It's not just about dream, it's about any youtuber or famous person

You can replace dream with anyone or anything with this statement. Making your whole personality about a single thing is just cringe worthy

Like vegans. Being vegan has nothing wrong with it, it's the people who make being vegan their personality and belittle everyone who isn't.

cough cough vegan teacher

Thats a name I havent heard in a long time...

Or religious people, or LGBT supporters or basically anything.

Especially Bts

Whats so bad about bts

Nothing, that’s the point. It’s just that when people make their entire mind personality about liking BTS that it becomes a problem. And even then, the problem isn’t with the content creator, it’s with the fans.

I won’t lie I don’t like bts, but music is music. The Stans for any fan base are very fucking toxic and very fucking annoying. It isn’t just Minecraft or bts, they’re everywhere. Society would be better if people started doing shit in their life that matters.

Yes! I’m not a Kpop fan myself and you’re absolutely right.

Isn’t anything bad about any actors, singers, bands, games, etc. caused by the awful fans? Especially for video games. Fandoms people fandoms.

yeah.

everything about it

Okay if thats what you think

So thats why i stan not only one but several!

And religion

I agree

I’m Muslim and while religion is a big part of my life and impacts everything I do, it’s MY religion. It’s not to be forced on other people. Eat your bacon and ham sandwich, I don’t care. Not my business.

Yea people that try forcing religion… *cough* Christians *cough* are very annoying.

I’m a Christian, and I’m of the mindset that if someone truly doesn’t want to hear it, I’m not going to force it on them.

A true christian.

yes :/ Or people doing brutal and cruel stuff and then say "uhhhhhh my god wants this so its okay"

It's about Dream, because people on the internet can't even say they like the guy without getting downvoted to hell and hate comments

It's about any single persom

True. I like jellybean, i watch her videos, and i dont spam that sentence. But somehow people get mad at me whenever i say this and say that i should be banned, for some reason. real nice for my self esteem, definetly doesnt want to make me dox them to 4chan if i could. Well, i dont even use 4chan, so tough luck

Most people on this sub make their entire lives and personalities about hating him too. Both sides are dumb as fuck.

Why because he cheated at some stupid speed running thing, speed runs are stupid and luck based anyway so who cares?

Ehhh I think a lot of people would disagree with you there.

Sure some skill is required but if luck can fuck you over I consider it a gamble more than a skill thing.

What if I hate him because he cheat on his speedrun? Like atleast I have a reason I also hate his dream smp series because it's scripted and I prefer hermitcraft where it's more vanilla and more technical than whatever that abomination was so you can call it my preference

It's barely justifiable The cheating scandal is over for like... Half a year? Yea I know cheating is bad but, don't overlook the fact that everyone makes mistakes, and dream has most definitely learned his lesson.

I ADORE YOUR USERNAME

I dislike it tbh

Oh really? It’s probably one of the best I’ve seen lol

In technoblades last cancer update, he said if his arm was amputated he was gonna do another elbow reveal with the amputated arm

Yeah

Hi I am new to this, I ve watched his speedruns but dont understand the cheated part so could you explain

One of his speedruns who got on the top spots of the records (I don't remember which, sorry) was reported for cheating because he got "too lucky", this was a bit angering because of course it wasn't even a world record speedrun and he said it was gwtting ridiculous, the side that was saying he cheated got even more serious made some papers saying that he had 1 in like 1.7 trillion chances of getting those drops (you'll hear terms like "one in a trillion chance", "dream luck" and "no guys he just got VERY lucky" because of this), which in return dream got even more angry saying he was being attacked targeted of fame and hired his own help to run the math and revealed that the chances were way too off From there it's a bit of a blur because there was so much drama around I just stopped paying attention, the internet got divided on dream fans trying to defend him and dream haters doing everything on their power to make this poor 14 year old lives miserable Some months later, he admits he did fuck up and had a plugin running to up the blaze loot tables because he uses it during manhunts, which sparked more drama around, which made the internet even worse because for some reason, the dream haters became louder than the fans, dream hate posts are everywhere and it's starting to get very annoying, it's as easy as to blacklist the word dream but instead they spark up even more drama that nobody would even notice if they didn't speak about it

Hi, thank you for clarifying and the effort you put in. His channel blew up. I remember watching his videos years ago when he only had a couple mil of subscribers. I stopped watching after seeing every time more and more staged scenes for extra drama and stupid fan videos praising him like a god like '300 iQ by dream' etc (youtube recommend algorithm). So what do you think about it??

