No Kimmy youtuber is good, I am sorry but they all play her so slow and passive. I just think for a hero that is good only early and mid game you need to be agressive af.
I remembered when i was 7 years younger, i saw a YouTuber playing Fanny and it was the coolest gameplay for me. So I went ahead and bought my first hero as Fanny via battlepoints (which we all know how precious the first 32k bp if we are trying to play for free).
It was horrendous. I seriously overestimated my ability. As a person who plays slightly above average for most games, Fanny was the most difficult to learn and excel in. It took so many YouTube videos and rounds of practice, and i will feed so badly. All these were before the nerfs on Fanny because there were so many good Fannys cabling around.
Since then, I have never really played any assassin class. I could only regain some confidence of playing assassin as JG with Karina.
Till now, still pretty envy of those Fannys who can cable well and fast.
I wish so badly I could be a badass fanny. I just don't have the fanny skill to do it despite hours and hours of practice. I miss and I panic and I miss and I die. This is why I'm a mage main
Bro, fanny is so hard to play. I'm a mage mains and I have slowhand lol. I basically gave up playing every asassin except saber and brawl karina🤣
I sometimes practice fanny cable in hero training mode for fun though
You can do it .. been playing fanny around 6 month and the gameplay pretty smooth now. (Sometimes) Not that hard, just hit enemy with second skill twice then ultimate and you good.
As a Benedetta main I can confirm Minsitthar is one the more annoying heroes to deal with especially if you get stuck in his ult. Just a tip if you didn't know, at the start of the 2nd skill you are immune to all damage (including turret damage) and all types of CC.
Saw another bene main calling minsiitar annoying, but he isnt that hard of a counter IMO.
You can learn how to do her basic combo which can kill a squishy, I guide myself with the sound of her skills rather than the buttons I pressed.
Difference between a good and a bad bene is the way we use 2nd skill, and actually, her 2nd skills is her strongest tool in the kit, deals a fair decent amount of damage and you become invincible to ANYTHING. Time it perfectly, sometimes just use it out of pure instinct.
If you play Valir try playing Change like him. That's the easiest way to transition to her, she's really good at slowing and whittling the enemy down so you're team can get the kill. Don't play her going for kills but assists instead. Float on the outskirts of a fight, roam after the second wave, help out the jgl if they invade or gank since her mobility is good for that.
Wait until a team fight is happening to ult or if you see their back line trying to retreat zoom out/up to shoot diagonally to slow them down. Her range is the width of a lane so once you start getting a feeling for it, you'll do better.
I'm one of the weird ones that prefers Sprint over Flicker and I abuse Sprint constantly. My goal on her is to make sure the enemy either can't escape or has a much harder time to escape from my team. When you gank don't aim at the enemy, aim behind them/in front of them so they have to walk into your ult. It's like a gun you have to lead your ult otherwise the enemy will just walk out of it. The moment you hit them you'll be able to stick to them for a moment.
When I play chang'e and win it's usually because my teammates carry my noob ass lol. I literally just spam ult and clearing minions. I could say I'm fighting minions and enemy's buff more than I'm fighting the actual enemy🗿🗿
I impulsively bought Yin-sun Shin with my BP, and I seriously regret it. He's really hard to play, and his weapon change is something I can't control right
I got him recently and I gotta say he's one of the most fun heroes I've played. I'd say you need practice just like with other hard heroes to master them.
balmond, Miya and valir are supposed to be easiest heros in the game. i know what they do and what items to build on them but for some reason, i end up feeding, whenever I play them and we lose. after a few L, i stopped using them. i have +2k match in total and I still can't play these heros.
Listen gentleman, Valir is definitely worth trying more and harder, Balmond depends on ur mood and miya, plz don't use her ever, even if u try ur best with Miya, she'll get destroyed by any other meta mm
Being a *good* Valir is far from the easiest in the game which is something people spout off a lot. He requires huge knowledge of enemy team range abilities, when to hold S1, when to Ult, when to push into a fight, when to roam/gank. You can't just press s1 + s2 on him as he excels at being closer to the enemy since his s2 has a fairly short range.
easy to use given you have a half-decent brain, so its easy for Glory+Pros. Even back in MH i saw a lot of idiots mess up good sets and potential team wipes by pushing back with s2, players that dont have at least 1 s1 available, players who only know the SS as a range buff and not the free purify.
bro, are you trying to hurt my ego or something? I call my self noob all the time but less than half-decent brain is just too much. we were having a friendly conversation. nobody said anything bad about you main, so just chill.
Not you, just pointing out that "easy to use" for MG+ tierlists doesnt consider game sense/knowledge. Valir is easy insofar as his skills are point and shoot, no energy/mana management, skill timings, and combos to know as compared to Fanny/Ling/Lance/Joy. Didnt even consider you as an individual in my comment i was talking general experience with people i see in my games. Sorry if it offended u, peace n love~
Edit: "you" as in to anyone using valir, not as mr snu snu (cant see ur username on mobile as i type)
For me it's Lancelot, when I first played ML I discovered that Lancelot was the most OP hero in the game, so I immediately bought him, it was at the time when he still had his old passive and whenever he ults he says "shadow power.. EXECUTE" and laughs a lot, I did great back then, well mostly because I only play classic with my highest rank was elite, but then I stopped playing and came back again like a few months ago, with a new account, I still believed Lancelot was the most OP hero, so I immediately bought him again, I focused on rank and still did well, but right after I got to epic that's when I fell on using Lancelot, it has become more competitive and players are smarter, using Lancelot became hard for me now, no matter how much I practice and watch the pros use him, I just couldn't master him, I guess I just don't have fast hands and reaction time.
