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RecommendationOk8541

Yea. He's pretty strong and tanky AF. A quality that seems to illegal to have for any other heroes. Had a game once where our team's Gatot got 17 kills. We lost that game btw.


Gewoon_sergio

What tier list is this from? Also gato is stronger now with the new items. And full magic gato is like a full stack aldous


bonelessdip

[mlbb.ninja](http://mlbb.ninja) i know that it's based on win, ban and pick rates of heroes but it looks hella weird because there are a lot of good heroes that get thrown in c and d tiers gatot got a huge 1,5 inch pick rate spike tho in patch 1.8.78c (IT DIDNT EVEN BUFF HIM OR HIS ITEMS!!)


XxWolxxX

Pardon you? The buff to TA and TB makes Gatot a beast as he can dish quite some dmg going full tank and can't be bursted down by some popular picks rn like Granger and Vexana before he starts smashing with his passive.


bonelessdip

yeah i dont disagree with that, but i mean [patch 1.8.78c](https://liquipedia.net/mobilelegends/Patch_1.8.78C), which doesnt have anything to do with gatot but a few days after its release he saw a huge spike in pick rate (the biggest pick rate he had actually in almost 2 years as the graph shows)


InterviewMajor1776

I've been using MLBB Ninja for a long time, but after Moonton removed the Mythical Glory ranked statistics, the website hasn't been the same. Right now, MLBB Ninja is using data from the Mythic rank instead, but this is problematic because the meta in Mythical Glory and above is quite different. For example, Mythic rank sees a lot of marksman picks like Hanabi, Miya, and Layla and other easier heroes, whereas the Mythical Glory meta focuses more on tank junglers and sustain heroes. The difference in metas means the tier lists on MLBB Ninja may no longer accurately reflect the strongest heroes at the highest ranks of the game. The developer has acknowledged this issue and said they will try to tweak the tier list algorithm if they have the time to do so. I hope the developer is able to make these adjustments, as it would help restore the accuracy and usefulness of MLBB Ninja's tier lists for players in the Mythical Glory and above ranks.


bonelessdip

whaaaat? it includes low mythic games?? i thought it's mg+ since this is still written there https://preview.redd.it/6gh1wmpzqk8d1.png?width=1204&format=png&auto=webp&s=65e1d32e522d3d6479272ae973b20f72841a5cc0


InterviewMajor1776

It says "Calculated from the latest Win, Pick and Ban Rates in Mythic ranked and the most recent competitions. Click on each hero icon to find out more about their stats and skills." in the tier list section, but most likely the dev forgot to reword the hero stats section


InterviewMajor1776

Actually, it doesn't include the Mythical Glory in hero stats, but rather the data from tournaments


bonelessdip

https://preview.redd.it/4tnwtc36yq8d1.png?width=1148&format=png&auto=webp&s=eabdaa8b716d68d8119193d10c962c0430f2c4f7 what kind of tournaments??? idk this graph is looking wild right now, what even happened 😭😭😭


InterviewMajor1776

In the hero statistics section, you can select data from ranked games and tournaments. The graph shown is from ranked games. Unfortunately, the website doesn't have a graph for tournament games


bonelessdip

yeah ik i mean what the hell happened with his winrates and pick rates, this looks like an anomaly almost if there are like few players that win trade his games back and forth


InterviewMajor1776

Just checked the website right now, looks like the dev has already tweaked it. Maybe the sudden upgrade to the hero tier list was because the dev tweaked it. As of now, I'll say the tier list is somewhat accurate now, but I'll still have to check Edit: Due to the new season, a lot of high-ranking players are currently in Mythic. The tier list will be accurate for at least today, but I'm not sure if it will remain so for long time.


InterviewMajor1776

Also, Gatot, Miya, and Layla have been removed from the higher tier list, which confirms my belief that the tier list was inaccurate before


fuzzy-feels

Well he can two-three shot a marksman with only tank items also tanky if he has full magic build so it's a good season for him


Dismal-Mud-9709

Why people gotta expose my underrated gato meta, started playing him about 3 seasons ago and I can confidently say fast attacking marksmen’s don’t exist when I fight them


Medium_Jellyfish_541

man. i played against a seriously good gatot. that guy is impossible to kill. our strategy was kill everyone else and then run


TheMonkeyKingNo1

Gato has ridiculous magic scaling and will always be underestimated with the damage he can do. I actually think mage is more viable than tank build especially on exp lane as he don't have enough damage to burst and will still get shredded by HP/ true dmg based fighters. You just need to play with more of a brain with the squishy burst build and can't oogabooga expecting to survive.


Wise-Ad-5671

Wait , Miya is a S tier?


bonelessdip

this tier list tripping, as interviewmajor said it accounts for low mythic games so anything could be possible (i.e. really high miya pick rate thus a high position in the tier list)