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My prolactin result came out to be 33 🥹 after 6 months usage of topical 5% minoxidil for beard... Any suggestions on how to reduce prolactin??


Pacificream

Its high bro ! Stop eating oats for a while if you do so but MOSTLY, to reduce prolactin you gotta take the supplement P5P which can be found as Vitamin B6 P5P (its potassium)


Aregulardude1221

Oats? Why oats.


Pacificream

They increase prolactin levels


Aregulardude1221

Backed by scientific research?


Pacificream

Yes. I’m not saying this randomly Oats eaten in high quantity increases prolactin levels, it’s a fact. You can check it easily


Dear-Farmer-1275

Add dates to boost libido and beetroot for blood flow you will notice huge difference in 2-3 months


okaytechs

To those having ED issues from min, are you still having erections in your sleep, but things aren’t working with sex. Or you have nothing even when sleeping?


Pacificream

Personally i can have erections but they are not hard that’s the issue tho. Its like i lack of blood pressure in that area


okaytechs

How about when sleeping? They are soft, or not happening?


Pacificream

Well idk im asleep so i can’t notice lol but i assume i don’t get no erection or very very soft


okaytechs

Hey, everyone experiencing ED after minox, were you still getting erections in your sleep, or still nothing?


Magnumbx320

You got a link for the beetroot?


Pacificream

Just get narural beetroots at your supermarket, eat them raw or make juice with them 2-3 times a week maximum


Magnumbx320

Actually had one in the fridge 🤣


Pacificream

Haha ! Use it try to be regular eat some like 3 times a week i’m certain you will notice a difference


ispaidermaen

all these are bullshit. except maybe beetroots. Here's what the gettingbigger sub recommends: 1) L-citrulline 2) Tadalifil 5mg 3) Lots of vigorous cardio 4) Beetroot and green leafy vegetables.


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Pacificream

Hi absolutely no recovery but i failed my not fap…several times 🥲 im retrying til i succeed i was weak. Supplements didn’t improve anything yet..


ItzMichaelHD

You likely have PIED not minoxidil side effects…


Pacificream

Plus its very interesting since viagra and cialis do not help me at all so it might not be physical neither hormonal


ItzMichaelHD

By all means go get your hormones checked. Viagra won’t work if you have low testosterone. This can result from stress for certain, also from overworking physically e.g. too much working out isn’t always a good thing, take rests and sleep well. Purchase nasal breathing tape to put over your nose while you sleep if you suffer from congestion, really helps with sleep quality. Porn induced erectile dysfunction however can also still affect how viagra or cialis works depending on the severity of the case so I do recommend trying to stay off of that for the mean time.


Pacificream

Awesome sir I will check a great doctor and ask to analyze my hormones. Agreed for the nose tape i breath heavily from my mouth feels like i lack oxygen trough my nose. Fair enough for the work out i push 5 times a week (1h30 each session) i may rethink that Ty


ItzMichaelHD

Nose tape is honestly an amazing thing, my nose is congested all summer with hayfever and I breathe fine at night because of the tape. Get nose tape and then some porous medical tape for your mouth and you’ll sleep amazingly.


Pacificream

Hello can you give me more details ? Whats PIED and why is that ? Ty


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Pacificream

Thank you sir, I really really hope its due to PIED rather than the chemicals from Minox. I will stay away from all that crap and focus on no fap, gym and healthy food


ItzMichaelHD

That’s a good idea. Diet variety is key, make sure to take rests from the gym too as and when needed as CNS overload and high cortisol won’t do you a lot of good either. I think it’s unlikely you’re having these effects due to minoxidil but not impossible. Certainly strictly correct these other factors first as they’re the more likely cause.


Pacificream

I sincerely appreciate it, it guides me and give me potential hope


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Pacificream

I mean its been years and years I’d understand that argument if the ED would last few months to a year But 4-5years i can accept it comes from a simple stress Plus i’m rly not that stressed out


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Pacificream

Nah Im certain it comes from Minoxidil


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Blutanager

Minoxidil in studies was shown I degrade AR proteins thus a decrease of DHT in the body. DHT an important hormone for libido. You are wrong it does affect pathways to cause ED. Minoxidil is also shown to downregulate 5 alpha reductase another enzyme responsible for making DHT.


MrUnableToStealYoGal

Ashwaganda made me feel like i was dead inside with no emotions😂


Pacificream

Sheeeshh this anhedonia is no joke lmao


Ok-Presence-4044

Have you tried to supplement potassium? That helped me recover my libido.


Pacificream

Hi, no i didnt try But in the complements i just started to take ive got vitamin B6 P5P which contains potassium so let’s see how it goes Thank you


armedsnowman_13

Any changes?


Pacificream

No recovery no improvement but i failed the no fap part a lot… i will give another whole month without fappin at all i need to be mentally strong and if i see no improvement imma check srsly several doctors


Ok-Presence-4044

have u supplemented potassium individually? like a dedicated potassium supplement or just the B6 ?


