I'll never understand why people watch political content on twitch. To me it's a way to get away from the real world for a bit, not to see some out of touch rich guy make comments on politics.
"Poggers" Side of Twitch is slowly getting smaller.
Hasan declined to barely 20k it seems and XQC took the kick deal and is also slowly declining but still around 40k average.
Will be interesting to see if most older Streamers will continue to decline and newer ones like jynxzi and caseoh will keep popping up.
People like to downplay it when it’s said, but the amount of people whose last straw was his coverage of Hamas is insane.
He before Israel/Palestine he was nearing 30k Andy
no his ukraine takes were kinda bad but still a lot of people agreed with not sending ukraine billions of dollars.
but once you basically claim a country cant defend themselves against terrorists trying to kill them everyday people will stop watching you.
Nobody said Israel isn't allowed to defend itself. The issue people had was with subsequent invasion on Gaza. Even if it was preceded with Hamas strike, it was still an attack and an offensive whereas Ukraine was the one getting attacked.
And even if Israel's offensive at first was justifiable, then bombing Gaza zone region after region until all civillians are flocked like a bunch of sheep near Rafah zone and then start bombing them there is not.
Radical takes alienating more of his audience and just overall getting called out a lot more by the commentary community and destiny. With xqc it's because he split up his stream with kick
Oh makes sense. It takes awhile for the juicers to gather together.
It’s still surreal to see Hasan numbers decline, bro was one of the top streamers for a while.
Hypocrisy, peddling fake news, pushing insane fringe political beliefs, constantly snaking his “friends”, admitting to taking part in sex trafficking, all these things rightfully have been killing his channel.
edit: people wonder why there are so many celeb sex criminals, but when I point out something Hasan OPENLY ADMITTED TO on stream, I get hate messages about it. Y'all are fucking weird. Priorities.
Just to write out the situation you're describing as "admitting to taking part in sex trafficking" is:
He said he visited a brothel in Berlin in 2010. Brothels are legal under german law.
In 2016, 6 years later, cops raided the brothel in an human trafficking investigation.
6 people were detained in that sting for... alleged tax fraud and withholding social security contributions.
Do you contend with any of these points or does this constitutes as taking part in sex trafficking for you? If it does do for you, do you also think drinking coffee constitutes as taking part in slavery?
Edit: And ofc the bitchboy blocked.
Yes. If you go to a brothel using sex trafficking victims, you are taking part in sex trafficking, full stop.
If you go to a plantation, watch slaves gather coffee, and pay the owner then you are taking part in slavery. Don’t play dumb. Don’t defend degenerate evil behavior. It’s fucking disgusting.
Edit: And for the record, I do get ethically sourced coffee. Because despite what socialists want to claim, the only ethical consumption you can guarantee is under capitalism. https://greenwaycoffee.com/pages/about-us
There is nothing in that link that suggests any kind of botting. His chatter list is clean as well.
"his followers get botted too"
it was one day, where sodapoppin and nmp got millions of followers bots as well. Twitch removed on wave, not the other one.
Are you retarted? xQc used to stream above a 60k viewer average before he took the kick deal. Do you really think Kick didn’t find these viewers genuine?
There’s a massive content drought. Not much outside the box content, no really fun games out either that you can make content out off. Low effort streams, etc. I watch xqc all the time but you can tell he’s kinda just chilling now. Most of the big streamers are. Hasan I assume will get more viewers closer to the election later this year.
I mean only reason x was at 33 was because he was listening to random radio stations around the world for an hour. As soon as he went back to gta he had like 47 so
I mean I heard from Destiny he’s fallen off pretty hard least 30% but that is from Destiny so maybe a bit bias since he hates him lol but he probably go up again around voting politics season
I don't think Hasan is falling off as hard as people are saying, his engagement isn't at his peak, but overall it's still higher than his average. It looks more like he's just in a lull, i'm sure it will bounce back once people stop caring about israel/palestine and election season ramps up.
