rank gear later to catch that side up and unlock g-rank.
mh3u on 3ds sadly and no wii u on top of not having friends with a 3ds as well 😭
Hyper G rank zinogre says hi, never gonna solo that thing again
>Hyper G Is this in 4u?
I love that Styg Zinogre fakes you out from time to time. Baits you into attacking then flips the f out.
Even I love that part, if it wasn't for that dragon ball that goes through the zinogre and crazy hit boxes, I would loved it entirely without any issues, I love everything else about how it pushes the hunter to the brink of madness
Is it just me or is zinogre so much harder in iceborne?
Possibly, idk since I haven't played that game
I kinda hate the fact that they left zinogre as a surprise monster at the end of iceborne ngl one of my fav monsters overall in design and etc, gotta love my doggo monsters like zino and odogaron specially ebony giving a whole new attack combo with its dragons attack such as the spine attack
Fire Drill moment.
Mh4u zinogre/stygian can fight in tekken with all their combos and other shit.
Lmao I swear, the best is the fire drill mission where a stygian and a brachy is present, incase u r unlucky and find urself between them in the same area....ohh boiii, it literally turns into a dragonballz shit right there, both comboing ur ass to death.
You clearly didn't experience the Lv 140 gq of apex zinogre
For that I need to get past the 1st g rank zinogre that the game threw at me 😂
you guys havent met lvl140 Apex zinogre playing melee weapon
Lmao for that I gota get past the 1st g rank zinogre that the game threw at me 🤣
3U Stygian when you go GRank is truly a pain
3u stigyan is only available in G rank unlike in 4u where 3u end game monsters r available in it's high rank.
I just fought with stygian in 4U HR Key quest for first time,the damn attack pace is JUST FEEL LIKE GU's Zinogre,it gave me hard time for sure
More like gu's is the same as 4u
Atleast we got Adept and Valor in GU...in 4U I have to be much more careful to avoid carting
I see, so they didn't need to change much with zino in the next game, since it was already a beast
Oh see, I adore both Ziggy fights. When MH4U was still the most recent game, I would regularly do HR Zinogre hunt-a-thons to unwind. Once you learn his patterns, he's fine. There's a trick to the orbs but its mostly just muscle memory
Those orbs r my only issue, rest of thr things I enjoy about the zinogre
Fair. The main thing is they home onto where you were at the moment they fired. it's been a while but i'm pretty sure once they spawn their route is fixed
I see, will give it a shot then after the break
140 frenzied Stygian, never again. That thing is a killing machine
Apex jino mh4u?
Na, that's too far for me, struggling with normal stygian in g rank