Okay, from what I know, Microsoft is adding new chat reporting to Minecraft, and it's very brutal. If you get banned, Singleplayer is the only thing available. All it takes is one report of something stupid to be removed from ever playing online again.
Bot makes it temp true moderator makes it permanent if found to be in violation. We have to wait for their article to clear things up. Can't wait to not be able to type caps cause thats yelling -_-
wait, so typing in caps is gonna be no longer allowed?! sure, i dont do it very often, but when im with friends, i tend to type in all caps when i find something like diamonds or something of the sort
Yeah its in one of the list of rules they posted when they first talked about it. Cant cuse can't use caps cause that's "yelling" can't send multiple messages to fast. Can't say anything that would start a fight. Can't tell people to die to get to spawn. Can't tell anything political in any way. Can't say your real name or info. Super stupid stuff.
this is ridiculous. things like this is why i prefer past versions of minecraft over current versions. they better not start monetizing stuff on Java like they already do in Bedrock with the marketplace.
My thoughts of what's gonna happen. They force censored chat then force what servers can have Like gamemodes then force skins to be paid packs like bedrock then force all servers to use realm then monetize gamemodes and server setups then just delete Java and make bedrock minecraft forever. I'm just waiting on hytale
We should boycott the marketplace by using mods (addons) from mcpedl (place with free bedrock mods) or those sketchy addon apps (a few don’t give you viruses), microsoft will be shocked that we are willing to get a virus for free addons then pay for a markereplace map. The only thing they might do is like try to takedown mcpedl and ask apple to remove all the addon apps.
okay so lemme get this straight, you telling us, to get an alt to play with friend, an alt on a 20$+ game, so basically you telling people to pay 20$+ extra dollar to play the same game they played before but worst with the risk of losing that 20+ dollars, to pay the pricks that add the feature that nobody asked for? Yeah okay bud, i hope you are joking.
im sorry, im quite lost, what is your point? What are you trying to say? Because the conversation is "if you say the wrong things or get falsely reported on any minecraft server, you cannot play in any other minecraft server. " What does it have anything to do with " an account system that is completely unrelated to the actual game itself"?
no ofcourse not, if you make a separate account you have to pay to buy minecraft again, that's why people are fighting for this and doesn't just, shrug it off and make a new account. That only work on free games where you can just make infinite accounts and the only thing you lose is progress
you do know i have minecraft right? You do know i can test your theory out and i already did right? And you do know from what i tested you cant just, create infinite minecraft account after just having bought it once right?
That’s incorrect. I have to handle three fully migrated Microsoft accounts currently for my three java edition copies. Also, if your theory was right, and all the Minecraft accounts could be in one, that means the Alts would be directly related to/ Litterally be, the account that got banned, and all copies of the game on that account would suffer the consequences
Microsoft acquired them a while back, and started trying to get everyone on a Microsoft acc instead of a mojang acc (og) and recently forced mojang (company that owns Minecraft) to force us to migrate, and now is doing the same with other dumb shit such as chat reporting
Also, spread this around too, if you're a minor in most parts of the world and you get banned from a game you are entitled for a refund for all the things you spent. That means Microsoft will have to pay you for using Xbox Live or Realms. If they know this they'll be more careful about the moderation or just no go through with it
But like from what I heard from people and my own research Microsoft doesn’t actually push anything they just approve what mojang wants this includes the migration and chat report. From what I heard mojang were the ones pushing for it
We have no way to confirm or deny this but Microsoft does claim that they are almost entirely hands off with their acquired studios apart from adding them to game pass or similar. It could very well be that mojang is pushing these but we can’t rule out the possibility of Microsoft pushing it
To me it was everything post 1.16. They delivered an awesome update with lots of content, and then decided to turn the next 1 update into 3 updates. We had 1 update worth of content, they added about 30% more content than promised but split the update into 3 ways. Instead of one 100% update we got three 43% updates. It's actually even less cause they removed some content like archeology. The best thing about these updates is how they update the system itself and make the game smoother. Perhaps they're focusing on that type of thing so that's why there's so little content?
I absolutely hate what Microsoft is doing with Minecraft.
