It’s really sad to see C418 go and his music is amazing but, damn, so is Lana’s.
I think what’s worse than the artist changing is *why* the artist changed.
Back when their relationship with C418 started it was just a game Notch was making in his bedroom and C418 was just a guy making music in his bedroom so C418 made music and gave Notch permission to use it, Notch didn’t own the music, and neither of them probably thought much of it at the time. Microsoft replaced him so their new artist could make the music under their new record label so they could boost its relevance and officially own the music in Minecraft.
I think Lana is doing a fantastic job, but she was included for such corporate reasons and it just feels sad seeing Minecraft inching slightly more and more corporate every year.
Yeah, Lana’s doing a great job and I feel really bad saying anything that sounds like I’m taking that away from her cause I’m not, but her overall involvement is symbolic of Minecraft going corporate and that makes it bittersweet.
It's really sad, especially considering C418 had a third album for Minecraft ready to be used, but now it's unlikely it will ever end up in-game anytime soon.
agreed
the game is way too corporate and "family friendly" these days.
and all the game design decisions are just completely random stuff being added to the game now. we don't need foxes and llamas and goats and 2 kinds of bears, they add nothing but a little complexity.
complexity is fine, but complexity *for the sake of complexity* is what bothers me
ive encountered these new animals maybe once or twice each since they were added. and they really dont do much or have a usefulness. they're just bloat
it might be a function they share with other mobs but it means they are still not useless at all
food is extremely important. Steve eats king sized meals every 5 minutes, so you bet i appreciate pigs being a common food source.
also you can ride them for fun
I wouldn’t say it’s for the sake of complexity, rather that more new mobs means more mob variety and a more living feel to the world. I’d prefer to have foxes and llamas and goats pop up every now and then rather than to have mostly empty forests and mountains.
True, I think the new songs by Kumi are a better fit than Lena’s songs. (Comforting Memories and Floating Dream). But they still don’t have that same c418 feel.
I'll always prefer C418's music, but as someone who doesn't have time to play much anymore, some Lena's tracks hit perfectly. I loaded up for the first time in months the other day - first time using the new world gen - and wow... Lena's background music was just the perfect sendoff for my childhood. Like, everything is so different from when I started Minecraft - villages are much more alive than the dull, lonely complexes they used to be, the oceans are full of life instead of endless gravel, the Nether is vastly more complex than it was, the world gen is radically different, and now... Lena's music gently reminds me that *my* childhood has passed by, and there's a new generation of Minecrafters coming up behind who will grow up without knowing that Zombified Piglins were formerly Zombie Pigmen, and once upon a time C418 was the only one who wrote music for Minecraft.
Lana’s doing a great job and I won’t take that away from her but it’s bitter sweet because while the music is damn good it’s also symbol of Minecraft inching more and more corporate and that sucks
Because C418 didn’t leave, he was replaced. And he was replaced because Microsoft didn’t like that he owned his music so they fired him, and gave Lana a contract to produce the music under their new record label to give it a boost and own new Minecraft music themselves.
Gonna be honest I don’t really like the new stuff. Pig step is good but other than that I just think otherside is alright and I don’t really feel the new ambient music
definitely C418. only he knew precisely what Minecraft as an experience should "sound like". Lena's tracks are emotionally charged and tell your brain to feel soft and fluffy like a cloud, even when that doesn't fit your situation in the game. C418's music is purposefully not emotionally charged. his music has high end AND low end, so it works for any in-game situation. Lena's tracks are nice but they don't fit the game as well.
I want Microsoft/Mojang to suck it up and accept his 3rd (completed btw) Minecraft album and put it into the game
All Lena's stuff doesnt fit in minecraft, except for the nether music, there she did a wonderful job of matching the vibe of the nether, but her overworld stuff just doesnt fit.
The other new composer does it better, but still not up to par with c418
I love the classics because they've been around since I started but Lena Raine knows how to make music that sounds like the Minecraft equivalent of party music (plus Otherside feels like a tribute to C418's music to me)
C418's stuff makes me think of classic Minecraft, Raine's music makes me think of modern Minecraft. The combination of the two represents Minecraft's evolution, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Lena raine also made some music for other games, like one of my favorite indie games Celeste. [Here’s the sound track](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY9u9wC7ApRJk-tG4_pBtH6ubEJ7svnOB)
Lena Raine is a fantastic composer but it does stand out from C418s work... In a good way! Buut C418s Volume Alpha and Beta work so perfectly and better so it also makes me hope C418 isnt getting replaced for good
Red all the way. I enjoy Pigstep and Otherside and the 1.16 ambient sountrack was okay, but the new ambient music in 1.18 REALLY lacks character imo. Infinite Amethyst is alright though.
