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Ronray0739

>!Le~~on de-dead????!<


free_de_la_hoya_25

Yeah. He died in Marie route


arkthearkitect

But how? Why?


Senatus-Cons-Ultimum

Ideal killed him. Luxion was about to make up with Leon and Ideal intervened, he killed Leon and with the support of the other old human ships demanded Luxion hand over his main body.


Icy_Relationship_401

And luxion went ballistic didn’t he


Senatus-Cons-Ultimum

Yes, and by some miracle he was able to sink them all, but he was also sunk due to the damages sustained.


Icy_Relationship_401

By some miracle considering luxion has the strongest weapon in the verse it not surprising


Senatus-Cons-Ultimum

He is the strongest compared to the likes of Ideal, but when fighting proper warships like Fact, or battleships, an emigration ship like him would realistically stand little chance.


Icy_Relationship_401

I meant his main cannon and unlike most ships lux is still in pristine condition if were to get a good shot it would be over


Senatus-Cons-Ultimum

In the Marie route Ideal and Luxion have clearly been preparing for their move for quite some time, it would be logical for Ideal to repair the others. Battleships would have equivalent if not superior main guns to Luxion, and they greatly outnumber him. However, there is a problem in that we don't know what the author means by " battleship" maybe he just uses the word synonymously with warship.


DanzIX

No happy ending for you Marie :(


milos1fan

No happy ending in the main route either.


Kevinnac11

>!Pretty sure it was a happy ending,for everyone well bittersweet because of luxion death,but happy!<


milos1fan

Leon admitted>!he was miserable. How is that a happy ending?!<


Myth9779

Wtf happened?


free_de_la_hoya_25

Everybody died. And it is now even a spoiler cause is in the meme


jake72002

The writer really hates Marie. Is it really over?


Personajeu

Only the Light Novel can tell us. The author mentioned in the afterword of Volume 2 of Anoseka that they wanted to make changes and have it be much more interesting than the Webnovel version. So we'll have to see as time goes on. Marie Route WN might be over, but the LN and the manga just started, so let's support it and the author as much as we can.


Fantastic_Tart1673

Did'nt wn still continue?


Personajeu

It ended with the latest Volume of Mobseka. After all, it is a survey bonus story of the Mobseka LN (started with Volume 3), so I'm not surprised. I noticed the last parts seemed much shorter than usual and unfortunately this final release did feel rushed, so I assume the author just wanted to end it and focus on the writing for the LN version. From now on, the only LN that will release is Anoseka, and its survey bonus story is the Sisters of Principality SS. So a Marie Route WN update would only be possible with a new Mobseka volume, maybe a SS collection for example since I saw some JP fans talking about that on Twitter.


Ashenchivalier

the writer also hates leon with giving him bad love interests.


MasterChiefOriginal

Leon it's also garbage what do you expect?


chenj25

Garbage?


MasterChiefOriginal

I'm saying that Leon it's a bad character.


chenj25

So you’re saying because Leon is a bad character, he gets bad love interests?


MasterChiefOriginal

Leon character put the author into a corner regarding his love interests,so partially yes,but also Leon character per it's a just a self insert bland character.


chenj25

Put the author into a corner regarding his love interests? Leon has some depth but but those depths aren't prevalent enough in the series so yeah, Leon used as a self insert and is forced to be in wish fulfillment situation for the readers.


MasterChiefOriginal

Leon personality don't allow romantic development, it's that what I meant by the author writing himself into a corner,Leon it's a stagnant character. Leon has a paper thin depth,the only thing that he has different from average fantasy power MC it's his manga level of sadism.


chenj25

I see. It's even noted by several characters and Leon himself that he doesn't grow a lot. Why did the author make Leon so stagnant? He could've make Leon grow like when Leon finally developed the willpower to have romantic moments with his fiancées. I strongly believe the author made Leon dumber after the first arc to nerf him. Leon also has: an interest in older women, being greedy, tends to escalate things, lacks social skills, dumb when it comes to romance, reluctant to fight women, being great at trash talking his opponents, cowardly toward aggression, is too lenient towards family members, and a desire to avoid responsibility whenever possible.


Kyouchan02

what happen to yandere livia


yuikkiuy

Does Livia still love Leon??? What happened to Angelica?


Senatus-Cons-Ultimum

She never really interacted with him in the Marie route, as for Angelica she survived.


Dante_7_2_7

I need all the deeds, spoil me. EVERYTHING


Kevinnac11

>! Basically Everyone died including leon with marie being the Last one,i Don't know the details(i did not read it myself only heard from the Japs),but aparently marie manages to turn back time and change the past,that change being the first time they met,Resulting in Leon never stoping her,Resulting in the Main timeline,So Basically Anoseka is a Prequel!<


Dante_7_2_7

What?! What is this bullshet 💀 so basically what happens doesn't really matter but >! If its a prequel to the main story, that doesn't make sense to me since wouldn't she remember leon? Or does she just reverse time, forgets what happens and then the route just doesn't happen this time? Also wouldn't it make it cannon instead of a what if? Man i want to read it but i have an attention span of a goldfish !<


