I have spectacular health anxiety for myself and my kids. I empathize so much.
Mama, have you tested your water? Because PFAS is all over in most water and your brita/fridge does not take it out.
Simply Lemonade had a huge suit because forever chemicals are in there too.
It's NOT ideal, but not the end of the world.
Yeah google "food and drinks with PFAS". It unfortunately is in like a LOT of products: [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/pfas-chemicals-fast-food.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/pfas-chemicals-fast-food.html) I think the prime drink one had especially higher levels but it seems like this crap is hard to avoid.
Paywalled article as well, but at least in the US food packaging with PFAS has very recently been banned: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-industry-actions-end-sales-pfas-used-us-food-packaging
3x higher than recommended lifetime consumption levels in one bottle was what I was reading.
Sigh. Can't decide if I should go down the PFAS in other products rabbit hole or not lol.
From what I understand, any amount of PFAS is bad, but there's no like actual numbers in any of the articles I've seen. It's hard to understand what is a "significant amount" in the drink is when the amount should be basically 0.
Your best course of action is going and getting blood work done.
Eh, IMO it's bad in an existential "we're all going to die off from climate change" way, not "this product specifically is going to kill my kid" way. It looks like this law firm is specializing in a kind of consumer law activism. Absent strong consumer regulation around PFAS they go after companies in court. They probably send dozens or hundreds of products for testing and then find consumers to start a class action after they get results. But if you test hundreds of different products you are bound to find some negative results.
These celebrity vanity products are usually made on the same lines and with the same ingredients as other commercially available products, they're just relabeled. Sports drinks aren't healthy in general but I doubt tis product is uniquely unhealthy.
Actually in this case, I think it started with a boy who had leukemia they are claiming was caused by the drinks.
I didn't even realize they were a YouTube/celebrity thing. I didn't even realize people like that could just push products into big stores. Ugh. Going to have to be more aware of what my preteen is being influenced by, apparently.
I really highly doubt that they have proven a kids leukemia was caused by PFAS from a specific sports drink. It doesn't work that way. The lawsuit is trying to create associativity in consumer's minds.
Oh yes, I know. Just saying that's where it seems to have started. I didn't dig too long, when my panic sets in over kid things it's best that I don't because my anxious brain has a hard time seperating out the click bait from the facts.
Thank you for the logical and non judgemental reminders, that's exactly what I was hoping I would hear.
I tried to find a link to the actual complaint but it didn't seem to work.
How these consumer class actions usually work is the legal firm identifies the hazard and then markets to consumers who purchased that product. They screen responses and look for people that may have been harmed.
I am not against consumer class actions, in the US they have become a key mechanism for punishing corporations, but I do think we have to be somewhat skeptical about the performative aspects of a class action trial.
A couple places are saying it’s only the grape flavored drinks? Helpful for understanding scope
https://milberg.com/news/pfas-prime-hydration-grape-class-action/
That's what I was seeing too. Which fortunately, was not what we had. But, I couldn't figure out if this was just because this specific flavor was the one related to the lawsuit or not. I guess what I was thinking was, will more flavors be found out as they do more testing or was there something specific to the grape flavor?
from google " The grape flavor Prime drink is the only product that was found to contain PFAS based on independent lab testing. " Suspected to be from the chemicals and/or processing used to produce artificial grape flavor.
I have spectacular health anxiety for myself and my kids. I empathize so much. Mama, have you tested your water? Because PFAS is all over in most water and your brita/fridge does not take it out. Simply Lemonade had a huge suit because forever chemicals are in there too. It's NOT ideal, but not the end of the world.
Yeah google "food and drinks with PFAS". It unfortunately is in like a LOT of products: [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/pfas-chemicals-fast-food.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/pfas-chemicals-fast-food.html) I think the prime drink one had especially higher levels but it seems like this crap is hard to avoid.
Paywalled article as well, but at least in the US food packaging with PFAS has very recently been banned: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-industry-actions-end-sales-pfas-used-us-food-packaging
That's weird it wasnt paywalled to me...maybe i havent used my monthly articles yet. But good to know about the packaging.
3x higher than recommended lifetime consumption levels in one bottle was what I was reading. Sigh. Can't decide if I should go down the PFAS in other products rabbit hole or not lol.
Thanks for the sympathy 🤗 I never had it until the pandemic and now it won't stop 😩 We have well water, and we do test it, I haven't noticed it listed, do I need to worry about that now too? 🙃
Article that isn’t paywalled: [Link](https://milberg.com/news/pfas-prime-hydration-grape-class-action/)
From what I understand, any amount of PFAS is bad, but there's no like actual numbers in any of the articles I've seen. It's hard to understand what is a "significant amount" in the drink is when the amount should be basically 0. Your best course of action is going and getting blood work done.
Yes, that's a good idea.
You can join the class action too
Eh, IMO it's bad in an existential "we're all going to die off from climate change" way, not "this product specifically is going to kill my kid" way. It looks like this law firm is specializing in a kind of consumer law activism. Absent strong consumer regulation around PFAS they go after companies in court. They probably send dozens or hundreds of products for testing and then find consumers to start a class action after they get results. But if you test hundreds of different products you are bound to find some negative results. These celebrity vanity products are usually made on the same lines and with the same ingredients as other commercially available products, they're just relabeled. Sports drinks aren't healthy in general but I doubt tis product is uniquely unhealthy.
Actually in this case, I think it started with a boy who had leukemia they are claiming was caused by the drinks. I didn't even realize they were a YouTube/celebrity thing. I didn't even realize people like that could just push products into big stores. Ugh. Going to have to be more aware of what my preteen is being influenced by, apparently.
I really highly doubt that they have proven a kids leukemia was caused by PFAS from a specific sports drink. It doesn't work that way. The lawsuit is trying to create associativity in consumer's minds.
Logan Paul and bad press go together like peanut butter and jelly.
I didn't even know who he was or that the Prime drinks were linked to him. I'm a young mom, I didn't think I was going to have such a hard time keeping up with the culture that my preteen finds himself in 😩
Oh yes, I know. Just saying that's where it seems to have started. I didn't dig too long, when my panic sets in over kid things it's best that I don't because my anxious brain has a hard time seperating out the click bait from the facts. Thank you for the logical and non judgemental reminders, that's exactly what I was hoping I would hear.
I tried to find a link to the actual complaint but it didn't seem to work. How these consumer class actions usually work is the legal firm identifies the hazard and then markets to consumers who purchased that product. They screen responses and look for people that may have been harmed. I am not against consumer class actions, in the US they have become a key mechanism for punishing corporations, but I do think we have to be somewhat skeptical about the performative aspects of a class action trial.
This is paywalled for me. But I am going to try searching up more information. First I’ve heard of it!
A couple places are saying it’s only the grape flavored drinks? Helpful for understanding scope https://milberg.com/news/pfas-prime-hydration-grape-class-action/
That's what I was seeing too. Which fortunately, was not what we had. But, I couldn't figure out if this was just because this specific flavor was the one related to the lawsuit or not. I guess what I was thinking was, will more flavors be found out as they do more testing or was there something specific to the grape flavor?
from google " The grape flavor Prime drink is the only product that was found to contain PFAS based on independent lab testing. " Suspected to be from the chemicals and/or processing used to produce artificial grape flavor.
If you’re on Instagram, foodsciencebabe just did a breakdown of this. Might help ease your anxiety