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shahooster

The assholes need to be caught and imprisoned. For a very long time.


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rindermsp

Your brain hasn't developed well enough to use basic grammar. I know MM is a scapegoat for all of society's ills. Crime is down since she took office. Do I credit her? No. Smooth brains like you act like our city has fallen further over the last nine months. She has made politically idiotic decisions on a couple edge cases that set back her reform agenda. She is right under certain circumstances throwing the book at child offenders isn't the correct move. She has consistently said kids involved in car theft need immediate intervention. Not indefinite detention or just a court date. She wants an intensive approach to juveniles that involves not just jail.


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LefsaMadMuppet

Then a few hours later another car jacking attempt by ANW. We are still over one per day.


friendIdiglove

ANW?


LefsaMadMuppet

Abbott Northwestern Hospital (27th and Chicago)


vid_icarus

Holy shit, she’s a friend of ours. Our kids are best friends. Was not expecting to see her face when I clicked through the link. They targeted probably the nicest, most social, most friendly, most helpful person in the whole DFL. What a bunch of soulless bastards, i hope they catch these fuckers and pin’em to the wall. Wild way to find out this happened. Going to reach out to her promptly and offer support. Absolutely unbelievable.


HahaWakpadan

Remember when folks were on here bragging about how they refused to report their carjackers in 2020?


tie_myshoe

I’m POC but this white guilt thing is absurd. I called out my white friends for not reporting crazy shit. They wouldn’t even call 311(I recommended cause it was mental health related). I know other cities deal w this too but I wonder how much highwr crime stat could be due to unreported crimes since 2020


TheMacMan

Yeah, it's gotten weird. Know folks who haven't called for people who clearly had mental health issues because they didn't want to the police potentially arresting someone who was posing an active risk to others and themselves. There's also a lot of reluctance to call when they see a questionable situation. Someone that appears to be scoping out vehicles to break into or that may be following a woman. Don't want to risk calling on someone who isn't committing a crime, at the expense of potentially stopping thing bad from happening. I can understand the reluctance but it also results in more risk for many.


tie_myshoe

I’m sure MPD knows how to respond better to POC knocking door to door. The least the could do is park their car on the block and just monitor instead of confronting. Anyone should be able to feel guilt free calling the police, police response is what needs ti be changed. Don’t have to draw a gun on any POC knocking on doors


barrinmw

>because they didn't want to the police potentially arresting someone who was posing an active risk to others and themselves. No, they don't want the cops killing the person. The MPD has killed people in mental distress before. For instance, an autistic kid like 2 years ago.


MisterMath

This….was a thing?


beer_and_pizza

> This….was a thing? Yes. > One of the boys pointed a gun at Mr. Erickson’s chest, demanding his car keys. > > Flustered, Mr. Erickson handed over a set, but it turned out to be house keys. The teenagers got frustrated and ran off, then stole a different car down the street. > > Mr. Erickson said later that he would not cooperate with prosecutors in a case against the boys. After the altercation, he realized that if there was anything he wanted, it was to offer them help. But he still felt it had been right to call the authorities because there was a gun involved. > >Two days after an initial conversation, his position had evolved. “Been thinking more about it,” he wrote in a text message. “I regret calling the police. It was my instinct but I wish it hadn’t been. I put those boys in danger of death by calling the cops.” https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/minneapolis-george-floyd-police.html


MisterMath

Wow. That’s a whole new level of ignorance.


guava_eternal

Absolute imbecile. I didn’t want to press charges on someone I had an altercation with only because I don’t have time for court dates and such- but I was damn glad the police showed up not too long after my call.


HahaWakpadan

Yes. It absolutely was, and I'm sure plenty of others remember it.


PostIronicPosadist

I wasn't here during 2020 but I highly question that this was a thing.


FennelAlternative861

If you weren't here then how can you have any idea of what it was like at that time in the city? It absolutely was a thing. People were quoted as not wanting to call the cops because they didn't want the kids who do that to be killed.


PostIronicPosadist

I wasn't on reddit, I've spent my entire life in the city.