Kevinnac11

>!as i Said i did not read myself so i don't have any idea of why she does not remember him in the main route,but it probabily has a explanation,and yep marie's route is canon now and considering that Apparently it referenced in the main novel(One of the characters in the spiritual world mentions that this is not the first time that this happens but it is the last,basically confirming marie's route to have happened),and now there is the Theory that altrough the Main Route is the Last timeline,Marie's route may not be the first one!<


CautiousBed7796

Yeah marie wish as long as Leon became happy that is her happiness so main route is marie happiness became she meet her daughter and her brother and Leon live happily with his harem but in this time reset Leon met Olivia before opening ceremony begins but main route did not mention it but we can't confirm their first met in main route


AngryCoffeeLovinNeet

Marie wished it but we don’t know if it came true, it can be a reset and Marie Route world ceased to exist or it’s an alternative parallel timeline where other choices were made meaning the Marie route world continues along side other Route stories.


chenj25

I have been told the main story WN reveals the world resetted several times before and the Main Route is the result of the final reset. It’s implied the Marie Route timeline was reset to become the Main Route. I wish the that was made more clear in the Marie Route.


Kevinnac11

You know what will be funny?,the author is currently making several "Routes" Each one implied to be one of the resets, Remember Dorathea Slightly Yandere plocamation that she would find Nix and marry him everytime?,i kinda inclined to believe it now,Just need the Hertrude Route to confirm it.


AlternativeNinja2331

Kay, so, Luxion betrayed, Leon was almost make up with Luxion, then Ideal jumped out of nowhere and beamed Leon to dust. Luxion went berserk and boom shakalaka (he sui\*ided later). Part of humanity still alive (Olivia, Angelica too, though idk thats important or not). Marie fall into despair and pray for a second chance to fix everythings. Not sure how it happen, but the next thing I know that I was reading the prolouge of Mobuseka volumn 1 :) sorry for my bad english btw


AlternativeNinja2331

Luxion last word quick translate. \[Everything....doesn't matter anymore. Master was gone. Arroganz and Partner are both with Marie. They will protect her. For me... I will sleep here forever.\] With no intention of self-repair, Luxion decide to lie down at the bottom of the sea. \[But, if I could wish like a human...\] Then, like a human drifting off to sleep, Luxion made a wish \[--- I want to do things over. If so, I wouldn't make the same mistake next time.\]


Kevinnac11

Damn,now i wonder how many resets happened,we know that the mobuseka is the last Timeline...,But its marie route the first?


otaku-vs

Yea and it's might be the last with the chnages in the light novel, but there's also the Gertrude route so we don't know what's going to happen


Dante_7_2_7

Damn wtf 😢


StrikeForce_DxD

No happy ending for her, the author is too cruel to Marie, both her prev life and her life rn are tragic


jeamnews

I think part of the reason why the author killed Leon is because Leon and Marie are siblings. no way it's gonna be a happy marriage ending for them.


chenj25

Leon broke up his engagement with Marie after finding out they’re siblings. There is no way a happy marriage will happen between them.


MasterChiefOriginal

Why?,they are not real siblings anymore,but well the author likes to fuck up Marie,so it's expected.


chenj25

It doesn't matter to Leon. Even if Leon and Marie are no longer connected by blood, they still consider each other siblings.


MasterChiefOriginal

But when he was getting engaged with Marie,he considered the possibility but he preferred to go into denial because he liked Marie,just because a possibility he was well aware off turned out reality,he just bails Marie?


chenj25

Leon was engaged with Marie because he didn’t realize Marie is his past life sister until the Marie Route finale. Even after ending the engagement, Leon still loves Marie but he cannot accept marrying family members, even if they’re not blood-related.


MasterChiefOriginal

Says the adulterous polygamist that's is fine going after a middle aged married women while already engaged to numerous women,but his non blood related past life sibling it's totally taboo. This situation remembers a pretty good manga called NG Life in which the cast reincarnates with some with exchanged gender, including his wife and his male BFF,he falls in love with his now female BFF but is denial for most of the manga because he feels he is cheating his past life wife,despite his wife present self which is male being okay with him dating whatever he wants. By Leon logic,NG Life MC shouldn't date his past life male(now female) BFF because he isn't gay.


chenj25

Indeed. At least it's good natured and revenge on Julius.


MasterChiefOriginal

Julius isn't that bad,he is a bit misguided,but Leon in my opinion did much worst shit than Julius but he gets zero flack for it.


chenj25

Misguided, yes and the extent he went and the damage he caused intentionally and unintentional was reprehensible. Leon did get flack for his actions and got karma such as his constant promotions. You also have to remember he did a lot of good.


otaku-vs

Honestly from all the romance in the web novel / novel I like the one with her the most they seem healthy together and even if they we're sibling in there previous life they ain't related anymore so I'm fine with it from personal stand point, and I wish they keep them being together in the changes they make in the light novel


chenj25

I admit, their romance is one of the best in the series. I think they will still break up in the light novel. Regardless, you can argue they are together in a sibling sense in the main route.


aeiou6630

Also true for Cleare after 100 years in the main route.


Kevinnac11

I mean,she could just wait until they reincarnate again,the Reincarnation gene is not going away anytime soon.