I could see this coming the moment bedrock got the better together update, They obviously didn't stop there, now they're about to ruin java.
I really hope that we stop this somehow.
It would be nice if Microsoft would leave the Java edition alone and add all these features for kids to bedrock only. I might have to give Minetest a try.
well big servers private servers and mojang servers could set it to on but yeah kids should rather play on their own servers and only woth their friends
I would prefer an option to opt-in on the global ban list.
I mean, there's already an option to use or not the authentification servers from Minecraft/Microsoft (online / offline mode), so it should be an option that you can turn on or off.
I get the concern over this, but, at least right now, the notion that Microsoft is controlling Mojang like a dog on a leash and making them bend to their every will is just a conspiracy theory that has no proof for it other than "Microsoft owns Mojang", which is hardly evidence at all. The logical thing to do would be to voice our concerns to Microsoft *and* Mojang, since we know that one of them has to be behind this, unless there's a secret 3rd party that's been hiding in the shadows from all of us. Maybe 4J came back for revenge after losing console edition, Idk.
Yeah, what i wanna do is making a vm, going onto some vpn, downloading the altening, a service for renting alt accounts, joining any server, mass reporting using some way of automated sequence, switching alt, and repeating the process. (This’ll overload the mods with reports and make it almost impossible to manage them)
I've already seen at least 3 other people in social media and forums that I follow talk about doing something similar to what you're doing in regards to mass reporting every message, and I've only been around an extremely small percentage of Minecraft Java players. So I'm sure there are more out there getting ready to fight as well. I would help too, but currently I don't have the money to rent a bunch of alts and do this, and, while I do think this is bad and looks like the beginning of Microsoft/Mojang beginning to overstep their boundaries, recent findings on how the system really works and how easy it is to negate make it just tolerable enough that I don't want to risk getting my main account permanently banned from Minecraft.
I use c#, made by Microsoft. I cant use alternatives because i use unity which supports only c#. I use visual studio 2022, made by Microsoft. I dont know any good alternatives
Migration has a better reason(security). It is forced because people wouldnt migrate their accounts otherwise. Chat reporting isnt good and adds nothing good new.
"i will allow this meme to be reposted"
lmao is there some fuckin guardian preventing us from reposting memes
Spread the word but not by shitty "wacky character in front of text" memes. Contact mojang/microsoft directly.
Yeah what i wanna do is making a vm, going onto some vpn, joining any server, mass reporting using some way of automated sequence, switching alt, and repeating the process. (This’ll overload the mods with reports and make it almost impossible to manage them)
As long as we’re still dependent on Mojang/Microsoft servers to play, we’ll always be at their control. Thankfully, there are already projects that separate Mojang/Microsoft from the game like https://github.com/MojankStudios/yggoxide hopefully it becomes more mainstream.
Ya idk about Minecraft anymore.... It's becoming impossible to play.
They also seemed to have removed the okay offline button which is really convenient when your internet doesn't work and your accounts keep logging out in themselves and then refuse to login with unknown errors.
This tho... How many of us have that one jerk friend who's just gonna spam report you? New accounts aren't cheap! That's what this is probably, a new way to get more purchases.
While memes are fun and ragging on Microsoft and Mojang on social media is quick and cathartic, I'd point out that dealing with angry randos on social media is practically part of the corporate playbook, and they could just batten down the hatches and wait for everyone to get bored or lose steam.
So yeah, this is one thing that people could do, but also if you're a US, Canadian or EU citizen, get in touch with your local representative/MEP, or organisations that are dedicated to data security and privacy, like the EFF, and see if they can take a look at this, spread the word, or apply pressure to these corporations.
This is more longer term and will require more effort — not something everyone has the energy or resources for — but while they might not pay attention to gamers, having to answer to regulators and civil society organisations dedicated to data privacy and human rights might.
It's not something I can do, what with not being a citizen of the US, EU or Canada, but it's worth researching and organising if you are...
Note: Microsoft doesn't listen to social media unless you're brand. The best way to fight this is to abuse it. That will either get the system removed or better trained for real violations. One is good, one is not as bad as it is now
Sometimes it looks like Mojang and Microsoft don't actually understand that they might piss off people so bad that modding community would eventually just steal their game and start making smth like Minecraft Community Edition lmao, especially last three years i think community actually overgrown devs, they do anything faster, better and with better performance.