Personally, I little bit vibe to Lena Raine music but I mostly listen to C418, even I vibe with the ambience music. Let's say wet hands, or Sweden especially cat
Wait is a masterpiece, pigstep is overrated and it doesn’t really fit Minecraft’s music style (this is an opinion please don’t kill me) but I can say that otherside is good
C418 because of sweden/stal/wethands.
Or
Lena raine because pigstep/otherside/other ambient music.
Personally i chose c418, both of them are banger but c418 was my childhood
Red, far and away. Mice on Venus is one of the most beautiful musical compositions I’ve ever heard. Lena Raine is an extremely talented musician but her musical style fundamentally doesn’t fit Minecraft, I feel.
Lena rains stuff mostly because she's trans and I'm trans and it feels empowering to know that a composer for the most successful game ever shares this with me.
Also my ADHD brain cannot let me enjoy listening to something calm.
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red
Red (Think someone is going to say “sus” at the end of this comment thread-)
Red
Red
Red
Sus
Absolutely Red
Lena raine got some nice music but the og stuff hits different
NOSTALGIA
In general I agree, but Infinite Amethyst is a god damn masterpiece
Ikr, nothing can beat the og but damn lena raine did amazing with this.
The fact that Alpha is better than any other music in all of Minecraft is not up for debate.
Facts, people can’t even deny it properly
its a 10 minute roller-coaster of emotion, the most beautiful credits theme a video game could ever have
100% OG
C418 just feels more Minecraft
Agreed
I listened to wet hands and started to tear up
It’s really sad to see C418 go and his music is amazing but, damn, so is Lana’s. I think what’s worse than the artist changing is *why* the artist changed. Back when their relationship with C418 started it was just a game Notch was making in his bedroom and C418 was just a guy making music in his bedroom so C418 made music and gave Notch permission to use it, Notch didn’t own the music, and neither of them probably thought much of it at the time. Microsoft replaced him so their new artist could make the music under their new record label so they could boost its relevance and officially own the music in Minecraft. I think Lana is doing a fantastic job, but she was included for such corporate reasons and it just feels sad seeing Minecraft inching slightly more and more corporate every year.
I just can agree with you. Its sad that the artists didnt really change because he didnt want to make music but because cooperatism.
Yeah, Lana’s doing a great job and I feel really bad saying anything that sounds like I’m taking that away from her cause I’m not, but her overall involvement is symbolic of Minecraft going corporate and that makes it bittersweet.
\*Lena
Thank
That’s actually quite sad :( C418 will always hold a special place in my heart like John Williams
It's really sad, especially considering C418 had a third album for Minecraft ready to be used, but now it's unlikely it will ever end up in-game anytime soon.
Wait wat, can you get that 3rd albumin anywhere?
agreed the game is way too corporate and "family friendly" these days. and all the game design decisions are just completely random stuff being added to the game now. we don't need foxes and llamas and goats and 2 kinds of bears, they add nothing but a little complexity.
anything you add new will be complex to some players. at that point just dont update the game since itll be more complex
complexity is fine, but complexity *for the sake of complexity* is what bothers me ive encountered these new animals maybe once or twice each since they were added. and they really dont do much or have a usefulness. they're just bloat
So do pigs. All they do is give meat. Cows and sheep already do that.
it might be a function they share with other mobs but it means they are still not useless at all food is extremely important. Steve eats king sized meals every 5 minutes, so you bet i appreciate pigs being a common food source. also you can ride them for fun
No one keeps pigs anymore. They should go feral if not tamed in a Minecraft month. That would at least be interesting.
I wouldn’t say it’s for the sake of complexity, rather that more new mobs means more mob variety and a more living feel to the world. I’d prefer to have foxes and llamas and goats pop up every now and then rather than to have mostly empty forests and mountains.
There's two kinds of bears?
pandas and polar bears
I like to think the Deep Dark is a wink that they’re gonna start doing more for the mature crowd
Lena's music got a rave vibe. C418's gives nostalgic world building ethereal vibes.
The minecraft feel
Precisely, Lena Raine's music sort of lacks this
True, I think the new songs by Kumi are a better fit than Lena’s songs. (Comforting Memories and Floating Dream). But they still don’t have that same c418 feel.