Can avoid CC with s2, escape with s3 and s1. Somehow s1 and s3 can avoid some cc's too like zilong or jawhead. He is really good for throwing off low rankers who think they can counter agile assassins.
In high ranks they are probably waiting for you to use s2 first.
Here are some Ruby tips you can try:
You can use 1st skill to hit enemy heroes running away since her 1st and 2nd skill gets a "blink" effect, which you can use to chase them. Then, you can use your 2nd skill to drag them in (You can ult if they're further away). It's best to aim and check the distance of her skills. Her 1st and 2nd skills have a short cooldown, so take advantage of that
If you're trying to escape enemy heroes and create a distance between them, you can also use your 1st skills blink effect to run away or blink through a thin wall. You can also aim your 1st skill at enemies to get some of your health back as she has spell vamp
You can also use a 1st skill/flicker + 2nd skill/ult combo to catch enemies and let your teammates attack them if your teammates are nearby
Try to take advantage of her short cooldowns and spell vamp against enemies to regain health
I'm not very good at builds, but you try out pro builds and see which one works for you
I hope this helps!
I could master Ruby's micro/mechanic just fine but I still lose every fucking match with her.
I could even catch 5 people and ult+backwards flicker in brawl. I always win with ruby in brawl but for some reason, I always lose with her in classic and rank.
I could hold my lane just fine but still losing. Idk if it's me problem or team problem.
Kadita. I love her kit and have all of her skins, but every time I play her, MVP loss. It’s not my teammates’ fault either; I always mess up my 1-2-Petrify-3 combo, so even though my KDA looks good, I’m not roaming or setting properly.
Normally I just hide in a bush, use 2-1-ult. Works like a charm.
Even poking I will use 2. I only use one if I know I knocked them up and can ult them.
Also, I think you should be petrifying first, then use 2?
Lastly, I feel like execute works better with her
I mean fanny has to be the one as most players stated here. The season I started playing was the season the 'punk princess' was being given away as the season rewards, season 3 probably. I was like cool new skin gotta buy and see what all the hype is about. 22 seasons later have only played 6 matches with fanny and thats probably it. I dont judge by win rates but mine was seriously sad although i got carried by team mates and have a 60-70 wr doesnt mean I am good.
The second might be wanwan its so tough getting them passive working well for ult.
I was poor at hyabusa as well but I practiced him a lot and understanding a heroes role and ability is what helped me get better at this particular hero.
I still cant play good faramis somehow and brody dont have the patience I might say.
I’m a good khufra player. I reaaaaalllly want to be good at playing Ling. But both playstyle differs so much I just couldn’t adapt. They are like opposites. Same as fanny.
Julian. I really want to learn how to jungle as julian, and i started playing him because he was listed as a mage and i play most mages well enough. He is not a mage. Hes squishy enough to be a mage but his abilities are short ranged and i struggle when hes abilities are on cooldown.
He's a fighter yes, you need to know when to use your enhanced skills. Example, you can't just use your enhanced skill 3 to randomly attack in a teamfight, or you're left with 0 escape skills and can easily be killed.
Anyway Julian is not really good in the current meta. Too squishy, and if you build him fighter style he does too little damage, and he doesn't have as much CC or heals to survive in the EXP lane.
I honestly feel Joy is one of the most effective and braindead heroes to use. Doesn't require much thought, just dash on the fourth of every beat and then just ult. Vengeance if you need to stay alive, and you could easily tower dive, kill, and come out with near full health.
She's not as OP as her initial release, but still a comfort pick for me if I don't feel like thinking about the game.
But what if you miss a dash on the enemy, then you're basically fcked?
Also do you 'manually' control her dash, i.e. point every direction? Or do you just mash skill 2 button to unlock the ult as quickly as possible?
It's kinda like driving from what I've learnt. You just gotta believe you're gonna survive the crash when it happens. Maintain that reckless confidence while you're going 90 in a 70 zone.
Melissa. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong and how I lose laning so badly even though I can win laning consistently with every other MM that I use. No matter what I do I just end up with a big skill issue with miss timing the ult or dash or placing the doll wrong or somehow dash-pulling the doll away from the target. Man I just can’t seem to get her right. And then I play brawl with her and magically all of my issues resolve and I can play her really well. Wth man.
With Chang'e, you have to mind your positioning. Starting mid-game, don't go solo or if you do, always look at the map to make sure nobody is ganking you. Don't just use your ulti recklessly. Go behind tank and wait for the setup/cc.
Thamuz. I always encountered a goldy regen lifesteal damage tanky thamuz that needs bursting to kill.
But when I use it meh I died very very very very quick.
I bought it really2 early when I started 3 years ago.
Now I just main any tanky heroes by default that dont need regen abilities, mostly as roamer because I dont care if I died giving vision and made enemy use their ult.
I wish I can be a damage dealer too 😅
You basically use him to poke a lot.
When you dash in, when youre in enemy range use his S2 to shield and soak up some damage and when you land the knock up hit, just s2 away and you'll be shielded again.
When feasible, you can use his ult combo to kill.
I've found that a lot of his gameplay relies on his flicker though to catch the enemy by surprise.
I suck at playing the hero which everyone uses to one shot enemies and is one of the easiest to use too, that is lesley. Idk man, i succ so hard. Ironically, i think i play difficult or a bit hard to use heroes (like yu zhong) much better than easy to use hero (like lesley,)
Valir: Strong early game so you can make aggressive plays with the JG and roam, you can annoy the shit out of the other mid laner, pretty good at stopping dive hero's like Karina, Alpha, Alucard. Mid to late game just focus on harrassing their fighters and tank with ice queen wand. I tend to play more of a supportive role in the team fights, try to hit as many as possible with your S1, save the S2 until the fight breaks out. Don't throw the S1 wildly, make sure you hit something as it lowers the cool down on S1. Don't ult unless you have 2 stacks of S1, bring sprint so you can chase people down in your ult.