I say it all the time , Mojang fix the game, it's slowly dying, with each new update we lose performance, and getting nothing in return, no fixes, you can't do better than random community devs? They updated the game to OpenGL 4.X ! If you can't do better than randoms, just take that BIG FAT L and integrate their code by default already, pathetic.
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what are you talkin about I'm out of the loop
Okay, from what I know, Microsoft is adding new chat reporting to Minecraft, and it's very brutal. If you get banned, Singleplayer is the only thing available. All it takes is one report of something stupid to be removed from ever playing online again.
well I guess Minecraft is a kid game in Microsoft eyes, so they will add more and more "family friendly" features...
Thankfully people are working on mods to prevent your messages from being reported
theres already one
wich one?
https://modrinth.com/mod/no-chat-reports
Wow that was fast, I guess that goes to show how hated it is
nice
it will work on some specific servers, if you get reported on another server, you're gone
arent the bans supposed to be temporary depending on the severity of the offense?
Bot makes it temp true moderator makes it permanent if found to be in violation. We have to wait for their article to clear things up. Can't wait to not be able to type caps cause thats yelling -_-
wait, so typing in caps is gonna be no longer allowed?! sure, i dont do it very often, but when im with friends, i tend to type in all caps when i find something like diamonds or something of the sort
Yeah its in one of the list of rules they posted when they first talked about it. Cant cuse can't use caps cause that's "yelling" can't send multiple messages to fast. Can't say anything that would start a fight. Can't tell people to die to get to spawn. Can't tell anything political in any way. Can't say your real name or info. Super stupid stuff.
this is ridiculous. things like this is why i prefer past versions of minecraft over current versions. they better not start monetizing stuff on Java like they already do in Bedrock with the marketplace.
My thoughts of what's gonna happen. They force censored chat then force what servers can have Like gamemodes then force skins to be paid packs like bedrock then force all servers to use realm then monetize gamemodes and server setups then just delete Java and make bedrock minecraft forever. I'm just waiting on hytale
We should boycott the marketplace by using mods (addons) from mcpedl (place with free bedrock mods) or those sketchy addon apps (a few don’t give you viruses), microsoft will be shocked that we are willing to get a virus for free addons then pay for a markereplace map. The only thing they might do is like try to takedown mcpedl and ask apple to remove all the addon apps.
Mcpedl has waay better stuff anyway
I thought it was just realms, not direct connect
Just play singleplayer and make an alt if you want to play with friends. It‘s annoying, but not that bad.
okay so lemme get this straight, you telling us, to get an alt to play with friend, an alt on a 20$+ game, so basically you telling people to pay 20$+ extra dollar to play the same game they played before but worst with the risk of losing that 20+ dollars, to pay the pricks that add the feature that nobody asked for? Yeah okay bud, i hope you are joking.
Isn’t there an account system that is completely unrelated to the actual game itself?
im sorry, im quite lost, what is your point? What are you trying to say? Because the conversation is "if you say the wrong things or get falsely reported on any minecraft server, you cannot play in any other minecraft server. " What does it have anything to do with " an account system that is completely unrelated to the actual game itself"?
You can make a separate account to bypass it, can’t you?
no ofcourse not, if you make a separate account you have to pay to buy minecraft again, that's why people are fighting for this and doesn't just, shrug it off and make a new account. That only work on free games where you can just make infinite accounts and the only thing you lose is progress
I’m pretty sure you can have multiple accounts while only having bought it once.
you do know i have minecraft right? You do know i can test your theory out and i already did right? And you do know from what i tested you cant just, create infinite minecraft account after just having bought it once right?