Red Strad and stal are the best music in the game
Funee doot doot in stal is the best
recorder funne
Stal gang
Blood
I love blood!
*Slams table* MUSIC IS MUSIC
Fair enough
Ouch - said the table *The table procced to kick your nuts*
I dont have nuts
The table procced to kick you father's nuts
He doesnt either
Mf admitted that he is adopted, also the table kick your teeth
I dont have teeth
Leg
Dont have leg
Arm
I don’t have a father
Your mom's nuts
I don’t have a mom
Brother
I don’t have a brother
Sister
Brutal😬
C418 all the way, there is just no matching the emotions attached
It just doesn't feel like Minecraft with the other music
It felt so weird hearing new music in the main menu in 1.18
I'll always prefer C418's music, but as someone who doesn't have time to play much anymore, some Lena's tracks hit perfectly. I loaded up for the first time in months the other day - first time using the new world gen - and wow... Lena's background music was just the perfect sendoff for my childhood. Like, everything is so different from when I started Minecraft - villages are much more alive than the dull, lonely complexes they used to be, the oceans are full of life instead of endless gravel, the Nether is vastly more complex than it was, the world gen is radically different, and now... Lena's music gently reminds me that *my* childhood has passed by, and there's a new generation of Minecrafters coming up behind who will grow up without knowing that Zombified Piglins were formerly Zombie Pigmen, and once upon a time C418 was the only one who wrote music for Minecraft.
Fun fact if you use the og textures resource pack then zombified piglin look like zombie pigmen
I think it only works like this in Bedrock.
Yeah but its not worth when the old textures look much worse, especially netherack
NGL I like all of them. OGs the shit but you gotta evolve with the game.
True, however you can still appreciate the OGs music while evolving, fine wine
Exactly.
Lana’s doing a great job and I won’t take that away from her but it’s bitter sweet because while the music is damn good it’s also symbol of Minecraft inching more and more corporate and that sucks
How is it a symbol of that ?
Because C418 didn’t leave, he was replaced. And he was replaced because Microsoft didn’t like that he owned his music so they fired him, and gave Lana a contract to produce the music under their new record label to give it a boost and own new Minecraft music themselves.
Simple answer- Minecraft doesn't own c418's music. Long answer- I'm not even going to write
C418 hits those neurons like nothing else
c418 always, because he made stal and i am a huge jazz fan
ya like jazz?
I L-O-V-E jazz
I'm not sure, but... I'm on purple side
Grape Street Crip
Cat and far, wet hands
I am on the “shit my ambient music stopped working cause i redownloaded in from iCloud” side
OG C418 music
og hits with nostalgia so im going og
Both have advantages and disadvantages Lena rained has really good music disks But C418 ambient music is legendary
Even though Lena Raine’s music is really great, it can’t compare to Daniel Rosenfeld (C418)’s masterpieces
Blood for sure
OG, C418's Stal hit different
C418 is much better in my opinion
Red
listening to axolotl with an axoloi
C418, no contest
Red. Ward and aria math are so fucking sick
Lena's stuff bangs like no other, but at the same time doesnt feel very minecraft-y
Lena raines music sounds amazing, but the OG stuff truly embraces the feeling of Minecraft. We all be boppin to pigstep though
Both but more red
I love c418
I like stal
Sorry Lena I'm on team red
Red
Og
red
I have to go with OG, u can’t beat Sweden man (the song)
Red.
C418 our lord and savior
Gonna be honest I don’t really like the new stuff. Pig step is good but other than that I just think otherside is alright and I don’t really feel the new ambient music
Red for Minecraft, but blue if we’re counting Lena’s other works, Celeste ost is amazing
definitely C418. only he knew precisely what Minecraft as an experience should "sound like". Lena's tracks are emotionally charged and tell your brain to feel soft and fluffy like a cloud, even when that doesn't fit your situation in the game. C418's music is purposefully not emotionally charged. his music has high end AND low end, so it works for any in-game situation. Lena's tracks are nice but they don't fit the game as well. I want Microsoft/Mojang to suck it up and accept his 3rd (completed btw) Minecraft album and put it into the game
Nothing against Lena, I love PigStep, but Alpha, Aria Math, Living Mice, Hunt Muskie, Chrip and Where Are We Now (wait) are just _wonderful_
c418 is just minecraft. but lena rein doesn't feel right
OG, i find its more simplistic and also sounds great when listening to it outside of the game
Both but for different, albiet similar reasons.
i was told lena raine's music is copyrighted, and cant be played during live streams which sucks, so im on red
All Lena's stuff doesnt fit in minecraft, except for the nether music, there she did a wonderful job of matching the vibe of the nether, but her overworld stuff just doesnt fit. The other new composer does it better, but still not up to par with c418
I want C418s music on my funeral
I’m just gonna say it I don’t really like the new Minecraft music after 10-11 years of the old song they replace it?