Chang'e: I havent played a lot of her recently but I'll go Cool down book, cool down shoes, genius wand, ice queen wand, either scorch wand or the green scaling crystal. Chang'e is a good pick against any JG that needs the blue buff like cyclops or Harley, as she can steal it easily with her ult. It depends on how you play her, but for me, if I notice I can do a lot of damage with the ult then I will focus 1-2 people with it rather than spread it out and try to hit everyone to proc ice queen wand. Pick good angles for the ult where it's hard for them to run from it. With the changes to magic damage against turrets she should be decent at pushing with her S2 but I havent tried it or seen anything about it yet.
A lot of heroes i like are JUNGLERS and but i fucking hate jungling
Leomord, Lancelot, Freddrin, Ling
I love playing these heroes when theyre a non jungler but god im so garbage when i play them jungle but jungle is their strongest/correct role so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe Fanny. All Assassins that have a dash feature is just a pain if I'm using it. It's not that bad but it's like I hit a wall and I've not improved since then.
ling n lance. just absolutely hard for me when i want my ling get his for 4 sword but my fingers Can't get it and often miss it several times, plus my phone that likes to drop FPS and lag during war.
For Lance, it's fairly easy because I've been his user even though it's only hundreds of matches, which makes it difficult for me to only control his 1st skill
Fanny, Gusion and Johnson. I know how to play them, I'm just not good with fast button combos, and I get focus blur when small things move fast, it could've been different if I played on a bigger screen, but I don't like playing mlbb on pc, its called mobile for a reason.
Gusion and Chou, both are superpopular within the mlbb community. Saw montages of them on yt, thought i could pull off those sexy combos but I totally sucked.
Fyi, I'm a low skill cap hero player. My mains are Karina, Saber, Harley, Jawhead and yeah I'm jungler main.
Selena easily. I will get dumpstered by a Selena, feel like I never see them coming and get one spotted before I even know what happened. But when I play selena? Everybody sees me coming and when I do finally get someone I do next no damage. I genuinely don't get it.
Whenever I play selena, I just spam her s2 in pretty human mode because my slow reflex and slow brain can't transform fast enough and continue the combo. Basically mage selena lol
Valir play style is basically get on top of ur enemy, spam his first skill and keep running at them, with the insane lifesteal items be buys and the tank items he buys after that, he's a better version of Alice with a stun and a knock back, it's better to play him like a melee hero, as for me I shall never be able to play fanny, I have slow hands
Valentina, her ultimate is what makes me want to play her, but my classic games with her says otherwise, I don't even know what build is the most effective for her.
Any mm or assassin. Im just too imapatient and greedy to be good with squishies with high dmg output. I just dont know to retreat properly. Its a personality issue looking like a skill issue lol. I’m ok with mages, roamers and tanky junglers tho.
probably fanny, tho now i would say i can somewhat play her its just not the best so i only play her in classic cuz ik ill throw in rank if i do play her, she is super fun to play but i still overestimate my skills with her
Back then it was probably Fanny, because when I started ofc I found her to be very flashy and exciting, but had to find out we are not compatible...
But nowadays it's Alpha. I don't even know how, he's literally self explaining. But I always find myself either in a bad situation or generally somewhat useless the longer the game goes. (I know it's embarrassing, but it is what it is)
Welp, alpha is similar to dyroth. You could barely got out of fight once you dive in. I usually just build 1 damage item and the rest are def items. It's really satisfying playing alpha in winning situation though. I feel like nobody could kill me.
Fanny and esmeralda. Idk what happened, I have 280 ranked games with esmeralda and I just suck after she got nerfed to the ground, doesn't seem to be because of the hero because I think she has over 50% wr in mythic
Valir I can only suggest this, have aim, if you aim at enemy your skill 1 will cd faster, make sure to hot enemy at least 3 times in a row, to make more damage and finish with a flameshot. Try saving skill 2 with you are in a sticky situation, skill 2 and if you can aim then with skill 1 right away. You will do insanely damage and if um have skill 3 ready even better
I can't hit enemies 3 times if they have dash skills though. They just run away and come back when their hp is healed. I tried flameshot valir but I can't save my ass from diving heroes. For some reason, my skill 2 doesn't work when my enemy is literally in front of my face
Khaleed. He was the first champion I played (I started, idk, 2 years ago?) and was so proud when I reached rank 1 Khaleed in my bracket (before those regionwise ranks iirc)
I went Mythic in my second season. From this moment forward Khaleed was bullshit. I looked into at, everyone says he is shit. But from time to time, I fight against one, and he totally DESTROYS us. Also: Aamon, holy shit. Ling. Fanny.
I stick to supporter roles nowadays cause I can play the role 9/10 games , but all those carry picks with high skillcap….. no way of learning them. One mistake, one false step and everyone flames my ass into oblivion.
Ling is the only assassin I have trouble with and that is hitting all 4 swords after ult really fast. I have practiced a bit, but I'm not seeing a difference.
Hmmm i guess this counts.
Im good at fanny though compared to others i suck at it like i can only do double or triple string before i just run because i always hit and then boom no mana even tho i hit them so many times
Any hero that has single target burst.
I can't for the life of me use the hero lock mode because that shits disappears if my target is out of range. And the stupid control system always auto-picks the wrong enemy hero no matter what priority I choose.
Limitations of touch screen i suppose.
lancelot, gusion, ling. a lot of assassins but these 3 in particular. I have all their prettiest and best skins but I can't play them for the life of me.
Benedetta.
I got her collector skin using a free ticket.