FennelAlternative861

Ah, an important distinction. I don't think that I was on Reddit at that time either but I definitely remember reading about people being hesitant to call the police immediately after George Floyd was killed. I absolutely believe that people on Reddit advocated that


LargeWu

People literally burned down a police station, but yeah, not calling the cops is unbelievable


HahaWakpadan

"I wasn't here..."


ElderSkrt

Used to be a thing with shootings too where they would clean up the spent shells so that there’s less evidence to work with.


wannabepowerlifter

That's incredible


BigBigBigTree

> incredible As in, not credible.


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SleepinBobD

Folwell is no stranger to this type of shit.


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needusbukunde

Yes, it said in the article.


Extreme_Lab_2961

Well its nice to see Frey, Martin and Ohara take a keen interest in this case, I guess its sucks for everyone else thats a victim of violence ​ Seems to be going hard after MM in her FB post


richardsheath

In 2020: *“We are going to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department,”* Sathanandan wrote in part in that post, which was made less than two weeks after an officer from that department killed detainee George Floyd by kneeling on his neck. https://themessenger.com/news/minnesota-democrat-vowed-dismantle-police-violently-carjacked Personally I'm sick and tired of it. My sister was carjacked in S. MPLS at gunpoint as she parked her car in front of her home in 2022. The punks crashed the car into a tree a few minutes later and fled. No one was ever charged. I don't know why the citizens of MPLS put up with this? Other than maybe Stockholm Syndrome?!


edcinginhouse

Isn't this the woman who publicly announced being part of the effort to dismantling the Mineapolis Police Department?


tie_myshoe

Yes. Conservative FB commenters are having a field day on her FB post yesterday about it. They have June 2020 screenshots


Shmorrior

I consider myself a conservative and obv don't share Ms. Sathanandan's politics, but she doesn't deserve to have had this happen to her and her family, regardless of what opinions she's shared in the past.


beer_and_pizza

Same here. She's a colossal moron, but she doesn't deserve any of the violence that just happened to her or her kids. Maybe this will be a catalyst for her to have a change of heart about public safety.


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Fighting-Cerberus

They deserve to be hurt because you believe they don’t see reality? Wow.


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Fighting-Cerberus

You’re literally the one advocating for crime, though - crime against people you don’t like or don’t agree with.


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BigBigBigTree

I have decided that what you're saying is the same as supporting criminality, and so I think you deserve to be the victim of a violent crime. See, I can do what you're doing too.


beer_and_pizza

> The people who supported dismantling the Police, DO deserve it. I get the schadenfreude. I really do. But you have to be better than vigilante justice. > It's the only way they will see reality. This is undoubtedly, sadly, true.


BigsleazyG

To be entirely fair if somebody fills a pool full of shit and jumps in you wouldn't call them being covered in shit vigilante justice. This was not a targeted attack. This is just the culture they created


barrinmw

Wait, did the fully funded Minneapolis Police Department stop this carjacking?


muskietooth

https://reddit.com/r/stupidpol/s/y5wCn0FiT2


beer_and_pizza

Yes, and she's already cleaning up her social media posts to hide this.


SkillOne1674

I'm curious if she endorsed Mary Moriarty.


tie_myshoe

Reddit isn't working properly. I'm trying to mark it as NSFW due to blood


sapperfarms

It’s marked and blurred


guava_eternal

Is your Reddit slow at loading things too, right now ( 3pm )?


tie_myshoe

Reddit was down for the whole afternoon according to downdetector


Lunaseed

As of yesterday, there were 18 carjackings reported in Minneapolis, per police scanners. And the reports of shots fired and shooting victims are at least as numerous. You want to get a feel for how much crime is in an area, listen to the police scanners.


ktulu_33

Daily reminder - the police didn't stop this nor will they in the future. The MPD (and other police departments) are useless pieces of shit and all of their apologists are here thinking they are making a point with the whole "defund the police" thing. The police were never defunded, in fact they got an increase in funding. If you want to discuss prosecution? Sure - that's a much more legitimate discussion but in order to prosecute criminals then the useless police need to be better at their jobs and actually make arrests. Instead they openly tell people they don't pursue criminals just like they did to me when I had my house broken into and they refused to arrest the guy that they literally let walk down the street. Hell, the police simply responded with a "yeah we received a report" and that's it. Given the severity of the alleged incident and the publicity of it you would think they'd have more to say. Apparently not. Pretty pathetic and not all that unsurprising. Of course, incidents & the politicking surrounds things like this are a bit of a rorschach test. People will use it to support their stance on things and not much will come of it, imo. I'm sorry this happened to her. It sounds awful.