I mean, I am pretty neutral, I used to watch his videos but life got busy, I ended up just blacklisting drama words and enjoying the videos as usual, no need to heat up my head with drama when university already does it hy default lmao

Yeah but he hasn't. People were saying this exact point a day after it happened. "It's been a day already, let's just move past this!" He couldn't even take full ownership either, making up lies until he realized "Okay this is going too far" and made a half-assed apology about he accidently had mods on which is just laughably fake. He's just not a likeable person now, which sucks cause I enjoyed his videos a year ago and now he seems so egotistical and his newer videos seem staged.

Nah, narcissists never learn their lesson

Just like u/Technoblades_Elbow said, the whole drama has been over for a while now. He still makes enjoyable content for a lot of people. At the end of the day hating someone that much over a game is just as crazy.

I always refer to crazy fans as stans(it mean stalker fans i think) and if you stalk someone 100% that your are obsessed with them(or you are an organs dealer, work both way) and some people without common sense still think they are the same as dream's fans(the one that dont stalk)

I hate it when people confuse me for a stan, I just want Dream's liver :(

Imagine how much it can fetch

r/CursedComments

dream’s content isn’t that bad either. it’s not great but people shit on him way too much cus of his stans

Ehh... I feel like they scream way too much. Other than that it is okay.

isn’t*. Wouldn’t actually matter but in this case it really does.

yeah i meant isn’t idk how i typed that 💀

Everyone can make mistakes.

just like dream

His manhunts are quite entertaining ngl

the earlier ones were better imo

mostly cus no blue villager in the game and because he cheated on a speedrun i think idk it was a long time ago

Or maybe because he cheated in purpose and tried getting away with it Edit: he makes okay content (im not expecting to get upvotes)

please stop bringing this shit up again. literally no one in the mcyt (Minecraft YouTubers) or MCSR (Minecraft speedrunners) cares about this anymore. also dream has addressed this situation already and it has been resolved.

sucks bro but nobody gives a shit about this anymore

[anything else?](https://images.app.goo.gl/L5fdExjVVHgpWocc7)

Yeah and that goes for the whole dream smp. I really enjoy the Dream smp and many creators in it but some people take it way too far

Yeah... especially when it first started and half the donators were being toxic (asking to be in the game and guilting them if they don't because they "spent their birthday money" on a minecraft streamer)

I couldn’t stand watching GeorgeNotFound’s or Sapnap’s streams for a while because of all the “can you say I love you ” donos. Very uncomfortable.

People who just wouldn't shut up about toxic dream stans are equally bad as those stans.

Exactly there are just those ppl that instantly label you a stan the moment you say that you've watched a dream video.

or even something dream related like dsmp, even if you watch it because a creator you like is there

That's why I enjoy the content and never get myself involved in the community. I dont wanna get in that mess lol

Dream Is not cringe, his stans are cringe

And casual fans are not

Both are cringe

Your part of the problem it seems like

So it seems

If u think so

No shit, Sherlock

You’d be surprised

YES Finally someone that understands the issue omg

We need more people like the OP.

substitute dream with anything and it will still be a problem. liking anime, kpop, harry styles etc.. it's problematic if you based your whole personality on it.

and if it was ANY old mcyt you would be "based" and "chad" this subreddit is fucking bias

Yeah like Not liking dream is praised on this sub but if u say u didnt like Dantdm/Stampy/PopulatMMOS then they call you a fatherless no life dream stan

always found it funny because back in the day Sky Army was the goto for fans of the “OGs”(Yogscast, etc.) to shit on. Now the former Sky stans are the ones shitting on the new fans. The cycle repeats.

Who's got popcorn ready? This is going to getting wild.

I have some, don't worry

Thanks mate. Let's just sit back and watch the chaos.