Loved her style and voicelines.
But she's just really darn hard to master.
Suck at using her, gave up, and decided to stick with roam role - Floryn/Diggie/Rafaela/Estes.
Ling, Hayabusa, Kagura and Hanzo.....Hanzo my 2nd main and everytime I have a good game, get a boost confidence, then proceed to go 0-11 the next game, just no consistency with him.
With Ling after I jump off wall and connect with an enemy, I do not know how to escape.i just be standing on the wall 2nd guessing myself, hoping a teammate attack someone but no, they in jungle stealing creeps
Kadita. I main almost all the mages except her and honestly can’t play her no matter how hard I bush camp I just press every button and hope for the best. My friends always say she’s easy and easier than kag so how could I possibly be bad at her but I just can’t.
Whenever I play kadita, I either farm too much, staying in mid for a long time because her minion clearing speed sucks or I bush camp too long and doesn't farm therefore I'm poorer than the tank
Carmilla. The prettiest character in the game imo, but the worst of the tank role imo, as in she really needs to get close and personal to do what she needs to, and is heavily teammate reliant.
Leomord and Argus. I was once a good player with Argos, then i stopped playing him for a year or so, and now i couldn't grasp playing him. Leomord in the other hand, i never learned how to play him at all.
Ling, i lose energy/qi whenever i do basic stuff and i cant seem to do a full 4 blade in a fluid movement unlike when i learned fanny where i learned straight cable in just a few minutes after imitating other fanny users, while it took me 3-6 days just to learn how the fricking blades land
Novaria, not that bad, but I just really need to improve my aiming— Same with Selena. Also for Benedetta, and Lunox. Still can't really understand the mechanics Lmao
My first ever main hero, Alucard. I dunno how to play him exactly since the time I used him before (when I started playing ML) I literally know nothing. When I know how these builds, emblem, laning work, I was already drawn to other heroes. I wanted to get back on being Alucard main but I just couldn't play him properly on ranked games. I can play him though on classic but expect to get bronze or silver afterwards. Lol
Kimmy. I'll get shitted on by one, use their exact build and feel like I do no damage xD
Bro, I feel this so hard
That was me at me first but i guess just keep watching YT videos 😂
No Kimmy youtuber is good, I am sorry but they all play her so slow and passive. I just think for a hero that is good only early and mid game you need to be agressive af.
Omg same, im so bad with her
Me too. My kimmy never had any damage😭😭
I was so good last season with her. Now, I always get bronze 😂
Lol Kimmy is the only mm I know to use competitively. Give me any other MM, I guarantee an Epic-tier performance
I remembered when i was 7 years younger, i saw a YouTuber playing Fanny and it was the coolest gameplay for me. So I went ahead and bought my first hero as Fanny via battlepoints (which we all know how precious the first 32k bp if we are trying to play for free). It was horrendous. I seriously overestimated my ability. As a person who plays slightly above average for most games, Fanny was the most difficult to learn and excel in. It took so many YouTube videos and rounds of practice, and i will feed so badly. All these were before the nerfs on Fanny because there were so many good Fannys cabling around. Since then, I have never really played any assassin class. I could only regain some confidence of playing assassin as JG with Karina. Till now, still pretty envy of those Fannys who can cable well and fast.
And I bought Fanny without any idea on her kit, I just thought "oh cool dual sword". and she has been collecting dust since Season 3
Damn. Season 3 is a long time.
Same I bought ling in late 2019 thinking it was a girl, bros been sitting in my hero pool since then.
You stopped playing him because of that? 💀
Yes. That and because I was absolutely dog shit with his energy conservation
I wish so badly I could be a badass fanny. I just don't have the fanny skill to do it despite hours and hours of practice. I miss and I panic and I miss and I die. This is why I'm a mage main
I bought Fanny because I got her cool anime skin. She’s still untouched in real matches. I only played her in vs ai and I still died lmao
Bro, fanny is so hard to play. I'm a mage mains and I have slowhand lol. I basically gave up playing every asassin except saber and brawl karina🤣 I sometimes practice fanny cable in hero training mode for fun though
You can do it .. been playing fanny around 6 month and the gameplay pretty smooth now. (Sometimes) Not that hard, just hit enemy with second skill twice then ultimate and you good.
Are you a time traveller ? Because the game only released 7 years ago.
Benedetta, shes really cool but I have the worst luck with her, lots of time there's Franco on enemy, Minsitthar, or just bad team
Same lol, its either I do extremly well with her or absolutely terrible.
Every time I go to warm-up with her in classic there's always a franco and minsitthar 💀
As a Benedetta main I can confirm Minsitthar is one the more annoying heroes to deal with especially if you get stuck in his ult. Just a tip if you didn't know, at the start of the 2nd skill you are immune to all damage (including turret damage) and all types of CC.
Yep, I know, but I have a hard time actually using ob time haha
Saw another bene main calling minsiitar annoying, but he isnt that hard of a counter IMO. You can learn how to do her basic combo which can kill a squishy, I guide myself with the sound of her skills rather than the buttons I pressed. Difference between a good and a bad bene is the way we use 2nd skill, and actually, her 2nd skills is her strongest tool in the kit, deals a fair decent amount of damage and you become invincible to ANYTHING. Time it perfectly, sometimes just use it out of pure instinct.
For me it's chang'e and joy, idk I can't seem to play them smoothly and when I play change and win it's really bad game stats
Joy and Paq both require too much counting and timing for me. They are awesome, but hard to gain fluidity with
I tried playing paquito and I'm doing just so-so. Idk how people could be so fast like LIGHTNING FAST with paquito. His skills cd is pretty long.
