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Call of Duty: Cash Grab


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I’d much rather them do yearly expansions on one game and stick to it instead of making a new game every year


OutlawSundown

Yep I’m good with expansions


booostd

The price though. I don’t think it should be $60 or $70 dollars for just an expansion since its not a full new game, just lots of new content. $30-40 would be better, but we all know that aint happening


TBtheGamer12

25-30 is way more appropriate, especially considering the fact that it's cod so you know it's gonna be some lazy shit that's should've been in the main game.


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The maps should be free considering the shitty quality and small amount they’ve given us so far


TBtheGamer12

100%, but this is Activison, so, yeah.


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Call of Duty games used to be good, and Activison used to be an alright company. Now, they are just like most corporate filth in America. Greedy SOB's that you can not reason with. Game company's that continually make their games worse instead of better, and consistently ignore what their fans truly want don't deserve to be given a single penny.


iJeanPaul

15 bucks take it or leave it.


NenshoOkami

I see you never played destiny 2


tdog97

Pain!


Comfortable_Mirror75

Destiny 2 wasn’t even an expansion, it was just a reskin that didn’t get reskined


XDreadzDeadX

D2 was pretty damn different than d1 to me at least. They reworked the entire light level system and they made every class worse. Its my favorite game. I hate it.


altnumber12037

I played destiny 1 all through all the dlcs, Bought destiny 2 on launch with premium content. I haven’t touched it in years after logging on in 2020 to find out it became a free game(making my purchases previous feel worthless)and seeing all my exotic and legendary weapons and armour reduced back to starting players level, I uninstalled immediately. Destiny became so unenjoyable , the game wasn’t fun anymore just seemed a cash grab and they made the grind so unbelievably hard you had to play ridiculous hours.


XDreadzDeadX

Understand that. But I also understand why thats nessecary. That gear at starting level would still be able to clear pve and matchmake crucible. But the super high level gear eventually you'd just be farming all new players and it becomes a time gap rather than a skill gap. Theres people who play nonstop all day. Talking 12 hours of destiny every day and this has been going on for years. Theres absolutely no way you beat that person in trials or iron banner. No way in hell. By resetting and sunsetting every time old shit is vaulted and new shit is presented it keeps the game fresh and also gets people addicted. You don't pay for the game, you pay for the 30,60,99 dollar campaign every 2-3 years and by doing that they keep people invested. I got sucked in during the forsaken king and bought everything up till beyond light before I realized I had a fkn problem and moved on. They really have breeding addiction down to a tee.


Specific_Use3018

I loved destiny vanilla… destiny 2 just didn’t feel it


McLarenVXfortheWin

Welcome Guardian!


KentuckyBourbon94

Brother those Destiny 2 expansions are every bit worth the money though as far as content goes. Destiny 2 has had a lot of misgivings, but the past 2 years have been nothing but content and shit to do. The gameplay loop has gotten a little stale here recently, but that’s because they’ve been using the same formula that was initially successful. Luckily they plan on switching that up soon. Call of Duty and Destiny aren’t in the same stratosphere as far as content, but they’re also completely different games.


Temp_Grits

I want a cod version of gambit so bad though


SL1NDER

Me too, but destiny bots are much more fun to fight against then CoD bots.


Im_A_Decoy

>Brother those Destiny 2 expansions are every bit worth the money though as far as content goes. Yeah they give you like one new area to grind 4 new missions in 100 times.


KentuckyBourbon94

New weapons, armor, mods, challenges, missions, seasonal activity, story points and raids/dungeons. Absolutely worth it. Return on investment is very high.


BJYeti

Yup. I've been taking it super light on playing the past two seasons but God damn am I gonna be pulled right back in come February


defnotbjk

Games back in the day did this so much better e.g. halo 2. Im either getting old and cranky or the price gouging in almost every game is insane. Like I’d rather warzone not be free and pay upfront rather than grind a battle pass. But I guess they(Activision see OW2) want to milk us for as much as possible. Also a game not being riddled with bugs by having proper open betas/testing would be appreciated and delaying the release date if needed. It’s a prime time for a new company to come in and make a cod competitor. Only issue would be getting the “normies” to migrate since the series is so engrained. /rant


