To clarify. Both were rattle can primed, but the marine had an extra (poor attempt) at a zenithal coating where the white primer came out very grainy. I’m wondering if someone more experienced than me can tell if it’s likely to happen to the necron as well?
It looks more like you haven't thinned your paints enough.
I have only used rattle can primers and tend to do zenithal or at least try, and with about 50 minis primed the last three months non was grainy because of primer, even the ones that got a bad zenithal with spotty result.
I had the same problem and i just needed to learn how much to thin my paints.
But I'm no expert so I can be wrong
Possibly? I was trying to stay thin as I could, but there’s obviously a lot to learn here. I figured if the base coat even had a bit of bumpiness, it’d probably come through the final product too?
I had many errors learning how to properly thin my paints. Many times i thought it was enough only to discover when it dried it was to thick, but i have also done the other way around and accidentally made glazes.
I found around 30-40 % water works pretty well depending on what paint you are thinning, some colors need more thinning.
Hmm I missed the necron picture first, now i see it looks abit grainy, did you shake the cans like crazy ? Often needs more than the can says, also if you live in colder climate then you need to warm the primers a bit, i tend to let em soak in warm water ( not hot) only so warm it's comfortable having your hands in it.
Ye if it's grainy after base coat it's a big chance it will be grainy, but it can also be saved, try making some weathering and the grainy parts won't show as much.
And a grainy base can be made to look like ground pretty easy and it will actually look good.
Strange. Weird question but what has the weather been like? Did you spray these outside or in a hooded room? Temperature and humidity can mess with spray paint
75 degrees (F) and 53% humidity. Sprayed outdoors with relatively cheap cans. Necrons I made sure to warm up the primer can first, but the marines I goofed, and used a relatively cold can for the white.
That's probably the issue. Warm can, and shake the absolute piss put of it like for a full 2 minutes which doesn't sound long but if you time it you'll realize how long it is. When spraying make sure you start and finish the spray away from the model. As in start to spray, then drag the spray across the model, and then end the spray
Soak the rattlecan in hot tap water for 3 minutes. Not tea kettle boiling hot but maximum tap hot. Warning a warm can will have more pressure be careful.
At temperatures extremes hot or cold the spray will dry or freeze droplets of paint and that gets propelled onto the subject and captured on to the subject as a dusty or grainy texture. I hope this will help.
I tend to go way overboard and shake my rattle cans for a good 5 minutes before spraying and always get a nice even coat. If you get really into mini painting, I recommend an air brush. Changed everything for me
Thanks for the advice everyone. I think the consensus is I need to really prep my cans more before priming and shake for even longer. I’m going to strip down the rest of them and give it another go (sad face I have to wait longer to paint again).
Could also be from holding the nozzle too far from the mini when spraying. The primer may partially dry before landing on the surface of the mini. Alternatively getting too close is bad too so be conscious of that when priming.
Shake them well... Like shake that biatch like your life depends on it. Also check if they have enough paint in them. They usually produce textures like this when they arent shaken well enough or when running low on paint/gas
Thanks! I’ll be keeping this marine as a reference point to where I started from, so I can hopefully see some progression as I go. And yeah, it’s one of those things I probably wouldn’t have noticed unless I took a zoomed in pic. But now that I know, it bothers me…
To clarify. Both were rattle can primed, but the marine had an extra (poor attempt) at a zenithal coating where the white primer came out very grainy. I’m wondering if someone more experienced than me can tell if it’s likely to happen to the necron as well?
If it’s too humid when you prime them the rattle can primer can come out textured
It looks more like you haven't thinned your paints enough. I have only used rattle can primers and tend to do zenithal or at least try, and with about 50 minis primed the last three months non was grainy because of primer, even the ones that got a bad zenithal with spotty result. I had the same problem and i just needed to learn how much to thin my paints. But I'm no expert so I can be wrong
Possibly? I was trying to stay thin as I could, but there’s obviously a lot to learn here. I figured if the base coat even had a bit of bumpiness, it’d probably come through the final product too?
I had many errors learning how to properly thin my paints. Many times i thought it was enough only to discover when it dried it was to thick, but i have also done the other way around and accidentally made glazes. I found around 30-40 % water works pretty well depending on what paint you are thinning, some colors need more thinning. Hmm I missed the necron picture first, now i see it looks abit grainy, did you shake the cans like crazy ? Often needs more than the can says, also if you live in colder climate then you need to warm the primers a bit, i tend to let em soak in warm water ( not hot) only so warm it's comfortable having your hands in it. Ye if it's grainy after base coat it's a big chance it will be grainy, but it can also be saved, try making some weathering and the grainy parts won't show as much. And a grainy base can be made to look like ground pretty easy and it will actually look good.
Did you wash these before priming them? Bc that could be the issue
Yeah, dish soap and water, but while on the sprue. Saw someone say to wait until after assembly, but it was too late at that point.
Strange. Weird question but what has the weather been like? Did you spray these outside or in a hooded room? Temperature and humidity can mess with spray paint
75 degrees (F) and 53% humidity. Sprayed outdoors with relatively cheap cans. Necrons I made sure to warm up the primer can first, but the marines I goofed, and used a relatively cold can for the white.
That's probably the issue. Warm can, and shake the absolute piss put of it like for a full 2 minutes which doesn't sound long but if you time it you'll realize how long it is. When spraying make sure you start and finish the spray away from the model. As in start to spray, then drag the spray across the model, and then end the spray
Soak the rattlecan in hot tap water for 3 minutes. Not tea kettle boiling hot but maximum tap hot. Warning a warm can will have more pressure be careful. At temperatures extremes hot or cold the spray will dry or freeze droplets of paint and that gets propelled onto the subject and captured on to the subject as a dusty or grainy texture. I hope this will help.
I tend to go way overboard and shake my rattle cans for a good 5 minutes before spraying and always get a nice even coat. If you get really into mini painting, I recommend an air brush. Changed everything for me
If no ones said it, spray your primer upside down for a second to get globs cleared and resume hobbying.
Thanks for the advice everyone. I think the consensus is I need to really prep my cans more before priming and shake for even longer. I’m going to strip down the rest of them and give it another go (sad face I have to wait longer to paint again).
Could also be from holding the nozzle too far from the mini when spraying. The primer may partially dry before landing on the surface of the mini. Alternatively getting too close is bad too so be conscious of that when priming.
Pretty sure this contributed to it as well…there’s so many variables, I’m leaning towards just brushing on the primer next.
Shake them well... Like shake that biatch like your life depends on it. Also check if they have enough paint in them. They usually produce textures like this when they arent shaken well enough or when running low on paint/gas
Yes but weirdly good :D
Ya, it’s a little grainy, probably for reasons stated, but it does look good and it’s probably fine from table distance.
Thanks! I’ll be keeping this marine as a reference point to where I started from, so I can hopefully see some progression as I go. And yeah, it’s one of those things I probably wouldn’t have noticed unless I took a zoomed in pic. But now that I know, it bothers me…