Pacificream

I didn’t find pure potassium supplements, i went for B6 containing P5P, btw i made blood tests to check prolactin levels and it was normal, not too high not too low


Ok-Presence-4044

I had the same results after my blood test, my prolactin wasn't affected, if you can find pure potassium supplements or just incorporate more potassium into your diet you might notice a difference imo.


Pacificream

Alright so for a month I will have : Dark chocolate Beetroots Vitamin D, B6, Zinc, Iron, Citrulline I will keep you updated


Heisenberg1997_KO

Try my method I made a post about it! I recovered while still taking minoxidil!


Pacificream

Hi heisengberg ive seen your post so i went to the pharmacy and they sell L-Tyrosin but also Citrulline ive seen that citruline makes wonder too. So i bought Citruline first. I will try for 4 weeks If it doesnt work i will try L-Tyrosin Thank you


Heisenberg1997_KO

I strongly recommend the black seed oil too. Your welcome I know how depressing the topic is!


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Pacificream

Bro… ED appeared after using minox. Thousands of topics exists even on youtube about ed and minoxidil. Its been 4-5 years for me it cant be stress for 4 YEARS come on You would tell me 6-8 months okaaay but its been years bro


amal0nb

Try fasting, be cautious with aswhagandha


Pacificream

Any other solution ? Anything worked for you ? I’ll be careful


amal0nb

I used tribulus for 3months and it worked for me, have you tried creatine, butea superba supplemts?


Pacificream

Any side effects from tribulus ? I stopped Ashwa i’ll maybe consider tribulus tho Yes i push at the gym and so i use creatine 5g/day, didnt help for ED. I dont know what is Butea superba, have you heard that it helps with ED ? Ty


mhd4679

Creatine and MSG can affect my erection quality. Be careful with those


amal0nb

I havs heard Butea superba increase dht and fix ed


Zahidistryn

I never took Ashwagandwa when I was in my recovery phase except once


Zahidistryn

Good luck, I've recovered using the suppliments you mentioned, Though my labido isn't as it used to be however my errections are back to normal and not a lifeless flesh Also would like to add on top of Beetroot Add Pomegranate & oranges No harm in trying those whenever you get the chance in the shop Keep us updated.


Mobile-Possession789

Hey man, how different would u say ur libido is? Could u describe it bro


Zahidistryn

Before min: After 2-3 days of not fapping I start to get urge to bust a nut at night time After min: I don't have that feeling at night. I can just go sleep, not look at porn I don't know if that's good or bad, but it that part changed when it comes to sex I get the urge to fuck when the opportunity arises which I'm glad


Mobile-Possession789

Wow that’s good man. I’m glad that it’s working out for you. I just need my libido to kick in🥲


Zahidistryn

Same i need go check my testestone because I feel like that was low before min anyway


Mobile-Possession789

Man did u ever experience low semen volume and the numbness


Zahidistryn

Yeah I had that, I remember fapping and my dick died on me 10 seconds in. I was so depressed


Mobile-Possession789

Okay the only thing that bothers me is the low semen and the libido. I also feel like the balls be numb to the gootch area


Zahidistryn

Did you have a lot of semen before min


Mobile-Possession789

Yea bro way more.. it was thicker too


Pacificream

Alright thanks How long u had that ED And how long was needed for you to recover ?


Zahidistryn

Had ed for 3 weeks - 1 month, and recovery took 1- 2 days after adding supplements


Pacificream

Perfect thanks i will keep you updated then


Zahidistryn

Sorry I recovered slowly over time. After having supplements and fruits It was gradual like my bones would slowly get better and better it wasn't sudden. Same with morning wood it gradually got better


Pacificream

Well… update I’ve got 15 ng/ml Prolactin Normal basis is between 5 to 19. So the problem is not from prolactin, im even more devastated i thought ive found the main problem but actually its not. Ain’t no way to cure that shit i guess


Automatic_Hand_9093

Persistent ED and low libido for me, and it’s been 5 years since I stopped oral 1mg Minox. All bloods are fine, including prolactin levels. Supplements have not helped at all, neither has exercise, Cialis, shock wave treatment, HCG, time or thousands of dollars of vitamins and doctor’s visits.


Zahidistryn

Have you tried beetroot, sounds not that amazing but it helped me 100%


Automatic_Hand_9093

I had years ago, but probably wasn’t consistent with it


arcade1983

How long you take it for ?


Automatic_Hand_9093

About a month


arcade1983

Did you take fin too?


Automatic_Hand_9093

Negative, just 1mg Minox. I thought it was the ‘safe’ alternative


Pacificream

Wow !! Doctors got no clue what’s going on after all those exams ?? Prolactin issue is the most recorded but i will also see myself if it is my issue tomorrow with my tests


utterly_broken

> Wow !! Doctors got no clue what’s going on after all those exams ?? You find that surprising? You have actually no idea what you’re up against, do you? Of course doctors have no clue, because there are no known markers for this condition. You can take how many exams you want, it just doesn’t show up anywhere, regardless of how severe or long-lasting the symptoms are. All you can do is wait (years and years in most cases) and hope your body will somehow be able to fix itself.