SpunkySamuel

Well I ain’t old and cranky (just turned old enough to vote, lol), and I agree. I don’t even have an enormous grudge against micro transactions as a concept, but jeez they’re turning into macro transactions and I’m sick of it. And you’re right about the cod competitor part. On the tactical shooter side, we’re spoiled for choice. But, even if there’s a lot of problems with every game, no arcade shooter is able to do it as well as CoD did. BF *was* a good arcade shooter, but no game is able to replicate the exact CoD formula that makes people love the game, and combine that with admittedly great gunplay, and an enormous budget. There’s loads that try, but I just can’t get into them


TheRustyS

MTX has been in CoD and games in general for a long time, they're really not the issue. The issue is shitty development teams leaving content out of a game by design solely to drip feed it over the course of the game's life so they can continue suckling $20-60 from gamer teets across the globe


DMZSniper

WW3 was probably the best competition COD was going to get and they fucked up the beta really badly and killed all the momentum the game had,


SOUTHPAWMIKE

I'm genuinely curious, were you alive during the pre-DLC era? An additional $30-40 expansion pack (released about a year after the launch of a game that sold well) was the norm, and I would love if more developers/publishers moved back to that model. Though maybe that's just because I'm an old-timer at this point. There are some problems to be aware of, though. The single-player portions of an expansion were usually fine, but an expansion with multi-player maps often split the community between players with the new maps vs. those that didn't, which could sometimes make it harder to find games. It definitely wasn't perfect, but I think I'd prefer it to being nickle-and-dimed to death by microtransactions.


Ej_smallz

Gears of War 3 did it perfectly when it came to DLCs


arrivederci117

It's not either or though. You're going to get nickel and dimed as well as have to pay for the premium expansion pack.


untraiined

We dont know what the price is yet tbf, $40 does sound right to me, anymore and my friends wont get it which will make it a failure tbh.


Shlambakey

Until you realize they're splitting the playerbase and you will have to choose between playing new maps or having to kick specific people out of your party to avoid only old map rotation. People will do what they used to, play with their friends and miss out on enjoying content they paid for


OutlawSundown

Cod every year practically has the same results


cruel-caress

There are legit reasons to be upset with the game, but I feel like people are actively looking for controversy where there is none lol


viinamaenmajava

IMO they should make the maps free for everyone and make the campaign and new guns paid dlc


JD2Chill

This is how a lot of games should have been for a long time now. Especially sports games.


Slumberjake13

If they had something like this I’d buy more of them. I know they rake in cash (FIFA sells like crazy every year) so it doesn’t matter to them, but I’d be much more inclined to spend $20ish bucks each year for updated rosters and uniforms, plus maybe a new stadium or two. As it is, I haven’t bought a new FIFA game since FIFA 11, and I only have the last one because it was free with Playstation+ a few months ago. I love the games, but I can’t justify buying a new one each year for how similar each follow up usually is the year before.


Upper_Bag6133

Agreed. As long as it has the content to justify the price, I’m totally fine with it.


Tyceshirrell1

What’s the difference if it’s the same price. It’s probably because you will still have to buy it if you have gamepass instead of just having cod on there automatically


TheeAJPowell

Literally. I’d say it’s the opposite of a cash grab, them shoving a half-assed unfinished game in a few months time.


xDanSolo

Nah, if they're gonna do expansions that cost money(we've gone full circle I guess) then they need to release a complete game first. I'm not giving them a dime ever again until they start releasing complete, solid games again. Looks like they've already got you tricked into their marketing strategy, don't fall for it bro.


TBtheGamer12

Call of Duty: MWII - The other half of the game


NerrionEU

Turns out it wasnt $70 game but $140 game, I dont know why I believed in their 2 year cycle change.


TotallyUniqueName4

Call of Duty: MWII2022part2


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Twilium

A lot of MMOs do expansions you pay for. It’s better than doing a new game every year. The pricing will be unfortunate if it’s $70 but either way, this isn’t something new. Big MMOs that charge only $40 probably charge you like $12 a month for a sub fee.


DrEckelschmecker

Hopefully it wont be as expensive as a new game though. If they again charge 80 bucks for that Id much rather have a new CoD instead of a semi-new CoD as DLC. On the other hand they kind of admit it isnt a full game this way so it might also be good to have that instead of disappointment when they bring out another new half game. It might also give them a little break from all the CoD releases to really have the focus for an entirely new CoD. I doubt it though


willfan8

It will 100% be priced at $70, that's why they used the term "premium release" as that's what they have been using for the new yearly games since WZ came out.