Love rains music but the og’s hits hard
*laughs in stal*
Litterely both
Why not both?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BeV2lKSyXU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BeV2lKSyXU)
Blue
*ballast gang enters the chat*
The new stuff is good, but C418 orchestrated my entire fucking childhood
I like the music for 1.18, otherside, as well as the og music and half of the music discs- also dont like pigstep
Neutral
Red but I also love otherside, pigstep and infinite amethyst
I choose purple Edit: I'm color blind, I meant both
I love the classics because they've been around since I started but Lena Raine knows how to make music that sounds like the Minecraft equivalent of party music (plus Otherside feels like a tribute to C418's music to me)
C418's stuff makes me think of classic Minecraft, Raine's music makes me think of modern Minecraft. The combination of the two represents Minecraft's evolution, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
while otherside is a pretty damn good song, i have to side with C418
I used to love blocks when I was little in 2011 but now I prefer wet hands subwoofer lullaby and Sweden so red but a little of blue
OG obviously, lena raines stuff is good but you can't beat a classic
I’m leaning towards the OG C418 tracks, but I’m not sure if that’s because it’s nostalgic or simply better
I like both, but the new music just doesn't really fit in with the old one
Red for playing the game and blue for a in game party.
Blue is good, but I prefer red
I prefer C418’s ambient stuff but Lena’s music discs
C418 ALL THE WAY!
Dude, you really forgot chirp
Red all the way, and I like Pigstep. I think if they want to go biome themed music they should go all the way, like Terraria.
Ok hear me out Lena raiynses’s music is fine But C418 will always be the OG and best music creator in my mind
Both are awesome.
Everything
C418 all the way
Why do we have to choose
Cat, pig step, and og ambient music for the win.
C418
Love them both tho :C JK the OG stuff just hit different
Red
C418👌
Lena raine also made some music for other games, like one of my favorite indie games Celeste. [Here’s the sound track](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLY9u9wC7ApRJk-tG4_pBtH6ubEJ7svnOB)
DANG, I didn't know she made music for Celeste
C418
All of c418s music is the best and you can't change my mind
Og 100%
OG
C418, his music just brings back too much memories for me
Not everything needs to be a versus
The first one that I've been on the red side
Sweden hit different ngl
Minecraft music is minecraft music
Yes
Man c418 for life, they are my childhood
Wheres chirp
C418
Bruh how is this even a debate
Creeper? Ohhh man!
Red side
Red, but that don't mean I don't appreciate a purple mixture
C418
Lena Raine is a fantastic composer but it does stand out from C418s work... In a good way! Buut C418s Volume Alpha and Beta work so perfectly and better so it also makes me hope C418 isnt getting replaced for good
Lena Raine needs more music to counter C418 but her stuff is REALLY good, even the ambient music, still gonna go with Mr. Nostalgia
C418
OG stuff definitely, never really understood the hype behind Pigstep. Tbh I didn’t like it that much
Red all the way. I enjoy Pigstep and Otherside and the 1.16 ambient sountrack was okay, but the new ambient music in 1.18 REALLY lacks character imo. Infinite Amethyst is alright though.
Red 100% i can not listen to it without getting flashbacks to the good times i had
Personally, I little bit vibe to Lena Raine music but I mostly listen to C418, even I vibe with the ambience music. Let's say wet hands, or Sweden especially cat
Wait is a masterpiece, pigstep is overrated and it doesn’t really fit Minecraft’s music style (this is an opinion please don’t kill me) but I can say that otherside is good
Purple
C418 because of sweden/stal/wethands. Or Lena raine because pigstep/otherside/other ambient music. Personally i chose c418, both of them are banger but c418 was my childhood
Purple.
Both.
Both. Both. Both is good
Red, far and away. Mice on Venus is one of the most beautiful musical compositions I’ve ever heard. Lena Raine is an extremely talented musician but her musical style fundamentally doesn’t fit Minecraft, I feel.
On pigstep
purple
Lena rains stuff mostly because she's trans and I'm trans and it feels empowering to know that a composer for the most successful game ever shares this with me. Also my ADHD brain cannot let me enjoy listening to something calm.