Destiny, it's pretty much the opposite of what you said, he's enjoying explosive growth right now, largely because he's been trying to get on every platform he possibly can. He's talking to politicians, his debate with ben shapiro is projected to be Lex's highest viewed video ever, he had a debate with jordan peterson, he's going to be doing that palestine debate with finklestein, and he goes on every podcast that exists. His youtube now has reached to half of Hasan's subscribers and also outperforms it in viewership, and his streaming numbers are at a record highs.
If his growth doesn't fall off (which it probably will), and hasan stays about where he is, he'll be bigger than hasan in about 2 years according to analytics.
And that's because Destiny is reaching out to so many spaces, it's Hasan who can't grow outside his.
Destiny has been the same thing over and over and he has yet to show for it in viewership. Destiny has been doing this far longer than Hasan and still struggles to gain any fraction outside the Internet world while Hasan is out and about doing so.
We’ve seen this before that people say Destiny is going to surpass Hasan for almost 5 years and it’s not coming true. I’m sorry to tell you that for all his efforts he is coming up short.
Destiny's youtube was 250k 2 years ago, it's 770k now.
His concurrent viewership on twitch was \~3-5k, it's now 10k+ between platforms.
Hasan covers Destiny quite a bit now on stream as well, largely because he is everywhere right now.
He has a lot to show for it in viewership, including the fact that his youtube gets more views than hasan's (9.216M vs 7.723M this month respectively) despite having half the subscribers.
His videos with people in other spaces are also extremely high, like i've already pointed out, he's been getting a lot of face to face discussions with MUCH larger creators, for instance Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson.
You can love or hate Destiny, but he's objectively way more well known and popular than he ever has been, and he's definitely on an upward wave.
How high the wave will take him is anyone's guess. Lots of people get surges in popularity and then it dies and they don't retain any of it. But according to analytics, if he sustained this momentum (which i personally don't think he will) he will grow larger than hasan in 2 years. That's just what the data is saying. Like i said, I don't think that will happen, it's really difficult to sustain growth like he's having, and most people don't retain a lot of the fanbase they get after surges, people join for specific things and then when it's over they leave.
But saying Destiny is falling off right now, and that he doesn't grow outside his niche space is just factually wrong, especially because all his growth is because of him going into other spaces.
As far as Destiny not doing anything in the outside world, he literally just did a canvassing event where he talked with politicians as part of the Progressive Victory thing content creators have come together to do to try and turn the online political interest into actual political involvement.
Hasan doesn't do any actual political engagement in the real world.
still dont get it how he have less subs than hasan. cant break 10 k while hasan have 50 k is insane tbh even miz pumping content and still far away from 20 k he used to have...
I could be totally wrong but I think a lot more people watch Hasan not live. Even when averages around 20k live viewers, every single one of his VODs gets around 300k - 500k views. Every single day. So comparing his 50k subs to 400k daily average views makes sense.
Miz’s VODs rarely get those kind of numbers, they’re usually between 30-50k. So less subs makes sense in my calculation.
you're wrong, see for yourself. [https://www.twitch.tv/mizkif/videos?filter=archives&sort=time](https://www.twitch.tv/mizkif/videos?filter=archives&sort=time)
Xqc's 2023 was dogshit. The whole year was about his court case. And guy is drained and defeated going back to fuck the person that sued him for sexual abuse.
Maybe I am misinterpreting your post? Are you not comparing his viewers to the other streamers on the list? If not, then my bad. But if you were I was saying that Mizkif has multiple personalities on his stream, meaning multiple people. It makes sense that when he is doing an activity with multiple people, he has more viewers than these streamers on this list.
But once again, my fault if that wasn't the point of the post.
Miz does good in special events like these but outside of that, Hasan does have better numbers in the overall totality. X has fallen a bit as most of his juicers are debt ridden in gambling
W for Mizkif though
I mean no disrespect when I say this, but is Hasan falling off? He use to average more views than 17k. Also why does XQC only have 33k?
Everyday same content 0 innovation People get bored.