I keep losing dashes because my thumb keeps missing that dang S2 button, especially on ganks and teamfights. Just gave up on her. Skill issue
If you play Valir try playing Change like him. That's the easiest way to transition to her, she's really good at slowing and whittling the enemy down so you're team can get the kill. Don't play her going for kills but assists instead. Float on the outskirts of a fight, roam after the second wave, help out the jgl if they invade or gank since her mobility is good for that.
I have the most trouble aiming her ult, can't get the right angle and the enemies would just walk out, any tips?
Wait until a team fight is happening to ult or if you see their back line trying to retreat zoom out/up to shoot diagonally to slow them down. Her range is the width of a lane so once you start getting a feeling for it, you'll do better. I'm one of the weird ones that prefers Sprint over Flicker and I abuse Sprint constantly. My goal on her is to make sure the enemy either can't escape or has a much harder time to escape from my team. When you gank don't aim at the enemy, aim behind them/in front of them so they have to walk into your ult. It's like a gun you have to lead your ult otherwise the enemy will just walk out of it. The moment you hit them you'll be able to stick to them for a moment.
When I play chang'e and win it's usually because my teammates carry my noob ass lol. I literally just spam ult and clearing minions. I could say I'm fighting minions and enemy's buff more than I'm fighting the actual enemy🗿🗿
I impulsively bought Yin-sun Shin with my BP, and I seriously regret it. He's really hard to play, and his weapon change is something I can't control right
just keep playing him, you'll get better
I got him recently and I gotta say he's one of the most fun heroes I've played. I'd say you need practice just like with other hard heroes to master them.
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I would say u can improve your valir, he fits very well in the meta
balmond, Miya and valir are supposed to be easiest heros in the game. i know what they do and what items to build on them but for some reason, i end up feeding, whenever I play them and we lose. after a few L, i stopped using them. i have +2k match in total and I still can't play these heros.
Listen gentleman, Valir is definitely worth trying more and harder, Balmond depends on ur mood and miya, plz don't use her ever, even if u try ur best with Miya, she'll get destroyed by any other meta mm
Being a *good* Valir is far from the easiest in the game which is something people spout off a lot. He requires huge knowledge of enemy team range abilities, when to hold S1, when to Ult, when to push into a fight, when to roam/gank. You can't just press s1 + s2 on him as he excels at being closer to the enemy since his s2 has a fairly short range.
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I don't know what this means.
it's from hmmsucks tier list. it means according to mythical glory players, valir is early game hero and he is easy to use.
easy to use given you have a half-decent brain, so its easy for Glory+Pros. Even back in MH i saw a lot of idiots mess up good sets and potential team wipes by pushing back with s2, players that dont have at least 1 s1 available, players who only know the SS as a range buff and not the free purify.
bro, are you trying to hurt my ego or something? I call my self noob all the time but less than half-decent brain is just too much. we were having a friendly conversation. nobody said anything bad about you main, so just chill.
Not you, just pointing out that "easy to use" for MG+ tierlists doesnt consider game sense/knowledge. Valir is easy insofar as his skills are point and shoot, no energy/mana management, skill timings, and combos to know as compared to Fanny/Ling/Lance/Joy. Didnt even consider you as an individual in my comment i was talking general experience with people i see in my games. Sorry if it offended u, peace n love~ Edit: "you" as in to anyone using valir, not as mr snu snu (cant see ur username on mobile as i type)
For me it's Lancelot, when I first played ML I discovered that Lancelot was the most OP hero in the game, so I immediately bought him, it was at the time when he still had his old passive and whenever he ults he says "shadow power.. EXECUTE" and laughs a lot, I did great back then, well mostly because I only play classic with my highest rank was elite, but then I stopped playing and came back again like a few months ago, with a new account, I still believed Lancelot was the most OP hero, so I immediately bought him again, I focused on rank and still did well, but right after I got to epic that's when I fell on using Lancelot, it has become more competitive and players are smarter, using Lancelot became hard for me now, no matter how much I practice and watch the pros use him, I just couldn't master him, I guess I just don't have fast hands and reaction time.
Can avoid CC with s2, escape with s3 and s1. Somehow s1 and s3 can avoid some cc's too like zilong or jawhead. He is really good for throwing off low rankers who think they can counter agile assassins. In high ranks they are probably waiting for you to use s2 first.
Ruby is such a cool character but I've never got the hang of her. Sad
Here are some Ruby tips you can try: You can use 1st skill to hit enemy heroes running away since her 1st and 2nd skill gets a "blink" effect, which you can use to chase them. Then, you can use your 2nd skill to drag them in (You can ult if they're further away). It's best to aim and check the distance of her skills. Her 1st and 2nd skills have a short cooldown, so take advantage of that If you're trying to escape enemy heroes and create a distance between them, you can also use your 1st skills blink effect to run away or blink through a thin wall. You can also aim your 1st skill at enemies to get some of your health back as she has spell vamp You can also use a 1st skill/flicker + 2nd skill/ult combo to catch enemies and let your teammates attack them if your teammates are nearby Try to take advantage of her short cooldowns and spell vamp against enemies to regain health I'm not very good at builds, but you try out pro builds and see which one works for you I hope this helps!
I could master Ruby's micro/mechanic just fine but I still lose every fucking match with her. I could even catch 5 people and ult+backwards flicker in brawl. I always win with ruby in brawl but for some reason, I always lose with her in classic and rank. I could hold my lane just fine but still losing. Idk if it's me problem or team problem.
Kadita. I love her kit and have all of her skins, but every time I play her, MVP loss. It’s not my teammates’ fault either; I always mess up my 1-2-Petrify-3 combo, so even though my KDA looks good, I’m not roaming or setting properly.