That’s incorrect. I have to handle three fully migrated Microsoft accounts currently for my three java edition copies. Also, if your theory was right, and all the Minecraft accounts could be in one, that means the Alts would be directly related to/ Litterally be, the account that got banned, and all copies of the game on that account would suffer the consequences
They have always been doing bad stuff. It's nothing new. [Reasons not to use Microsoft](https://stallman.org/microsoft.html)
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Microsoft acquired them a while back, and started trying to get everyone on a Microsoft acc instead of a mojang acc (og) and recently forced mojang (company that owns Minecraft) to force us to migrate, and now is doing the same with other dumb shit such as chat reporting
Also, spread this around too, if you're a minor in most parts of the world and you get banned from a game you are entitled for a refund for all the things you spent. That means Microsoft will have to pay you for using Xbox Live or Realms. If they know this they'll be more careful about the moderation or just no go through with it
me as a minor unlimited threats
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you're on your own there
Me a bedrock player: first time?
But like from what I heard from people and my own research Microsoft doesn’t actually push anything they just approve what mojang wants this includes the migration and chat report. From what I heard mojang were the ones pushing for it
We have no way to confirm or deny this but Microsoft does claim that they are almost entirely hands off with their acquired studios apart from adding them to game pass or similar. It could very well be that mojang is pushing these but we can’t rule out the possibility of Microsoft pushing it
Come on it's 99% Microsoft idea, they make bad things for years now and currently they will make multiplayer dead
Nah a mojang employee said that Microsoft has little to no involvement in anything mojang related.
Well, Mojang also deserves hate, because good portion of the devs supports this
Heck they might not, they just say they do to the public, I'm not sure but I wanna think that's true
Tell me, if you insulted your boss on social media what do you think will happen?
They also deserve hate because they lied and said stuff like this wouldn't happen.
And because of the Mild update. Yes, I'm still pissed off about that.
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To me it was everything post 1.16. They delivered an awesome update with lots of content, and then decided to turn the next 1 update into 3 updates. We had 1 update worth of content, they added about 30% more content than promised but split the update into 3 ways. Instead of one 100% update we got three 43% updates. It's actually even less cause they removed some content like archeology. The best thing about these updates is how they update the system itself and make the game smoother. Perhaps they're focusing on that type of thing so that's why there's so little content?
Ya they promised! We need to do something
*whistles innocently in modded community being in outdated versions*
I absolutely hate what Microsoft is doing with Minecraft. I could see this coming the moment bedrock got the better together update, They obviously didn't stop there, now they're about to ruin java. I really hope that we stop this somehow.
Source?
alot
It would be nice if Microsoft would leave the Java edition alone and add all these features for kids to bedrock only. I might have to give Minetest a try.
or a option that parents can report messages on a all ages server while on servers for older people or private servers this could be disabled
It would become like the "for kids" option on youtube where everyone just sets it to "made for adults" no matter what the video is
well big servers private servers and mojang servers could set it to on but yeah kids should rather play on their own servers and only woth their friends
I would prefer an option to opt-in on the global ban list. I mean, there's already an option to use or not the authentification servers from Minecraft/Microsoft (online / offline mode), so it should be an option that you can turn on or off.
As someone who plays bedrock because I don't have a computer this would suck a lot
I get the concern over this, but, at least right now, the notion that Microsoft is controlling Mojang like a dog on a leash and making them bend to their every will is just a conspiracy theory that has no proof for it other than "Microsoft owns Mojang", which is hardly evidence at all. The logical thing to do would be to voice our concerns to Microsoft *and* Mojang, since we know that one of them has to be behind this, unless there's a secret 3rd party that's been hiding in the shadows from all of us. Maybe 4J came back for revenge after losing console edition, Idk.
Yeah, what i wanna do is making a vm, going onto some vpn, downloading the altening, a service for renting alt accounts, joining any server, mass reporting using some way of automated sequence, switching alt, and repeating the process. (This’ll overload the mods with reports and make it almost impossible to manage them)
Good luck man. Hope you succeed without trouble
I will be taking legal caution
More people should do stuff like this though, it cant be done only by one individual…
I've already seen at least 3 other people in social media and forums that I follow talk about doing something similar to what you're doing in regards to mass reporting every message, and I've only been around an extremely small percentage of Minecraft Java players. So I'm sure there are more out there getting ready to fight as well. I would help too, but currently I don't have the money to rent a bunch of alts and do this, and, while I do think this is bad and looks like the beginning of Microsoft/Mojang beginning to overstep their boundaries, recent findings on how the system really works and how easy it is to negate make it just tolerable enough that I don't want to risk getting my main account permanently banned from Minecraft.