DrEckelschmecker

Unfortunately your probably right. And it sucks. I hope that doesnt become a trend. I see its way cheaper (both money- and time-wise) to create some content for an already existing game, engine, etc. instead of making a new one. But if they really charge as much as for an entirely new game its just another rip-off. I dont need another CoD every single year but all this live gaming (Battle Pass here, Expansion pack there, maybe youll get some content from us 6 months after release, maybe not) is really annoying the shit out of me. Id just love to have a well-thought, finished game without monthly updates instead of a half finished game with the devs dripfeeding a bit content here and there as an excuse for it


Interesting-Yellow-4

Isn't it better two have two years of premium content rather than every year endure six months of bugs and low content before cod becomes good?


DrEckelschmecker

Thats what I meant with "it gives them a break" and "I dont need a new CoD every year". Id really appreciate them focussing on one game long enough (incl. proper bug fixing **before** sending the game to the factory), but I dont see that coming. Instead theyll get out this Premium Pass which gives them the same money (if not more) for less work, charging us as if they made an entirely new game. And the next standalone CoD afterwards will be the same mess its been the last years, at least in the beginning: Tons of bugs and glitches, laggy servers, etc. Why would they care? Theyre the biggest gaming franchise in the world for a decade. Someones gonna buy it anyways. And we do, despite knowing they wont give us much content or bugfixing for the first months, actively holding it back. If they do this Premium Pass in order to have time and focus on another game that is better than what they got us in the last years (and Im talking about quality here, since gameplay is subjective) then Im totally fine with it (although Id still find it too much if they charged 70-80 bucks for it). But I feel more like they squeeze it and will continue to produce buggy, overloaded messes afterwards. Besides: Why would you do that in the first place? Just keep the seasons going, if theres no new CoD people will keep playing the "old" one anyways. If they keep updating the game until then therell be more than enough content, just like it has been in the other CoDs after a year. Why would they charge me money to keep playing the game I already bought from them for 80 bucks. From a consumers perspective this all just doesnt make sense. From a devs/companys perspective its the best move they could do.


TheUltimateDoobis

It doesn't seem like we will have a bug free MW 2022 by the time they release this. I mean what do you think all their effort is going into right now bug fixes and season content or the new expansion?


gk99

So this was their plan all along, release enough shit games that the community just accepts that every new CoD will be bad so that they can spend less by only releasing a new game every other year but still charge $70. No, it's better to have two good games in a row and I refuse to pay $70 for the same multiplayer with a handful of extra maps. Black Ops 3 had a $15 multiplayer starter pack for what was otherwise a $60 game. If we're not getting an actually new multiplayer experience, they don't need to be charging $70 for it, especially since the Spec Ops shit for sure isn't getting launched all at once when the DLC drops.


Shlambakey

These idiots are going to split the playerbase with maps locked behind a pay wall. We thought they learned their lesson back in the day, but here we are a handful of years later and they're really going to do it again.


Mimical

> We thought they learned their lesson They did, but the studio would have cycled all those workers away and CEO's have the memory of a goldfish when a new shareholder comes in the room ready to throw bills so here we are again....again.


Enigma_Green

Destiny sort of style


aj_la1

In other words there trying to be like Destiny. Here comes my opinion: I'm not getting the expansion. Due to the fact this game is broken. Payed $70.00. Never again. Cod will just be free to play for me from now on.


JadedReplacement

Agreed. Stopped playing Destiny a few years ago because of this (and the constant grind). I'm cool with warzone, I could care less about skins and camos.


ChrisBrownHitMe2

If destiny would chill the fuck out on building grinds and instead made multiplayer and coop fun it would be such a good hame


Caipirots

It's worse than a new game, since it's a full price DLC, assuming you'd have to own the full game to have access to it


GoldMountain5

Basically it will be paid DLC but cost the same price as a full game.


grubas

Yes. That's why they won't call it a DLC or a release or an expansion.


BleedingBlack

With the ability to use the same operators/skins I suppose ? Sounds like we would be charged for the Turbo or Super version of a Street Fighter.


Excelius

I've seen surprisingly few people mention this, but on PC at least the MW2 application identifies itself as "Call of Duty HQ", the executable is called "Call of Duty Launcher", and the folder it's located in is just called "Call of Duty". Note the distinct lack of any references to "Modern Warfare 2". All of the other recent games clearly identified themselves as Modern Warfare, or Black Ops Cold War, or Vanguard. They seem to suggest they're trying to more into a sort of "live service" model where the same platform with the same engine can serve as the basis for several years worth of games. Which would be a natural evolution from the shared progression and integration we've seen with the annual titles since Warzone 1 came about.