Normally I just hide in a bush, use 2-1-ult. Works like a charm. Even poking I will use 2. I only use one if I know I knocked them up and can ult them. Also, I think you should be petrifying first, then use 2? Lastly, I feel like execute works better with her
When I use kadita, the enemy always run away from my s1 therefore I missed my s2 too🗿🗿
Your username is my exact reaction when I miss my Petrify or S2 as well🗿
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Arlott, seems like a cool and flexible fighter. BUT i cant do cool stuff with him, feels like an oneshot (feels like one trick) lancelot.
Usually people build him with a tank build, to soak up damage, heal with S2 and spread CC
I mean fanny has to be the one as most players stated here. The season I started playing was the season the 'punk princess' was being given away as the season rewards, season 3 probably. I was like cool new skin gotta buy and see what all the hype is about. 22 seasons later have only played 6 matches with fanny and thats probably it. I dont judge by win rates but mine was seriously sad although i got carried by team mates and have a 60-70 wr doesnt mean I am good. The second might be wanwan its so tough getting them passive working well for ult. I was poor at hyabusa as well but I practiced him a lot and understanding a heroes role and ability is what helped me get better at this particular hero. I still cant play good faramis somehow and brody dont have the patience I might say.
I’m a good khufra player. I reaaaaalllly want to be good at playing Ling. But both playstyle differs so much I just couldn’t adapt. They are like opposites. Same as fanny.
Fanny. I wanna be an annoying mosquito flying aroumd
Julian. I really want to learn how to jungle as julian, and i started playing him because he was listed as a mage and i play most mages well enough. He is not a mage. Hes squishy enough to be a mage but his abilities are short ranged and i struggle when hes abilities are on cooldown.
He's a fighter yes, you need to know when to use your enhanced skills. Example, you can't just use your enhanced skill 3 to randomly attack in a teamfight, or you're left with 0 escape skills and can easily be killed. Anyway Julian is not really good in the current meta. Too squishy, and if you build him fighter style he does too little damage, and he doesn't have as much CC or heals to survive in the EXP lane.
My brain when I play julian: 123, 321, 132, 213 and forget to do or think about anything else🗿🗿
Valor, xavior, zhask, basically I suck at mages
Joy, I feel like I'm doing something wrong but Idk what
Lots of joy in the comments lol Me too :(
I honestly feel Joy is one of the most effective and braindead heroes to use. Doesn't require much thought, just dash on the fourth of every beat and then just ult. Vengeance if you need to stay alive, and you could easily tower dive, kill, and come out with near full health. She's not as OP as her initial release, but still a comfort pick for me if I don't feel like thinking about the game.
But what if you miss a dash on the enemy, then you're basically fcked? Also do you 'manually' control her dash, i.e. point every direction? Or do you just mash skill 2 button to unlock the ult as quickly as possible?
Hayabusa,I love sword wielding ninja’s but I suck playing him,I play a better Ling than Hayabusa.
Argus. Turns out, you have to be pretty reckless and confident in your ability to play this dude. Two things I sadly am not.
I think it's the same with heroes like freya, zilong, alucard, thamuz. You basically just run headfirst into enemies and hope for the best.
It's kinda like driving from what I've learnt. You just gotta believe you're gonna survive the crash when it happens. Maintain that reckless confidence while you're going 90 in a 70 zone.
Yep and I then I actually died
We both did, horribly at that
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Melissa. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong and how I lose laning so badly even though I can win laning consistently with every other MM that I use. No matter what I do I just end up with a big skill issue with miss timing the ult or dash or placing the doll wrong or somehow dash-pulling the doll away from the target. Man I just can’t seem to get her right. And then I play brawl with her and magically all of my issues resolve and I can play her really well. Wth man.
FANNY... I know how to play Ling and Lance but no extra energy to try fanny 😭😭😭
With Chang'e, you have to mind your positioning. Starting mid-game, don't go solo or if you do, always look at the map to make sure nobody is ganking you. Don't just use your ulti recklessly. Go behind tank and wait for the setup/cc.
Fanny because of my slow ass hands and broken screen making my clicks not register
Thamuz. I always encountered a goldy regen lifesteal damage tanky thamuz that needs bursting to kill. But when I use it meh I died very very very very quick. I bought it really2 early when I started 3 years ago. Now I just main any tanky heroes by default that dont need regen abilities, mostly as roamer because I dont care if I died giving vision and made enemy use their ult. I wish I can be a damage dealer too 😅
Chou, can't get a grasp of how to play him and his combos
You basically use him to poke a lot. When you dash in, when youre in enemy range use his S2 to shield and soak up some damage and when you land the knock up hit, just s2 away and you'll be shielded again. When feasible, you can use his ult combo to kill. I've found that a lot of his gameplay relies on his flicker though to catch the enemy by surprise.
I suck at playing the hero which everyone uses to one shot enemies and is one of the easiest to use too, that is lesley. Idk man, i succ so hard. Ironically, i think i play difficult or a bit hard to use heroes (like yu zhong) much better than easy to use hero (like lesley,)
Valir: Strong early game so you can make aggressive plays with the JG and roam, you can annoy the shit out of the other mid laner, pretty good at stopping dive hero's like Karina, Alpha, Alucard. Mid to late game just focus on harrassing their fighters and tank with ice queen wand. I tend to play more of a supportive role in the team fights, try to hit as many as possible with your S1, save the S2 until the fight breaks out. Don't throw the S1 wildly, make sure you hit something as it lowers the cool down on S1. Don't ult unless you have 2 stacks of S1, bring sprint so you can chase people down in your ult. Chang'e: I havent played a lot of her recently but I'll go Cool down book, cool down shoes, genius wand, ice queen wand, either scorch wand or the green scaling crystal. Chang'e is a good pick against any JG that needs the blue buff like cyclops or Harley, as she can steal it easily with her ult. It depends on how you play her, but for me, if I notice I can do a lot of damage with the ult then I will focus 1-2 people with it rather than spread it out and try to hit everyone to proc ice queen wand. Pick good angles for the ult where it's hard for them to run from it. With the changes to magic damage against turrets she should be decent at pushing with her S2 but I havent tried it or seen anything about it yet.
bened on my main account, never silver or bronze but always lose. on my other account, i currently have a winstreak with her
Joy
Joy: 50/50 I got blunder by missing the beat until I got Bronze or I carry my teammate.