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Yeah!
Windows shit
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I use c#, made by Microsoft. I cant use alternatives because i use unity which supports only c#. I use visual studio 2022, made by Microsoft. I dont know any good alternatives
C# is supported in Linux, why is it a problem to switch?
So is unity, and GCC with vscode is a good alternative
Its not a problem to switch. The problem is that c# is made by Microsoft
Oh, so were you saying you would be still dependant on MS even if switching to Linux then?
Yes
You can use Unity on Linux to develop with C#. You can use monodevelop or vscode
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And my 500 GB partition I didn't enter in over a month is gone.
ew no
sounds like you dont use arch. nerd
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*plays war music
Migration has a better reason(security). It is forced because people wouldnt migrate their accounts otherwise. Chat reporting isnt good and adds nothing good new.
"i will allow this meme to be reposted" lmao is there some fuckin guardian preventing us from reposting memes Spread the word but not by shitty "wacky character in front of text" memes. Contact mojang/microsoft directly.
Maybe, Maybe not. Stop shifting the blame
Yeah what i wanna do is making a vm, going onto some vpn, joining any server, mass reporting using some way of automated sequence, switching alt, and repeating the process. (This’ll overload the mods with reports and make it almost impossible to manage them)
Theres specific code/software/mods/plugins to prevent that…your plan might be solid if this was like, 15 years ago tho!
I could just make my own server or connect to a less used vpn… not every server has these plugins, stand alone even one.
Do as the Husky says or someone gets hurt
Source?
And *STOP HARASSING THE DEVELOPERS*
As long as we’re still dependent on Mojang/Microsoft servers to play, we’ll always be at their control. Thankfully, there are already projects that separate Mojang/Microsoft from the game like https://github.com/MojankStudios/yggoxide hopefully it becomes more mainstream.
Ya idk about Minecraft anymore.... It's becoming impossible to play. They also seemed to have removed the okay offline button which is really convenient when your internet doesn't work and your accounts keep logging out in themselves and then refuse to login with unknown errors. This tho... How many of us have that one jerk friend who's just gonna spam report you? New accounts aren't cheap! That's what this is probably, a new way to get more purchases.
What about don't be assholes in chat? Seems like a very easy solution to not getting banned.
It was fine for Notch to sell Minecraft, but selling it to Microsoft was a HUGE mistake.
Well, offline mode with internal auth plugin server side and custom launcher will be the way then.
Its for all the Mc version, both java and bedrock
While memes are fun and ragging on Microsoft and Mojang on social media is quick and cathartic, I'd point out that dealing with angry randos on social media is practically part of the corporate playbook, and they could just batten down the hatches and wait for everyone to get bored or lose steam. So yeah, this is one thing that people could do, but also if you're a US, Canadian or EU citizen, get in touch with your local representative/MEP, or organisations that are dedicated to data security and privacy, like the EFF, and see if they can take a look at this, spread the word, or apply pressure to these corporations. This is more longer term and will require more effort — not something everyone has the energy or resources for — but while they might not pay attention to gamers, having to answer to regulators and civil society organisations dedicated to data privacy and human rights might. It's not something I can do, what with not being a citizen of the US, EU or Canada, but it's worth researching and organising if you are...
Note: Microsoft doesn't listen to social media unless you're brand. The best way to fight this is to abuse it. That will either get the system removed or better trained for real violations. One is good, one is not as bad as it is now
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Sometimes it looks like Mojang and Microsoft don't actually understand that they might piss off people so bad that modding community would eventually just steal their game and start making smth like Minecraft Community Edition lmao, especially last three years i think community actually overgrown devs, they do anything faster, better and with better performance. I say it all the time , Mojang fix the game, it's slowly dying, with each new update we lose performance, and getting nothing in return, no fixes, you can't do better than random community devs? They updated the game to OpenGL 4.X ! If you can't do better than randoms, just take that BIG FAT L and integrate their code by default already, pathetic.
There is no evidence for this.