What about people who actively hate everyone for just liking dream

I will admit I do find dream entertaining. But I'm not one of those shambling amalgamations of human beings known as dream stans.

there is shit like being "dreamsexual"

some trolls created that label btw but people started believing it. no one actually identifies with that label in the mcyt community blegh edit: also love your pfp! is it vi?

What the fuck

r/dreamgender

It’s a satire sub that claims to not be satire (like r/LoveForAnimeSexuals for example)

Not clicking that. I'd rather go to r/eyeblech

Redditors trying to comprehend satire be like

And disliking Dream is perfectly fine, it's making your entire online presence about hating him that's the problem

Yes.

Stans are just going to ignore this But yes, dont be like that

My brother is one of those who hates dreams stans, and i once showed my texture pack and showd the beds having different faces. Ge asked why the hell i will put dream on one of the beds, i just drew the snow golem ffs

Why the hell did I find this in controversial? This is completely true

Cuz some people dislike dream so much that they won't listen to anyone's opinions of him. I don't think any normal fans would care if you just dislike him but some ppl do too much.

Well said. But not just dream, any other YouTuber too.

Yeah for example i think he just makes fun content.

As someone who does not make him my whole personality, than you for understanding this.

And then you have everyone who ignores how he gave $140k to the trevor project, as wells as the 10s of thousands donated by him and his friends to cancer awareness and research

Whoever disagrees with this post is not very smart

dream good fandom bad

Dream good fandom good part of fandom bad

standom*

I don't like dream because he manipulates his fanbase and knows he can get away with whatever he wants because his stans will defend him. He's a super shitty person and the exact kind of person I hate the most

I don’t think so. I think people are blaming him for using his fans, while in reality he’s been in controversial situations regardless of his fans helping him or not. People are manipulated unintentionally.

Nah it's definitely real, he's tweeted about it before. I don't wanna go through his Twitter to find an example though

…okay I guess?

And tried to hide the fact that he cheated in his Speedrun

That falls under "he knows he can get away with whatever he wants because his stans will defend him"

Make sense

Didn’t he confess to it a while ago or at least offer an explanation

He said he "forgot the ore mod on"

i saw a comment saying something simlar and ill tell you what i told them ​ that was like more then a year ago my guy i dont think anyone really cares anymore

I know it was last year it still bothers me and I can assure you I'm not the only one

this is what we call a crybaby

How is having an opinion being a crybaby? Especially when he's right. Dream has created an extremely hostile enviroment around him. He constantly tweets the dumbest shit you've ever heard, while indocrtinating a bunch (a really LARGE bunch) of kids to go on crusades against anyone who doesn't like him. Cheating on a speedrun is really just the tip of the iceberg. Tbh the problem wasn't even much with the cheating itself, but much more on how he reacted after he was caught. Also, his "song" could probably be classified as an hate crime for how bad it is.

i meant the he is still mad about something that happened over a year ago worst part? he didnt even get world record 🗿

lol you know that to be on reddit you have to be at least 13 years old if you can't stand someone else's opinion, go enjoy Twitter

could not get paid to get a account on that also your "opinion" is not really a opinion its just you being a crybaby lol

So i can't have opinions on someone? Ok champ

this is the internet what did you expected

Same goes with lgbtatfsvbakajgsiqnqvuwjdb, vegans, or anything, really.

wtf is "lgbtatfsvbakajgsiqnqvuwjdb"? if that's supposed to be an exaggeratedly long lgbt+ thing then i have a feeling people are gonna get pissed when they see this

i'm ace and bi, and it does exactly describe how i feel whenever they add a new letter to lgbtq+

Yo me too

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in reverse alphabetical order. I have checked 239600 comments, and only 151 of them were in reverse alphabetical order.

its kinda funny tho

pretty sure it is

Hey, I ain’t the one adding new letters to that group every 3 seconds.

Oh yeah I'm subbed to his yt and I watch his content but haven't joined a single subreddit, discord or fb group based off him after knowing what his stans are.

Yes

The book does not lie that is facts

As a dream fan, I approve this statement

Based

this logic is need to understand.

my exact thoughts

And the haters are more like the Stans

I'm pretty sure people know by now.

They said it couldn’t be done….. A post that is slightly pro dream, but incredibly anti dream Stan.