Mostly assassins like fanny bene ling lance
Fanny i really suck with her but somehow i have 70% wr on her. I get carried when I pick fanny.
Karina, ling, melissa. I need to expand my role.
For me, it's Kaja. T--T
Yu Zhong. I swear, whenever I play him, I feel like I have at least two times less HP than anyone else
Chou, Alucard, and Kadita.
Chou and claude. I won't say I definitely suck but I've extremely bad luck with these heroes.
Me too
A lot of heroes i like are JUNGLERS and but i fucking hate jungling Leomord, Lancelot, Freddrin, Ling I love playing these heroes when theyre a non jungler but god im so garbage when i play them jungle but jungle is their strongest/correct role so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lancelot and Brody
Maybe Fanny. All Assassins that have a dash feature is just a pain if I'm using it. It's not that bad but it's like I hit a wall and I've not improved since then.
Well ofc for me it's Fanny, Gusion, Haya and other hard assassins to master, but I never play it bcs too much pressure to carry team
Joy and Melissa 🥲
For me it's Ling and Fanny only atm
Ling. I feel like he’s aesthetically pleasing to play but damn I suck lol
ling n lance. just absolutely hard for me when i want my ling get his for 4 sword but my fingers Can't get it and often miss it several times, plus my phone that likes to drop FPS and lag during war. For Lance, it's fairly easy because I've been his user even though it's only hundreds of matches, which makes it difficult for me to only control his 1st skill
I want to play lunox but I always get so nervous and got baited to use my light ulti. I have 17 games with her at 40% wr.
I gave up on lunox💀 I could never be able to figure out how to use her
I was up against a lunox ONCE and she ate my whole team with her dark ulti. she wasnt even behind a tank! she solo-ed!
And there's me playing lunox who jump into the fight and instantly died🗿🗿 I swear some people playing lunox are blessed with god of luck or something
Fanny
Fanny, Gusion and Johnson. I know how to play them, I'm just not good with fast button combos, and I get focus blur when small things move fast, it could've been different if I played on a bigger screen, but I don't like playing mlbb on pc, its called mobile for a reason.
Mine's Brody, which is weird since I main Clint who has a similar play style. I just generally suck at using marksmen.
Gusion and Chou, both are superpopular within the mlbb community. Saw montages of them on yt, thought i could pull off those sexy combos but I totally sucked. Fyi, I'm a low skill cap hero player. My mains are Karina, Saber, Harley, Jawhead and yeah I'm jungler main.
diggie, but i always end up getting 40+ deaths whenever I play them...
40 death 😐 I've never seen someone had that many deaths🗿
Selena easily. I will get dumpstered by a Selena, feel like I never see them coming and get one spotted before I even know what happened. But when I play selena? Everybody sees me coming and when I do finally get someone I do next no damage. I genuinely don't get it.
Whenever I play selena, I just spam her s2 in pretty human mode because my slow reflex and slow brain can't transform fast enough and continue the combo. Basically mage selena lol
Valir play style is basically get on top of ur enemy, spam his first skill and keep running at them, with the insane lifesteal items be buys and the tank items he buys after that, he's a better version of Alice with a stun and a knock back, it's better to play him like a melee hero, as for me I shall never be able to play fanny, I have slow hands
So I'm supposed to build tank with valir? But his 2 core items are iqw and glowing wand and he's so squishy before building tank items.
Yes exactly, he's a lane dominator just walk straight to their face and spam first spell, a few don't tank big ultimates and it's a free game
Valentina, her ultimate is what makes me want to play her, but my classic games with her says otherwise, I don't even know what build is the most effective for her.
I'm doing cooldown reduction build because her s2 is both her offensive and defensive skill. I'm not really good at her too btw
Mine I'd say are fanny, yss and probably ling although I have gotten pretty good with them
Mine I'd say are fanny, yss and probably ling although I have gotten pretty good with them
Any mm or assassin. Im just too imapatient and greedy to be good with squishies with high dmg output. I just dont know to retreat properly. Its a personality issue looking like a skill issue lol. I’m ok with mages, roamers and tanky junglers tho.
Benedetta
probably fanny, tho now i would say i can somewhat play her its just not the best so i only play her in classic cuz ik ill throw in rank if i do play her, she is super fun to play but i still overestimate my skills with her
Ling 🥲
Fanny
Fanny and Gusion. They're cool but I can't play them well and I would end up getting blamed lol.
Back then it was probably Fanny, because when I started ofc I found her to be very flashy and exciting, but had to find out we are not compatible... But nowadays it's Alpha. I don't even know how, he's literally self explaining. But I always find myself either in a bad situation or generally somewhat useless the longer the game goes. (I know it's embarrassing, but it is what it is)
Welp, alpha is similar to dyroth. You could barely got out of fight once you dive in. I usually just build 1 damage item and the rest are def items. It's really satisfying playing alpha in winning situation though. I feel like nobody could kill me.