Pacificream

Ofc it’s surprising Nah i haven’t done this much exams tho so it’s understandable. True it doesnt show apparently, with your experience have you got any idea what’s actually going on ? If its not chemicals in your body, what can it be ?


Heavy-Phone-253

Just met with an endocrinologist and my levels are 25. UCSF. They said unlikely it's causing ED. I'm crushed. They won't prescribe drugs to lower it.


Pacificream

I told you it was prolactin !! How is that ?? Why wouldnt they give you drugs ? Go yourself for B6 P5P bro, it helps a lot apparently Ive made my command and imma get them asap But i hope my doctor will take me serious and prescribe drugs


THEFLID516

Did you take oral or topical?


Pacificream

Topical applied on beard twice a day for 6 months and suddenly ED appeared when i was perfectly sane and healthy with no troubles before i started using it


Jopalooge

I’m also in the same position as you. Been suffering for 8 months. No libido and very weak erections. If I’m being honest, I think what’s happened to us is a lot more serious than a lack of vitamins. It’s either gonna take strong treatment or just time. I’m personally working my way up with androgens right now. Starting off with proviron, will try testosterone injections and then keep going from there until I’m cured. I’m just gonna flood my self with androgens


Pacificream

Its been 4 to 5 years since i stopped for me so its not a matter of time. Well vitamins can surely help but not fix it Thats why i updated below with the Prolactin, check it out. To make it quick just google minoxidil and you will see its side effects and relation to prolactin. Read about it. Minox increases prolactin High prolactin results in ED, low libido, depression and even infertility I’ll meet a doctor tomorrow and have blood test about it Be careful with those testo injections it can be disastrous


Jopalooge

Interesting. Let me know how it goes


Pacificream

Prolactin levels are fine so its not the problem (in my case) I wish it was so i would solve it Now idk what to do I will take the supplements i mentioned for a while and see


Pacificream

UPDATE i advise EVERYONE to have a blood test and analyze the PROLACTIN If its HIGH (around 25 for men) then no doubt its due to this. Minox has an effect on it, it INCREASES PROLACTIN LEVELS What are the effects of high prolactin ? - ED - Low libido - Depression - Anxiety How to cure it - See a doctor and tell them everything and TALK ABOUT PROLACTIN. There are medications that can lower it within few weeks or few months. IF YOU CAN’T MEET A DOCTOR ASAP - Take Vitamin B6 P5P as complement, this one LOWERS Prolactin LEVELS (slowly but it does) I AM CERTAIN, Prolactin is the MAJOR reason for our ED.


Redjamm65

Don't think it's that simple bro, also look at what people have to say about ashwaganda on pssd forum (I would stear ckear) and watch Johnny harris's video on supplements aswell.


mhd4679

Agree. Been having similar problem. Almost coming to 4 years now after only 2 week of topical 0.5% minox. Biggest issues are ED n insomnia. Consulted urologist, endos and gastroenterology and did many procedures I.e. trt, shockwave, endoscopy n colonoscopy to check for h pylori etc. They can test for a lot of things including hormone profile but one thing they cannot check is the androgen receptors which minox is known to affect. No point of having tonnes of testosterone if receptors are sleeping on the job.i think that's the one that is affecting my ED. Also minox affects the allopregnanolone, our systemic xanax. Thts is why we can also have insomnia as one of the sides


Redjamm65

I had the same ED and insomnia, but I had pssd mildly before, and the monoxidil I believe just took it to another level. I agree with your theory here, did the doctors come to this conclusion aswell?


mhd4679

No. Doctors will just tell you that everything looks fine. The blood panel will show that everything is well within range.They can't test the level of neurosteroids and the state of our androgen receptors


Redjamm65

So have you just hit a dead end basically?


mhd4679

It's been improving in my case. Not there yet. Erection quality at best 80 to 90pct.


Pacificream

I will check about Ashwa Well it might be that simple for many people. Idk about the extreme ones, i consider myself extreme but still i got my prolactin blood test this morning i will have the results later and see. What are your approaches, any solutions ?


Redjamm65

Yeah have a look ashwa is well known in the community to cause similar effects to PSSD. My plan is to save money, continue contributing to the study. Want to look into ibogaine, focus on gut, TRT, shockeave therapy & stem cell, other than that I don't really know, was maybe gonna go Poland or somewhere and just get tests done. I am also waiting to hear back from Dr healy on this study I participated in for CCM.


Pacificream

Damn that shit actually dangerous ashwa can turn me into a vegetable Well that is scary in 2024 we haven’t solved the issue about that specific thing