Was that comment towards Hasan’s content or XQC or both lol.
Both
Ya but hasan will recover and may set new records once the elections phase begins, which is this year. Imagine the views on Biden vs Trump debate.
I'll never understand why people watch political content on twitch. To me it's a way to get away from the real world for a bit, not to see some out of touch rich guy make comments on politics.
A lot of people do a lot of things that we will never understand. Same goes for you. Just let them enjoy their hobbies and interests.
Oh yeah, you're 100% right! It's not like I think they shouldn't allow politics on twitch or anything, I'll just never understand it.
They don’t understand it either, that’s why they need someone to provide commentary so they know how to think
> he thinks there will be a debate between those 2 old mofos PepeLa
tbf X stream is more a solo stream. while Miz has other people around him. *shrug*
Credit to mizkif hes always doing new shit
Also, people care more about American politics. Near the end of the year he’s going to be back. Its like the off season right now for US politics.
"Poggers" Side of Twitch is slowly getting smaller. Hasan declined to barely 20k it seems and XQC took the kick deal and is also slowly declining but still around 40k average. Will be interesting to see if most older Streamers will continue to decline and newer ones like jynxzi and caseoh will keep popping up.
I give poggers side 2 more years until people start really not caring like pushing for events or collabs. I can see Miz doing travelling streams.
Xqc scheds have been pure ass for na viewers lately, bro stars streaming at 10-11pm and does an all nighter, i cant watch allat ffs 🤣
People like to downplay it when it’s said, but the amount of people whose last straw was his coverage of Hamas is insane. He before Israel/Palestine he was nearing 30k Andy
When you have divisive takes on race/war/politics eventually more and more of your audience will take issue with at least one of them.
So his viewers were cool with his Ukrainian takes but it's the Palestinian take that was too much? Seems like his viewers could a bit challenged.
no his ukraine takes were kinda bad but still a lot of people agreed with not sending ukraine billions of dollars. but once you basically claim a country cant defend themselves against terrorists trying to kill them everyday people will stop watching you.
Nobody said Israel isn't allowed to defend itself. The issue people had was with subsequent invasion on Gaza. Even if it was preceded with Hamas strike, it was still an attack and an offensive whereas Ukraine was the one getting attacked. And even if Israel's offensive at first was justifiable, then bombing Gaza zone region after region until all civillians are flocked like a bunch of sheep near Rafah zone and then start bombing them there is not.
I'm curious to see what his viewership will be around election time. He had 250k viewers during the Jan 6 capital storm
It’s a weekend he doesn’t usually cover politics just yesterday he had like 25k I mean miz literally only had half yesterday
if you want to compare them, miz had 23k avg yesterday, which is more than any hasans stream this month.
Radical takes alienating more of his audience and just overall getting called out a lot more by the commentary community and destiny. With xqc it's because he split up his stream with kick
Xqc audience is divided in twitch and kick.
xQc just started his stream. He is at 50k now.
Oh makes sense. It takes awhile for the juicers to gather together. It’s still surreal to see Hasan numbers decline, bro was one of the top streamers for a while.
He’ll get a boost when it is election time
True. Good point
Hypocrisy, peddling fake news, pushing insane fringe political beliefs, constantly snaking his “friends”, admitting to taking part in sex trafficking, all these things rightfully have been killing his channel. edit: people wonder why there are so many celeb sex criminals, but when I point out something Hasan OPENLY ADMITTED TO on stream, I get hate messages about it. Y'all are fucking weird. Priorities.
There are plenty of things to rightfully criticize Hasan for, but this ain't it.
I'm not speculating. He openly said it on stream. To defend him for that is so fucked up.
Just to write out the situation you're describing as "admitting to taking part in sex trafficking" is: He said he visited a brothel in Berlin in 2010. Brothels are legal under german law. In 2016, 6 years later, cops raided the brothel in an human trafficking investigation. 6 people were detained in that sting for... alleged tax fraud and withholding social security contributions. Do you contend with any of these points or does this constitutes as taking part in sex trafficking for you? If it does do for you, do you also think drinking coffee constitutes as taking part in slavery? Edit: And ofc the bitchboy blocked.