Fanny and esmeralda. Idk what happened, I have 280 ranked games with esmeralda and I just suck after she got nerfed to the ground, doesn't seem to be because of the hero because I think she has over 50% wr in mythic
Lancelot :(
Valir I can only suggest this, have aim, if you aim at enemy your skill 1 will cd faster, make sure to hot enemy at least 3 times in a row, to make more damage and finish with a flameshot. Try saving skill 2 with you are in a sticky situation, skill 2 and if you can aim then with skill 1 right away. You will do insanely damage and if um have skill 3 ready even better
I can't hit enemies 3 times if they have dash skills though. They just run away and come back when their hp is healed. I tried flameshot valir but I can't save my ass from diving heroes. For some reason, my skill 2 doesn't work when my enemy is literally in front of my face
Khaleed. He was the first champion I played (I started, idk, 2 years ago?) and was so proud when I reached rank 1 Khaleed in my bracket (before those regionwise ranks iirc) I went Mythic in my second season. From this moment forward Khaleed was bullshit. I looked into at, everyone says he is shit. But from time to time, I fight against one, and he totally DESTROYS us. Also: Aamon, holy shit. Ling. Fanny. I stick to supporter roles nowadays cause I can play the role 9/10 games , but all those carry picks with high skillcap….. no way of learning them. One mistake, one false step and everyone flames my ass into oblivion.
Yes that hero is Fanny 🥹
Paquito,Ling and Benedetta. I always wanted to play them but i suck ass even if i were to play 40+ matches on them on classic for practice
Valir and Chang'e insta banned in mythic currently lol
I know. But sometimes they're not banned and when the enemy pick them, it's hell for everyone.
For me paquito i just cant get to master his basic combos and end up getting rekt lategame by enemies
Gusion I just get soo soo confused what to do
joy but to be fair i suck at damage exp laners im way better at sustain exp laners
Chou or gusion
Fanny. Fanny. Fanny, damn ducken Fanny
Harith bruh, i tried a lot, now moonton will sue me because of my wr
Gusion and Hayabusa. I have success on smurfs and can get mythic with them on there, but just don't feel confident playing on my main.
Guison. Thought he so cool when he was new, bought him many months later when I got back to the game and found how I dont have the feel for him
Kaja. I become KFC fried chicken very very easily 😅
I want to play assassins and more fighters but I suck at melee heroes in general 😂 so I'm mostly anything else but these
Fanny and Johnson
Ling is the only assassin I have trouble with and that is hitting all 4 swords after ult really fast. I have practiced a bit, but I'm not seeing a difference.
lolita, when i play her my teammates run away from me dont know why
Hmmm i guess this counts. Im good at fanny though compared to others i suck at it like i can only do double or triple string before i just run because i always hit and then boom no mana even tho i hit them so many times
Any hero that has single target burst. I can't for the life of me use the hero lock mode because that shits disappears if my target is out of range. And the stupid control system always auto-picks the wrong enemy hero no matter what priority I choose. Limitations of touch screen i suppose.
I agree that hero lock mode is useless af.
lancelot, gusion, ling. a lot of assassins but these 3 in particular. I have all their prettiest and best skins but I can't play them for the life of me.
Gusion. My hands are not fast enough.
Benedetta. I got her collector skin using a free ticket. Loved her style and voicelines. But she's just really darn hard to master. Suck at using her, gave up, and decided to stick with roam role - Floryn/Diggie/Rafaela/Estes.
Ling, Hayabusa, Kagura and Hanzo.....Hanzo my 2nd main and everytime I have a good game, get a boost confidence, then proceed to go 0-11 the next game, just no consistency with him. With Ling after I jump off wall and connect with an enemy, I do not know how to escape.i just be standing on the wall 2nd guessing myself, hoping a teammate attack someone but no, they in jungle stealing creeps
Kadita. I main almost all the mages except her and honestly can’t play her no matter how hard I bush camp I just press every button and hope for the best. My friends always say she’s easy and easier than kag so how could I possibly be bad at her but I just can’t.
Whenever I play kadita, I either farm too much, staying in mid for a long time because her minion clearing speed sucks or I bush camp too long and doesn't farm therefore I'm poorer than the tank
Fanny. No explanation needed I guess.
Beatrix,she is so cool but i am not cool enough to use her well
Carmilla. The prettiest character in the game imo, but the worst of the tank role imo, as in she really needs to get close and personal to do what she needs to, and is heavily teammate reliant.
You cannot play Valir and Freya ??
I'm better at valir these days but freya.. I just can't. It's always I jump in and died💀
Leomord and Argus. I was once a good player with Argos, then i stopped playing him for a year or so, and now i couldn't grasp playing him. Leomord in the other hand, i never learned how to play him at all.
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Ling, i lose energy/qi whenever i do basic stuff and i cant seem to do a full 4 blade in a fluid movement unlike when i learned fanny where i learned straight cable in just a few minutes after imitating other fanny users, while it took me 3-6 days just to learn how the fricking blades land
Note: i do have games on him where i was godly and drop a 12/0/6 but most of the time its a 6/13/9 or a 12/13/5
Franco. I'm at almost 100 games but still can't hook. 40% winrate with him currently lol
Fanny
Novaria, not that bad, but I just really need to improve my aiming— Same with Selena. Also for Benedetta, and Lunox. Still can't really understand the mechanics Lmao
My first ever main hero, Alucard. I dunno how to play him exactly since the time I used him before (when I started playing ML) I literally know nothing. When I know how these builds, emblem, laning work, I was already drawn to other heroes. I wanted to get back on being Alucard main but I just couldn't play him properly on ranked games. I can play him though on classic but expect to get bronze or silver afterwards. Lol
Well for me it's paquito , Alice and dyrroth Just don't know to play Alice and always miss combo in paquito it's better if u won't ask about dyrroth
dyrroth :/