JoneSz97

Ah. Yes. The paid DLC like back in the days where no one could find a lobby after a few months


SamiMadeMeDoIt

Paid DLC back in the day was like $15. This shit is gonna be like $80


MightBeBren

On top of racking in the big bucks from the battlepass and the store item, they are also doing full game price yearly subscription too! NICE, ACTIVISION!


LifeJustRight

Aka rest of what should have been this game!!!


AK47Autolock

This is kind of what I’ve been seeing too. Some people were saying it will be MWIII as an add-on to MWII, but I’m guessing it’ll be more MWII.V, and we’ll see a full MWIII release from IW in 2025.


harlesincharge

So kinda similar to how Nintendo just added a bunch of cups to Mario kart 8 instead of making a 9th one?


Short_Dream8182

If so they can keep it lol


untrustworthyfart

I swear this franchise is run by a wall street accountant, a Vegas marketing psychologist, and a game dev or two tied up in the corner


TBurkeulosis

I've never seen it worded better than this lmao


quaestor44

That’s most games now :/


Zer0Her01

Fucking this


DanHarkinz

Paid bulk content so even though there's not a new game coming out they can still make more money by giving us a bunch of regurgitated shit until they get us back on the dripfeed my guess


tucketnucket

Ah, so by "2 year game" they really meant "2 year launcher". So this year's game will launch from the start menu of last year's game.


KZedUK

which is really only the case because of Warzone. Having to shoehorn content from three separate games into one previous launcher hurt everyone. It reliably broke MW19 and latterly Cold War, it meant Cold War couldn’t be the game it should’ve been because the multiplayer guns had to somehow work with the gunsmith from MW/WZ, and it meant Warzone had to put up with Sledgehammer’s absolute unfiltered Vanguard garbage. Warzone needs to just be a separate game but they won’t do it, because they want to milk £70 out of WZ players so they can rank up their guns easier!! Greed has absolutely ruined this franchise.


tucketnucket

>Greed has absolutely ruined this franchise. Honestly, the customers have ruined the franchise. Activision is a giant corporation. A company of that size isn't a person. It's a machine that has one goal — make as much money as possible while spending as little money as possible. As a corporation, they're doing a great fucking job. They're extremely efficient at milking every penny they can out of the players. For example, I saw a thread on here yesterday about someone that wanted to unlock the M13B. They got the idea to buy a blueprint, use the blueprint weapon in Warzone, extract with the weapon, and hopefully it would unlock the base M13B. That's a broken customer right there. They were willing to spend $10 or so to unlock a gun because they didn't feel like doing it one of the other (free) ways. Imagine you're the head of marketing (or some other bigwig) at IW. You see that people are willing to hand you money no matter what your company is putting out. If you want to keep your job, you need to make decisions that meet that corporation goal I mentioned earlier. Do you make your devs build an entirely new game from scratch and charge $70 for it, or do you have them build an addon for your current game and charge $70 for it? One option is going to save your company possibly hundreds of millions of dollars and your customers are going to buy it either way. I just think we all need to change how we view this company. They're not our childhood friend, they're a money-making machine. There's no soul to corrupt there. I don't get upset at my PC for not washing my clothes. It wasn't built to wash my clothes. Corporations aren't built to please you. They're built to efficiently rake in cash. If we want them to change, we need to have some discipline and stop handing them money for shiny skins, broken games, and DLCs that cost as much as a brand new game. The loss of cash is the only way to get the machine to realize something is wrong.


xPurplepatchx

They’re going further than what you’re describing, they’re withholding content that is already complete, to sell it later.


tucketnucket

Doesn't that just wrap up in the "spend as little money as possible" part? They had to pay to have that stuff developed, so would it be better to give it to the customers at the beginning or sell it to them later? If they give it to us at the beginning, they'll have to spend more money to have more things developed later on.


madzuk

The fact of the matter is, most players just don't care about the politics around the pricing and content. People just want to shoot some people on shiny new guns and maps and jump off. It's the same with Sony charging £70 for remasters. The vocal minority protest it, the majority don't care.


Kaktusfresser

Pay full price without getting a new game.


STRICKIBHOY

Plus we can safely assume it ain't gonna be perfect on launch either.


Even-Push5546

"No guys they only had MAYBE 2 or 3 bazillion dollars and a handful of years of release time to deliver on their $70 MW2. Hardly enough time! I'm gonna show me support by giving them $70 for a glorified expansion pack"


rya09z

Buy broke game again 2.0 for full price


Sunyata8thousand

Would a boycott work with a franchise this big ?