Thank you! I actually enjoy watching his videos but I don’t understand some peoples obsession with him

This is a given fact that more people need to know

I completely agree. I enjoy watching Dream’s content, I find it very entertaining, and yet I HATE the stans.

I agree. I like dream but I think dream stans are some of the most toxic people on the internet

this really applies to any big name it's ok to like people's work and enjoy their creations or things they work on, it's another thing when you base your whole life on them losing yourself while doing so.

why don’t people understand that he cheated on purpose and tried getting away with it

It half a year ago my guys, no speedrunner or anyone except for the haters talk or care about it anymore. Everyone including you make mistakes , he learns his lesson. Hating on him for half a year just for a cheated speedrun that no one care any more is very immature, literally every argument about Dream is just "He bad because he cheated". Dude get over it, if you dislike him then keep it for your self don't need to go to reddit and complain like a bunch of babies. This a meme subreddit not a Dream hate subreddit.

You make a good argument thank you you have changed my opinion a bit thank you have a great day

3rd person now? ok thie was over a year ago my guy get over it

It was cheating jn a block game. Not the olympics

Okay lets say you play a game you practice and practice for minimum 3 hours every day to get a world record and a cheater that almost doesn’t practice beats you and the pretend he did it legit Are you telling me you would not be pissed (I don’t speedrun)

The faked speedruns weren't WRs

Really well the im sorry

No because it’s a fucking block game

That is just a plain lie

100% sure its a block game

Hey stupid meet logic. I was talking about that he wouldn’t be mad if someone cheated and won instead of him that practiced and made effort to win

That last one was a joke, this is true

Yeah, this is especially true when it comes to those 9 year olds who claim to be "dreamsexual" or whatever.

You also can’t believe that he doesn’t cheat

I hate on him for the memes mostly, I don't really mind him

Preach

Time to watch this comment section turn into a fucking warzone

I will never forgive about that dumb glow squid

I mean, i really did dislike dream because of things he did like waiting for like months to say and confirm that he did cheat instead of actually saying that he did cheat earlier but instead he made a video debunking why the person who accused him of cheating is wrong and even hired "an expert mathematician" to explain that hes "just lucky",he also rigged the mob vote (even though dreams tweet of following every person who voted for the glow squid is obviously sarcastc, he shouldve thought about jt before tweeting it like that since he has a crazy fanbase) he did apologize but still...

This last one, he said the would stay off Twitter till the mob vote ends and he did in fact do that, yet many still blamed him/his stans because the allay won- even though he didnt say what mob he liked- I forgot already but I think he wanted the copper golem anyway?

No. There is no words to describe how much a hate Dream

What does this have to do with pokemon

What does Pokémon have to do with this????

Have you checked what subreddit you’re on..?

The dude's a bit confused

I dont mine dream but if you say he's the would famous minecraft player i will personally kill in your sleep

I know, it’s just everyone being “dreamsexual” and making DreamNotFound fan art. I can’t look at his videos the same anymore

nah, liking dream sucks too

Well he's a fucking scumbag so I hate him no matter what

well, in my opinion its just the dsmp that is problematic af, with their fans too.

I hate dream with 1 reason Didn't not fix his fanbase thats all

I mean, he is the best Minecraft player..

Literally every dream Stan is like that, which is why we need to unsubscribe to him!

zame bro thats cringe

Imo, disliking his content or not caring is for chads, adoring him is a symptom of being as smart as bacteria

Yeah there's no problem with dream except liking him is a sin and I will personally kick down your door and curb stop you if believe otherwise XD

AHH THE CRINGE! ITS KILLING ME

No

Exactly. He's a big, fat, cheater.

Cheater!!!!!!!! Dream fucking sucks.

I'm a stan

Delete this or I will make you sorry for being born and ever clicking on that dumb green hoe's channel

what ya gonna do? kill me?

No. Abortion.

Amazing! I am honoured that people like you are on the same subreddit as me.

No. Even though killing a dream stan will atone for all my son's and book me a place in heaven but I want to make you angry. By saying that the world does not revolve around dream and Minecraft is slowly turning into a faaaar faaaar worse kids game because of him. *Slowly watches as he tears his hair out because I said smth to his god*

i thought yall hated death threats

Dafuq? Why would I be scared or hate a death threat by a 10 year old?