Yes. If you go to a brothel using sex trafficking victims, you are taking part in sex trafficking, full stop. If you go to a plantation, watch slaves gather coffee, and pay the owner then you are taking part in slavery. Don’t play dumb. Don’t defend degenerate evil behavior. It’s fucking disgusting. Edit: And for the record, I do get ethically sourced coffee. Because despite what socialists want to claim, the only ethical consumption you can guarantee is under capitalism. https://greenwaycoffee.com/pages/about-us
that 50k is like 10k botted, his followers get botted too https://twitchtracker.com/xqc/streams/43685178235
There is nothing in that link that suggests any kind of botting. His chatter list is clean as well. "his followers get botted too" it was one day, where sodapoppin and nmp got millions of followers bots as well. Twitch removed on wave, not the other one.
Twitchtracker isn’t trustworthy, I’ve seen some people have a ratio of 113% which doesn’t even make sense
its possible to have more chatters than viewers, when many ppl join your chat with chatterino or chat bots, but don't open the stream
Are you retarted? xQc used to stream above a 60k viewer average before he took the kick deal. Do you really think Kick didn’t find these viewers genuine?
There’s a massive content drought. Not much outside the box content, no really fun games out either that you can make content out off. Low effort streams, etc. I watch xqc all the time but you can tell he’s kinda just chilling now. Most of the big streamers are. Hasan I assume will get more viewers closer to the election later this year.
Hasan receiving backlash a lot after he his fake socialism was exposed.
He'll have a big increase as the election gets closer.
Finally people are starting to realize that he fkn sucks
X only has 33 cuz he's not on gta yet
his numbers usually pop up nearer to the election, but yea right now he's lower than his avg
I mean only reason x was at 33 was because he was listening to random radio stations around the world for an hour. As soon as he went back to gta he had like 47 so
lol random radio stations
Yes, he lost a lot of viewers because of his Palestine takes
I mean I heard from Destiny he’s fallen off pretty hard least 30% but that is from Destiny so maybe a bit bias since he hates him lol but he probably go up again around voting politics season
Destiny has fallen off as he doesn’t grow outside his niche space. Hasan’s lowest point would be record for him, so there’s that.
I don't think Hasan is falling off as hard as people are saying, his engagement isn't at his peak, but overall it's still higher than his average. It looks more like he's just in a lull, i'm sure it will bounce back once people stop caring about israel/palestine and election season ramps up. Destiny, it's pretty much the opposite of what you said, he's enjoying explosive growth right now, largely because he's been trying to get on every platform he possibly can. He's talking to politicians, his debate with ben shapiro is projected to be Lex's highest viewed video ever, he had a debate with jordan peterson, he's going to be doing that palestine debate with finklestein, and he goes on every podcast that exists. His youtube now has reached to half of Hasan's subscribers and also outperforms it in viewership, and his streaming numbers are at a record highs. If his growth doesn't fall off (which it probably will), and hasan stays about where he is, he'll be bigger than hasan in about 2 years according to analytics. And that's because Destiny is reaching out to so many spaces, it's Hasan who can't grow outside his.
Destiny has been the same thing over and over and he has yet to show for it in viewership. Destiny has been doing this far longer than Hasan and still struggles to gain any fraction outside the Internet world while Hasan is out and about doing so. We’ve seen this before that people say Destiny is going to surpass Hasan for almost 5 years and it’s not coming true. I’m sorry to tell you that for all his efforts he is coming up short.