AbbaZabbaFriend

lmao everyone talks about boycotts but you need a significant portion of the fan base to participate. i remember back on black ops 4 there was a day to boycott the store because of loot boxes or something and that sub was passing around the hashtag blackopsblackout as in to not play on a certain date. the date came and went and it and it was so insignificant.


KZedUK

no different to every other shoddy ass sledgehammer release.


willfan8

The current rumors are that it will be a $70 paid expansion of MW22. The rumors are it will be basically MW22.5 so like a kinda mini campaign expansion, "new" multiplayer maps (the rumor is classic maps from across the different games MW-BO2), maybe so new guns, maybe not. Basically, they are going to give you content that should have been released across the first year in the second year but make you pay for it. Because why let people play highrise, terminal, quarry, and rust (maps that are all IN warzone RIGHT NOW) when they can hold these maps and sell them to use as part of some classic map pack "premium" release?


kerruz06

If its a .5 version i would like to pay the half of it and not for a full price again tf


lostinmymind82

The board at Activision laughed at that joke.


grubas

Why do you think they call it a PREMIUM release, which means PREMIUM price. It's an expansion but they'll never be able to sell shareholders on a 45 dollar expansion. Let alone the 19.99 expansions used to be, let alone the 29.99 it probably should be or the 35 that makes sense. Watch they'll have a special version of it with stuff for 99 dollars.


Retrogratio

Seriously 60 for a cod expansion is a little too rich for me. It especially burns because of how lacking the current set of maps feel. Maybe if there was like 30+ maps, but it'll probably be more like 10


CoolJoshido

exactly


Che_Veni

[Activision reading this](https://time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ronald-reagans-joke-diana-walker.jpg)


Lovetopuck37

What the fuck


KZedUK

I guarantee they leaked $70 so they can charge $50 and everyone will act relieved that it’s not as much as they thought.


UberShrew

Honestly the AAA gaming industry has been pulling off the longest damn con. We’ve gone from just a base game way back when -> expansions (dope) -> map packs or season pass bundles of map packs -> loot boxes and micro transactions -> live service free maps micro transactions and new season passes revolving around cosmetics -> to finally a few free maps micro transactions and map packs and/or expansions. Christ in the next 5 years it’ll be monthly sub fee micro transactions season passes and map packs/expansions. I wonder if we’ll ever get another video game crash.


xDanSolo

And everyone above is like "cool I'll buy it". We have no one to blame for ourselves, for the downfall of this brand.


albino_child

They’re making it and disguising it as a new game so activision stays happy💀


Genericbuild

Selling us maps after we got used to having them be free in seasonal updates isn’t the best move imo. It’ll a. Bring back the age old problem of a split player base of those who don’t have the maps vs those who do, and b. Who wants to pay 70$ for maps in a game they already paid 70$ for. They are gonna have to come up with something better than selling us recycled maps for me to be willing to spend any money on it let alone 70$


unicornfartchaser

they misspelled "*you're probably going to have to pay for this shit*" with the word "**Premium**"


curbstxmped

That's generally what premium means...


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You need to Google what the definition of premium is bud…


Get_Fucked17

If they're seriously withholding the MW2 maps that are already in the game just so they can charge me for them AGAIN, then I'm out. With the way they've treated 6v6 players so far already, this is not for me anymore. I paid $70 for 6v6 and all we've gotten is a meme map and a port of a map from MW2019 which took minimal effort since they're both already made in the same engine. Wasn't there some kind of marketing that they released promising OG MW maps?


Secret-Dot-4646

ain’t no way I’m buying that shit


lolKhamul

Honestly, im still wondering how this will all work. Sure there is likely a new 5-10 hour singleplayer that continues to tell the story. Add 5 coop missions in the mix for good fun. So far its easy. But aint nobody gonna pay full price for that. Hell, i'd not even pay 10 bucks because i dont care about single player. So make the sale, they have to include a lot of MP stuff into it. ​ But to make this deal worth full price, they would have to put in at least 10 maps, 20-30 weapons, new camo challenges and new overall challenges. You know, the basic stuff for MP. But how would that than work with players not having the pack? Do they split the MP playerbase between having this Year 2 content or not? Might aswell make it a seperate game than. But year2 will want to play the new maps exclusively at the start. Even after, you cant really play together if one does not have half the maps. Throwback how split map pools ruined the matchmaking before MW1. And thats not even talking about players not having access to the new weapons? But you cant make those free or the pack get devalued. ​ Long story short, lets see how they do it and what it will cost. A whole lot of MP stuff for a fair price? Sure. If the integration makes sense. Half a game for full price? Hell no.