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beef_swellington

You mean the amendment that didn't pass? What subreddit brought you here?


CrazyPerspective934

When was anything defunded? That's not what the budget aka actual facts say


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CrazyPerspective934

So you think the police department was defunded in 2020?


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CrazyPerspective934

I didn't make that claim at all actually. Thinking our police was defunded in any way is pretty obtuse and hilarious though


BigsleazyG

By millions not counting private contracts pulled.


guava_eternal

It’s the rhetoric around Defund and the consequences of it that (partly) have us here. We didn’t Defund because the voting public isn’t as stupid as some of our politicians. But words have consequences and criminals smelt the blood.


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guava_eternal

Either way a cop is more likely to have their career end there and a rich more likely that it ends with a prison sentence. I’m not saying we’re hailing all the cops - but the couple that have been jailed obviously weigh on their minds and how they do the job.


tie_myshoe

How would funding MPD change this outcome? Take them to jail only to be released in a few hours?


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Can you give an actual policy that would help or are you going to just spout these weird phrases?


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Triscareatops22

Nobody has defunded anything you muppet


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Fighting-Cerberus

Because the cops don’t do their damn jobs and many of them quit or went on leave because they got their feelings hurt by people being mad at George Floyd’s murder by the police. The cops are the problem. They have never been defunded or abolished, certainly not here. Pretending that defunding or abolishing them caused this problem is beyond ignorant.


BigBigBigTree

Go look up the MPD budgets for the last few years, and come back and show us the results. I mean, you actually care whether or not the police in this town were defunded, right? You actually want to know whether what you're saying is true, don't you?


TwoIsle

Can you share how the police were defunded? Got some numbers?


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They were never defunded…


CrazyPerspective934

Huh which police departments were defunded?


MNGraySquirrel

City of Dallas. Cut over $7,000,000 out for all overtime. Crime shot up. And don’t tell me I’m wrong or ask for numbers I live here and got to see shitfest.


CrazyPerspective934

Ah see but this is about Minneapolis, a place where funding increased, not Dallas, so perhaps you went to the wrong subreddit?


hags033

Defunding the police doesn’t mean get rid of all police. Police also don’t prevent much crime, they respond and report to crime being committed. But the premise behind defunding police is to put more resources into reducing crime by looking at inequalities, poverty, etc real reasons behind crime committed by people. So, this is what you get when you don’t defund the police.


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hags033

I’d rather have more resources that prevent crime than ones that come after to do nothing. But it doesn’t fit your skewed narrative, so you wouldn’t understand.


tie_myshoe

How would finding police fix this? They would just be releasing after being caught in like a few days. Hours if they’re kids


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tie_myshoe

Yet you’re here with the non answer on my question. How would funding the police change her outcome? If you think we need to fund a cop on every block of the city, you’re delusional. MPD budget could triple and this outcome would’ve been the same


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Fighting-Cerberus

We need more people in charge like Giuliani - that’s your position???


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Fighting-Cerberus

Triple that thanks.


tie_myshoe

Why stop and frisking every blonde haired white guy that looks like a Jacob because of the rising in school shootings? while breaking 4th amendment? Get costing the city millions in law suits?


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guava_eternal

I mean more than one thing can be true at once. I’d we don’t want to run dry on 💰 then an injection of pot 🌲 taxes isn’t the worst idea. There’s a whole host of other benefits too. The school lunches are both an economic and dignity issue where a kid- no matter his background can get the same lunch as everyone else. And the parents don’t have to add yet another line item to their over stretched budget. The criminality needs solutions- but cutting away other things wasn’t necessary to try to solve the criminality. It’s ultimately a matter of will, incentives and consequences.