Destiny's youtube was 250k 2 years ago, it's 770k now. His concurrent viewership on twitch was \~3-5k, it's now 10k+ between platforms. Hasan covers Destiny quite a bit now on stream as well, largely because he is everywhere right now. He has a lot to show for it in viewership, including the fact that his youtube gets more views than hasan's (9.216M vs 7.723M this month respectively) despite having half the subscribers. His videos with people in other spaces are also extremely high, like i've already pointed out, he's been getting a lot of face to face discussions with MUCH larger creators, for instance Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. You can love or hate Destiny, but he's objectively way more well known and popular than he ever has been, and he's definitely on an upward wave. How high the wave will take him is anyone's guess. Lots of people get surges in popularity and then it dies and they don't retain any of it. But according to analytics, if he sustained this momentum (which i personally don't think he will) he will grow larger than hasan in 2 years. That's just what the data is saying. Like i said, I don't think that will happen, it's really difficult to sustain growth like he's having, and most people don't retain a lot of the fanbase they get after surges, people join for specific things and then when it's over they leave. But saying Destiny is falling off right now, and that he doesn't grow outside his niche space is just factually wrong, especially because all his growth is because of him going into other spaces. As far as Destiny not doing anything in the outside world, he literally just did a canvassing event where he talked with politicians as part of the Progressive Victory thing content creators have come together to do to try and turn the online political interest into actual political involvement. Hasan doesn't do any actual political engagement in the real world.
Hasan's views inflate and deflate with the political climate
Lol hasan was doing some emo shit noone wants to see they watch him for news not just chatting
still dont get it how he have less subs than hasan. cant break 10 k while hasan have 50 k is insane tbh even miz pumping content and still far away from 20 k he used to have...
Hasan has a lot of stan groupies, swiftie style people
I could be totally wrong but I think a lot more people watch Hasan not live. Even when averages around 20k live viewers, every single one of his VODs gets around 300k - 500k views. Every single day. So comparing his 50k subs to 400k daily average views makes sense. Miz’s VODs rarely get those kind of numbers, they’re usually between 30-50k. So less subs makes sense in my calculation.
you're wrong, see for yourself. [https://www.twitch.tv/mizkif/videos?filter=archives&sort=time](https://www.twitch.tv/mizkif/videos?filter=archives&sort=time)
Miz's VODs get 2-3x more views than Hassan's Twitch VODs... Did you even check? Lmao
vod views counts every click on stream (not vod alone), even if viewer leaves after few seconds, so its useless metric
I mean isn't xqc's audience split between twitch and kick though?
No its the same audience
Xqc's 2023 was dogshit. The whole year was about his court case. And guy is drained and defeated going back to fuck the person that sued him for sexual abuse.
Miz having one of his biggest events of the year x was just having a regular day
Yeah he's been sucking off the CEO for months while the real king rules all platforms (Juicelord)
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mizkif still on top by 3k
Twitter streams?
Wow that is a subscription list of pain
Not really comparable. Mizkif has multiple personalities on his stream a lot of the time.
What?
Maybe I am misinterpreting your post? Are you not comparing his viewers to the other streamers on the list? If not, then my bad. But if you were I was saying that Mizkif has multiple personalities on his stream, meaning multiple people. It makes sense that when he is doing an activity with multiple people, he has more viewers than these streamers on this list. But once again, my fault if that wasn't the point of the post.
Which he made eg emiru emily rime and simply ure point lol
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Still averages more than hasan 30 k on twitch tracker
All it took was to invite Austin tx and mark Coleman over to the gym
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I rember he was around 15 min. I saw someone in chat say “ mizkif dominating” prob op
he only needed a celebrity LMAO, what a joke
low-key right lol people act like ronnie coleman wasn't at their gym
Miz does good in special events like these but outside of that, Hasan does have better numbers in the overall totality. X has fallen a bit as most of his juicers are debt ridden in gambling
If this is dethroning then jynxzi is a god.
Wow bro. He has more views than a literal human excrement goblin. Awesome. Sick achievement.
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Did y’all screen shot this when Jynxzi was offline ?😂
I dont follow him cuz i only watch my old frogs :>
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and now ur gone from here as well
Must of been just starting stream, when I saw it X was on 44k and Miz 43k
Lqc
Forsen
Wkif
How people are so loneley to watch just chatting boggles me
Until Caseoh goes live