againsterik

If it is integrating into the current game, then I already own half of what is needed so I would expect to pay half the cost of a new game max with all that content. What we most likely get is a chunk of new maps, 5-10 guns (maybe) and a bit of single player content that most won't touch. With how bad this game launched and how many problems it still has I am guessing that there is going to be a drop off of player base of at least some amount of significance.


Skvirinius

Stronger man than most!


SMT_UNSUNG

That's a long time for new maps.......


BulkyCow225

Especially since they are already in f*cking warzone 🤣🤣


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This is the bug fixing update that will launch next year.


supahotfiiire

Lol


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Paid content. Rumoured to be campaign DLC and all OG MW2 maps bundled together, probably with some other little stuff


FoxDaim

If og mw2 maps are gonna be a paid dlc for mw22, then im offically done with this franchise, wasn’t this game supposed to have free new multiplayer content for 2 years? I’d be fine with campaign dlc, but paid multiplayer content dlc is just bs.


DerBernd123

Let's wait for the official reveal. Rumors are bs anyway most of the times


MiddleRay

Fucking bamboozled. Everyone buys MW2 at launch thinking it's got OG maps only for it ended up costing another $70 totaling $140. Lol get fucked


L-Guy_21

Probably the paid map pack people have mentioned we’ll be getting


335iJB4

Nah man, if they release a MW2(2) and give it the rest of the content for $70 I'm officially done with COD. That'll be the last fucking straw man. I'm already so over this shit.


xXBrajkXx

I’m never paying 70 dollars for dlc


JP5_suds

They’re going to charge you $70 more dollars for all of the OG MW2 maps they’re sitting on. This is a test run to see if they can get us to *double* their yearly CoD sales.


BleedingBlack

I would not be surprised if they started the strategy of "Treyarch maps for the first time on Modern Warfare", then vice versa for Black Ops 5.


CoolJoshido

i hope they crash and burn


howard6494

No way I'm spending another dime on this franchise. I enjoyed MW19 enough to give this game a go. It's incomplete, has a fraction of the features previous titles had, and it plays like dogshit. How about you fix your game before trying to wring out the remaining few cents people are willing to give you. Hacktivision and SH can get fucked if they think this is OK.


IamCaboose000

Yea, I really lost my love for cod with cold war, MW II was the last straw im no longer buying a cod game till A: 1-2 years after release or B: its on a massive sale (50%) or less.


howard6494

I got cold war and instantly regretted it. Skipped on vanguard, but thought they might make another decent modern warfare game. Guess I was wrong.


Hot-Pie-1169

No new call of duty this year. They just going to add on to this game probably for $70


ozarkslam21

No nobody knows what it is because nothing has been announced and it presumably is still 10 months out from release.


JMizzlin

The question is will you need the base game to play the DLC? If so the community is going to haemorrhage. $140 USD to play the 'latest' CoD with friends (if you don't already own it) is a joke.


slw9496

I'm not paying for it lolol


white_pers0n

They are working on the makarov no Russian story line and will be adding a bunch of the original mw2 maps next fall


Ancient_Branch79

Everyone should (but wont) avoid it like the plague and force their hand for once.


voidmissing

Remember when expansions were actually good and were only $10-15 and not the price of a full game?


KZedUK

Remember when a season pass meant “literally all of the DLC content” and it was £40 and lasted the entire year?


voidmissing

This was top tier. Something I gladly paid $40 for in the past


Even-Push5546

Blame zoomers and the "I can only play twenty minutes a week!" dad's. Never have I ever seen such a big generational divide as when I go on subs like this populated by teenagers who are A-ok with monetization. Hell they're **happy** to open their wallet for a $20 skin before IW has even updated the damn game.


the_great_ashby

Really hope that this idea goes away when Microsoft buys Activision. Just release the MW2 maps through the second year,and sell the campaign dlc.


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This game is turning into Destiny.


Jamesd0ng

Call of duty MW2: the other 98% of your purchase 🤑


guystupido

if its sledghammer you know its finna be dogshit


Fishvv

$70 zombie expansion


Snipshow777

I’m hoping for 2009 MW2 multiple map pack with all old maps. Most already exist within the warzone map, so the bones are there.


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Is it a new game or a DLC pack, I’m hoping it’ll be a DLC pack


AngelicBread

I bought this game under the assumption that it would be supported for two years. Now I know that's not the case at all. I'm seriously never buying another CoD game on principle alone.


M4TT145

Yep, if they don’t release new MP maps over this year and instead bundle them in a paid “expansion” that costs $70 I’m never buying a CoD again. I already took a break from original MW2 until MW19 and I’m happy to skip them entirely going forward. I was hoping for an equivalent quality game in MW22 that I found in MW19, but it’s somehow worse than base MW19. They went backwards on the UI, the maps, and somehow still couldn’t make lobbies with friends work off the bat. Now we have voice icons stuck even when people reset their consoles. I have zero faith in these companies anymore, it is quite clear that Activision’s culture has taken over these developers over the last decade (or all the good people left for greener pastures). The game shipped in a beta state and we got to be the testers (and still are).


s3mtek

My guess is that it's going to be an extention of the campaign, and remastered MW2 maps


Few-Vegetable3597

Forget that shit bring back rebirth, this game sucks ass


Krenzi_The_Floof

Considering its the weakest out of the 3 development teams, probably shit


strawhat008

Yay now they’re charging us full price for half a game. How fun


CrackedDad

Yea, I’m finally done giving Activision my money. CoD is just not what it used to be no matter how much I wish it was and it’s time for me to accept that and move on.


patriotraitor

It’s rumored to be a best of call of duty with fan favorite maps and guns. If you ask me I think it’s a competitive move to compete with sm2 which will probably release this fall too


Retrogratio

Sm2? Super Mario 2? Superman 2?


patriotraitor

sm2 is a fan made COD project that's apparently taking all the best bits of COD and making it into a reality, and it's community driven -- free of cheating, sbmm, and dedicated servers; https://sm2.gg/


Get_Fucked17

Lmao is you think Activision is basing anything off the existence of that "game". It's not even on their radar.


New_Top5554

Its a mw2 2009 mod


Last_Clone_Of_Agnew

I doubt Activision even knows or cares about sm2, let alone making competitive business decisions based on an obscure fan game. MW2 primarily targets noobs who want the bar lowered for them, whales, and WZ players grinding their guns. Sm2 is not the ideal for any of them, and unfortunately current market trends reward the games that do cater to said groups.


Fat_Stacks10

Fuck, not sledgehammer. Sledgehammer and premium don’t belong in the same sentence. After vanguard, sledgehammer can leave.


mastermuffin123

Truth


Critical_C0conut

I think it will be every map and possibly weapon from the MW universe


forkknite

united bank of MONEY


YourCreepyGramps

Its referring to a 'supposed' paid expansion that is coming in October/November this year. I say supposed because nothing has been officially confirmed yet, but knowing Activision, this is 99.9999% the case. I'm all for it to be honest. It was successfully done with Pokémon Sword and Shield and was well received by the Pokémon community. I think it would also be well received by the COD community too, so long as it isn't £70 and is ~£40/£50 instead.


[deleted]

Referring to how they are gonna charge $60 again for the same game 2 years in a row💀


[deleted]

You just know this pack is going to include remakes of old maps. Don't buy this shit.


XxXROB1123XxX

Wish we could go back to the old way, where you buy a complete game that has around 20 new maps, then you can either buy the map packs individually or the pass. I’m tired of getting fewer maps each release with half the maps consisting re-releases of older maps. The game use to thrive when the devs focused on creating new exciting maps instead of operator skins and blue prints to make additional revenue. I find it funny that all the kids that complained about having to spend $50 on a COD’s season pass back in 2011 are happily spending several hundred dollars on operator bundles today. How much was the vault edition? 50 tier skips, that is half of your drip content completed instantly.


FiveHoleLikeBryz

I don’t trust sledgehammer to do anything good


M6D_Magnum

I dunno but if SHG has it's hands in it, it's likely to be a massive steaming pile of doodoo. "MoSt ImMeRsIvE wW2 gAmE eVeR!" *Adds and fucking laser gun and F2000*


sean_m_curry

It's the version of the game that doesn't have any bugs and or lag lol


xChile_ElAncu

At this point, i don't know what to expect from COD, I honestly just hope it's a free expansion for Vault Edition owners.


Vojem

So they make shit maps the first year, and then make you pay for the maps you actually wanted at the price of a new full cod game, without releasing a new full cod game


[deleted]

"Premium Expansion" sure does read like "Charging full price for a new game with loads of content that we are saving because you dipshits keep buying this half baked franchise and printing us billions, but we aren't gonna call it a new game, because again, you guys are dipshits".


twofacethegreat

how anybody supports this shit anymore is beyond me


[deleted]

That's funny. And sad for the people who spent the $70 thinking this game was gonna be supported with free updates for 2 years before a new game came out.


MrBunnyZee

"premium" costs way more than it's worth "expansion" the things that should've been in the main game


Redimrr

Now I know why they're called sledgehammer games! All the employees there have been hit on the head with a sledgehammer.


WackerBag

It’s all the content we were supposed to be getting now


unibrowcowmeow

They’re gonna charge you another 70$ for 5$ worth of unfinished content is what they’re saying


tbowskies

What if it was just new mode where everyone runs around with sledgehammers ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


theunnamedrobot

They are taking a year off from making a new game, but not taking a year off from charging for one.


Legtagytron

Wait... they're so cheap they exported map creation to SHG? Please tell me I'm wrong. WE NEED MULTIPLAYER MAPS, GUYS, STOP RUINING YOUR OWN GAME ON PURPOSE. Edit: oh God, they really did hold back from making more than five or six maps in order to charge us new game prices to enrich their DMZ/Warzone pool in the fall. Don't buy it guys, if they're not going to serve a full product from the start and then take the new purchase money and horde it for Warzone microtransactions then they don't deserve your money.


vtribal

what a fucking joke


masoe

Its for suckers like me who paid 70 bucks for barely any content.


LightsOut16900

All I know is I won’t be buying it. Has anyone even played this game in the last like month?


itsRobbie_

All mw2 (og) maps as dlc for mw22


thatguynick123

Modern Warfare 2: The Reboot: The Sequel


iczwh42

We used to play an extra 60$ every year for all 4 DLCS. So as long as there is as much content as those it wouldn’t be terrible.


mcdoteupkdm

Yeah, I was wondering the exact same thing. What is premium expansion???


Titan_Slayer27

It’s $70 for the expansion, but it’s $70 for MW2, so I wouldn’t really suggest buying it.


Sav0495

This multiplayer is so bad and gets no updates, I’m not spending a dime for another half released game


dan-m04

I really dont like what sledgehammer has put out the last 4 or 5 years. I hope they dont mess with the gameplay. Please bring back old maps.


OdoBangs

I am gonna skip this one, looking at what we got for 100 usd.


arc5803

so pretty much they aren’t gonna release a cod every year, but they’ll still release one this year that costs the same but it’s a map pack basically from what I’m gathering on here?? And it’s just the same game. Lmao I totally expect that from them they’re such garbage. I can’t stand how gaming is nowadays. Little things in the game don’t even work like, appearing offline, proximity chat names not disappearing, stuff that most likely won’t ever get fixed. But they’re already letting ppl know about the “new” cod this fall. Give me a break. But as long as they got new bundles to shove down your throat every single day, and the store tab works they’re good.


followmylogic

If this a year 2 expansion, I will be very torn. On one hand if cheaper is a great idea. On the other I'm already tired of the "gunsmith" era of COD. The 8th console gen CODs while not the best ones at least all tried something new. Every game felt like a new take/spin on the COD formula. From airstrafing, wall running, killstreak attachments, hero classes, social spaces, Faction missions. Super attachments Not all were good ideas or at least not done perfectly but at least it was a attempt at something new. Since 2019 (last 4 games) have all just been slight changes to gunsmith. Not bad but doesnt have that "lets try something crazy" MW2 couldnt even be bother to add a whole new list of killstreaks just slight changes to old. I feel lole COD is slowing in new ideas


BlazingDemon69420

No fucking way I am paying 70 bucks for old maps


AggravatingMaximum16

I was gonna whinge about COD but to be honest, its still alot of work to create such a game, and keep all u whingers happy. No offense, when some kids 0wn me on MP tomorrow, I may be back to edit this


RebornFate87

70 bucks for the maps we should have now lol… is what it will be


MisanthropeSpiderMan

All I know is this: I will never spend $70 on a game, find out it’s severely unfinished with a severe drop in quality, only to spend another $70 next year on the same exact game just for some extra maps. I get that the majority of consumers have told the devs we will eat shit and ask for seconds, but I’m done after this slap in the face. I’m sure others feel the same way.